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Wait What Really OK with Loren Weisman

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The Brand Messaging Podcast Wait What Really OK is Wait What Really OK is a methodical, comical and informational podcast sharing authentic brand messaging, optics approaches & strategies for honorable authority driven businesses. Brand Messaging Strategist Loren Weisman is a messaging and optics st… read more


Messaging before marketing to create a sound foundation.

Yes, marketing involves messaging. At the same time, my view is that many less than moral or ethical marketing organizations will run with a service, product or business and bring that client to the public prior to the foundational messaging being in place.

S7.E6.N119 Messaging before marketing to create a sound foundation is an authentic messaging and methodology perspective on the impact and the results of creating brand messaging as a first step.

Of course, messaging will shift, move and motion, but in my experiences, I have seen both small and large organizations save a fortune when they can work from a messaging palette that is not just pretty words that hit the intention of the client and the marketing company, but also taking into consideration...
and more.

The way many of the less than moral marketing types run to hype, pressure, spam and quickly shifting the message campaign by campaign, it ends up hurting the brands message, identity and validity.

On the other hand, I’ve watched marketers, marketing companies and PR agencies have an easier time being able to reach further at a faster tempo and a reduced cost.

And it is not about making the marketer less money, but allowing them to make more for their efforts and marketing strategies when the foundation is there.

I feel there are some marketers that understand the aspects of messaging, but a smaller number as a whole.

Still, it seems like so many are out there screaming from the mountain tops about how they will create popularity, opportunity and awareness, yet they throw expensive darts at a board or use unrelated metrics and templates to explain what needs to be done without really having a complete understanding of what they are saying.

Then many position themselves to take no liability for their spending and their campaigns that were built on the hippest trend that might have no direct relation or application to the specific client.

Or worse, the "I had all these big campaigns that worked 10, 20, 30 years ago" and the ever famous "Here is an example of an amazingly successful campaign I did" but that campaign had a budget ten times the size of the person they are pitching and a completely different product.

That is why I have come to the perspective of Messaging before Marketing.

S7.E6.N119 Messaging before marketing to create a sound foundation.

Brand Messaging Strategist Loren Weisman is a messaging and optics strategist for The Fish Stewarding Group. Loren focuses on the authenticity, authority, psychology and perceptions of the message and story. Weisman is also the host of the FSG brand messaging podcast; Wait What Really OK.
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Brand Messaging Podcast Music Credits 1: Opening Theme Song
“Fully Licensed Wait What Really Ok Theme Song" by RKVC.
Copyright 2016 eMbloh Music (ASCAP)/ Cienzo Music (BMI).
Administered by Ass Backwards Music (ASCAP)/Bass Ackwards Music (BMI)
Brand Messaging Podcast Music Credits 2: Closing Theme Song
“News and Information Podcast Percussion Outro” by Doug Hinrichs.
Copyright 2016 Dig and Be Dug Music (BMI).
Administered by Bass Ackwards Music (BMI).
Messaging before marketing to create a sound foundation.

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