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Why Not Both

93 EpisodesProduced by Pam ShafferWebsite

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity. Presented by Under The Radar magazine, we interview a wide variety of creative guests who share how their various interests dovetail to create a vibrant life. Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/why-not-both/support

93 Episodes | 2019 - 2021

Ep 91: Shirley Manson of Garbage

September 22nd, 2021

36:16

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 90: William Shatner

September 15th, 2021

1:05:12

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 89: The Weather Station

September 8th, 2021

51:11

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 88: Mia Berrin of Pom Pom Squad

August 25th, 2021

1:02:54

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 87: David Duchovny

August 18th, 2021

36:49

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 86: Devon Gilfillian

August 11th, 2021

51:40

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 85: Devendra Banhart

August 4th, 2021

1:12:04

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 84: Laura Gómez

July 28th, 2021

1:09:54

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 83: Jonas Bjerre of Mew

July 21st, 2021

1:05:04

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 82: Anna of the North

July 7th, 2021

1:02:05

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 81: Laurie Penny

June 30th, 2021

1:00:49

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 80: John Grant

June 23rd, 2021

1:02:48

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 79: Anjimile

June 16th, 2021

1:06:22

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 78: Rufus Wainwright

June 9th, 2021

29:59

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 77: Claud

June 2nd, 2021

56:04

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 76: Vanessa Vakharia of The Math Guru and Goodnight Sunrise

May 26th, 2021

51:17

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 75: O Future

May 19th, 2021

1:22:57

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 74: Twin Shadow

May 12th, 2021

56:55

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Bonus Ep 2: Árni Ingólffson

May 8th, 2021

47:07

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Ep 73: Jenny Owen Youngs

May 5th, 2021

1:04:18

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 72: girl in red

April 28th, 2021

1:12:57

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 71: KCRW's Anne Litt

April 21st, 2021

1:13:01

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Bonus Ep 1: Freyja Eilíf

April 14th, 2021

1:05:36

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Ep 70: Julien Baker

April 7th, 2021

1:00:36

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 69: Nadya Tolokonnikova of Pussy Riot

March 31st, 2021

1:09:30

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 68: Baby FuzZ

March 24th, 2021

1:23:40

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 67: Alex Somers

March 17th, 2021

51:59

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep. 66: The Anchoress

March 10th, 2021

1:14:35

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 65: Buzzy Lee

March 3rd, 2021

1:06:19

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 64: Joshua Henry

February 24th, 2021

56:59

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 63: Shamir

February 17th, 2021

54:10

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 62: Parson James

February 10th, 2021

58:35

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 61: Reggie Watts

February 3rd, 2021

1:00:29

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 60: Chris Baio of Vampire Weekend

January 27th, 2021

55:27

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 59: Tegan and Sara

December 9th, 2020

1:19:35

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 58: Tawny Newsome and Bethany Thomas

December 2nd, 2020

58:56

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 57: Harvey Guillén of What We Do In The Shadows

November 18th, 2020

59:21

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 56: Ólafur Arnalds

November 11th, 2020

57:16

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 55: Greg Saunier of Deerhoof

October 28th, 2020

1:15:38

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 54: Icona Pop

October 21st, 2020

45:54

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 53: Perfume Genius

October 14th, 2020

1:15:17

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 52: William Cashion of Future Islands

October 7th, 2020

1:02:09

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer …

Ep 51: Aluna

September 30th, 2020

55:15

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, …

Ep 50: Thirst Aid Kit

September 23rd, 2020

1:02:35

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, …

Ep 49: Joe Wong

September 16th, 2020

1:13:56

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, …

Ep 48: Sad13 and Lustra

September 9th, 2020

1:47:14

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, …

Ep 47: Nite Jewel

September 2nd, 2020

1:04:41

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, …

Ep 46: Lido Pimienta

August 26th, 2020

58:12

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, …

Ep 45: Andre Henry

August 19th, 2020

1:02:35

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, …

Ep 44: Ioanna Gika

August 12th, 2020

1:06:51

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, …

Ep 43: AURORA

August 5th, 2020

53:24

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, …

Ep 42: Kathleen Hanna of Bikini Kill

July 29th, 2020

1:09:13

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, …

Ep 41: Shalita Grant of "Search Party"

July 22nd, 2020

1:23:34

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, …

Ep 40: Jarvis Cocker

July 15th, 2020

1:13:04

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, …

Ep 39: Soko

July 8th, 2020

54:29

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, …

Ep 38: Big Black Delta

July 1st, 2020

1:05:13

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, …

Ep 37: Mxmtoon

June 24th, 2020

49:25

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, …

Ep 36: Tolliver

June 19th, 2020

1:03:17

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, …

Ep 35: EdoHeart

June 17th, 2020

1:22:44

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, …

Ep 34: Jehnny Beth

June 10th, 2020

58:56

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, …

Ep 33: Sondre Lerche

May 27th, 2020

1:05:17

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, …

Ep 32: White Sea

May 23rd, 2020

57:47

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, …

Ep 31: Mark Foster

May 20th, 2020

1:11:10

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, …

Ep 30: Alison Mosshart

May 13th, 2020

1:04:40

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, …

Ep 29: Alice Bag

May 6th, 2020

1:11:55

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, …

Ep 28: Local Natives

April 29th, 2020

1:04:46

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, …

Ep 27: HANA

April 22nd, 2020

1:01:53

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, …

Ep 26: Joseph Fink

April 15th, 2020

59:50

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our third season, …

Ep 25: Juana Molina

April 11th, 2020

52:39

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our second season, …

Ep 24: Hannah Marks

April 8th, 2020

1:10:12

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our second season, …

Ep 23: Phantogram

April 1st, 2020

54:47

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our second season, …

Ep. 22: Mara Wilson

March 28th, 2020

1:07:34

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our second season, …

Ep 21: Half Waif

March 25th, 2020

46:38

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our second season, …

Ep 20: Lane Moore

March 18th, 2020

1:02:11

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our second season, …

Ep 19: Simon Raymonde

March 11th, 2020

1:12:48

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our second season, …

Ep 18: U.S. Girls

March 4th, 2020

1:00:09

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our second season, …

Ep 17: Rob Graves

February 29th, 2020

1:24:59

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our second season, …

Ep 16: Sudan Archives

February 26th, 2020

51:11

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our second season, …

Ep 15: Best Coast

February 12th, 2020

1:04:16

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our second season, …

Ep 14: Iceland Airwaves with Madame Gandhi, Mightybear & Penelope Isles

February 5th, 2020

1:23:56

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our second season, …

Ep 13: Kid Moxie

January 29th, 2020

52:20

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our second season, …

Ep 12: Marissa Nadler

January 22nd, 2020

47:58

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our second season, …

Ep 11: Kate Nash

January 15th, 2020

1:18:28

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer.  For our second season, …

Ep 10: Nastya Valentine

July 26th, 2019

57:48

Why Not Both is a celebration of the multifaceted life. This week's episode features multimedia artist and aesthetician Nastya Valentine.

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Ep 9: Anousha Hutton

July 17th, 2019

52:30

Why Not Both is a podcast about how our multiple passions shape our identity and this week's episode features visual artist, photographer and tarot …

Ep 8: Gigi Engle

July 3rd, 2019

1:12:18

Why Not Both is a podcast about how our multiple passions shape our identity and this week's episode features sex coach and writer Gigi Engle.

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Ep 7: Toli Carter

June 26th, 2019

51:14

Why Not Both is a podcast about how our multiple passions shape our identity and this week's episode features game designer Toli Carter.

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Ep 6: Kristin Dwan

June 19th, 2019

50:01

Why Not Both is a podcast dedicated to how our multiple passions shape our identity. Join WNB host Pam Shaffer as she interviews a series of …

Ep 5: Laura Studarus

June 12th, 2019

40:13

Why Not Both got to turn the tables on writer Laura Studarus and ask her about her journey as a film student to journalist back to photographer. Expect deep insights on everything from traveling the world to where to …

Ep 4: Lucian Kahn

June 5th, 2019

50:52

Why Not Both is a podcast about how our multiple passions shape our identity and this week's episode features game developer and all round funny, …

Ep 3: Moushumi Ghose

May 29th, 2019

42:02

Why Not Both is a podcast about how our multiple passions shape our identity and this week's episode features sex therapist and musician Mou Ghose.

Ep 2: Adriana Colon

May 22nd, 2019

50:44

Why Not Both is a podcast dedicated to how our multiple passions shape our identity. Join WNB host Pam Shaffer as she interviews a series of …

Ep 1: Jason Porath

May 7th, 2019

45:42

Why Not Both is a podcast about how our multiple passions shape our identity and this week's episode features writer and visual effects artist Jason …

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