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Turning to The Mystics with James Finley

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Turning to the Mystics is a podcast for people searching for something more meaningful, intimate and richly present in the divine gift of their lives. James Finley, clinical psychologist and Living School faculty, offers a modern take on the historical contemplative practices of Christian mystics li… read more


The Cloud of Unknowing: Listener Questions

In this episode, Jim and Kirsten answer questions that were submitted by the listeners during the airing of the 5th season around The Cloud of Unknowing.

Due to the length of this episode, we are providing key markers so you can move around the episode however it best applies to your path.


00:02:38 – Recapping The Cloud of Unknowing

00:05:19 – Gender and The Cloud of Unknowing

00:07:38 – Questions about The Path

00:11:55 – Using Words and Anchors in Meditation

00:14:09 – Encountering Anxiety During Meditation

00:22:23 – Working with Non-Attachment and Fear

00:27:30 – Meditation in Group Settings

00:30:32 – Difficult Emotions During Practice

00:33:51 – Accepting Yourself During Practice

00:36:14 – The Cloud and Working with Painful Memories

00:41:19 – Working with Pain and the Infinite

00:43:56 – Struggling to Connect with Unitive Consciousness

00:47:48 – Is Every Thing Eternal?

00:52:16 – Feeling Love During Contemplation

00:55:21 – A Voicemail from Miguel

01:01:14 – The Mystics and Centering Prayer

01:03:37 – Bringing Our Practice Into the World

01:06:40 – Loving God for God Alone

01:09:01 – Contemplative Transformation of Personality


  • Turning to the Mystics is a podcast by the Center for Action and Contemplation. To learn more about Jim, visit 
  • For the transcript for this podcast can be found here.
  • The book being used for this season can be found here.

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