Two Writers Slinging Yang

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Jeff Pearlman's weekly in-depth, no-holds-barred conversation with a writer on writing. Available here and on iTunes

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MC White Owl: Rapper, DJ, hip-hop supernova

July 16th, 2019


On how one turns his words into hip-hop; on mixing and matching sounds; on what it is to stroll a Kentucky stage naked while holding a stuffed penis; …

Tim Layden: Sports Illustrated senior writer

July 9th, 2019


On leaving the magazine after 25 years; on interviewing people as they face death; on the gun store hostilities of a late Yankee relief pitcher; on the legacy of SI and learning how to write while working for America's …

Levi Weaver: Texas Rangers beat writer for The Athletic

July 2nd, 2019


On his past career as a singer/songwriter, and the parallels between two genres; on the Texas Rangers' pitcher whose story needed to be told—via …

Chris Jones: Former Esquire writer, two-time National Magazine Award winner

June 25th, 2019


On the aging scribe; on writing 22,000 words and having it cut down; on adjusting to a Netflix writers' room and looking back at Roger Ebert and "The Things That Carried Him."

Erik Sherman: New York Times best-selling author; collaborator on autobiographies with Mookie Wilson, Art Shamsky; Steve Blass, Davey Johnson and Glenn Burke

June 18th, 2019


On approaching Glenn Burke as he was dying of AIDS and writing his autobiography; on a final interview with Bill Buckner and craziness with Len Dykstra.

Amy Chozick: New York Times writer at large, author of "Chasing Hillary"

June 11th, 2019


On covering Hillary Clinton's 2016 presidential run; on writing an amazing profile on the woman who (famously) chopped off her husband's penis; on rising from the University of Texas to a fantastic career in journalism.

Lindsay Gibbs: Think Progress sports reporter and Washington Mystics writer for The Athletic

June 4th, 2019


On what we can read into in The Athletic's new dedication to WNBA coverage; on women's college basketball programs hiring no male coaches; on …

Seth Wickersham: ESPN The Magazine Senior Writer

May 28th, 2019


On the process behind his classic 2014 profile of a dementia-afflicted Y.A. Tittle; on the torture and pain that comes with quality writing; on his Academy Award-worthy non-scenes with Kevin Costner in "Draft Day."

Darren Sands: BuzzFeed News Political Writer

May 21st, 2019


On covering the 2020 Democratic field; on driving through Manhattan with Mayor Pete; on whether a writer can cover politics without having an opinion …

Rebeccah Glaser: Editor in chief, The Panther—Chapman University's student newspaper

May 14th, 2019


On the highs and lows of college journalism; on whether to print or not to print; on what journalism programs need to be offering students in 2019.

Bill Pennington: New York Times sports writer and author of "Chumps to Champs: How Worst Teams in Yankees History Led to the '90s Dynasty."

May 7th, 2019


On deep diving into the crappy, pre-glorious Yankee years of Brien Taylor and Mel Hall and Andy Hawkins; on when to knock on a subject's door, and whether five phone calls are too many; on seeking out jacket blurbs and …

The John Rocker Experience: The 100th Episode of Two Writers Slinging Yang travels 20 years back in time, when I was young and dumb and driving around Georgia with John Rocker.

April 30th, 2019


The absolute craziest journalistic experience of my lifetime. On Dec. 27, 1999, Sports Illustrated published "At Full Blast," my profile of …

Georgi Boorman: Senior contributor, The Federalist

April 23rd, 2019


On the potential ugliness of social media interactions gone wrong; on writing about QAnon and the threats that followed; on political writing in the …

Will Leitch: Deadspin founder, New York Magazine contributing editor, MLB national correspondent

April 16th, 2019


On talking golf with Eddie Van Halen; on why Deadspin exists alongside Slam Magazine and Bill Simmons in innovative sports lore; on TV fame …

Daynabelle Anderson: Author of the self-published, "Letters to My Son: A Mother's Journey Through Grief"

April 14th, 2019


This is a special episode of Two Writers Slinging Yang, in honor of the annual Los Angeles Times Festival of Books. I roamed the event (held on the campus of USC), seeking out interesting people. I found Daynabelle …

Grace Raynor: Clemson beat writer, The Athletic

April 9th, 2019


On covering the best college football team in America; on finding Trevor Lawrence's best friend at a small-town Burger King; on what one learned from …

Jeff Legwold: ESPN senior football writer

April 3rd, 2019


On how a blue-collar kid with no journalistic aspirations became one of America's great football writers; on covering athletes fairly, …

Dan Wetzel: Yahoo Sports national columnist (live from the campus of Ohio University)

March 26th, 2019


In the first-ever Two Writers Slinging Yang recorded before a live audience, we travel to Ohio University to discuss Tom Brady's sadness after a Super Bowl setback; ways to write about 9.11 in the immediate aftermath; …

Wayne Coffey: Legendary New York Daily News sports scribe and author of "They Said It Couldn't Be Done: The '69 Mets, New York City and the Most Astounding Season in Baseball History"

March 19th, 2019


On finding new material about a beloved championship team from 50 years ago; on ghost writing athlete autobiographies and bringing unique voices to Mariano Rivera, Carli Lloyd and R.A. Dickey; on discovering depth and …

Master Tesfatsion: Bleacher Report senior writer

March 12th, 2019


On profiling Adrian Peterson and dealing with the detractors; on making a brief time with Antonio Brown count; on wearing jerseys in Instagram posts; on understanding the plight of the young African-American athlete.

R. Eric Thomas: Playwright, Elle Magazine senior staff writer, “Eric Reads the News" daily columnist.

March 5th, 2019


On the absolute joy of a tiara atop the head of Cory Booker's 99-year-old grandmother; on directing your words toward humor and glee during the Trump …

Rob Williams: Comic Book writer of Judge Dredd, Suicide Squad, Amazing Spider-Man

February 26th, 2019


On conveying much in a very small space; in bringing life to characters who existed only in your head; in watching "Justice League" with myriad cringes and being blown off by Reggie Bush.

Tommy Tomlinson: Pulitzer finalist sports writer and author of "The Elephant in the Room"

February 19th, 2019


On staring into the mirror and describing exactly what one sees; on the painful beauty of a memoir about a lifetime of weight difficulties; on …

Susan Orlean: New York Times best-selling author of "The Library Book" and staff writer, The New Yorker

February 12th, 2019


On writing a book (and having it sell) on a relatively obscure library fire; on choosing just the right words to describe a moment; on why she never uses a recorder and rarely turns to direct quotations.

Nora Princiotti: New England Patriots writer for the Boston Globe

February 5th, 2019


On covering the (zzzzzz) sleep inducer that was Super Bowl LIII; On finding new turf with a team that's been covered ad nauseam; on an angry James Harrison and a giddy Patrick Chung; on writing about three Super Bowls …

Zach Berman, Eagles beat writer for the Philadelphia Inquirer/Daily News

January 29th, 2019


On what it is to cover the Super Bowl; on the heaven/hell that is Media Day; on whether it's possible to know Carson Wentz's true feelings; on existing as a fly on the wall (in an NFL locker room) alongside 500 other …

Stanley Herz: Author of "Conquering the Corporate Career" and my greatest writing role model

January 22nd, 2019


On self-publishing a book, inventing a publicist and moving a book to the prime store real estate; on why Walter was actually Waldorf; on how writing can make a reputation.

Alex Kennedy: NBA writer for HoopsHype

January 15th, 2019


On scoring his first NBA press credential at age 14; on the kindness of Steve Francis and the uniqueness of Kwame Brown; on whether to talk sexual …

Doug Donovan: Baltimore Sun investigative reporter

January 8th, 2019


On discovering the humanity behind America's opioid epidemic; on interviewing subjects in awkward, uncomfortable situations; on the time he demoted …

Jane Leavy: New York Times best-selling author of The Big Fella: Babe Ruth and the World He Created

January 1st, 2019


On delving deep into a subject who's been dead for decades; on how one decides on the next book topic; on why one would be insane enough to become a …

Kent Babb: Allen Iverson biographer and Washington Post scribe

December 24th, 2018


On his efforts to understand and humanize the former 76ers superstar; on writing a book via an unorthodox approach; on chronicling the post-NFL struggles of longtime Chiefs halfback Larry Johnson

Halle Roberts: Editor in chief, Har-Ber (High School) Herald

December 18th, 2018


On her newspaper's battle with the Springdale (Ark.) School District over a pulled article; on fighting for freedom of the press; on what a …

Marshall Ramsey: Clarion-Ledger editorial cartoonist and two-time Pulitzer finalist

December 11th, 2018


On a touching artistic farewell to George H. W. Bush; on how to speak via images; on having angry politicians come after you; on the impact of a …

Steve Buckley: Writer for The Athletic and author of the greatest magazine piece of all time

December 4th, 2018


On Stanley Teeven and writing about the legacy of a World War II victim he never knew; on whether an author should place himself in a narrative; on …

Les Carpenter: Washington Post Redskins beat writer

November 27th, 2018


On being thrown onto an NFL beat without much notice; on watching Alex Smith's leg being broken—then reacting as a writer; on whether players care whether a writer exists; on Major League Baseball presenting the Iran …

Kimberley A. Martin: Senior NFL writer for Yahoo Sports

November 20th, 2018


On transitioning from one dream journalism job to another dream journalism job to another dream journalism job; on avoiding cliches when cliches attack; on life inside the locker room.

Melissa Schuman: Former Dream singer, MELISSA EXPLAINS IT ALL blogger, sexual assault survivor

November 13th, 2018


On finding the courage and strength to come forward and blog about being raped; on the inevitable backlash of Internet trolls; on the liberation that …

Daniel Dale: Washington correspondent for the Toronto Star

November 5th, 2018


On Tweeting about every ... single ... thing Donald Trump says; on why presidents can lie and get away with it; on covering former Toronto Mayor Rob Ford, having him accuse you of being a stalking pedophile—then …

Ian O'Connor: ESPN senior writer, New York Times best-selling author of "Belichick."

October 30th, 2018


On the highs and lows and glory and humiliation of promoting a book; on writing about a man (Bill Belichick) who tells his peers not to speak with you; on competing with the killing of Osama bin Laden for TV time.

Elaina Plott: Staff writer, The Atlantic

October 23rd, 2018


On her riveting, detailed profile of Heidi Cruz, wife of Texas Senator Ted Cruz; on covering politics without slant or bias; on visiting an island …

Grant Wahl: Sports Illustrated senior writer

October 16th, 2018


On rising up from low-level fact checker to one of the world's elite soccer scribes; on having a gun held to his head in an unfamiliar nation; on the …

Gary Myers: Former Dallas Morning News, New York Daily News NFL writer

October 9th, 2018


On how to navigate the football locker room in an era of NFL media indifference; on the awfulness of Bill Belichick and the anger of Danny White and …

Tyler R. Tynes: SB Nation staff writer

October 2nd, 2018


On the writing and thinking behind "There Is No Escape from Politics"—one of my favorite pieces of 2017; on wasting away behind the desk at a fading …

Stephanie Apstein: Sports Illustrated staff writer

September 25th, 2018


On profiling Chris Davis, Baltimore's first baseman, as he struggles through one of the worst seasons in Major League history; on worrying/not worrying whether a subject is happy with your work; on lessons learned from …

Ellie Douglas: Horror writer

September 19th, 2018


Straight outta Auckland, New Zealand, the author of "Hounded,"
"Hounded 2," "Toxic Desire" and "Dead Wake" explains why severed heads and slashed necks and flesh-eating zombies bring her pen to life.

Jeff Pearlman: Talking USFL and "Football for a Buck"

September 4th, 2018


Catherine hosts the show as we talk about book writing; about the PR push and what it does to a writer; about Donald Trump and George Allen and bringing to life a long-ago league.

Mirin Fader: Bleacher Report writer-at-large

August 28th, 2018


On traveling to Lithuania to track the Ball Family—minus their cooperation; on finding a voice; on watching hair being braided and seeing bliss; on a meteoric rise in a tough business.

Michael J. Lewis: Longtime newspaper scribe who left the biz

August 21st, 2018


On why, after nearly two decades in newspaper and magazine, he left; on sharing a name with one of America's most-famous scribes; on being locked in a minor league stadium and covering a young Ryan Lochte.

Lesley Visser: Pioneering NFL journalist

August 14th, 2018


On becoming the first woman to ever cover an NFL team; on having athletes hit on her and present her with underwear; on Bert Jones and Chuck Fairbanks and Jim McMahon and the legend of the 1970s Boston Globe sports …

Dana O'Neil: The Athletic senior college basketball writer

August 7th, 2018


On the ways experience, savvy, empathy and patience merge to make great journalism; on John Thompson and Coach K and sitting in the bleachers alongside the men (even when people demand one move elsewhere); on whether a …

Chris Nashawaty: EW film critic

July 31st, 2018


On the genius of Caddyshack; on whether great movies and bad movies deserve equal consideration; on why crappy films make him angry.

Gary Smith: Legendary Sports Illustrated writer

July 24th, 2018


On the art and craft of the lengthy feature; on why he doesn't think of himself as a "sports journalist"; on Richie Parker and Radio and diving deep into a subject; on relying on a flip phone and going nowhere near …

Richard Sandomir: New York Times obituary writer

July 17th, 2018


On finding beauty and reason in writing about death; on bidding literary farewell to the daughter of a Nazi, a Yankees pitching coach and a woman who fought cancer courageously; on Stuart Scott's final days and delving …

Mike Vaccaro: New York Post sports columnist

July 10th, 2018


On his farewell ode to Yogi Berra; on never succumbing to writer's block on deadline; on his verbal smackdown of a former Mets GM; on his late …

Emily Bloch: South Florida Sun-Sentinel community reporter

July 3rd, 2018


On tracking down an escapee monkey; on 15 minutes on the phone with Paul Reiser; on covering the Parkland shooting tragedy; on having a newspaper …

Maurice Patton: Columbia (Tenn.) Daily Herald sports editor

June 26th, 2018


On the life of a small-town newspaper sports editor; on the college basketball coach who brought a gun to practice; on the sad decline of The …

Jonathan Martin: N.Y. Times national political correspondent

June 19th, 2018


On #fakenews and "failing New York Times" in the era of Trump; on chronicling John McCain's farewell; on the exciting slog of three presidential …

Mac Engel: Forth Worth Star-Telegram sports columnist

June 12th, 2018


On whether sports columnists have a place in 2018; on squaring off against an agitated Juan Gonzalez; on liberal writing in a conservative part of …

Lane DeGregory: Tampa Bay Times Pulitzer Prize winner

June 5th, 2018


On spending a night with Stormy Daniels at Thee Doll House in Tampa; on her remarkable piece about the trials, nightmares and slow growth of a feral …

Ken Rosenthal: Major League Baseball writer for The Athletic

May 29th, 2018


On making every story count; on covering Cal Ripken, Jr. and writing beautifully on the night he broke Lou Gehrig's Iron Man record; on staring down …

Candace Buckner: Washington Post Wizards beat writer

May 22nd, 2018


On making a good story great; on life inside an NBA locker room; on Monta Ellis and Lance Stephenson and John Wall and rooting for African-American tennis stars (criticism be damned)

A.J. Cassavell: San Diego Padres beat writer for

May 15th, 2018


On covering 130 games (of oft-bad baseball) per year and still finding things to write about; on the awkwardness of the Major League clubhouse; on Kevin Quackenbush's beard and the Padres' need to return to …

Tommy Shaw: Styx singer/guitarist

May 7th, 2018


On writing the perfect song; on feeling the pain from long-ago lyrics; on singing a tune for the 200,000th time and still bringing forth emotion and joy.

Steve Rushin: Sports Illustrated writer, author

May 1st, 2018


On having a Major League manager launch his pants your way; on making every word in an article count; on seven minutes with Dave Henderson and …

Jose de Jesus Ortiz: St Louis Post-Dispatch sports columnist

April 24th, 2018


On the advantages of speaking Spanish in a Major League clubhouse; on showing your face after infuriating an athlete; on opining on a sport you know little about; on profiling the widow of Darryl Kile shortly after her …

John Pavlovitz: Pastor and Popular Religion/Politics Blogger

April 17th, 2018


On expressing oneself in the age of Trump; on holding evangelicals accountable for hypocrisy; on the power of social media and a Tweet from Katy …

Dave Coverly: Creator of the single-panel comic, Speed Bump

April 10th, 2018


On writing funny with limited words and a tiny amount of space; on telling an entire story in a single box; on the, um, humor of Mike Huckabee and knowing when a joke doesn't work.

Jane McManus: Former ESPN football writer

April 3rd, 2018


On what it is to go through a public layoff as a journalist; on moving on from ESPN (and to a different country); on covering Rex Ryan and Mark Sanchez and Tim Tebow and the New York Jets; on writing about the tragic …

Elizabeth Weil: New York Times Magazine writer

March 27th, 2018


On pitching (and then being assigned) the story of a 70-year-old Polish kayaker who has crossed the Atlantic three times; on capturing a subject …

Nicole Auerbach: The Athletic senior writer

March 20th, 2018


On the bliss of covering March Madness; on finding nuggets of information inside a crowded locker room; on the tragic story of a Colorado shooting …

Alan Sepinwall: Uproxx television reviewer/critic

March 13th, 2018


On what makes great criticism v. meh criticism; on the beauty of Breaking Bad and the inconsistencies of Entourage; on why one man watches so much television—then writes about it with passion and grace.

David Maraniss: Biographer

March 6th, 2018


On reporting and writing definitively on the lives of Vince Lombardi, Barack Obama, Roberto Clemente, Bill Clinton; on finding nuggets of information that make your head explode; on the difference between dealing with …

Joel Sherman: New York Post Major League Baseball columnist

February 27th, 2018


On the tricks and keys to working a clubhouse like a veteran reporter; on the yin and yang of Albert Belle; on Spring Training highs and lows and lessons from the Mel Hall-and-Steve Sax Era Yankees

Keldy Ortiz: Crime reporter

February 20th, 2018


On reporting on the deaths of four young women in a devastating car accident; on knocking on strange doors and interviewing hostile witnesses; on the grittiness of life at a New York City tabloid.

Danny Wallace: Author

February 13th, 2018


On the rude hot dog waitress who inspired his new book, “F You Very Much”; on how an idea goes from brain to reality; on his work becoming a Jim Carrey movie.

Jenny Vrentas: SI, MMQB scribe

February 5th, 2018


On covering a Super Bowl and surviving; on developing rapport with athletes; on her weeklong drive through football in America; on going from biochem to writing.

Chris Palmer: Vet NBA writer

January 29th, 2018


On the magic and dread of Twitter; on covering the Ball family up close; on bias vs. fairness; on finding the mother of Chris (Birdman) Andersen and admiring her tattooed eyebrows.

Chris Ballard: SI hoops writer

January 22nd, 2018


On writing and reporting the tragic saga of Monty Williams; on serving as a narrator for Jamal Crawford’s joyful ride; on forming bonds with subjects …

Drew Snyder: Minister

January 15th, 2018


On writing the perfect sermon; on researching spirituality before preaching spirituality; on the uplifting words of Footloose

Jon Wertheim: SI writer

January 8th, 2018


On the reporting and digging behind the Jerry Richardson/Carolina Panthers bombshell; on the Portland Jail Breakers; on bonding with sources and …

Tyler Kepner: NY Times writer

January 3rd, 2018


On covering Griffey and ARod; on the introduction of Aaron Boone and the departure of Evan Longoria; on precise writing and never wasting words.

Joel Anderson: ESPN writer

December 27th, 2017


On life at ESPN and BuzzFeed; On digging deep into the life of Earl Thomas when Earl Thomas is indifferent to the dig; on finding Michael Sam’s forgotten father; on knocking on strange doors and not knowing what awaits.

Chip Scoggins: Columnist

December 22nd, 2017


Minneapolis Star Tribune sports columnist on turning joy, anger, love, grief into a column; on writing about the bond between a girl with cancer and …

Rick Reilly: Former SI writer

December 19th, 2017


On golf with Donald Trump, social media wisdom from Mark Cuban, finding tragic beauty in the story of a racist Major League owner and truth to power …

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