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Two Old Bitches: Stories from Women who Reimagine, Reinvent and Rebel

53 EpisodesProduced by Idelisse Malavé and Joanne SandlerWebsite

Love your bitchy self! Join us – Idelisse Malavé and Joanne Sandler the Two Old Bitches (from New York City) – as we celebrate kick-ass, unstoppable women from around the world. Women over 50 tell us how they re-imagine their lives, their bodies, their relationships and their creativity as they go t… read more

53 Episodes | 2016 - 2020

SO5 Episode 10: Ruth Strassberg – Stranger in a Strange Land

April 21st, 2020

48:54

There are so many colorful threads in the life story that Ruth Strassberg, 76, weaves for us in this episode of Two Old Bitches. Her journey to the …

SO5 Episode 09: Cynthia Madansky - Always Avant Garde

March 15th, 2020

37:45

Cynthia Madansky, 58, describes herself as a Jewish, queer filmmaker and artist. For TOB,  she embodies what it means to live a creative life. The …

SO5 Episode 08: What Else Is There but Pleasure?

February 14th, 2020

25:55

What gives you joy, a sense of profound pleasure? What tickles your fancy and makes you feel like you’re in the midst of a magic moment? The sources and varieties of pleasure for the women we interview never cease …

SO5 Episode 07: Chiemi Karasawa – Finding the Power in Sacred Reciprocity

December 31st, 2019

49:52

If you’ve seen Chiemi Karasawa’s award-winning film Elaine Stritch: Shoot Me,” you already know that Chiemi is a great storyteller. (If you haven’t, put it at the top of your streaming queue!) Chiemi's story is one …

SO5 Episode 06: Joanne’s Obsession - An Unforgettable Story of Sexual Harassment at the United Nations

December 17th, 2019

28:21

TOB listeners probably know that co-host Joanne Sandler worked at the United Nations for nearly 20 years. One of the many UN stories that fascinated her was a famous sexual harassment case.: Catherine Claxton was a …

S05 Episode 05: Julie Cajune – The Sum of Her Stories

December 2nd, 2019

37:22
"Stories are the way that we make meaning. And so they’re the primary vehicle for all human beings to make meaning of their life and to find their place and relationship with others. All of that is informed through …

SO5 Episode 04: Lucero Gonzalez – La Feminista Que Si Pudo (Version en español)

November 17th, 2019

53:22

“La única forma que tienes es transitar de tus sueños a tus deseos a la realidad.”   En este, el primer episodio de Two Old Bitches en español, …

SO5 Episode 04: Lucero Gonzalez – The Feminist Who Could (English version)

November 17th, 2019

45:01

"Moving from dream to desire to reality."

That describes the life of our magical friend, activist and photographer, Lucero Gonzalez. At 72, Lucero's feminism, her love of freedom and pleasure, her artistry, her Oaxacan …

SO5 Episode 03: Tish and Snooky Bellomo – Aging Disgracefully (Founders/owners of Manic Panic)

November 1st, 2019

42:28

Just because we’re older doesn’t mean we can’t have fun. WE always say we don’t want to age gracefully. We want to age disgracefully!

Sisters, punk …

SO5 Episode 02: Debbie Zimmerman - Film with Feminism

September 26th, 2019

29:16

“I couldn’t do film without feminism. And, I don’t think I want to do the feminism without the film.”

The world needs much more of Debbie Zimmerman, …

SO5 Episode 01: Sandra Guzman - At the Feet of Her Elders

September 9th, 2019

41:04

“I am 54. I don’t know what that means anymore. In my 20s and 30, when I thought about what 50 would feel like, I thought it was going to be old and …

S04 Episode 10: Mother’s More Than a Day

May 10th, 2019

30:54

Two of my heroes are mother and my grandmother…My mother taught me to be a woman. She was the strongest person I’ve ever met. And someday I’ll be the woman she wants me to be” - Tracy Hyter-Suffern

It’s complicated. …

SO4 Episode 09: Hrag Vartanian - Serious, Playful and Radical

April 19th, 2019

54:39

“I didn't want to brag but I did want to impress on you that I'm probably the biggest bitch you've ever encountered!” Who else but Hrag Vartanian …

SO4 Episode 08: Tracy Hyter-Suffern - Quite a Handful

March 22nd, 2019

42:08

“I’m either the world’s greatest storyteller or the world’s greatest secret keeper.”

At 60, Tracy Hyter-Suffern, can proudly say,  “I am coming into my own. I’m the woman my mother kept trying to raise.” That woman is a …

SO4 Episode 07: Sharon Louden - Radical Generosity

February 26th, 2019

48:38

“The only thing I could do in high school was make art,” Sharon Louden shares with us early in our conversation. She remembers that, in her …

SO4 Episode 06: Michaela Walsh - The Next Adventure

February 11th, 2019

35:12

Michaela Walsh - The Next Adventure "The one thing I wanted in life was not to be cynical when I get old and, I’ve discovered that by looking at …

SO4 Episode 05: Renata Joy - Pure Joy!

January 23rd, 2019

46:28

When I am open and accepting about all of the things about myself, things happen. …It wasn’t until I decided that one of the things that was to my advantage was my age that things took off." 

When Renata Joy was barely …

SO4 Episode 04: Bitches Know - How to Totally Avoid Jet-Lag Forever!

January 14th, 2019

4:25

More than 90% of travelers who cross time zones suffer from jet lag. Are you one of them? No more! Take 3 minutes of your time now to hear the Old Bitches reveal – for the first time ever -- the 5 steps to never …

SO4 Episode 03: (New Feature!) Bitches Know - Social Security

December 19th, 2018

4:28

Is it possible that you're losing thousands of dollars a year because you don't know the in's and out's of the U.S. Social Security system? Did you …

S04 Episode 02: No Regrets

December 9th, 2018

16:02

“I was a little nervous. Two Old Bitches? And I thought, 'Ou-oh. What if they’re cute. If they’re cute, I’m going to throw up.’” - Ashton Applewhite What do you think when you hear us say Two Old Bitches? Since we …

SO4 Episode 01: Geeta Misra - Dancing on the Edge

November 2nd, 2018

36:09

“Bold and brave. Dancing on the edge. Living each day as if it’s my first or last." At 55 years, Geeta has perfected the practice of joyful …

S03 Episode 10: Joy Kane - If They're Buying It, I'm Teaching It

July 31st, 2018

33:25

"I’m so happy. That’s what surprises me. I never thought I’d survive 50. I’ve been suicidal a lot of the time. I was so poor and such a mess. And my …

S03 Episode 09: Houry Geudelekian - The Original Houry!

June 18th, 2018

46:37

"I lived the first 15 years of our life without any reflection. No questioning about who am I? What do I want? That is my fight in life right now. Not just for myself but for every single girl out there. You cannot take …

S03 Episode 08: Hendrica Okondo - Born, Bred and Wed in Nairobi

May 15th, 2018

46:05

"I’m still the same person that was my mother's disciple. Women have to have their own resources. That’s what my mother was saying when she said, 'Your husband is your degree'. You need your own resources. I also need …

S03 Episode 07: Maya Wiley - The Possibilist

March 30th, 2018

47:34

"To me, it's not about age, it's not about race, it's not about ideology...I don't know that we have ever confronted such a dangerous time to …

S03 Episode 06: Emma & Idelisse - To A Beloved Buddha Mom

March 6th, 2018

38:05

"I’d be struggling to make the fabric do what I wanted and she’d say, ‘no, you have to listen to the fabric, the fabric will tell you where it wants to go.’"

Idelisse’s mom -- Emma Delfina Carattini Padro de Malavé – …

S03 Episode 05: Betsy ‘La Guapa’ Gude - Fearless Adventurer

February 5th, 2018

41:04

"It was just an ocean of stars. And you’re in the middle of night. And it’s pitch black. You can’t see your hand in front of you. And…you just sit there and wait for the light." Having a crazy dream is good. Making it …

S03 Episode 04: Luxor Tavella - Icon of West Broadway and Soho

December 29th, 2017

27:54

Citing her age at somewhere between 5 and 100 years old (decide for yourself, she suggests), Luxor Tavella revels in beauty, art and mystery. Forty …

S03 Episode 03: Janice Zarro Brodman - Sex Rules!

December 11th, 2017

45:41

Janice Zarro Brodman is a writer and political activist who busts norms and defies categories. That’s why she wrote her recently released book, “Sex …

S03 Episode 02: Martha Cortes - Lady, You Don’t Need Any Help!

November 7th, 2017

45:02

“If you’re in love with what you’re doing., what are you going to retire for? ...What are you going to do for the next 25 years?”

For 63-year old …

S03 Episode 01: Ashton Applewhite - This Chair Rocks!

October 11th, 2017

46:11

“Sexism on its own is so ugly. When you pair it with ageism, it is devastating.” “Why is our view of late life so unrelievedly grim when the lived reality is so different?” Writer and activist Ashton Applewhite, 65, …

S02 Episode 10: Freida Williams and Diane Scanlon - What’s This Song Good For?

September 4th, 2017

44:15

"When you’re in a band, there’s a dance you’re all doing. When it works it’s orgasmic. Everyone is listening, moving together. It’s perfect. " - Diane Scanlon  

"I’ve gone from religious to righteous, and now, to …

S02 Episode 09: Inca Alexandrina Mohamed - My Life Is My Art

July 19th, 2017

49:55

Race is for me the bottom line. When I’m seen, I’m seen as black more than a woman.  Maybe that’s a reality of being a black woman.

We met up with Inca Alexandrina Mohamed, 63, on her 'graduation' day, after a …

S02 Episode 08: Sondra Lee - As I Was Saying

June 20th, 2017

44:15

"I’m someone who’s very lucky. I didn’t come from anything fancy. I’ve always been determined to do whatever it was I should be doing. There’s …

S02 Episode 07: Malaga Baldi - No One is Watching

June 6th, 2017

38:24

"I’d like to write the great American novel, but I don’t think I’m the person to do that. I think I’m the person to find that.”

Whether you’re thinking about writing a book or just love reading them, you’ll want to …

S02 Episode 06: Kathy Brew - Unfurling Like A Spiral

May 4th, 2017

34:11

"Certainly I have felt many times that I’m hovering over an abyss. But you have to make that leap over to  get to the other side."

Kathy Brew, 64, is a self-defined, label-defying “hybrid:” a documentary filmmaker, …

S02 Episode 05: Socorro Reyes - Harvest Time

April 25th, 2017

35:53

"I am what I am. I have defined who I am. I no longer have to be careful with what I say because it might offend some organizational rules. So I’m …

S02 Episode 04: Jaune Evans - Weaving and Spinning

April 17th, 2017

44:32

"I think about that wonderful Adrienne Rich quote that the genius of a spider is that she weaves and spins at the same time. That for me is the …

S02 Episode 03: Ana Falu - I Am What I Am!

April 6th, 2017

34:32

"We were convinced of our ideas. That gave us the power to confront the tragic situation of the dictatorships. The truth is that we were ready to die for what we believe."

Ana Falu, 69, is a brilliant Argentinian …

S02 Episode 02: Aruna Rao - Feeling Good

March 17th, 2017

40:53

Aruna Rao, 61, is co-founder and Executive Director of Gender at Work, a global network of people dedicated to building cultures of equality. She …

S02 Episode 01: Leah Wise – The Perfect Balance

March 10th, 2017

32:05
"Having been raised and trained as a historian...I already had the notion of generations and the responsibility of each generation to carry people forward in the time you’ve had. It wasn’t that hard for me to say that …

S01 Episode 10: Dodo Berk - Age Is A Number, and Mine is Unlisted

March 2nd, 2017

37:42

My husband, when I married him, was a very shy man. He always got third billing. He would always say, “Dodo, you have the talent of an amateur and …

S01 Episode 09: Radhika Balakrishnan - I Want To Know What They Know

February 22nd, 2017

40:09

We joined Radhika Balakrishnan, 58, for a conversation about politics, economics and bitchcraft right before Christmas. Radhika is an activist, a …

S01 Episode 08: Alta Starr - Everything Is Already All Right

February 16th, 2017

48:14

“There is so much toxicity in ‘bitch’ --all the misogyny, all the hatred of women. And then to add ‘old' to it.  It’s everything terrifying and …

S01 Episode 07: Carol Jenkins - Serial Adjustments

February 1st, 2017

37:13

“The women in my family kept working, never saw any kind of deadline –‘Oh well, now I’ll retire and not do anything.’ I think that’s what I’ll do as well, and hope I’ll get a few more things done before it’s over.”

S01 Episode 06: Elaine Finsilver – The Cracked Plate

January 25th, 2017

33:55

“If you stay removed from life, you don’t get anything. If you get involved in life, you get everything back!”   At 85 1/2, Elaine Finsilver  is – …

S01 Episode 05: Noeleen Heyzer – Through the Eyes of Experience

January 17th, 2017

28:55

In these challenging times, we need wise women more than ever! For the last 40 years, Noeleen Heyzer, 68, has been a courageous and influential thinker and advocate for women’s rights, workers’ rights, climate justice …

S01 Episode 04: Jane Summer - Finding Her Story

January 3rd, 2017

19:26

Jane Summer, 62, describes herself as a writer and as "the most downwardly mobile person" she knows. Writing is her passion and affliction. At 55, …

S01 Episode 03: Katherine Acey - Will the Elders Please Stand?

December 20th, 2016

22:06

Katherine Acey, 65 years old, is a life-long radical social change activist who has stood up, with love, to fight intersecting injustices, whether …

S01 Episode 02: Sandra Garcia Betancourt – I Am the Point

December 13th, 2016

26:23

Sandra Garcia Betancourt, 60 years old, is a writer whose work appeared most recently in Abriendo Caminos, an anthology of Puerto Rican women writers …

S01 Episode 01: Mallika Dutt - The Bitch and the Bag Lady

November 30th, 2016

24:50

Mallika Dutt, 55 years old, is a leading innovator in human rights, multimedia, and culture change. She is the founder, president, and CEO of …

S01 Episode 00: Meet The Bitches!

October 13th, 2016

3:55

Meet Idelisse Malavé and Joanne Sandler - Two Old Bitches (from New York City) as they kick off their show, and talk about how you, too, can nurture your bitchy self. Also, there's wine.

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