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Indiana Funeral Directors Ryan and Brian discuss all things funeral.

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#260 Brie Smith, NOR Funeral Director

June 22nd, 2021


Brie Smith, funeral director and embalmer with Return Home, Washington state's largest natural organic reduction facility. 

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#259 Engineering Terramation with Steve Calson

June 18th, 2021


On our final day in Washington state, we visit with Steve Calson, operations director of Return Home, the state's largest natural organic reduction facility. 

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#258 Henry Johnston CFSP Returns to the Show

June 15th, 2021


Last time Henry was an employee. Since our last episode with Henry, he has become an owner. In this show, we chat about the process of purchasing a funeral home and how Henry's adapting to the new laws in Washington …

#257 Logan Woody, Funeral Director and Embalmer Intern

June 11th, 2021


While on the road in Washington state, we met Logan Woody, a funeral director and embalmer intern at Johnston and Williams Funeral Home. We jumped at the chance to get a new perspective. 

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#256 Kittitas County Coroner Nick Henderson

June 8th, 2021


While touring natural organic reduction facilities in Washington state, the guys sit down with Kittitas County Coroner, Nick Henderson.

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#255 Natural Organic Reduction with The Green Reaper, Walt Patrick and a Woodpecker at Herland Forest

June 4th, 2021


We visited Herland Forest in Washington state to discuss Natural Organic Reduction. On this episode we visit with Walt Patrick and The Green Reaper, Elizabeth Fournier.

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#254 The Gaffney Group with Corey Gaffney

June 1st, 2021


New markets are emerging in funeral service with alkaline hydrolysis and natural organic reduction. While in Washington state, we discuss all this …

#253 Wrapping Up IFDA 140 with Andy Clayton

May 31st, 2021


Andy Clayton, Executive Director of the Indiana Funeral Directors Association stops by to review the success of the 140th convention.

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#252 Pandemic Supply Chain with Jay Oglesby

May 31st, 2021


At the IFDA 140th convention, Jay Oglesby of Matthews Aurora Funeral Solutions stops by the podcast booth to discuss how they were able to supply …

#251 Dominick Astorino at IFDA 140

May 29th, 2021


Dominick Astorino spoke at the Indiana Funeral Directors Association's 140th convention about the importance of viewing and restorative art. We catch up with him on the trade show floor.

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#250 Walking The Trade Show Floor

May 28th, 2021


Indiana Funeral Directors Association hosted their 140th convention this week and the lads take their new mobile equipment for a walk as they visit the vendors and suppliers. 

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#249 First Call Plus

May 25th, 2021


Steve Webster of First Call Plus, discusses alkaline hydrolysis and how he's introducing this process to business. 

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#248 Recompose with Katrina Spade

May 21st, 2021


Katrina Spade, founder and CEO of Recompose, joins the show to discuss the journey into natural organic reduction and how Recompose works.

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#247 Passing The Bill with Senator Jamie Pedersen

May 18th, 2021


Washington State Senator, Jamie Pedersen joins the show to talk about passing the Natural Organic Reduction bill.

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#246 The Funeral Service Job Market

May 14th, 2021


We continue our discussion about the job market in funeral service with Steve Johnson, CFSP.

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#245 D.E.A.D! Death Education Assessment Drills

May 11th, 2021


Steven Johnson, CFSP, embalmer, funeral director, educator and innovator from the state of New York joins the show to discuss, D.E.A.D! Death Education Assessment Drills.

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#244 Anna's Big Wish

May 7th, 2021


Tracy Harding, award winning author of the children's book, Anna's Big Wish, joins the show to tell the story behind the book.

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#243 Smokin' Tails Distillery with Peter Cheney

May 4th, 2021


Peter Cheney bought his funeral home at 27 years old. He also has a unique hobby, distilling. Recently, Peter won a competition on Moonshiners: …

#242 The Helpers with John Rabold

April 30th, 2021


John Rabold, the voice of Undertaking: The Podcast, visits the show for the first time. John works with Indiana Donor Network to help ease the …

#241 Supporting Funeral Directors With Donation

April 27th, 2021


Mackenzie Hughey, Funeral Director Liaison with the Indiana Donor Network joins the show to discuss her role in helping funeral directors manage …

#240 Supporting Donor Families

April 23rd, 2021


As we continue Donate Life Month, we bring you the story of Tristan and her mother, Tammy. We also speak with Courtney, Manager of Aftercare Support with the Indiana Donor Network. 

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#239 Catching The Phones During COVID with ASD

April 20th, 2021


ASD, Answering Service for Directors, helps almost 50 percent of funeral homes in the United States. During COVID, this task became monumental. Craig from ASD joins to show to discuss their struggle to help families and …

#238 Advocating For Donor Families

April 16th, 2021


Choosing organ donation for a family member happens at a time of great loss and confusion. Family Advocates, Erin Wilson and Jenna Wise, work with …

#237 Undertaker 365

April 13th, 2021


Jake Vandenberg, host and creator of Undertaker 365, joins the show to talk shop with the guys. 

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#236 The Vital Link Between Donors, Families and Funeral Directors

April 9th, 2021


Connecting donors, families and funeral homes can be extremely difficult. Sara Valentine of the Indiana Donor Network joins the show to explain how …

#235 Remembering Jerrit Clayton

April 6th, 2021


Jerrit Clayton, 115th President of the Indiana Funeral Directors Association, died on March 24, 2021. Today we honor his service to funeral service.

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#234 Receiving The Gift of Life

April 2nd, 2021


Judi, a double-lung transplant recipient and her son Zach, join the show to discuss the value of organ donation and how life can be saved with one simple decision. 

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#233 Post Mortem Restorative Cosmetics with Dean Jones

March 30th, 2021


Emmy Award winning special effects makeup artist, Dean Jones, joins the show to discuss his journey into funeral service cosmetics. 

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#232 Frigid Fluid with Don Frigid himself, Nelson Sanchez

March 26th, 2021


Nelson Sanchez, director of sales for Frigid Fluid Company and host of the Don Frigid Podcast joins the show to discuss his role at the company and …

#231 Data Pirates

March 23rd, 2021


How do funeral homes protect your family's data? Can funeral homes trust the companies that help us? It's up for debate.

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#230 The Funeral Girl Y'all

March 19th, 2021


Meg Aubrey has a unique journey into funeral service. Follow her at the Funeral Girl and hear her story here.

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#229 How To Choose A Funeral Home Revisited

March 16th, 2021


Ryan and Brian share their opinions on the best way to choose a funeral home. 

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#228 The Bearded Preneed Guy with Jason Simmons

March 12th, 2021


Jason Simmons, the bearded preneed guy, joins to show to talk about thinking differently and preplanning funerals. 

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#227 Difficult Conversations with Jamie Sarche

March 9th, 2021


Talking about death isn't always easy, using proper terminology can help. Jamie Sarche returns to the show to discuss how we approach tough …

#226 The Vaccine

March 5th, 2021


Are funeral directors getting vaccinated? 

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#225 Two Truths And A Lie: Death Certificate Edition

March 2nd, 2021


Are families getting the death certificates they desperately need? The guys hash out what's been happening since the last discussion about Indiana's new death certificate system.

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#224 Living Beyond Grief with Calista Anderson

February 26th, 2021


Calista Anderson joins the show to discuss online grief support. 

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#223 Tanya Marsh and Death, et seq

February 23rd, 2021


The lads play "Quiz the Lawyer" with educator, lawyer and host of the podcast: Death, et seq., Tanya Marsh.

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#222 Turning Art Into Science with Dr. Damon De La Cruz

February 19th, 2021


Dr. Damon De La Cruz, author of Turning Art Into Science, joins the show to discuss the chemistry within embalming. 

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#221 A Photojournalist In A Pandemic with Andrew Kelly

February 16th, 2021


New York City photojournalist, Andrew Kelly of and Reuters, joins the show to talk about what he saw and felt during the pandemic.

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#220 Coming Full Circle with Jason Johnston CFSP

February 12th, 2021


Jason Johnston CFSP, joins the show to discuss his his journey into funeral service. 

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#219 Grief Therapy Dogs with Katey and Abe, Plus Our Take On A Coroner That Won't Transport Bodies

February 9th, 2021


Katey Houston and her grief therapy dog Abe joins the show. And the guys discuss what happens when a coroner refuses to transport bodies.

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#218 The Jewish Funeral Rite with Jamie Sarche

February 5th, 2021


Jamie Sarche joins the show to talk about Jewish funeral rituals and customs.

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#217 The Funeral Director's Journalist with Thomas Parmalee

February 2nd, 2021


Kates-Boylston Publications has been serving funeral service since 1877 with American Cemetery & Cremation, Funeral Service Insider, Funeral Service Extra, Funerals of the Famous and Brian's all-time favorite, …

#216 A Tweet, A $600 Casket and Ryan's Soapbox

January 29th, 2021


Is Ryan a little sideways? The guys chat about price, value and and a casket from Costco. No, they don't come is packs of six. 

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#215 Debating the CFSP Designation. Will Ryan Join the Academy?

January 26th, 2021


The Academy of Professional Funeral Service Practice believe in life-long learning through personal and professional development. For those that join the academy and meet its qualifications, they earn the CFSP, …

#214 Members Talks with Washington State Funeral Directors Association

January 22nd, 2021


Rob Goff, Executive Director of the Washington State Funeral Directors Association interviews Brian and Ryan for their show, Member Talks. 

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#213 Social Media and Funeral Service

January 19th, 2021


Sometimes it's not okay to post. Kari Northey returns to the show to discuss social media and funeral service.

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#212 Is DRIVE In Park? Indiana's Death Certificate Debacle

January 15th, 2021


Andy Clayton, Executive Director of the Indiana Funeral Directors Association returns to the show to give an update into the debacle of the new Indiana death certificate system called DRIVE.

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#211 Funeral Professionals Peer Support

January 12th, 2021


Michael and Kim from Funeral Professionals Peer Support join the show to discuss the groups origins and how people can get involved locally. 

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#210 Death Certificate Drama

January 8th, 2021


Funeral directors go to great lengths to help families obtain death certificates. Ryan and Brian discuss the challenges of getting others to fulfill …

#209 The Story of the US Honor Flag

January 5th, 2021


The US Honor Flag is a single flag with a unique story. Chris Heisler joins the show to share the flag's origin story and this one flag has impacted Americans all across the country.

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#208 Bugger Off 2020

January 1st, 2021


Welcome 2021 and bugger off 2020. Ryan and Brian review the products they tried over the past year. Check it out.

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#207 Funeral Flowers

December 29th, 2020


Ryan and Brian discuss the ins and outs of funeral tributes. Check it out.

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#206 Christmas In The Funeral Home

December 25th, 2020


Merry Christmas everyone. To all the funeral professionals working today, we thank you and so do your families. Make some memories today folks.

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#205 The Demise of the Loewen Group

December 22nd, 2020


Todd Van Beck returns to the show to discuss the failure of the Loewen Group. 

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#204 A Unified Voice

December 18th, 2020


Does funeral service in America have a unified voice? Ryan and Brian break down the different associations that represent funeral service.

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#203 Our COVID Situation

December 15th, 2020


Ryan and Brian review their experience with Covid-19 thus far. 

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#202 The Value, Purpose & Benefit of the Funeral with Todd Van Beck

December 11th, 2020


The boys are back in Nashville, Tennessee to talk more with Todd Van Beck about the value, purpose and benefit of the funeral. 

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#201 Leslie Needs A Kidney

December 8th, 2020


The guys are joined by Leslie and her sister Michelle. Michelle received a kidney transplant years ago, now, her sister Leslie, has been placed on the donor list.

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#200 Debating Jessica Mitford with Todd Van Beck

December 4th, 2020


In 1963, Jessica Mitford wrote the book "The American Way of Death", later she would debate funeral service with Todd Van Beck. Today, Todd joins the …

#199 The Death Expert

December 1st, 2020


Michelle Carter, The Death Expert, joins the show to talk about how she uses social media to further her mission to promote conversation and planning for death.

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#198 The Wrong Grave

November 27th, 2020


Funeral directors are often faced with ethical dilemmas and most often with very little time to make a proper decision. Ryan and Brian examine a situation with a grave and how funeral directors approach this situation.

#197 Happy Thanksgiving

November 26th, 2020


Happy Thanksgiving everyone. Make someone's day and tell them you love them.

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#196 Military Funeral Honors

November 24th, 2020


Often Military Funeral Honors are unable to be provided. We talk with Sgt. Andreas Allcock Ret., to give us some perspective on why some honors don't happen.

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#195 Africa, Education and Embalming with Dominick Astorino

November 20th, 2020


The boys return to Detroit, Michigan to find Dominick Astorino. They discuss his passion for embalming and education. 

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#194 The Cincinnati Bengals Chaplain, LaMorris Crawford

November 17th, 2020


Cincinnati Bengals Chaplain, LaMorris Crawford, joins the show to talk about life, love and how we celebrate funerals. 

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#193 What Cremation Consumers Think with Barbara Kemmis

November 13th, 2020


In part two of our discussion with Barbara Kemmis, Executive Director of the Cremation Association of North America, we discuss a study of the opinions of cremation consumers. Tune in to see what they said.

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#192 A Cremation Discussion with Barbara Kemmis

November 10th, 2020


Barbara Kemmis, Executive Director of the Cremation Association of North America returns to the show to talk about cremation, direction cremation and COVID. 

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#191 Remembering Tony Karsnia

November 6th, 2020


Tony Karsnia, President of the Professional Car Society died this week. Tony was an excellent funeral director and an even better person. He will be missed. 

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#190 Are Cemeteries Too Expensive

November 3rd, 2020


Are burials too expensive? Ryan and Brian go down the rabbit hole to discuss the ins and outs of burials.

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#189 Discussing Embalming with Patrick Huey

October 30th, 2020


Patrick Huey, licensed funeral director and embalmer in Texas, is a highly respected and skilled restorative artist. Patrick joins Ryan and Brian to discuss his journey and his passion for embalming and education.

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#188 Moving A Body

October 27th, 2020


On today's show, Ryan and Brian discuss moving a body and the strange situations funeral directors sometimes find themselves in.

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#187 Ring Ring Marketing with Welton Hong

October 23rd, 2020


Welton Hong, founder of Ring Ring Marketing, joins the show to discuss everything a funeral director needs to understand about marketing.

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#186 Feature Building

October 20th, 2020


The living partake in many types of facial fillers including Botox, Dysport and Xeomin. But is there something similar for the dead? In this episode the guys discuss feature building and Brian wonders why Ryan is …

#185 Human Composting with Micah Truman Founder of Return Home

October 16th, 2020


Natural Organic Reduction, Human Composting or Terramation, whatever you call it, it's legal and happening in Washington State. Tune in as we chat with Micah Truman, founder of Return Home.

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#184 Do We Need To Bring Pants - Clothing The Dead

October 13th, 2020


Clothing the dead can be time consuming, difficult, and physically demanding. It can also be confusing for families. Ryan and Brian have a back and …

#183 Listener Questions Answered

October 9th, 2020


Ryan and Brian dive into a list of questions that listeners have sent in over the past few months. 

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#182 The Dress Code - Tattoos and Body Art

October 6th, 2020


We're talking body art today, body art for the living that is. Many prospective funeral directors have asked and today we're talking about what to expect from a potential employer. 

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#181 How The Dead Look - Listener Questions Answered

October 2nd, 2020


We've had many questions come to us in the past two years. Many have asked, "why do they look like this?" In this episode, Ryan and Brian discuss situations that cause a change in appearance before or after death. 

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#180 National Suicide Prevention Month - The Lankford Story

September 29th, 2020


In another episode in the Life Through Loss Series, Ryan and Brian talk with licensed funeral director and embalmer, Randy Lankford. The trio discuss National Suicide Prevention Month and Randy bravely shares his …

#179 Curtains - Adventures Of An Undertaker-In-Training with Tom Jokinen

September 25th, 2020


Tom Jokinen, author of Curtains: Adventures of an Undertaker-In-Training, joins the show. Tom talks about his work as an apprentice funeral director and what he learned along his journey in writing his book. 

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#178 Your Life Talks with Jolene Hill

September 22nd, 2020


Jolene Hill, a funeral director from Australia, joins the show to talk about Your Life Talks, a creative way to spark end of life planning and …

#177 Video Chat Gets An Afterlife with AFTR

September 18th, 2020


A grave camera? Yes, exactly. With AFTR, you can virtually visit your loved one's grave, anytime, anywhere. 

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#176 The Memorial Frame

September 15th, 2020


The Memorial Frame was invented by Geraldine Doris Grenci but she died before it came to market. Her son, Angelo Grenci, joins the show to talk about how he's carrying on her legacy by continuing her vision.

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#175 Remembering 9/11 - Our Stories

September 11th, 2020


Brian and Ryan, remember 9/11 by sharing their story of where they were and what they were doing September 11th, 19 years ago.

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#174 Anna Marie Foster

September 8th, 2020


Funeral director and embalmer Anna Marie Foster joins to the show to discuss her journey into funeral service. 

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#173 Hearse Talk with Ron King of Butler Coach Company

September 4th, 2020


Ron King of Butler Coach Company returns to the show to discuss all the new products for 2020 from Platinum, MK, K2 Vehicles and Coasson. 

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#172 The Importance of Viewing with Shane Ritchie, Founder of NecroMetics

September 1st, 2020


Shane Ritchie, founder of NecroMetics, joins the show to share a personal story of life, death and the importance of viewing. We also discuss NecroMetics, the newest company to offer cosmetics to the funeral industry. 

#171 Alive In Detroit - Waking Up In A Funeral Home

August 28th, 2020


This week near Detroit, a young woman was pronounced dead and transported to a funeral home where their employees found that she was, in fact, alive. 

#170 Introducing

August 25th, 2020


Pedro Acosta, founder of joins the show to introduce his company and how TrueBonds can help funeral homes and consumers. 

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#169 Remembering Bryan Clauson

August 21st, 2020


In the third episode of our Life After Loss Series, we talk with Taylor McLean as we remember the life of Bryan Clauson. At the end of the show, we …

#168 Time To Fly - Life Through Loss Series

August 18th, 2020


In our second Life Through Loss Series, Eileen Robertson Hamra, author of "Time To Fly", joins the show to talk about the death of her husband and how she worked through her grief journey.

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#167 COVID-19 Here and Now

August 14th, 2020


Ryan and Brian answer listener questions about Covid-19.

#166 Talking Insurance with Express Funeral Funding

August 11th, 2020


Patrick and Andy, from Express Funeral Funding are back on the show to talk about how they can help funeral homes and families get paid.

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#165 Karl Wenzel and Genelyn Embalming Fluid

August 7th, 2020


Karl Wenzel, founder of the Canadian School of Advanced Prep, joins the show to talk about Genelyn Canada, the newest embalming supply company in …

#164 Children and Funerals with Lacie and Katherine, Authors of In Loving Memory A Child's Journey to Understanding A Funeral and Starting the Grieving Process

August 4th, 2020


Lacie Brueckner and Katherine Pendergast, Authors of the new book: In Loving Memory: A Child's Journey to Understanding Funerals and Starting the Grieving Process, join the show to discuss how to talk to children about …

#163 Facebook Marketing with Bill Johnston, Founder of Post and Boost

July 31st, 2020


Bill Johnston, Founder of Post and Boost, a Facebook Marketing company, joins the show to discuss how using social media is key to a funeral home's success. 

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#162 End of Life Doula with Angela Hershey

July 28th, 2020


Angela Hershey, founder of the Indy End of Life Collective and an End of Life Doula, joins the show to talk about care of and for the dying. Find her …

#161 CANA's Virtual Convention with Barbara Kemmis, Executive Director of CANA

July 24th, 2020


Barbara Kemmis, Executive Director of CANA, the Cremation Association of North America, joins the show to chat about their upcoming virtual convention. 

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#160 The Domani Group

July 21st, 2020


Jon Lefrandt, CEO and founder of The Domani Group joins the show to talk about aftercare and grief support in the digital age.

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#159 The Body Farm OR a Funeral Director, Embalmer and Forensic Anthropologist, with Jake Smith

July 17th, 2020


Jake Smith, a funeral director, an embalmer, educator, and forensic anthropologist, joins the show to discuss decomposition and other related funeral …

#158 Grant and My Funeral Home Stories Return

July 14th, 2020


The second half of season three of My Funeral Home Stories returns Thursday. Creator of the show, Grant, returns to Undertaking: The Podcast to chat about the making of season three plus a load of other interesting …

#157 Anatomical Embalming and Donation with Shawna Rodabaugh

July 10th, 2020


Shawna Rodabaugh, an educator with Fayetteville Tech in North Carolina, joins the show to talk embalming and anatomical donation. 

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#156 Five Generations of Service in Buffalo, New York with Evan C. Loomis

July 7th, 2020


Evan C. Loomis, funeral director and embalmer, joins the show to talk life, legacy, and funeral service in Buffalo, New York.

#155 CANA 102nd Convention with Larry Stuart Jr.

July 3rd, 2020


Larry Stuart Jr., of Cremation Strategy and Consulting, returns to the show to talk about CANA's 102nd annual convention that is going virtual as …

#154 Julie's Story - Life Through Loss Series

June 30th, 2020


Julie Schultz recently celebrated the 28th anniversary of receiving a life-saving transplant. Join us was we hear her story. 

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#153 Grief and Burnout with Dr. Jason Troyer

June 26th, 2020


Dr. Jason Troyer and counseling psychologist found his way from working in education to bringing his talents to funeral service. Have a listen as we …

#152 Queens, New York-Documenting COVID-19

June 23rd, 2020


Annmarie Rudolph of Queens, New York joins the show to talk about her experience with COVID-19. 

#151 The Funeral Law Lady

June 19th, 2020


Emily Albrecht, the Funeral Law Lady, joins the show to chat about mortuary law and what funeral directors need to understand. 

#150 The One Hundred Fifteth Episode

June 16th, 2020


Ryan and Brian's very first guest from episode 2, Nathan McCullough of Matthews Aurora Funeral Solutions, returns to the show to reverse roles and …

#149 Care First Grief App with Scot Bradford

June 12th, 2020


On today's show, we've got the creator of the very first grief app, Care First, Mr. Scot Bradford. Have a listen as we follow his grief journey to a …

#148 COVID-19 Our Journey So Far

June 9th, 2020


Ryan and Brian rehash their experience since the last episode where they documented their world and COVID-19. 

#147 Rosewood Classic Coach

June 5th, 2020


Richard Neal, owner of Rosewood Classic Coach joins the show to discuss the amazing vehicles they manufacture. 

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#146 The Reinforcements - Covid-19

June 2nd, 2020


Many have volunteered and many have risked their lives to help their fellow funeral directors and embalmers in New York. Nate Calvert was one of …

#145 Active Wealth Radio Show

May 29th, 2020


Ford Stokes and Brandy Seats, hosts of the Active Wealth Radio Show from Atlanta, Georgia, join the show to discuss financial planning. 

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#144 Gather - The Future of Funeral Home Software

May 26th, 2020


Zach Chatterton, founder of Gather, joins the show to talk about how funeral home software should work and how it can make a difference in the lives …

#143 Funerals and Video Production with Midwest Streams

May 22nd, 2020


Kyle Fogarty, founder of Midwest Streams, joins the show to discuss livestreaming and video production of funerals. 

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#142 Ashes to Diamonds with Eterneva

May 19th, 2020


Can cremated remains be transformed into a diamond? Absolutely! Katy from Eterneva joins the show to discuss the process and how funeral directors …

#141 Miami Dade College of Mortuary Science

May 15th, 2020


Dr. Tanya Scotece of Miami Dade College of Mortuary Science joins the show. 

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#140 Worsham College of Mortuary Science with Leili McMurrough

May 12th, 2020


Worsham College of Mortuary Science has been educating the next generation of funeral directors and embalmer since 1911. Program Director Leili …

#139 Cincinnati College of Mortuary Science

May 8th, 2020


President and CEO of Cincinnati College of Mortuary Science, Jack Lechner, Jr., returns to the show the talk about education in funeral service and …

#138 Kari Northey Is Back

May 5th, 2020


Kari Northey, funeral director, embalmer, as well as producer and host of a hit YouTube channel on funeral service information, returns to the show to catch up with the guys. 

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#137 A Life of Service: Arlington National Cemetery and Army Mortuary Affairs with COL Jack Jechner, Jr. RET

May 1st, 2020


COL Jack Lechner, Jr. RET, joins the show to talk about his career in funeral service as well as his time with the Army Mortuary Affairs and Arlington National Cemetery.

#136 Sales In Funeral Service with Mark Bowser

April 28th, 2020


Mark Bowser, author, public speaker and leadership consultant, joins the show to discuss sales in funeral service.

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#135 Embalming Education In Kenya with Dominick Astorino

April 24th, 2020


Operation Kenya, the mission to bring embalming education to Africa is complete and Dominick Astorino joins the show to give the details. 

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#134 Morty the Mortician

April 21st, 2020


Mortician and stand-up comic, Morty Stein joins the show to discuss funeral service and how public speaking led to stand-up comedy. 

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#133 Randy Nash Jr.

April 17th, 2020


Randy Nash Jr., President of the Tennessee Funeral Directors Association, joins the show to discuss his journey into funeral service.

#132 Positivity with Mark J. Lindquist

April 14th, 2020


The lads needed a breath of fresh air and a bit of positivity. Who did they look to? None other than Mark J. Lindquist, author of Passion. 

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#131 New York-The Front Line with J. M. Bernaudo

April 10th, 2020


The guys speak with J.M. Bernaudo from Long Island about the situation with COVID-19 in New York.

#130 Diary of a Broken Mind with Ann Moss Rogers

April 7th, 2020


The topic of suicide is always a difficult discussion. The guys welcome Ann Moss Rogers, author of Diary of a Broken Mind, to the show to discuss her …

#129 Documenting COVID-19

April 3rd, 2020


Brian and Ryan discuss the happenings with COVID-19 over the past few days. 

#128 On Burnout with Caleb Wilde

March 31st, 2020


Caleb Wilde, author of Confessions of a Funeral Director joins the show to discuss burnout and stress in funeral service.

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#127 County Coroner and Funeral Director - Scott Smith

March 27th, 2020


The lads chat with Scott Smith, long-time funeral director and county coroner, about balancing both jobs. 

#126 COVID-19 - A Week In Review

March 24th, 2020


Ryan and Brian discuss the fast-paced changes with COVID-19 and how that's affecting funeral service.

#125 Dead Serious: My Life As A Funeral Director with J. Kevin Watts

March 20th, 2020


Funeral Director and author, J. Kevin Watts, joins the show to discuss his new book, Dead Serious: My Life As A Funeral Director.

#124 COVID-19 - A Discussion

March 17th, 2020


Ryan and Brian discuss the happenings of the last week with COVID-19 and their affects on funeral service. 

#123 The Wives Are Back

March 13th, 2020


Paige and Tracy are back to talk about the challenges of supporting their family, their career and their funeral director husbands. They guys also quiz Tracy about what she's learned about Covid-19.

#122 Married To A Funeral Director

March 10th, 2020


Ryan and Brian's wives, Tracy and Paige join the show to talk about what it is like to be married to funeral directors. 

#121 The Watermelon Oreo Test with Ben Schmidt

March 6th, 2020


The Watermelon Oreo Test is here! Ben Schmidt of Worsham College of Mortuary Science joins the show to discuss products and services and how they are …

#120 Hospitality In Funeral Service with Tom Sproles

March 3rd, 2020


Recording from the Statehouse, Tom Sproles, funeral director in Indiana, chats with the guys about Hospitality in funeral service.

#119 The Greening of Funeral Service with Melissa Unfred

February 28th, 2020


Melissa Unfred, AKA the Modern Mortician, specializes in green funeral service. She joins the show to discuss ways funeral directors can help families reduce their carbon footprint of their death rituals.

To learn more …

#118 From the Indiana Statehouse with Jon Ballard

February 25th, 2020


Recording from Indiana Funeral Directors Association Day at the Statehouse, the guys chat with Ryan's uncle, Jon Ballard, Vice President of IFDA. 

#117 Hannah's Story - Working As A Crematory Technician

February 21st, 2020


An aspiring funeral director and embalmer, Hannah, a certified crematory technician in Washington state, joins the show to share her journey in funeral service.

#116 Cremation and A Haircut

February 18th, 2020


Buyer beware. Not all companies are created equal. Shopping for cremation on the internet can be a coin toss at best. The guys break it down in this episode. 

#115 Coronavirus and Funeral Service

February 14th, 2020


Coronavirus is all over the news and people are asking questions. Embalmers and funeral directors have questions too. We talk it through in this episode. Plus a special visit by Andy Clayton, Executive Director of the …

#114 Alkaline Hydrolysis with Resomation America

February 11th, 2020


In our final episode from NFDA 2019, we chat with Sandy from Resomation America. Alkaline hydrolysis is now legal in 20 states. In this show, we get …

#113 Remembering Matt Luecking and The Choice of Forgiveness

February 7th, 2020


On October 24, 2016, Matt Luecking of Terre Haute, Indiana was murdered. His brother Eric joins the show to share Matt's story and to share a story of forgiveness, grief and honor. 

To learn more about this story visit:

#112 Curtis Rostad

February 4th, 2020


Curtis Rostad of the Foresight Companies stops by to talk consulting, OHSA, prep room safety and even Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease. 

#111 The Professional Car Society with Tony Karsnia

January 31st, 2020


Tony Karsnia of the Professional Car Society stops by the show to discuss hearses, ambulances and funeral service. 

#110 Doric Burial Vault

January 28th, 2020


At NFDA 2019, David Priest of Doric Burial Vault stopped by to share their story.

#109 DNA Memorial

January 24th, 2020


Have you heard of collecting DNA after death? What can be done with it? Who collects it? We get our questions with Ryan Lehto of DNA Memorial - learn …

#108 Vital ICE

January 21st, 2020


Listen and learn along with the guys as they speak with Frank Hastings Jr. of Vital ICE. 

#107 Round Two with Monica Torres

January 17th, 2020


Monica Torres of NXT Generation Mortuary Support joins the show for a second time. 

Check out NXT Gen Mortuary Support at:

#106 Larry Stuart Jr. of Cremation Strategies and Consulting

January 14th, 2020


Larry Stuart Jr. of Cremation Strategies and Consulting stops by the Kellerman Family of Vehicles booth at NFDA 2019 to chat about all kinds of …

#105 Monica Torres and NXT Generation Mortuary Support

January 10th, 2020


We chat with Monica Torres who owns and operates NXT Generation Mortuary Support. Monica provides continuing education classes to funeral directors and embalmers but also attends events where consumers can learn about …

#104 National Mortuary Shipping and Cremation with Sepio Guard

January 7th, 2020


National Mortuary Shipping and Cremation stops by the show to chat about the services they offer plus a special introduction to Sepio Guard.

#103 Ben Schmidt of Worsham College of Mortuary Science

January 3rd, 2020


Mortuary school is challenging. We chat with educator Ben Schmidt of Worsham College of Mortuary Science and author of the new Restorative Art …

#102 Networking With Andy Clayton

December 31st, 2019


Andy Clayton, Executive Director of the Indiana Funeral Directors Association, stops by the Kellerman Family of Vehicles Booth to chat with Ryan and Brian about funeral service. 

#101 Goodbye 2019 - Hello 2020

December 27th, 2019


Ryan and Brian review their activities in 2019 plus a review of the new products they've tried. 2020 is right around the corner and the lads discuss what's in store for Undertaking: The Podcast.

#100 Lance Ray

December 24th, 2019


At NFDA in Chicago, Lance Ray of Pierce Chemical stops by the show, not to talk Pierce Chemical and embalming, but to share the story of the death of his father. 

#99 Wallace Hooker

December 20th, 2019


Wallace Hooker joins the show to discuss his presentations at NFDA as well as his thoughts on funeral directing and embalming in general.

#98 Funeral Directors Life with Todd Carlson

December 17th, 2019


Todd Carlson, Executive Vice President of Sales and Chief Sales Officer with Funeral Directors Life joins the podcast to chat about the current state of funeral service, the future and Funeral Directors Life.

#97 Jzyk Ennis PH.D

December 13th, 2019


During NFDA 2019 in Chicago, Ryan and Brian chat with author, educator and leader in funeral service, Jzyk Ennis PH.D. Pick up his books - Embalming Standards of Care and Embalming And Renal Failure - A Silent Danger …

#96 eFuneral with Luke Frieberg

December 10th, 2019


During NFDA 2019, host Brian Waters and special guest host, Henry Johnston, chat with Luke Frieberg about eFuneral and how they can help funeral homes help consumers make purchases online. 

#95 Passare with Josh McQueen

December 6th, 2019


At NFDA in Chicago, Ryan and Brian chat with Josh McQueen about Passare and how Passare can help funeral directors be more efficient and how Passare can help families network with funeral homes.

#94 Federated Funeral Directors of America with Curt Dailey

December 3rd, 2019


At NFDA in Chicago, Ryan and Brian chat with Curt Dailey with Federated Funeral Directors of America. 

#93 Jack Adams

November 29th, 2019


Ryan and Brian chat with long-time embalmer, educator and inspiration to many, Jack Adams.

#92 Thanksgiving Special 2019

November 28th, 2019


Brian and Ryan share their thankfulness in their second Thanksgiving Special. 

#91 Speech Practice

November 26th, 2019


The lads practice a speech about funeral directors and their relationship with organ and tissue recovery. 

#90 Grief Anonymous with Holly Barker

November 22nd, 2019


While at NFDA in Chicago, Ryan and Brian meet Holly Barker, the founder of Grief Anonymous. Holly has a powerful story and grief journey. Hear her …

#89 Questions From the Students of Miami Dade College

November 19th, 2019


Ryan and Brian get together to answer questions collected from the mortuary science students of Miami Dade College.

#88 Platinum, MK and K2 Vehicles

November 15th, 2019


At NFDA in Chicago, Ryan and Brian chat with their hosts, Mike, Joe and Steve Kellerman, the manufacturers of Platinum, MK and K2 vehicles. 

#87 Burial At Sea with Maritime Burials

November 12th, 2019


While at NFDA in Chicago, Brian and Ryan met David from Maritime Burials. Tune in as the guys learn about burial at sea. For more information about burial at sea visit:

#86 Robert Falcon

November 8th, 2019


Funeral director and embalmer from Austin, Texas, Robert Falcon stops by the show at NFDA in Chicago.  We discuss everything from funeral directing to shoes to the death of his mother.  

#85 Miami Dade College with Tanya Scotece

November 5th, 2019


Are you a student enrolled in mortuary school? Are you considering a career in funeral service? This episode is for you. Tanya Scotece, Ph.D., from …

#84 Remembering Harry Lee Waterfield with Garth Waterfield

November 1st, 2019


Harry Lee Waterfield, President and CEO of Investors Heritage Life Insurance Company passed away in September.  His son, Garth, stops by the show to tell us about his father's life, his death and how his family chose to …

#83 NFDA Day 3

October 31st, 2019


As the lads travel back from Chicago and the NFDA convention, they discuss all the great people they met and all the exciting stories that will be coming soon.

#82 NFDA Day 2

October 30th, 2019


Brian gives an update on day two of the National Funeral Directors Association Conference. 

#81 NFDA Day 1

October 29th, 2019


We're at NFDA 2019 in Chicago. Hear a quick run down of day one of the convention.

#80 MKJ Marketing with Courtney Gould Miller

October 25th, 2019


Courtney Gould Miller from MKJ Marketing stops by the show to discuss marketing in funeral service.

#79 Civil War Embalming with Craig Malone

October 22nd, 2019


Brian travels to a civil war reenactment to chat with Regimental Embalming Surgeon, Craig Malone about the history of embalming during the civil war.

#78 Prearranging Brian

October 18th, 2019


Last week, Ryan talked about his wishes for his funeral, today, Brian discusses what's in store for him after his death. 

#77 Jess Wakefield

October 15th, 2019


While attending DeathCon 2019 in Leavenworth, Washington, Ryan and Brian sit down with fellow funeral director Jess Wakefield.  Everyone's journey in funeral service is different and Jess was put to the test early.  …

#76 Prearranging Ryan

October 11th, 2019


In today's episode, Ryan prearranges his funeral.  His answers may surprise you.

#75 Round 2 with Henry Johnston

October 8th, 2019


In our second conversation with Henry Johnston, we chat about cemeteries, earning the CFSP designation, being a funeral director in Washington and lots of other topics. 

#74 Talk of a Lifetime Card Game

October 4th, 2019


Ryan and Brian use the "Talk of a Lifetime" card game to ask some personal question of each other with the hope of maybe learning a little more about their friendship.

#73 Kenya Update

September 27th, 2019


Dominick Astorino stops by the show to give an update on Operation Kenya, the mission to bring embalming education to the country of Kenya in Africa. Check it out.

#72 My Funeral Home Stories with Grant

September 20th, 2019


Grant from the hit podcast, "My Funeral Home Stories" stops by the show to talk shop and how he decided to put together his podcast. Check it out on iHeartRadio, iTunes, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts.

#71 Mortuary Magic Store with J. Mario Bernaudo

September 13th, 2019


The boys talk with J Mario Bernaudo, creator of the Mortuary Magic Store and many innovations to support his fellow embalmers.  J Mario takes us down the path from his first invention to his latest offering. Check it …

#70 Henry Johnston

September 6th, 2019


While visiting the state of Washington, Ryan and Brian seek out fellow embalmer and funeral director, Henry Johnston to discuss his career.

#69 National Grief Awareness Day with Kayla Hall

August 30th, 2019


For National Grief Awareness Day, Ryan and Brian chat with counselor Kayla Hall from Torchlight Counseling Services.

#68 Herland Forest with Walt Patrick

August 28th, 2019


Will your body serve a purpose after death? Does human composting have to happen in an industrial setting? Ryan and Brian chat with Walt Patrick from Herland Forest Cemetery about operating a cemetery in a …

#67 Garfield Refining with Melissa Polis

August 23rd, 2019


Ever wonder what happens with all the remaining metals after a cremation or alkaline hydrolysis? Melissa Polis from Garfield Refining talks about an …

#66 DeathCon2019: LifeNet Health with Cameron Axelson

August 21st, 2019


At DeathCon2019 in Washington state, Ryan and Brian chat with Cameron Axelson from LifeNet Health about how they're saving lives with tissue recovery and transplantation. 

#65 Near The Exit with Lori Erickson

August 16th, 2019


New book alert! Westminster John Knox Press released this week the new book, Near The Exit: Travels With The Not-So-Grim Reaper by Lori Erickson. The author, Lori Erickson, stops by the show to chat about this exciting …

#64 DeathCon 2019 with Rob Goff, Executive Director of the Washington State Funeral Directors Association

August 14th, 2019


Kicking off DeathCon 2019 in Washington State, Ryan and Brian chat with Rob Goff, Executive Director of the Washington State Funeral Directors Association. 

#63 Speaking of the Dead with Chelsea Tolman

August 9th, 2019


Author of Speaking of the Dead, Chelsea Tolman stops by the podcast to chat with Brian about writing her book, blog and starting a trade service. …

#62 Embalmers Supply Company with Dana Goodell

August 2nd, 2019


Ryan and Brian chat with Dana Goodell from the Embalmers Supply Company about what is on the mind of today's embalmers.  From time delays, to methylene blue to hexyethylphenoform, this is one conversation you don't want …

#61 Viking Funerals with Mike Everest

July 26th, 2019


What's a Viking funeral? Not the Minnesota Vikings - the real Vikings.  In this episode Brian chats with Mike Everest from Portals to the Past.

#60 What's New With The Podcast

July 19th, 2019


Brian and Ryan chat about what's in store for the podcast, from YouTube to speaking engagements, the boys discuss everything that's happening. 

#59 Breaking News: Jedi Disposition Act & A Major Acquisition

July 13th, 2019


In an unscheduled breaking news episode, Brian's discusses the fate of Missouri's Jedi Disposition Act and a corporate partner and friend of the …

#58 Jedi Disposal Act

July 12th, 2019


Want to be cremated like Darth Vader? Soon this may be possible in Missouri.  How will this work? Will there be chaos? We discuss how this will probably work in practice and whether or not the sky will fall on funeral …

#57 Remembering Gettysburg

July 5th, 2019


In this episode of the podcast, Brian travels to Gettysburg, Pennsylvania to visit the cemetery and battlefield.  He chats with Greg Goodell, Curator of the Gettysburg Military Museum. 

#56 Thomas Lynch & The Essentials of Funeral Service

June 28th, 2019


In our second chat with Thomas Lynch, we discuss the essential elements of funeral service and other topics.  His books, The Undertaking, The Good Funeral, Bodies In Motion and At Rest and Whence and Whither are all …

#55 Pride Month & Funeral Service

June 21st, 2019


Ryan and Brian talk about Pride Month and the hurdles funeral directors face while serving our brothers and sisters in the LGBTQ community. 

#54 Best Obituary Ever?

June 14th, 2019


Brian and Ryan discuss everything about obituaries.

#53 Kari Northey

June 7th, 2019


We travel to Kalamazoo, Michigan to chat with Kari Northey.  Kari has been educating consumers on YouTube for over two years.  With over 200 videos, she has reached over 4.1 million views.  

#52 Update: Operation Kenya

June 1st, 2019


In this episode we give an update on our fundraiser for Operation Kenya.

#51 Frank Downing & Funeral Directors Life

May 31st, 2019


Preplanning, prefunding, prearranging - whatever you call it, that's what we are talking about in this episode with Frank Downing, funeral director and director for sales development in Indiana for Funeral Directors …

#50 John Henderson

May 24th, 2019


In episode number 50 we chat with John Henderson, fellow funeral director, embalmer and mentor to Ryan.

#49 Balancing Life as a Parent and Funeral Director

May 17th, 2019


Brian and Ryan discuss the struggles of balancing work life and life as a parent.

#48 Wrapping Up 139th IFDA Convention

May 16th, 2019


Brian and Ryan grab a quick chat at the close of the 139th Indiana Funeral Directors Convention.

#47 IFDA 139th Convention and Whole Body Donation

May 15th, 2019


We chat with Kelsey from the Indiana University School of Medicine about whole body donation- how it works and how funeral directors can be involved. 

#46 IFDA 139th Convention with

May 14th, 2019

10:22 helps funeral directors keep in touch with their families months after services are complete.  Listen how can make this easier than you think. 

#45 IFDA 139th Convention with CJ Boots

May 14th, 2019


Brian and Ryan talk caskets with Chris Boots, founder of CJ Boots Casket Company.

#44 IFDA 139th Convention with CRaKN

May 13th, 2019


Who loves paperwork?  We chat with Barbie from CRaKN to learn how a software company can help funeral directors save hours of paperwork per family and entire work weeks per year - just in paperwork.

#43 IFDA 139th Convention with C&J Financial

May 13th, 2019


Brian and Ryan discuss how funeral directors can find help with processing insurance claims with James and Jackie from C&J Financial, plus an exciting announcement about Operation Kenya.

#42 IFDA 139th Convention with Tyler Tutterow and Operation Kenya

May 12th, 2019


Thinking of buying a funeral home? We talk with Tyler Tutterow who purchased his funeral home at age 25.  Later in the episode we kickoff Operation Kenya-the fundraiser to bring embalming education to Kenya.

#41 IFDA 139th Convention and Bio-One

May 12th, 2019


We talk with Bio-One Fort Wayne about biohazard clean-up services-how it works and who can help.

#40 IFDA 139th Convention and Memoriams by Ancestry

May 11th, 2019


Funeral directors, do you ever have problems placing obituaries in newspapers?  In this episode Brian and Ryan are surprised to learn about an awesome new service from a company called Memoriams by Ancestry.  

#39 IFDA 139th Convention with Investors Heritage

May 11th, 2019


Recording from the floor of the Indiana Funeral Directors Association 139th Convention, Ryan and Brian chat with Garth and Jay from Investors Heritage Life Insurance Company.

#38 IFDA 139th Convention with Mark J. Lindquist

May 10th, 2019


Recording from the trade show floor, Brian and Ryan chat with actor, author, motivational speaker and seasoned National Anthem singer, Mark J. Lindquist.  You can find his book: Passion! 8 Steps to Reignite Yours, on …

#37 Thomas Lynch: Whence and Whither

May 3rd, 2019


We travel to northern Michigan to meet Thomas Lynch author of The Undertaking to discuss his new book, Whence and Whither: On Lives and Living.

#36 Funeral Directors and Tissue Donation: We Can Do Better

April 28th, 2019


Ryan and Brian discuss many of the frustrations they hear from funeral directors about organ and tissue donation. Many times funeral directors express themselves in unprofessional ways.  Although there are situations …

#35 Coasson and Ron Stoll

April 26th, 2019


Is a hearse a station wagon? Is a coasson a trailer? In this episode of the show, Brian chats with Ron Stoll, creator and CEO of Coasson Inc.  

#34 Speaking of the Dead by Chelsea Tolman

April 19th, 2019


In this episode of the podcast Brian goes solo to review the new book, Speaking of the Dead by Chelsea Tolman.

#33 Organ and Tissue Donation

April 16th, 2019


For National Donate Life Month, Ryan and Brian discuss the differences between organ and tissue donation.  To learn more or register as a donor visit:

#32 Exploring the Role of Clergy and Funeral Directors with Marty Ballard

April 12th, 2019


The guys sit down with Ryan's father, Marty Ballard, who is not only a funeral director but an ordained minister.

#31 Unscripted, Unedited, and Live.....

April 7th, 2019


In this special edition of the podcast, Ryan and Brian go on Facebook Live to discuss more of the positives of being a funeral director.  Here is the audio from that live podcast.

#30 So You Want To Be A Funeral Director?

April 5th, 2019


The guys discuss their recommendations for those looking at or those starting a career in funeral service.

#29 Pierce Chemical with David Hicks

March 29th, 2019


We talk shop with David Hicks, national sales manager with Pierce Chemical.  

#28 Thinking Differently with Aaron Scott

March 22nd, 2019


Many funeral directors fail to change because they fear the public will reject their change.  In reality, it is the funeral directors themselves that reject change.  We chat with Aaron Scott, a funeral director that …

#27 Lacy Robinson

March 21st, 2019


In this special edition of the podcast, Ryan and Brian chat with Lacy Robinson, director of member development at NFDA.  

#26 Too Expensive To Die?

March 15th, 2019


Is it too expensive to die?  We hear that sometimes.  Ryan and Brian go back down the rabbit hole to discuss a broad range of financial issues that …

#25 What Funeral Directors Disagree About

March 8th, 2019


Do funeral directors agree about everything? Heck no.  Ryan and Brian discuss some of the usual topics that can get heated between funeral directors..

#24 Take Two: Secrets A Funeral Director Won't Tell

March 2nd, 2019


Ryan and Brian finish their review of the Secrets that Funeral Directors Won't Tell.

#23 Live (Almost) From the Indiana Statehouse

February 28th, 2019


Ryan and Brian visit the Indiana Statehouse with the Indiana Funeral Directors Association to what's happening in Indiana government. 

#22 Secrets Your Funeral Director Won't Tell You

February 23rd, 2019


Are there secrets that your funeral director won't tell you?  The internet says there are.  Ryan and Brian review an article pulled from the internet …

#21 Talk of a Lifetime with Ted Waters

February 16th, 2019


In this episode we have the "Talk of a Lifetime" with Brian's father, Ted Waters.  Ted has been in funeral service since 1968, served as an embalmer in the Navy and has owned a funeral home since 1981.

#20 Dominick Astorino, CFSP, MBIE

February 9th, 2019


Ryan and Brian hit the road to bring Dominick Astorino, CFSP, MBIE to the podcast.  In downtown Detroit, we talk about the passion to learn, the role …

#19 Indiana Mid-Winter Conference

February 2nd, 2019


At the Indiana Mid-Winter Conference we chat with several different funeral directors about what's special to them.

#18 Express Funeral Funding

January 26th, 2019


We chat with Aaron Calloway and Andy Buckman from Express Funeral Funding on how their business can help funeral homes expedite life insurance claims.  

#17 Consumer Special: How to Choose a Funeral Home

January 19th, 2019


In this episode we give our opinions on the best ways to gather information about a funeral home and how to choose one that's right for you.

#16 Carrie Parsons

January 12th, 2019


Ryan and Brian sit down with embalmer, Carrie Parsons to discuss embalming, restorative art, women in funeral service and how we grow in this profession.

#15 Product Review

January 5th, 2019


In our first episode of 2019 we look back at all the products that we tried for the first time in 2018.

#14 Goodbye 2018

December 29th, 2018


Brian and Ryan revisit how the podcast came to be in 2018 and what we're looking forward to in 2019.

#13 Grief During the Holidays with Kayla Hall

December 22nd, 2018


In this episode we discuss grief and the holidays.  We chat with counselor Kayla Hall of Torchlight Counseling Service about how we can cope with our …

#12 How We've Grown

December 15th, 2018


Ryan and Brian chat about how they have grown as funeral directors since they became licensed.  

#11 Listener Q&A with Carrie Parsons

December 8th, 2018


Special guest Carrie Parsons helps Brian and Ryan answer questions from their listeners.

#10 Ron King

December 1st, 2018


Brian and Ryan chat with Ron King from Butler Coach Company.

#9 Thanksgiving Special

November 21st, 2018


Brian and Ryan give thanks for all the people that have helped them along the way and later, get very personal about their lives and loss.

#8 Vernie Fountain

November 17th, 2018


Brian and Ryan chat with embalmer, educator and mentor to many, Vernie Fountain.

#7 Jonathan Nicholls

November 11th, 2018


While in London, Brian sits down with the author of Cheerful Sacrifice, Jonathan Nicholls to discuss Veterans/Remembrance Day and why we honor our …

#6 Andy Clayton

November 1st, 2018


Ryan and Brian sit down with the Executive Director of the Indiana Funeral Directors Association, Andy Clayton.

#5 Logan McDonald

October 24th, 2018


The lads are interviewed by mortuary science student, Logan McDonald. Ryan uses the word "networking" too many times in one  sentence and tries to convince the world that Brian is angry.

#4 Book Review: Embalming and Renal Failure: A Silent Danger for Embalmers by Jzyk Ennis, Ph.D.

October 16th, 2018


In this episode we talk about Jzyk Ennis, Ph.D. new book, Embalming and Renal Failure: A Silent Danger For Embalmers.

Pick up the book here:

#3 Fountain National Academy

October 6th, 2018


Ryan & Brian discuss everything they learned at the International Embalming and Reconstructive Surgery Conference for Professional Embalmers at the Fountain National Academy.

#2 Nathan McCullough

October 1st, 2018


Ryan and Brian sit down with Nathan McCullough, licensed Indiana Funeral Director and Funeral Service Consultant with Matthews Aurora Funeral …

#1 The Kickoff Episode

September 26th, 2018


Indiana Funeral Directors Ryan Ballard and Brian Waters introduce their new podcast.  

Get ready! Undertaking: The Podcast: Coming Soon!

September 19th, 2018


Indiana Funeral Directors Brian and Ryan talk about all things funeral.

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Undertaking: The Podcast: Coming Soon!

September 19th, 2018


Get ready for Undertaking: The Podcast.  Indiana Funeral Directors, Ryan and Brian discuss all things funeral.

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