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Transforming Trauma

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Transforming Trauma is a podcast about individuals and communities thriving after Complex Trauma. In a modern world beset by trauma and a legacy of suffering, conflict and disconnection, healing trauma can serve as a vehicle for personal and social transformation. Listeners will be introduced to th… read more

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The Complexities of Adoption with Kimberley Mead

September 21st, 2022


Psychotherapist Kimberley Mead is a NARM Therapist and founder of Resilience Austin. With a personal history that allows her a unique connection with clients, Kimberley uses a relational and somatic framework in working …

Strengthening Parent-Child Connections with Kirsten Timmer and Jens Heidegger

September 7th, 2022


CEO and TransParents co-founder Kirsten Timmer is a licensed psychologist and psychotherapist; Jens Heidegger, lead course facilitator, trainer, and …

The Joy of a Queer Identity with Isaac Samuelson

August 24th, 2022


Isaac Samuelson, LPC, is a Chicago-based NARM Therapist, primarily working with people who are discovering and maintaining their queer identity or struggling with it. Isaac identifies as queer themselves and sees their …

The Importance of Being Human within the Complexity of Identity and Self-Worth with Crystle Lampitt

August 10th, 2022


Crystle Lampitt, LMSW, is a former TV journalist and model. To her private practice, CL Wellness LLC, Crystal brings a unique perspective: from her …

NARM Inner Circle Presents: NARM & Intergenerational Love with Dr. Laurence Heller and Brad Kammer

August 3rd, 2022


In this special episode of Transforming Trauma, the NARM Training Institute presents a summertime gift to Transforming Trauma listeners: the webinar NARM and Intergenerational Love. The class provides a window into the …

Personality and the Alchemy of Therapeutic Change with Nancy McWilliams, PhD

July 27th, 2022


Nancy McWilliams, PhD, is a pioneer in the field of psychoanalytic/psychodynamics. Her genuine curiosity for trying to understand and help people has led to a rich, 50-year career.

In this conversation, Nancy shares …

BONUS: Sneak Peek of The Practical Guide for Healing Developmental Trauma with co-author Brad Kammer

July 18th, 2022


In this episode of Transforming Trauma, NARM Senior Faculty Brad Kammer shares an excerpt from the highly anticipated new book he co-authored with …

Understanding Historical Trauma with Ingrid Cockhren

July 13th, 2022


Ingrid Cockhren is the CEO of PACEs Connection, a social network that connects organizations, systems, and communities that implement trauma-informed …

The Polyvagal Theory and Developmental Trauma with Dr. Stephen Porges

June 29th, 2022


Dr. Laurence Heller and Dr. Stephen Porges engage in a stimulating conversation about safety cues, life-threat reactions, shame, and connection as …

BONUS: The Practical Guide for Healing Developmental Trauma with Authors Dr. Laurence Heller and Brad Kammer

June 22nd, 2022


“Our heartfelt desire is that the NeuroAffective Relational Model can support you and your clients and that this book will enhance the work you are all doing to heal our world.” - Laurence Heller and Brad Kammer, …

Creating Trauma-Informed Systems with Dr. Sandra Bloom

June 15th, 2022


Dr. Sandra Bloom is a Board-Certified psychiatrist, Associate Professor of Health Management and Policy at Drexel University, and the Founder of

Lostness, Trauma and Stories of Transformation with Bayo Akomolafe

June 1st, 2022

Trained in clinical psychology, Bayo Akomolafe, Ph.D. now works as an author, speaker, and professor. He is recognized worldwide for his thoughtful …

Professional Quality of Life for Trauma Therapists with Dr. Jennifer Vasquez

May 18th, 2022


Dr. Jena Vasquez, LCSW-S, NARM Therapist, SEP, Yoga Therapist and Instructor, professor and researcher recently completed her doctoral dissertation, Meaning Making: Understanding Professional Quality of Life for NARM …

Trauma Informed Transformational Medicine with Dr. Carrie Griffin

May 4th, 2022


Dr. Carrie Griffin is an osteopathic family medicine physician and addiction medicine specialist with advanced training in maternal child and reproductive health. Dr. Carrie has been practicing obstetrics and addiction …

Community-Based and Trauma-Informed Tribal Court with Judge Abby Abinati

April 20th, 2022


Judge Abby Abinati is the Chief Judge of the Yurok Tribe, which is the largest surviving Native American Tribe in the state of California. Judge Abby shares about what she and her people have learned directly about …

Trauma and Beyond with Drs. Joanne Barron and Lynne Friedman-Gell

April 6th, 2022

Drs. Joanne and Lynne describe how pervasive and toxic trauma can be, and some of the challenges that clients face in grappling with the impact of complex trauma. Yet, they also share that from their experience, healing …

Trauma-Informed Leadership Coaching With Prashant Goel

March 23rd, 2022

Prashant Goel works in service of healthy cultures and systems. He specializes in leadership development, drawing on both scientific research and …

Peace with Self, Peace with Food with Galina Denzel

March 9th, 2022


Galina Denzel is trained as a practitioner of NARM as well as Somatic Experiencing. She recently published a book, Peace with Self, Peace with Food. We'll hear about how Galina integrates trauma healing approaches into …

Supporting Connection, Stability and Recovery with Muhammad Kathrada

February 23rd, 2022


Muhammad (Moe) Kathrada is based in Malaysia and is an adolescent and family trauma therapist and also works in the field of addiction. He is …

Integrating the Spiritual and Psychological for Healing Complex Trauma with Igal Harmelin

February 9th, 2022


Igal Hamelin is a spiritual director, meditation teacher, and a NARM Master Practitioner. In addition to working one on one with people, he also offers meditative attunement workshops for therapists.

Brad Kammer talks …

Continuing the Conversation of Traumatic Narcissism and Recovery with Daniel Shaw

January 26th, 2022


We’ve invited Daniel Shaw back to have a conversation with our host, Emily, to further discuss his work and his most recent book, Traumatic Narcissism and Recovery: Leaving the Prison of Shame and Fear.

Daniel Shaw LCSW …

Healing from Traumatic Love with Dr. Nadine Macaluso

January 12th, 2022


Emily is joined by Dr. Nadine Macaluso. Dr. Nae is a licensed Marriage and Family therapist in Glen Cove, New York. She has a Ph.D. in counseling and somatic psychotherapy, specifically honoring the mind-body …

Supporting Connection, Capacity and Growth in the NARM Community with Marcia Black, Stefanie Klein, and Brad Kammer

January 1st, 2022


NARM Faculty Marcia Black, Stefanie Klein and Brad Kammer welcome our new Transforming Trauma host Emily Ruth, and together explore the challenges, …

End of Year NARM Reflections with Dr. Laurence Heller, Brad Kammer and Emily Ruth

December 29th, 2021


In this end of the year episode, we are joined by Brad Kammer, NARM Training Director and Senior Faculty, Dr. Laurence Heller, creator of the …

Trauma-Informed Education and Theatre with Dexter Ellis and Jacqueline Russell

December 15th, 2021


Jacqueline Russell is the Co-Founder and Artistic Director of Chicago Children’s Theatre, and founded The Chicago Children’s theatre seventeen years ago with the goal of creating the best quality children’s theatre. She …

Healing Trauma Through Curiosity and Compassion with Chaz Franke, LCSW

December 1st, 2021


Chaz Franke, LCSW, is the owner of Light Source, a private practice in Belleville, Illinois, is an adjunct professor in the MSW program at St. Louis University, and has over 15 years of experience working with trauma. …

Trauma Healing in the Black Community Through Play Therapy with Althea Simpson

November 17th, 2021


Althea Simpson, founder of Brighter Day Therapeutic Solutions, Unicorn Life Training and the Black Play Therapy Society, is a Licensed Clinical …

Supporting Women to Reconnect Back to Themselves and Their Bodies with Lara Eisenberg

November 3rd, 2021


Brad Kammer, Senior Faculty and Training Director of the NARM Training Institute, is joined by Lara Eisenberg. Lara is a bilingual licensed …

Men’s Groups, Toxic Masculinity and Developmental Trauma with Dr. Martin Lemon

October 20th, 2021


Brad Kammer talks with Dr. Martin Lemon, a clinical psychologist who has been practicing in Chicago's western suburbs for more than 25 years. Dr. …

Mind-Body Healing with Dr. Lissa Rankin in conversation with Dr. Laurence Heller

October 6th, 2021


This extraordinary conversation between mind-body physician and author Dr. Lissa Rankin, MD, and NARM creator Dr. Laurence Heller, PhD. centers around healing through the integration of western and non-western healing …

Healing Racial Trauma Through Embodiment with Becky Carter

September 22nd, 2021


Trauma therapist, somatic practitioner, and speaker, Becky Carter specializes in complex trauma (C-PTSD) with a focus on supporting transracial adoptees and their families. Becky talks about her work with somatic …

Trauma Healing and Spirituality with Dr. Julie Brown Yau

September 8th, 2021

Julie Brown Yau, Ph.D. specializes in developmental trauma, intergenerational trauma, and acute trauma, and has a unique perspective on integrating …

Safety and Presence in the Therapeutic Space with Bonnie Badenoch

August 25th, 2021


Bonnie Badenoch is a therapist, mentor, teacher, author, and has spent the last fifteen years integrating the discoveries of relational neuroscience into her therapy practice. She's the co-founder of the nonprofit …

Reconnection and Recovery with Ken Seeley

August 11th, 2021


Ken Seeley has been professionally and personally involved in recovery since his sobriety date of July 14th, 1989. His experience with recovery and …

Bringing Trauma Awareness to Coaching Volleyball with Kathy Nielson

July 27th, 2021


Kathy Nielson recently completed the Level 1 NARM Online Basics Training and is now a NARM-Informed Professional. Kathy shares about her multifaceted …

The Rhythm of Regulation: Exploring the Polyvagal Theory with Deb Dana

July 14th, 2021


Deb Dana, LCSW, is a founding member of the Polyvagal Institute and Coordinator of the Traumatic Stress Research Consortium at the Kinsey Institute, …

NARM Inner Circle Presents: Working with Anxiety, Anger and Rage with Dr. Laurence Heller and Brad Kammer

July 7th, 2021


The NARM Training Institute presents a summertime gift to Transforming Trauma listeners: a special topic webinar from the NARM Inner Circle online program. This webinar provides a window into the Inner Circle learning …

Trauma-Informed Law and Storytelling with Marjorie Florestal

June 30th, 2021


Marjorie Florestal is a trauma-informed law professor, storyteller, and fiction writer who trained in the NeuroAffective Relational Model (NARM). Sarah and Marjorie discuss the integration of trauma, law, storytelling, …

The Connection Between Complex Trauma and Chronic Pain with Dave Berger

June 16th, 2021


Dave Berger, MFT, PT, LCMHC, MA, SEP is a somatic psychotherapist, physical therapist, bodyworker and educator. He owns and runs a training program for trauma practitioners called BASE: Relational Bodywork and Somatic …

Using NARM to Decrease the Stigma of Dissociative Identity Disorder with Erin Lewis

June 2nd, 2021


“I have recently started sharing my own personal journey with DID to fight stigma and to advocate that we deserve to be treated like people as well.” - Erin Lewis, NARM Therapist

Clinical Mental Health Counselor Erin …

Healing Complex Trauma Through Music with Nick Larson of Proxima Parada

May 26th, 2021


“Music definitely opened up my heart and I started to actually feel things. The next thing I know, I’m using music to make sense of my experience.” - Nick Larson

Sarah talks with musician Nick Larson, California-based …

The Brain and Body Budget with Neuroscientist Dr. Lisa Feldman Barrett

May 5th, 2021


“...think about what it means to be human, and what kind of a human you really want to be.” -- Dr. Lisa Feldman Barrett

Our host, Sarah, is joined by neuroscientist Dr. Lisa Feldman Barrett. Initially working as a …

ACEs, Developmental Trauma, and Chronic Illness with Veronique Mead

April 21st, 2021


“Once we understand [how adverse childhood experiences impact our development]… it removes blame and shame and judgment because it’s not something we’ve actually done.” - Veronique Mead

Our host Sarah Buino is joined by …

Sulha, Humanization and Trauma-Informed Social Activism with Adar Weinreb

April 7th, 2021


“If we want to be able to change the world, it comes down to humans changing themselves.” - Adar Weinreb

Host Sarah Buino interviews Adar Weinreb, a …

NARM, Cross-Cultural Healing and The Natural Self with Adam Tanous

March 24th, 2021


“To help people come back to their natural self; which means to be calm, to be connected to the heart, [and to have] good health.” - Adam Tanous

Brad Kammer, NARM Training Director, welcomes Adam Tanous, a therapist and …

NARM and Healing Complex Trauma within Native Communities with Trilby Kerrigan

March 10th, 2021


“Cultural traditions are on the forefront of wellness, for Native people — and for all people.” - Trilby Kerrigan

Trilby Kerrigan, a NARM-trained …

How NARM Supports Trauma-Informed Bodywork with Dr. Mark Olson, Ph.D.

February 24th, 2021


In this episode of Transforming Trauma, our host Sarah Buino interviews Mark Olson, Ph.D., the owner and director of the Pacific Center for Awareness …

The Spiritual Elements of Trauma Healing with Drs. Dick Schwartz and Laurence Heller

February 10th, 2021


“You don’t have to build up the muscle of compassion, because if you just get the constraints to your natural compassion to relax, then you have plenty of compassion.” - Dr. Dick Schwartz

We have another opportunity to …

Trauma Healing, Hope and Bringing NARM into Residential Treatment with Deirdre Stewart

January 27th, 2021


"This is what makes NARM different...than any other modality I've encountered, is that we're exploring or inquiring not to get anywhere, just for curiosity sake. And...that's one of the missing ingredients of healthy …

The Need for Trauma-Informed Care: a Conversation with Dr. Laurence Heller and Dr. Christina Bethell

January 13th, 2021


Host Sarah Buino facilitates an important discussion between NARM creator Dr. Laurence Heller and Dr. Christina Bethell, researcher, author, policy …

Celebrating the First Year of Transforming Trauma with Sarah Buino and Brad Kammer

December 23rd, 2020


“I remember asking my therapist, what does self-love even feel like? And I'd had fleeting moments of experiencing it. Now it just is. It's just …

NARM Inner Circle Presents: Working in the Present Moment with Dr. Laurence Heller and Brad Kammer

December 18th, 2020


An end-of-the-year gift to listeners from the NARM Training Institute! We are sharing a special topic webinar from the NARM Inner Circle online program.

This webinar provides a window into the Inner Circle learning …

Complex Trauma, Self-Sabotage, Diet Culture, and Eating Disorder Recovery with Iris McAlpin

December 9th, 2020


NARM Practitioner and coach Iris McAlpin specializes in eating disorder recovery, complex trauma, and self-sabotage. Iris also hosts a podcast called Pure Curiosity which seeks to facilitate nuanced conversations about …

A Mother’s Journey into Finding Effulgence through the NARM Process of Resolving Grief with Heidi Winn

November 25th, 2020


Heidi Winn is a Licensed Mental Health Counselor with a private practice in Fairfield, Iowa, who learned about NARM as she was grieving the loss of her teenage son, Finn, to suicide.

In sharing this deeply personal …

BONUS - Level 2 NARM Therapist Training Now Available Online

November 13th, 2020


Our need to understand and heal complex trauma has never been greater, and accessing the NARM Training Institute’s Level 2 NARM Therapist Training has never been easier!

In this bonus clip, Transforming Trauma host …

Traumatic Narcissism: Relational Systems of Subjugation with Daniel Shaw

November 11th, 2020


Our host Sarah Buino is joined by therapist, social worker, and author Daniel Shaw to discuss his seminal book Traumatic Narcissism: Relational Systems of Subjugation.

Daniel explores the theme of traumatic narcissism …

NARM and the Role of Consent in Trauma-Informed Yoga with Colleen Millen

October 28th, 2020


"Consent is where it’s at… How do I offer that? How do I ask for it? How does it inform who I am to myself in the world?” ~Colleen Millen

Our host …

Cultural Traumatization and Collective Awakening with Dr. Laurence Heller and Thomas Hübl

October 14th, 2020


“Our global future of healing... is in these kind of collaborative fields that we will bring these powers together and learn from each other -- help …

How NARM Supports Treating the Whole Person with Naturopath, Dr. Mazen Atassi

September 30th, 2020


“The relational dynamics that NARM is speaking to are so rooted in our biology and our relationships and our everything, our connection to the …

Dismantling Anti-Semitism and the Complex Trauma of Colonialism with Dani Ishai Behan

September 25th, 2020


“I think the only thing we can do is to keep pushing back against these narratives because they're not going to go away...We have to challenge them. We need to do so more visibly and more consistently and more …

Exploring Historical and Intergenerational Trauma in the Jewish Experience with Rabbi Lynn Feinberg

September 18th, 2020


“It's about really getting into that experience of compassion for myself, my people, for our journey, for what it means to adjust within… all those …

BONUS - Intergenerational Trauma and Decolonizing Jewish Identity with Brad Kammer

September 16th, 2020


“It's been really confusing. It's been painful. And trying to sort this all out for myself is my own work in… really helping me become a better …

Internal Family Systems (IFS) and NARM with Richard Schwartz and Laurence Heller

September 2nd, 2020


“We can safely say that that Self in its undamaged state is in everybody.” ~ Dr. Richard Schwartz, Founder of Internal Family Systems

“There's a part of us that always remains undamaged.” ~ Dr. Laurence Heller, Founder …

NARM and a Trauma-Informed, Anti-Oppressive, Relational Approach to Mental Wellness and Social Justice with Cassandra Walker

August 19th, 2020


“One of the things I really like about NARM is the fact that there's this massive focus on connection and interconnectedness as something that can be healthy...That actually recognizes the fact that we as humans... we …

Healing the Wounds of Complex Religious Trauma with Jenny Winkel

August 5th, 2020


“NARM is not a protocol, it's a relational model, and the reason why that's important to know is because humans are designed to heal in …

The Role of Healing Complex Trauma in Supporting Adolescents and Their Families with Leslie Filsinger

July 22nd, 2020


“So from that lens of looking at trauma as anything less than nurturing, we all have wounding and I think that actually creates the platform for understanding the kinds of work that NARM does.” ~Leslie Filsinger

Our …

Compassion Prison Project: Bringing Trauma-informed Care into the Prison System with Fritzi Horstman

July 8th, 2020


“When people start realizing they're traumatized, they forgive themselves. They need to start there. And that shame just goes away. That shame …

Strange Situation: A Journey into Understanding Attachment, Motherhood and Developmental Trauma with Bethany Saltman

June 24th, 2020


“If we accept where we are, then we can actually manage our neurosis and we can be kinder, we can be more attuned, we can be better parents, and we can be better parents to ourselves.” ~Bethany Saltman

Our host Sarah …

Post-traumatic Growth in Communities of Color and NARM in the Classroom with Giancarlo Simpson

June 12th, 2020


“I really think it is important for us to really address our internal biases, call it out for what it is and ask yourself at that point, do we care to actually be better or do we care to stay the same?” ~Giancarlo …

Become a NARM-Informed Professional with Dr. Laurence Heller and Brad Kammer

June 9th, 2020


"In NARM, in the trainings, we have a real particular way of helping relieve that kind of [trauma]. First, bring it to the light. And then, help …

Addressing Systemic, Cultural, Racial, and Complex Trauma with Claude Cayemitte

June 5th, 2020


We’re grateful to have Claude Cayemitte back with us to reflect on the current events emerging from the demonstrations against ongoing systemic, …

Inspiring, Educating, and Supporting Trauma Therapists with Guy Macpherson from The Trauma Therapist Podcast

May 27th, 2020


"Just because someone's vulnerable doesn't mean they don't have the answer...It means being very present and being willing to be present and for it …

Spirituality in the Healing of Complex Trauma with Dr. Laurence Heller, Creator of NARM

May 20th, 2020


"I'm not asking anybody to believe anything. [The] very strong orientation in NARM is to really listen to yourself, listen to your own experience, listen to the deepest experience in you and from that place, I see it …

Special Announcement: New Online Training from the NARM Training Institute

May 14th, 2020


Thanks to all your interest in learning more about NARM, we are launching the Online NARM Basics Training: an Online Training for Transforming Trauma. This is a brand new Level 1 training in the NeuroAffective …

Complex Trauma Therapy for Parents of Children with Medically Complex Diagnoses with Caroline Clyborne

May 6th, 2020


"NARM is really great at honoring that basic human need of being able to protect yourself. Being able to protect yourself doesn’t mean that you have a magic wand and you can make the world a safe place. It’s being able …

BONUS - Connection, Community and Transformation During Crisis with NARM Faculty Brad Kammer, Stefanie Klein and Marcia Black

April 29th, 2020


The global COVID-19 pandemic poses unprecedented challenges for us all. How are therapists supporting their clients in crisis? And what about the therapists themselves? How can we stay emotionally healthy during this …

Soul Death and the Reclamation of the Soul - Healing Complex Trauma in Africa with Wangui Wanjiru

April 15th, 2020


“The one thing I love about NARM is that it's empowering. It helps you realize that there’s so much power in you. It returns your agency. The power of agency is that you let go of the helplessness.” -Wangui Wanjiru

Host …

Dr. Laurence Heller in Conversation with Dr. Gabor Maté on Complex Trauma and the Future of Trauma-Informed Care

April 1st, 2020


“First of all, I think all trauma is complex… Secondly, it's a question of what we define as trauma. For me, the essence of trauma is the disconnection from the self.” ~Dr. Gabor Maté

Our host Sarah Buino facilitates an …

How to Stay Emotionally Healthy During the COVID-19 Pandemic

March 24th, 2020


“It Is a very basic, ancient understanding that emotions come and they go. And if we don't push them away, we don't fight them and we don't attach to them in a strong way, they tend to move through much more quickly.” - …

The Blind Spots of Privilege and Complex Trauma in Marginalized Communities with Claude Cayemitte

March 18th, 2020


“I believe everyone has [complex trauma]. And we may know it logically, and tell ourselves ‘Oh, it’s okay,’ and all that. For me my journey has been to really deepen my own compassion for myself and recognize my own …

Bringing Complex Trauma Healing Into the Fraternity of First Responders With Gina Essex

March 4th, 2020


“Complex trauma shows up in so many different ways that are covert and overt. And, the more we can recognize it, the more we're able to approach it …

Self-reflective Practice, Personal Healing, and Social Change with Dr. Bianka Hardin

February 19th, 2020


“NARM really helped me through all of these protective strategies I had that were getting in the way of me showing up the way I authentically wanted to show up. So, I found something that has been personally …

Helping Adolescents and Teens Transition from Dependency to Agency with Mike Giresi

February 5th, 2020


“Learning how to support someone gain greater depth of experience and tolerance for their more primary emotions that feel scary to them, that …

Complex Trauma, Post-Traumatic Growth, and the NeuroAffective Relational Model with Brad Kammer

January 29th, 2020


In understanding how effective the NeuroAffective Relational Model® (NARM®) can be in support of Transforming Trauma, we must broaden the conversation around trauma to recognize Complex Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder …

Healing From Complex Trauma

January 22nd, 2020


In a modern world beset by trauma and a legacy of suffering, conflict and disconnection, healing trauma can serve as a vehicle for personal and social transformation. 

Brought to you by The NARM Training Institute and …

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