Two Writers Slinging Yang

108 EpisodesProduced by Jeff Pearlman

Jeff Pearlman's weekly in-depth, no-holds-barred conversation with a writer on writing. Available here and on iTunes

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MC White Owl: Rapper, DJ, hip-hop supernova

July 16th, 2019

46:09

On how one turns his words into hip-hop; on mixing and matching sounds; on what it is to stroll a Kentucky stage naked while holding a stuffed penis; …

Tim Layden: Sports Illustrated senior writer

July 9th, 2019

1:02:20

On leaving the magazine after 25 years; on interviewing people as they face death; on the gun store hostilities of a late Yankee relief pitcher; on the legacy of SI and learning how to write while working for America's …

Levi Weaver: Texas Rangers beat writer for The Athletic

July 2nd, 2019

54:12

On his past career as a singer/songwriter, and the parallels between two genres; on the Texas Rangers' pitcher whose story needed to be told—via …

Chris Jones: Former Esquire writer, two-time National Magazine Award winner

June 25th, 2019

1:11:33

On the aging scribe; on writing 22,000 words and having it cut down; on adjusting to a Netflix writers' room and looking back at Roger Ebert and "The Things That Carried Him."

Erik Sherman: New York Times best-selling author; collaborator on autobiographies with Mookie Wilson, Art Shamsky; Steve Blass, Davey Johnson and Glenn Burke

June 18th, 2019

52:59

On approaching Glenn Burke as he was dying of AIDS and writing his autobiography; on a final interview with Bill Buckner and craziness with Len Dykstra.

Amy Chozick: New York Times writer at large, author of "Chasing Hillary"

June 11th, 2019

41:48

On covering Hillary Clinton's 2016 presidential run; on writing an amazing profile on the woman who (famously) chopped off her husband's penis; on rising from the University of Texas to a fantastic career in journalism.

Lindsay Gibbs: Think Progress sports reporter and Washington Mystics writer for The Athletic

June 4th, 2019

46:36

On what we can read into in The Athletic's new dedication to WNBA coverage; on women's college basketball programs hiring no male coaches; on …

Seth Wickersham: ESPN The Magazine Senior Writer

May 28th, 2019

45:25

On the process behind his classic 2014 profile of a dementia-afflicted Y.A. Tittle; on the torture and pain that comes with quality writing; on his Academy Award-worthy non-scenes with Kevin Costner in "Draft Day."

Darren Sands: BuzzFeed News Political Writer

May 21st, 2019

42:42

On covering the 2020 Democratic field; on driving through Manhattan with Mayor Pete; on whether a writer can cover politics without having an opinion …

Rebeccah Glaser: Editor in chief, The Panther—Chapman University's student newspaper

May 14th, 2019

43:52

On the highs and lows of college journalism; on whether to print or not to print; on what journalism programs need to be offering students in 2019.

Bill Pennington: New York Times sports writer and author of "Chumps to Champs: How Worst Teams in Yankees History Led to the '90s Dynasty."

May 7th, 2019

39:08

On deep diving into the crappy, pre-glorious Yankee years of Brien Taylor and Mel Hall and Andy Hawkins; on when to knock on a subject's door, and whether five phone calls are too many; on seeking out jacket blurbs and …

The John Rocker Experience: The 100th Episode of Two Writers Slinging Yang travels 20 years back in time, when I was young and dumb and driving around Georgia with John Rocker.

April 30th, 2019

46:58

The absolute craziest journalistic experience of my lifetime. On Dec. 27, 1999, Sports Illustrated published "At Full Blast," my profile of …

Georgi Boorman: Senior contributor, The Federalist

April 23rd, 2019

46:07

On the potential ugliness of social media interactions gone wrong; on writing about QAnon and the threats that followed; on political writing in the …

Will Leitch: Deadspin founder, New York Magazine contributing editor, MLB national correspondent

April 16th, 2019

1:05:14

On talking golf with Eddie Van Halen; on why Deadspin exists alongside Slam Magazine and Bill Simmons in innovative sports lore; on TV fame …

Daynabelle Anderson: Author of the self-published, "Letters to My Son: A Mother's Journey Through Grief"

April 14th, 2019

25:59

This is a special episode of Two Writers Slinging Yang, in honor of the annual Los Angeles Times Festival of Books. I roamed the event (held on the campus of USC), seeking out interesting people. I found Daynabelle …

Grace Raynor: Clemson beat writer, The Athletic

April 9th, 2019

49:37

On covering the best college football team in America; on finding Trevor Lawrence's best friend at a small-town Burger King; on what one learned from …

Jeff Legwold: ESPN senior football writer

April 3rd, 2019

55:47

On how a blue-collar kid with no journalistic aspirations became one of America's great football writers; on covering athletes fairly, …

Dan Wetzel: Yahoo Sports national columnist (live from the campus of Ohio University)

March 26th, 2019

1:24:13

In the first-ever Two Writers Slinging Yang recorded before a live audience, we travel to Ohio University to discuss Tom Brady's sadness after a Super Bowl setback; ways to write about 9.11 in the immediate aftermath; …

Wayne Coffey: Legendary New York Daily News sports scribe and author of "They Said It Couldn't Be Done: The '69 Mets, New York City and the Most Astounding Season in Baseball History"

March 19th, 2019

35:06

On finding new material about a beloved championship team from 50 years ago; on ghost writing athlete autobiographies and bringing unique voices to Mariano Rivera, Carli Lloyd and R.A. Dickey; on discovering depth and …

Master Tesfatsion: Bleacher Report senior writer

March 12th, 2019

53:26

On profiling Adrian Peterson and dealing with the detractors; on making a brief time with Antonio Brown count; on wearing jerseys in Instagram posts; on understanding the plight of the young African-American athlete.

R. Eric Thomas: Playwright, Elle Magazine senior staff writer, “Eric Reads the News" daily columnist.

March 5th, 2019

40:27

On the absolute joy of a tiara atop the head of Cory Booker's 99-year-old grandmother; on directing your words toward humor and glee during the Trump …

Rob Williams: Comic Book writer of Judge Dredd, Suicide Squad, Amazing Spider-Man

February 26th, 2019

41:06

On conveying much in a very small space; in bringing life to characters who existed only in your head; in watching "Justice League" with myriad cringes and being blown off by Reggie Bush.

Tommy Tomlinson: Pulitzer finalist sports writer and author of "The Elephant in the Room"

February 19th, 2019

52:00

On staring into the mirror and describing exactly what one sees; on the painful beauty of a memoir about a lifetime of weight difficulties; on …

Susan Orlean: New York Times best-selling author of "The Library Book" and staff writer, The New Yorker

February 12th, 2019

49:30

On writing a book (and having it sell) on a relatively obscure library fire; on choosing just the right words to describe a moment; on why she never uses a recorder and rarely turns to direct quotations.

Nora Princiotti: New England Patriots writer for the Boston Globe

February 5th, 2019

45:26

On covering the (zzzzzz) sleep inducer that was Super Bowl LIII; On finding new turf with a team that's been covered ad nauseam; on an angry James Harrison and a giddy Patrick Chung; on writing about three Super Bowls …

Zach Berman, Eagles beat writer for the Philadelphia Inquirer/Daily News

January 29th, 2019

46:27

On what it is to cover the Super Bowl; on the heaven/hell that is Media Day; on whether it's possible to know Carson Wentz's true feelings; on existing as a fly on the wall (in an NFL locker room) alongside 500 other …

Stanley Herz: Author of "Conquering the Corporate Career" and my greatest writing role model

January 22nd, 2019

27:23

On self-publishing a book, inventing a publicist and moving a book to the prime store real estate; on why Walter was actually Waldorf; on how writing can make a reputation.

Alex Kennedy: NBA writer for HoopsHype

January 15th, 2019

41:02

On scoring his first NBA press credential at age 14; on the kindness of Steve Francis and the uniqueness of Kwame Brown; on whether to talk sexual …

Doug Donovan: Baltimore Sun investigative reporter

January 8th, 2019

45:30

On discovering the humanity behind America's opioid epidemic; on interviewing subjects in awkward, uncomfortable situations; on the time he demoted …

Jane Leavy: New York Times best-selling author of The Big Fella: Babe Ruth and the World He Created

January 1st, 2019

56:38

On delving deep into a subject who's been dead for decades; on how one decides on the next book topic; on why one would be insane enough to become a …

Kent Babb: Allen Iverson biographer and Washington Post scribe

December 24th, 2018

46:32

On his efforts to understand and humanize the former 76ers superstar; on writing a book via an unorthodox approach; on chronicling the post-NFL struggles of longtime Chiefs halfback Larry Johnson

Halle Roberts: Editor in chief, Har-Ber (High School) Herald

December 18th, 2018

33:51

On her newspaper's battle with the Springdale (Ark.) School District over a pulled article; on fighting for freedom of the press; on what a …

Marshall Ramsey: Clarion-Ledger editorial cartoonist and two-time Pulitzer finalist

December 11th, 2018

39:45

On a touching artistic farewell to George H. W. Bush; on how to speak via images; on having angry politicians come after you; on the impact of a …

Steve Buckley: Writer for The Athletic and author of the greatest magazine piece of all time

December 4th, 2018

49:18

On Stanley Teeven and writing about the legacy of a World War II victim he never knew; on whether an author should place himself in a narrative; on …

Les Carpenter: Washington Post Redskins beat writer

November 27th, 2018

44:52

On being thrown onto an NFL beat without much notice; on watching Alex Smith's leg being broken—then reacting as a writer; on whether players care whether a writer exists; on Major League Baseball presenting the Iran …

Kimberley A. Martin: Senior NFL writer for Yahoo Sports

November 20th, 2018

45:23

On transitioning from one dream journalism job to another dream journalism job to another dream journalism job; on avoiding cliches when cliches attack; on life inside the locker room.

Melissa Schuman: Former Dream singer, MELISSA EXPLAINS IT ALL blogger, sexual assault survivor

November 13th, 2018

53:09

On finding the courage and strength to come forward and blog about being raped; on the inevitable backlash of Internet trolls; on the liberation that …

Daniel Dale: Washington correspondent for the Toronto Star

November 5th, 2018

37:59

On Tweeting about every ... single ... thing Donald Trump says; on why presidents can lie and get away with it; on covering former Toronto Mayor Rob Ford, having him accuse you of being a stalking pedophile—then …

Ian O'Connor: ESPN senior writer, New York Times best-selling author of "Belichick."

October 30th, 2018

1:02:18

On the highs and lows and glory and humiliation of promoting a book; on writing about a man (Bill Belichick) who tells his peers not to speak with you; on competing with the killing of Osama bin Laden for TV time.

Elaina Plott: Staff writer, The Atlantic

October 23rd, 2018

42:48

On her riveting, detailed profile of Heidi Cruz, wife of Texas Senator Ted Cruz; on covering politics without slant or bias; on visiting an island …

Grant Wahl: Sports Illustrated senior writer

October 16th, 2018

1:20:25

On rising up from low-level fact checker to one of the world's elite soccer scribes; on having a gun held to his head in an unfamiliar nation; on the …

Gary Myers: Former Dallas Morning News, New York Daily News NFL writer

October 9th, 2018

58:00

On how to navigate the football locker room in an era of NFL media indifference; on the awfulness of Bill Belichick and the anger of Danny White and …

Tyler R. Tynes: SB Nation staff writer

October 2nd, 2018

55:32

On the writing and thinking behind "There Is No Escape from Politics"—one of my favorite pieces of 2017; on wasting away behind the desk at a fading …

Stephanie Apstein: Sports Illustrated staff writer

September 25th, 2018

40:33

On profiling Chris Davis, Baltimore's first baseman, as he struggles through one of the worst seasons in Major League history; on worrying/not worrying whether a subject is happy with your work; on lessons learned from …

Ellie Douglas: Horror writer

September 19th, 2018

25:56

Straight outta Auckland, New Zealand, the author of "Hounded,"
"Hounded 2," "Toxic Desire" and "Dead Wake" explains why severed heads and slashed necks and flesh-eating zombies bring her pen to life.

Jeff Pearlman: Talking USFL and "Football for a Buck"

September 4th, 2018

45:06

Catherine hosts the show as we talk about book writing; about the PR push and what it does to a writer; about Donald Trump and George Allen and bringing to life a long-ago league.

Mirin Fader: Bleacher Report writer-at-large

August 28th, 2018

51:11

On traveling to Lithuania to track the Ball Family—minus their cooperation; on finding a voice; on watching hair being braided and seeing bliss; on a meteoric rise in a tough business.

Michael J. Lewis: Longtime newspaper scribe who left the biz

August 21st, 2018

44:52

On why, after nearly two decades in newspaper and magazine, he left; on sharing a name with one of America's most-famous scribes; on being locked in a minor league stadium and covering a young Ryan Lochte.

Lesley Visser: Pioneering NFL journalist

August 14th, 2018

40:04

On becoming the first woman to ever cover an NFL team; on having athletes hit on her and present her with underwear; on Bert Jones and Chuck Fairbanks and Jim McMahon and the legend of the 1970s Boston Globe sports …

Dana O'Neil: The Athletic senior college basketball writer

August 7th, 2018

44:55

On the ways experience, savvy, empathy and patience merge to make great journalism; on John Thompson and Coach K and sitting in the bleachers alongside the men (even when people demand one move elsewhere); on whether a …

Chris Nashawaty: EW film critic

July 31st, 2018

50:13

On the genius of Caddyshack; on whether great movies and bad movies deserve equal consideration; on why crappy films make him angry.

Gary Smith: Legendary Sports Illustrated writer

July 24th, 2018

59:02

On the art and craft of the lengthy feature; on why he doesn't think of himself as a "sports journalist"; on Richie Parker and Radio and diving deep into a subject; on relying on a flip phone and going nowhere near …

Richard Sandomir: New York Times obituary writer

July 17th, 2018

45:46

On finding beauty and reason in writing about death; on bidding literary farewell to the daughter of a Nazi, a Yankees pitching coach and a woman who fought cancer courageously; on Stuart Scott's final days and delving …

Mike Vaccaro: New York Post sports columnist

July 10th, 2018

51:51

On his farewell ode to Yogi Berra; on never succumbing to writer's block on deadline; on his verbal smackdown of a former Mets GM; on his late …

Emily Bloch: South Florida Sun-Sentinel community reporter

July 3rd, 2018

44:41

On tracking down an escapee monkey; on 15 minutes on the phone with Paul Reiser; on covering the Parkland shooting tragedy; on having a newspaper …

Maurice Patton: Columbia (Tenn.) Daily Herald sports editor

June 26th, 2018

48:41

On the life of a small-town newspaper sports editor; on the college basketball coach who brought a gun to practice; on the sad decline of The …

Jonathan Martin: N.Y. Times national political correspondent

June 19th, 2018

43:52

On #fakenews and "failing New York Times" in the era of Trump; on chronicling John McCain's farewell; on the exciting slog of three presidential …

Mac Engel: Forth Worth Star-Telegram sports columnist

June 12th, 2018

46:51

On whether sports columnists have a place in 2018; on squaring off against an agitated Juan Gonzalez; on liberal writing in a conservative part of …

Lane DeGregory: Tampa Bay Times Pulitzer Prize winner

June 5th, 2018

41:53

On spending a night with Stormy Daniels at Thee Doll House in Tampa; on her remarkable piece about the trials, nightmares and slow growth of a feral …

Ken Rosenthal: Major League Baseball writer for The Athletic

May 29th, 2018

44:12

On making every story count; on covering Cal Ripken, Jr. and writing beautifully on the night he broke Lou Gehrig's Iron Man record; on staring down …

Candace Buckner: Washington Post Wizards beat writer

May 22nd, 2018

44:26

On making a good story great; on life inside an NBA locker room; on Monta Ellis and Lance Stephenson and John Wall and rooting for African-American tennis stars (criticism be damned)

A.J. Cassavell: San Diego Padres beat writer for MLB.com

May 15th, 2018

49:11

On covering 130 games (of oft-bad baseball) per year and still finding things to write about; on the awkwardness of the Major League clubhouse; on Kevin Quackenbush's beard and the Padres' need to return to …

Tommy Shaw: Styx singer/guitarist

May 7th, 2018

1:03:02

On writing the perfect song; on feeling the pain from long-ago lyrics; on singing a tune for the 200,000th time and still bringing forth emotion and joy.

Steve Rushin: Sports Illustrated writer, author

May 1st, 2018

1:03:02

On having a Major League manager launch his pants your way; on making every word in an article count; on seven minutes with Dave Henderson and …

Jose de Jesus Ortiz: St Louis Post-Dispatch sports columnist

April 24th, 2018

41:02

On the advantages of speaking Spanish in a Major League clubhouse; on showing your face after infuriating an athlete; on opining on a sport you know little about; on profiling the widow of Darryl Kile shortly after her …

John Pavlovitz: Pastor and Popular Religion/Politics Blogger

April 17th, 2018

42:44

On expressing oneself in the age of Trump; on holding evangelicals accountable for hypocrisy; on the power of social media and a Tweet from Katy …

Dave Coverly: Creator of the single-panel comic, Speed Bump

April 10th, 2018

52:55

On writing funny with limited words and a tiny amount of space; on telling an entire story in a single box; on the, um, humor of Mike Huckabee and knowing when a joke doesn't work.

Jane McManus: Former ESPN football writer

April 3rd, 2018

44:10

On what it is to go through a public layoff as a journalist; on moving on from ESPN (and to a different country); on covering Rex Ryan and Mark Sanchez and Tim Tebow and the New York Jets; on writing about the tragic …

Elizabeth Weil: New York Times Magazine writer

March 27th, 2018

43:40

On pitching (and then being assigned) the story of a 70-year-old Polish kayaker who has crossed the Atlantic three times; on capturing a subject …

Nicole Auerbach: The Athletic senior writer

March 20th, 2018

52:39

On the bliss of covering March Madness; on finding nuggets of information inside a crowded locker room; on the tragic story of a Colorado shooting …

Alan Sepinwall: Uproxx television reviewer/critic

March 13th, 2018

41:15

On what makes great criticism v. meh criticism; on the beauty of Breaking Bad and the inconsistencies of Entourage; on why one man watches so much television—then writes about it with passion and grace.

David Maraniss: Biographer

March 6th, 2018

43:26

On reporting and writing definitively on the lives of Vince Lombardi, Barack Obama, Roberto Clemente, Bill Clinton; on finding nuggets of information that make your head explode; on the difference between dealing with …

Joel Sherman: New York Post Major League Baseball columnist

February 27th, 2018

53:53

On the tricks and keys to working a clubhouse like a veteran reporter; on the yin and yang of Albert Belle; on Spring Training highs and lows and lessons from the Mel Hall-and-Steve Sax Era Yankees

Keldy Ortiz: Crime reporter

February 20th, 2018

36:08

On reporting on the deaths of four young women in a devastating car accident; on knocking on strange doors and interviewing hostile witnesses; on the grittiness of life at a New York City tabloid.

Danny Wallace: Author

February 13th, 2018

47:27

On the rude hot dog waitress who inspired his new book, “F You Very Much”; on how an idea goes from brain to reality; on his work becoming a Jim Carrey movie.

Jenny Vrentas: SI, MMQB scribe

February 5th, 2018

40:16

On covering a Super Bowl and surviving; on developing rapport with athletes; on her weeklong drive through football in America; on going from biochem to writing.

Chris Palmer: Vet NBA writer

January 29th, 2018

40:16

On the magic and dread of Twitter; on covering the Ball family up close; on bias vs. fairness; on finding the mother of Chris (Birdman) Andersen and admiring her tattooed eyebrows.

Chris Ballard: SI hoops writer

January 22nd, 2018

40:19

On writing and reporting the tragic saga of Monty Williams; on serving as a narrator for Jamal Crawford’s joyful ride; on forming bonds with subjects …

Drew Snyder: Minister

January 15th, 2018

38:04

On writing the perfect sermon; on researching spirituality before preaching spirituality; on the uplifting words of Footloose

Jon Wertheim: SI writer

January 8th, 2018

37:06

On the reporting and digging behind the Jerry Richardson/Carolina Panthers bombshell; on the Portland Jail Breakers; on bonding with sources and …

Tyler Kepner: NY Times writer

January 3rd, 2018

54:47

On covering Griffey and ARod; on the introduction of Aaron Boone and the departure of Evan Longoria; on precise writing and never wasting words.

Joel Anderson: ESPN writer

December 27th, 2017

47:43

On life at ESPN and BuzzFeed; On digging deep into the life of Earl Thomas when Earl Thomas is indifferent to the dig; on finding Michael Sam’s forgotten father; on knocking on strange doors and not knowing what awaits.

Chip Scoggins: Columnist

December 22nd, 2017

52:19

Minneapolis Star Tribune sports columnist on turning joy, anger, love, grief into a column; on writing about the bond between a girl with cancer and …

Rick Reilly: Former SI writer

December 19th, 2017

50:03

On golf with Donald Trump, social media wisdom from Mark Cuban, finding tragic beauty in the story of a racist Major League owner and truth to power …

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