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Why Not Both

140 EpisodesProduced by Pam ShafferWebsite

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity. Presented by Under The Radar magazine, we interview a wide variety of creative guests who share how their various interests dovetail to create a vibrant life. Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show… read more

140 Episodes | 2019 - 2023

Best of Why Not Both: Aurora x Sudan Archives x HANA

February 15th, 2023

43:30

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Bonus Ep 8: How Jeffrey Leiser made the ultimate Icelandic opera

January 15th, 2023

1:01:50

We got to chat with Jeffrey Leiser about why he decided that he absolutely had to make Freydís and Gudrid, an Icelandic opera film, the magic of …

Ep 131: Elias Rønnenfelt of Iceage on how death is the ultimate boss

November 30th, 2022

47:36

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 130: Harper Simon x Julia Holter on creativity, crime and medieval love affairs

November 9th, 2022

1:14:35

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 129: Tove Lo on creative joy and the magic of body acceptance

October 26th, 2022

49:11

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 128: S.G. Goodman on powerful songs and political activism

October 19th, 2022

39:15

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 127: Eerie Wanda and the art of near death experiences

October 5th, 2022

1:11:20

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 126: Bryce Drew on collaboration and the importance of leading a colorful life

September 28th, 2022

55:42

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 125: John Darnielle of the Mountain Goats on creativity and absurdity

September 14th, 2022

1:22:05

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 124: MØ on music and microcosms

August 31st, 2022

44:11

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 123: Dana Schwartz and Korama Danquah on vampires, historical accuracy, and being terminally online

August 17th, 2022

1:06:10

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 122: Pony Sweat on the tender magic of dance aerobics

August 3rd, 2022

1:06:26

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 121: Why Zola Jesus moved to the woods

June 29th, 2022

1:13:48

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 120: Ellie Pritts on collaborating with AI, following your intuition and the importance of frogs

June 22nd, 2022

59:04

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 119: Stoya on making art you love, valuing mental health, and dressing up as your favorite wrestler

June 15th, 2022

1:38:13

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Bonus Ep 7: Katie Thiroux

June 10th, 2022

56:41

Katie Thiroux brings a beautiful sense of calm strength to all she pursues, from jazz festivals to teaching at USC. We got to chat about how she …

Ep 118: Nabil Ayers on accidentally writing a book and running a record label

June 8th, 2022

55:12

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 117: Mal Blum on life, death, and power tools

June 1st, 2022

1:29:41

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 116: Cadence Weapon

May 25th, 2022

1:05:12

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 115: Simone Merli of Soundwalk Collective

May 4th, 2022

1:01:12

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 114: Kae Tempest

April 27th, 2022

1:04:57

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 113: BANKS

April 20th, 2022

45:52

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Bonus Ep 6: Gay Hollywood

April 15th, 2022

1:25:10

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 112: John Vanderslice

April 13th, 2022

57:28

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 111: Yoni Wolf

April 6th, 2022

1:09:53

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 110: Hrishikesh Hirway of "Song Exploder"

March 30th, 2022

58:49

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 109: Self Esteem

March 16th, 2022

54:04

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 108: Jenny Hval

March 9th, 2022

1:27:07

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 107: Dan Smith of Bastille

March 2nd, 2022

55:23

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 106: Jensen McRae

February 23rd, 2022

1:40:51

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 105: Eno of Ibibio Sound Machine

February 16th, 2022

1:01:48

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 104: Amber Iman

February 9th, 2022

58:43

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 103: Tasha

February 2nd, 2022

1:01:31

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 102: Lauren Mayberry of CHVRCHES

January 26th, 2022

1:11:24

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Bonus Ep 5: Dr. Mike

January 14th, 2022

1:00:57

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Bonus Ep 4: Cam Maclean

December 17th, 2021

1:03:59

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 101: Yola

December 15th, 2021

1:21:57

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 100: Melissa Auf der Maur

December 8th, 2021

1:13:14

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 99: Jon Hopkins

December 1st, 2021

49:09

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 98: John Linnell of They Might Be Giants

November 17th, 2021

1:03:17

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 97: Thao Nguyen

November 10th, 2021

53:49

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 96: Albert Hammond Jr. of The Strokes

November 3rd, 2021

1:03:29

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 95: Tori Amos

October 27th, 2021

1:00:08

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Bonus Ep 3: Red Riot

October 22nd, 2021

50:45

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Ep 94: Allison Russell

October 20th, 2021

53:42

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 93: Macy Rodman

October 13th, 2021

1:01:20

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 92: Sigrid

October 6th, 2021

58:36

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 91: Shirley Manson of Garbage

September 22nd, 2021

35:23

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 90: William Shatner

September 15th, 2021

1:04:20

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 89: The Weather Station

September 8th, 2021

50:19

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 88: Mia Berrin of Pom Pom Squad

August 25th, 2021

1:02:02

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 87: David Duchovny

August 18th, 2021

35:57

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 86: Devon Gilfillian

August 11th, 2021

50:48

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 85: Devendra Banhart

August 4th, 2021

1:11:12

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 84: Laura Gómez

July 28th, 2021

1:09:02

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 83: Jonas Bjerre of Mew

July 21st, 2021

1:04:12

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 82: Anna of the North

July 7th, 2021

1:01:13

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 81: Laurie Penny

June 30th, 2021

59:57

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 80: John Grant

June 23rd, 2021

1:01:55

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 79: Anjimile

June 16th, 2021

1:05:30

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 78: Rufus Wainwright

June 9th, 2021

29:07

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 77: Claud

June 2nd, 2021

55:12

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 76: Vanessa Vakharia of The Math Guru and Goodnight Sunrise

May 26th, 2021

50:25

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 75: O Future

May 19th, 2021

1:22:04

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 74: Twin Shadow

May 12th, 2021

56:03

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Bonus Ep 2: Árni Ingólffson

May 8th, 2021

46:15

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Ep 73: Jenny Owen Youngs

May 5th, 2021

1:03:26

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 72: girl in red

April 28th, 2021

1:12:05

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 71: KCRW's Anne Litt

April 21st, 2021

1:12:09

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Bonus Ep 1: Freyja Eilíf

April 14th, 2021

1:04:44

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Ep 70: Julien Baker

April 7th, 2021

59:44

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 69: Nadya Tolokonnikova of Pussy Riot

March 31st, 2021

1:08:38

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 68: Baby FuzZ

March 24th, 2021

1:22:48

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 67: Alex Somers

March 17th, 2021

51:07

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep. 66: The Anchoress

March 10th, 2021

1:13:43

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 65: Buzzy Lee

March 3rd, 2021

1:05:27

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 64: Joshua Henry

February 24th, 2021

56:07

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 63: Shamir

February 17th, 2021

53:18

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 62: Parson James

February 10th, 2021

57:43

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 61: Reggie Watts

February 3rd, 2021

59:37

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 60: Chris Baio of Vampire Weekend

January 27th, 2021

54:35

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 59: Tegan and Sara

December 9th, 2020

1:18:43

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 58: Tawny Newsome and Bethany Thomas

December 2nd, 2020

58:04

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 57: Harvey Guillén of What We Do In The Shadows

November 18th, 2020

58:29

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 56: Ólafur Arnalds

November 11th, 2020

56:23

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 55: Greg Saunier of Deerhoof

October 28th, 2020

1:14:45

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 54: Icona Pop

October 21st, 2020

45:02

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 53: Perfume Genius

October 14th, 2020

1:14:25

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 52: William Cashion of Future Islands

October 7th, 2020

1:01:17

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 51: Aluna

September 30th, 2020

54:23

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, …

Ep 50: Thirst Aid Kit

September 23rd, 2020

1:01:43

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, …

Ep 49: Joe Wong

September 16th, 2020

1:13:04

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, …

Ep 48: Sad13 and Lustra

September 9th, 2020

1:46:22

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, …

Ep 47: Nite Jewel

September 2nd, 2020

1:03:48

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, …

Ep 46: Lido Pimienta

August 26th, 2020

57:20

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, …

Ep 45: Andre Henry

August 19th, 2020

1:01:43

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, …

Ep 44: Ioanna Gika

August 12th, 2020

1:05:59

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, …

Ep 43: AURORA

August 5th, 2020

52:32

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, …

Ep 42: Kathleen Hanna of Bikini Kill

July 29th, 2020

1:08:21

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, …

Ep 41: Shalita Grant of "Search Party"

July 22nd, 2020

1:22:41

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, …

Ep 40: Jarvis Cocker

July 15th, 2020

1:12:12

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, …

Ep 39: Soko

July 8th, 2020

53:37

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, …

Ep 38: Big Black Delta

July 1st, 2020

1:04:20

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, …

Ep 37: Mxmtoon

June 24th, 2020

48:33

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, …

Ep 36: Tolliver

June 19th, 2020

1:02:24

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, …

Ep 35: EdoHeart

June 17th, 2020

1:21:52

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, …

Ep 34: Jehnny Beth

June 10th, 2020

58:04

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, …

Ep 33: Sondre Lerche

May 27th, 2020

1:04:25

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, …

Ep 32: White Sea

May 23rd, 2020

56:55

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, …

Ep 31: Mark Foster

May 20th, 2020

1:10:18

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, …

Ep 30: Alison Mosshart

May 13th, 2020

1:03:48

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, …

Ep 29: Alice Bag

May 6th, 2020

1:11:03

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, …

Ep 28: Local Natives

April 29th, 2020

1:03:54

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, …

Ep 27: HANA

April 22nd, 2020

1:01:01

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, …

Ep 26: Joseph Fink of Welcome To Nightvale on creating surreal and beautiful stories

April 15th, 2020

58:58

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, …

Ep 25: Juana Molina

April 11th, 2020

51:47

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our second season, …

Ep 24: Hannah Marks

April 8th, 2020

1:09:20

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our second season, …

Ep 23: Phantogram

April 1st, 2020

53:55

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our second season, …

Ep. 22: Mara Wilson

March 28th, 2020

1:06:42

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our second season, …

Ep 21: Half Waif

March 25th, 2020

45:46

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our second season, …

Ep 20: Lane Moore

March 18th, 2020

1:01:19

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our second season, …

Ep 19: Simon Raymonde

March 11th, 2020

1:11:56

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our second season, …

Ep 18: U.S. Girls

March 4th, 2020

59:17

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our second season, …

Ep 17: Rob Graves

February 29th, 2020

1:24:07

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our second season, …

Ep 16: Sudan Archives

February 26th, 2020

50:19

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our second season, …

Ep 15: Best Coast

February 12th, 2020

1:03:24

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our second season, …

Ep 14: Iceland Airwaves with Madame Gandhi, Mightybear & Penelope Isles

February 5th, 2020

1:23:04

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our second season, …

Ep 13: Kid Moxie

January 29th, 2020

51:28

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our second season, …

Ep 12: Marissa Nadler

January 22nd, 2020

47:06

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our second season, …

Ep 11: Kate Nash

January 15th, 2020

1:17:36

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our second season, …

Ep 10: Nastya Valentine

July 26th, 2019

56:56

Why Not Both is a celebration of the multifaceted life. This week's episode features multimedia artist and aesthetician Nastya Valentine.

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Ep 9: Anousha Hutton

July 17th, 2019

51:38

Why Not Both is a podcast about how our multiple passions shape our identity and this week's episode features visual artist, photographer and tarot …

Ep 8: Gigi Engle

July 3rd, 2019

1:11:26

Why Not Both is a podcast about how our multiple passions shape our identity and this week's episode features sex coach and writer Gigi Engle.

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Ep 7: Toli Carter

June 26th, 2019

50:22

Why Not Both is a podcast about how our multiple passions shape our identity and this week's episode features game designer Toli Carter.

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Ep 6: Kristin Dwan

June 19th, 2019

49:09

Why Not Both is a podcast dedicated to how our multiple passions shape our identity. Join WNB host Pam Shaffer as she interviews a series of …

Ep 5: Laura Studarus

June 12th, 2019

39:21

Why Not Both got to turn the tables on writer Laura Studarus and ask her about her journey as a film student to journalist back to photographer. Expect deep insights on everything from traveling the world to where to …

Ep 4: Lucian Kahn

June 5th, 2019

50:00

Why Not Both is a podcast about how our multiple passions shape our identity and this week's episode features game developer and all round funny, …

Ep 3: Moushumi Ghose

May 29th, 2019

41:10

Why Not Both is a podcast about how our multiple passions shape our identity and this week's episode features sex therapist and musician Mou Ghose.

Ep 2: Adriana Colon

May 22nd, 2019

49:52

Why Not Both is a podcast dedicated to how our multiple passions shape our identity. Join WNB host Pam Shaffer as she interviews a series of …

Ep 1: Jason Porath

May 7th, 2019

44:50

Why Not Both is a podcast about how our multiple passions shape our identity and this week's episode features writer and visual effects artist Jason …

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Podcasters use the RadioPublic listener relationship platform to build lasting connections with fans

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Find new listeners

  • A dedicated website for your podcast
  • Web embed players designed to convert visitors to listeners in the RadioPublic apps for iPhone and Android
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Understand your audience

  • Capture listener activity with affinity scores
  • Measure your promotional campaigns and integrate with Google and Facebook analytics
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Engage your fanbase

  • Deliver timely Calls To Action, including email acquistion for your mailing list
  • Share exactly the right moment in an episode via text, email, and social media
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Make money

  • Tip and transfer funds directly to podcastsers
  • Earn money for qualified plays in the RadioPublic apps with Paid Listens