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Unitarian Christian Alliance

78 EpisodesProduced by Mark Cain, UCA memberWebsite

The Trinity doctrine is perplexing. Many Christians prefer explicit Scriptures on the one God over catholic creeds. Mark Cain explores living as a lower-case-u unitarian amid a trinitarian majority with insights and stories from unorthodox guests.


52. The Company of Others - Patrick Navas

Favoring explicit over implicit interpretations, author Patrick Navas has journeyed from debate to seeking fellowship.



Events, being sure you get your UCA email, "watching" this podcast, comment from Tyler, on suggesting this podcast to Trinitarians, and the host is hauled away by Stormtroopers.


  • (00:50) Triumphal entry
  • (02:15) The Jews were worshiping a man
  • (04:38) Interview
  • (05:19) Earliest spiritual experience
  • (06:05) Jehovah’s Witnesses
  • (07:00) Suspect teachings
  • (07:24) JW exclusive authority, 1914
  • (08:52) The more explicit teachings
  • (09:56) Principle of insisting on particular interpretation
  • (10:55) Explicit Biblical teachings
  • (11:58) Schism based in identifying interpretations
  • (12:29) Birthdays
  • (13:25) Giving energy the less explicit
  • (14:35) Difficulty of having ties
  • (16:29) Church of Christ
  • (17:14) Patrick’s book
  • (18:31) The book’s source, approach
  • (19:38) Book is still in print
  • (20:16) Sales and email feedback
  • (22:01) The book’s content
  • (22:33) Desire to fellowship
  • (23:56) UCA conference reflections
  • (24:54) Needing togetherness
  • (26:38) What lit the fire under him
  • (28:25) The release of UCA session video
  • (29:37) Division on pre-existence
  • (31:26) Commonality of the rejected
  • (33:08) Stages of the journey
  • (34:06) Events
  • (34:52) Getting UCA emails
  • (36:11) Watching the podcast
  • (37:01) Comment from Tyler
  • (38:30) Recommending to others…Trinitarians?


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