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Women Bridging the Gap

56 EpisodesProduced by Alexandra D'Italia & Lenya WilsonWebsite

Welcome to Women Bridging the Gap, a free-wheeling, conversation podcast co-hosted by Lenya Wilson, a Black woman and Alexandra D’Italia, a white woman.As two women over 50 who are still dreaming, planning, and working, we explore what womanhood means in today’s world, in today's American culture. … read more

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Still Processing the Dobbs Decision

September 7th, 2022


Still Processing the Dobbs Decision


Just a nice easy laid-back episode about abortion. We need to talk about vaginas more, and this is the perfect place to start.


Alexandra and Lenya both share their own abortion …

COVID 19 Is Still A Thing, People

April 18th, 2022


Alexandra and Lenya check in about COVID 19, and how Lenya is staying clear of it but Alexandra is having a harder time. They have both traveled recently and relay how different people behaved in the different areas, …

American Ninja Warrior Kadeem Aaron 

April 6th, 2022


Join us to talk with Kadeem Aaron, a successful Ninja Warrior on both the Australian and American versions of the show! He also happens to be Lenya’s …

Racism in War 

March 16th, 2022


Where is the line between breaking the law and being a crappy person? That’s just the first thing on the agenda today. 


Lenya and Alexandra are …

Lenya and Alexandra argue about Mary K. Blige

March 2nd, 2022


It’s our 50th episode! Thank you all for listening, sharing, commenting, subscribing, and everything!


We have the Super Bowl halftime show conversation we promised last time. Where is the line between wearing …

White Fragility in Everyday Conversation

February 23rd, 2022


Jumping right into it this episode with discussions of white fragility, and how easily and unwillingly it can present itself. Lenya brings in some tales of people whitesplaining on TikTok, and they discuss the fear …

Already Ranting

February 16th, 2022


Your favorite ladies are back at it again! And jumping right into it with fresh rants and raves. Well, not many raves, not much to rave about, but plenty to rant about.


Lenya has a big decision to make. She was …

Having that Race Conversation at Holiday Dinner

December 15th, 2021


It’s the final episode of the season and the year! Lenya and Alex have some holiday stories to tell, and they are good ones!


Lenya went to her …

Lenya, The One, That Weightlifting Champion 

November 17th, 2021


Lenya performed at a weightlifting competition last week and is here to tell ua all about it. Not only did she tell us about how she won and what it was like, but explained the sport and the competition, how it’s …

Get Off My Lawn with Alexandra’s sister Candice D’Italia Gray

November 3rd, 2021


Alexandra’s sister, Candice, joins to discuss race and womanhood, in TikTok, in lacrosse, in being a mother, and in growing older. Candice D’Italia …

A Plan To End Racism with Lenya's neighbor JC, Part 2

October 27th, 2021


We continue this excellent conversation with JC, Lenya’s neighbor and fan of the show.


JC recommends the HBO documentary [Exterminate all the Brutes]( but warns it is not …

Sports and Race with Lenya's neighbor JC, Part 1 

October 20th, 2021


Fan of the show and neighbor of Lenya, JC joins the ladies to discuss politics, sports, and race throughout the world, and here in the US. As always, …

Life and Dogs and Social Media

October 13th, 2021


After a fantastic update on Lenya’s current lift training status, Alexandra and Lenya open up about the dogs they’ve raised, where they got them, what they asked for to get them, and how they lived their lives. 


But …

Home and Away: Racism in Home-buying and Travel

October 6th, 2021


What’s up with Black families being blamed for lowering property values? Lenya took a stroll in a nice Black neighborhood, so she and Alexandra …


September 22nd, 2021


Lenya and Alex go deep into “what is sisterhood?” 


Alexandra explains how she has no more time for insecure people. Lenya feels empowered and happy when she sees a woman out in her workout catsuit. Together they …

Kids and Capitalism with Brendan Hutchins

September 15th, 2021


Producer of the show Brendan Hutchins is back to talk about getting his vasectomy reversed, having babies in this current state of the world, and just an update on what's going on in his world.


Very quickly the topic …

Ignore The Comments

September 8th, 2021


Go anywhere on any social media platform, you’re going to find trolls, people who want to argue, and spew hate, and worse. What are you supposed to …

The Olympics

September 1st, 2021


Alex and Lenya have more to discuss about the Olympics!


Some people are saying they only turn on the Olympics to watch the Black athletes. What does this mean to them, and to the Black Community? Does it help? What if …

The Delta Variant

August 25th, 2021


Welcome back to our virtual living room, because we have a lot of race and womanhood to discuss. Alexandra and Lenya are back for a new season with guests and hard topic discussions, unafraid to say what they think and …

Boobs and What Your Mother Didn't Tell You

June 2nd, 2021


Lenya and Alexandra are back on their own again to focus on getting deep and gritty and talk about boobs, what their mothers never told them, and …

In Conversation with Conner Gorry

May 19th, 2021


This week we are in conversation with Alexandra’s long time friend Conner

Born and raised in New York, Conner first came to Cuba in 1993 while …

Can you be friends with a racist? With Brendan Hutchins

May 12th, 2021


Can you be friends with a racist? What seems like it could be a simple yes or no question has layers and layers of unpacking and questions to be able …

In Conversation with Sarah Khan, comedian and former law student

May 5th, 2021


Grab your favorite cocktail or drink and sit back with Lenya and Alexandra as they talk to Sarah Khan about why she left law school to become a …

In Conversation with Young Advocate AB Tucker on Black Excellence, Fighting for the Wrongfully Convicted

April 28th, 2021


AB Tucker is the gust today, and she tells the story of her brother being wrongfully accused of murder, and how that has pushed her down her own path …

In Conversation with Strongest UK Woman Andrea Thompson - Just Wow!

April 21st, 2021


[Strongwoman Andrea Thompson]( joins the Women Bridging the Gap family to discuss race and womanhood, at the hearth level. She grew up in England and not knowing …

In Conversation with Author Jen Dalton on Bullying, Writing, and Volunteering in Haiti

April 14th, 2021


Long time friend Jen Dalton joins Alexandra and Lenya to discuss writing, where to get your news, bullying, and so much more. Jen is an author of a …

Royals, Racism, and Interviewing

April 8th, 2021


We’re back! Welcome to the third season of two incredible women having difficult, real, emotional, and exciting conversations about race, culture, …

From Self Care to Slut Shaming

March 3rd, 2021


As a closer to the second season of Women Bridging the Gap, we have our first listener guest! Franziska joins Alexandra and Lenya to discuss slut shaming, sexual vs sexualized, and daily affirmations. Alex asks if …

Black History Month

February 24th, 2021


It’s Black History Month! So Alexandra and Lenya check in about how they’re feeling and what they’re doing for Black History Month. They both have a selection of movies and shows they’ve been watching lately, and they …

Interview with Allen Kehinde Aragbaye

February 10th, 2021


How race affects sports and basketball is what basketball star and entrepreneur Allen Kehinde Aragbaye tells us about today as he joins Alexandra and Lenya in discussion, but it’s also way more than that. Listen as they …

Formula 1 with SteF1

February 3rd, 2021


The all F1 episode is finally here! Lenya brought on Steph from the All About SteF1 YouTube channel to school Alexandra on all the drama, drivers, …

Interview with Nora

January 27th, 2021


Lenya and Alexandra are joined by Nora to discuss tech, space, and her transgender transition. Lenya and Nora met at the wig shop where Lenya worked and they formed a friendship. This episode goes deep into some areas …

Black in Canada

January 20th, 2021


Zara Mokhtar joins Lenya and Alexandra to talk about race and womanhood in Canada, Sudan, and Los Angeles. As a law student studying in a forign …

Teaching and Race in a Pandemic

January 13th, 2021


High school teacher Arleta joins Alexandra and Lenya to discuss race and womanhood in schools and teaching environments. Topics include what has …

New Year Goals

January 6th, 2021


It’s a new year and time for the reckoning of last year’s resolutions and looking to the future.

Alexandra and Lenya each share the goals they aimed …

Passing The Time

December 9th, 2020


After a stressful year, crazy election season, and a myriad vulnerable and open conversations about race, Alexandra and Lenya connect to discuss the …

Interview with Nicole and Cassidy Part 2

December 2nd, 2020


We continue the conversation with mother Nicole and daughter Cassidy Meyers, today discussing the racism received by being Black in a White …

Interview with Nicole and Cassidy Part 1

November 25th, 2020


Mother Nicole and Daughter Cassidy Meyers join us to discuss race and womanhood. We explore how campus interpersonal colorism has changed over time, …

Class and Race

November 18th, 2020


This week we have a big topic to discuss, how class and race intersect. How do White and Black people think of class systems differently? Join us as we discuss the different behaviours and traits that people in working, …

Post-Election Special

November 11th, 2020


Alexandra and Lenya decompress, vent, and release after the 2020 election. Biden has won, but what do the statistics tell us about who voted for whom? What takeaways are there about race and womanhood? This and more are …

Interview with David France Part 2

November 4th, 2020


David France returns to continue the discussion on race and the barriers being Black can cause when getting a job, living in and outside the United States.

There is also a discussion on classism, how you have to have …

Election Special

November 2nd, 2020


Alexandra and Lenya get together with the talented Brendan Hutchins who edits the podcast( to discuss their …

Interview with David France

October 28th, 2020


David France joins us to discuss leaving the United States, how artists push boundaries, how race played into his journey and living abroad as a Black American.

David is an artist, entrepreneur and business creative …

Interview with Andrea Carbon Korsak

October 21st, 2020


In today’s episode, Lenya and Alexandra talk to a perinatal nurse about racial and gender bias in nursing. Andrea is a labor and delivery nurse 10 years into her dream career. She embraces the intersectionality of …

Race And Tarot

October 14th, 2020


Continuing the exploration of racism in everyday things, Alexandra and Lenya discuss tarot, where tarot came from, what it means to use tarot, and descriptions of different types of cards, decks, and crystals.

Below …

Interview with Jet Set Sarah

October 7th, 2020


Welcome to our first guest, Jet Set Sarah, Sarah Greaves-Gabbadon, Miami-based Caribbean travel expert. Lenya and Alexandra talk with Sarah about everything from her youth growing up in Jamaica, to the racism of …

Race and Wine

September 30th, 2020


So many of us take for granted our everyday things that give us joy--even our wine. But when you take a moment to stop and look around or turn over a stone, you can find a surprisingly racist history.

Lenya and …

Mental Distress and Compassion

September 2nd, 2020


The internet went wild when Michelle Obama admitted on her new podcast that she was suffering from “low-grade” depression. What do we all feel about …


August 26th, 2020


“A microaggression is a comment or gesture (whether made intentionally or not) that feeds into stereotypes or negative assumptions created around oppressed or marginalized groups of people. The term was first used in …

Interview of Lenya Wilson

August 19th, 2020


This episode is all about Lenya Wilson’s background, parents, and journey. Alexandra asks the questions and dives into The Goddess’s history with Georgia, Australia, New York, and California, as well as The One’s Puerto …

Interview of Alexandra D'Italia

August 12th, 2020


Alexandra takes the hot seat while Lenya asks all about her past, where she grew up, her parent’s careers and how they met, and her undying passion for art. Explore the neighborhoods of New York and San Fransisco, hear …

Growth, Fear, Cancel Culture

August 5th, 2020


How terrifying is it to put your whole heart and soul out for everyone to listen to and judge, especially around topics of politics and race, in …

The Interracial Friendship Gap

July 29th, 2020


Can Black women and white women have deep and authentic friendships? What are the stumbling blocks? Lenya and Alexandra share how many friends of other races they have. And then they push one another—how close are they? …


July 22nd, 2020


How do Black Women and White Women understand the term Karen and how do we use that understanding to bridge the gap between us? Listen as Lenya and Alexandra discuss their first experiences with Karenism, topics of …

Beauty Gap

July 15th, 2020


What is the feminine beauty ideal? Who decided that ideal and why is it what it is? Does it help anyone or does it just push everyone to want more? Listen as Alexandra D'Italia and Lenya Wilson explore their personal …

Introducing Women Bridging The Gap

July 7th, 2020


Welcome to Women Bridging The Gap, a podcast with Lenya Wilson and Alexandra D’Italia discussing race, womanhood, and more.

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