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This Working Life

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Lisa Leong helps you navigate your way through the tough times, looking for the sunshine and the humanity in the world of work. From the quirky to the somewhat controversial, experts in the world of work and business share their ideas, experiments and fast fails, that you can apply to your o… read more

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Show me the money, but will it make me happy at work?

November 29th, 2020

25:17


As the saying goes “money can’t buy happiness”, but does getting paid more make us happier and more motivated at work? And if not, what does? And why is it still such a taboo topic? We also hear …

The rise of insecure work

November 22nd, 2020

25:00


In the last 20 years, the way we’re employed has evolved almost as quickly as our mobile phones. For a lot of us that means our …

Be the change you wish to see in the world of work

November 15th, 2020

25:34


Many of us dream about making big changes in the world, but so few do. So what does it take to be a changemaker?

Geoff Hucker’s …

Harnessing the power of atomic habits to break bad habits and build good ones

November 8th, 2020

25:16


Never underestimate the power of habits, especially the teeny, tiny ones we repeat every day, the ones author James Clear calls “atomic habits”. We discuss Clear’s ideas of how we can harness habits …

Harnessing humour as a superpower at work

November 1st, 2020

25:53


“A group of behavioural scientists walk into a bar…”  

Sounds like the start of a joke right - it’s not.

Those ten people were gathering to perform sketch comedy and two of them ended up researching …

Who can you trust at work and why is it so crucial in a pandemic?

October 25th, 2020

25:38


Trust is hard to gain but easy to lose. And it's crucial at work particularly in times of crisis like the current pandemic.

So …

The Bonus: Nailing a virtual job interview

October 20th, 2020

9:38


What works and what doesn't in a virtual job interview? How should you prepare? And managers, how do you evaluate someone when …

Hacking happiness at work

October 18th, 2020

24:56


Is it too much to ask to be happy at work? Do you subscribe to the view that work mainly involves pain and suffering, that is why …

Your boss may be watching you, surveillance technology and WFH

October 11th, 2020

25:14


Like it or not, your employer has the right to track and measure just about everything you do in your work day. But should they, …

THE BONUS: our productivity review, hits and misses

October 7th, 2020

19:39


Our team has self-experimented with the productivity tips we've covered in 2020 and we reveal the hits and misses. Warning: there IS a mention of "sex" so if taking about procreation bothers you, may …

The rise of Big Brother at work

October 4th, 2020

25:14


How does your boss keep tabs on your work?
Before the pandemic, they probably popped their head over the partition or reviewed your KPIs over a coffee. But now, with more of us working from home, …

THE BONUS - corporate culture lessons from Uber on what not to do

September 30th, 2020

10:09


Uber's story is a cautionary tale in what NOT to do when creating corporate culture in a startup, according Super Pumped: The …

An angel on your shoulder, how finding the right mentor can change your career

September 27th, 2020

25:16


Finding yourself the right mentor is more critical than ever before to get through these tough and uncertain times at work. But how do you find the right mentoring relationship? And do men and women …

The Bonus: Givers and Takers

September 23rd, 2020

12:22


Are you a giver or a taker at work?

Unlocking the keys to deep listening at work

September 20th, 2020

25:36


How well do you listen to people at work? No, stop and think - how well do you really listen, not just wait for your turn to talk …

The Bonus: Life in the Woods

September 16th, 2020

8:40


To get through this second COVID lockdown, Lisa has gone deep with her night-time reading. In this episode she discusses Henry David Thoreau's Walden: or, Life in the Woods with Steph Clarke …

The art and science of brainstorming and why so many get it so wrong

September 13th, 2020

25:10


When your boss mentions "brainstorming" what do you picture - rapid, creative, ideas generation or death by Post-it Note?

Pick up …

The Bonus: learnings from Holocaust survivor Viktor Frankl

September 9th, 2020

6:26


We nerd out on non-fiction books that can make us better at work with Steph Clarke, facilitator and host of the podcast Steph’s Business Bookshelf. Steph's pick is Man’s Search for Meaning: The …

Avoiding the conclusion trap

September 6th, 2020

25:34


How deliberate are you about the way you make decisions at work? Bad decisions can result in wasted time, money and jobs. For …

All aboard! Starting and departing jobs remotely

August 30th, 2020

25:02


Virtual meetings are tough enough, but imagine starting a new job where you can’t meet your new team members face-to-face.

We hear some disaster stories but also how to best help workers start a new …

The four-day work week: Utopian ideal or secret weapon to survive the COVID-19 recession?

August 23rd, 2020

25:50


A trifecta of CEOs share why they introduced the four-day work week to their companies, how it has actually helped them navigate the economic downturn, and hard lessons learnt along the way.

GUESTS: …

Working from home due to COVID-19 — is the honeymoon over?

August 16th, 2020

25:13


WFH. We're about five months into the biggest global social experiment and for many of us one thing has become clear, we are in …

Marrying love and ambition, couples and careers

August 9th, 2020

25:11


What are the crucial conversations every couple must have for their marriage AND their career to survive?

Dual-career couples are …

Power up for work with deliberate rest

August 2nd, 2020

25:16


Are you good at resting?

Hint: effective rest does not involve blobbing in front of the tv and eating a block of chocolate. Sorry!

THE BONUS: what I wish I had known as a young doctor

July 28th, 2020

7:37


Oncologist and writer Dr Ranjana Srivastava shares what she wish she had known earlier about her career choice and the challenges …

Nir Eyal on taking control of technology to become "indistractible"

July 26th, 2020

25:31


Do you have trouble focussing on a work task because of distraction, especially by the endless pings and dings of your phone and computer? You are not alone.

We find out how to turn the secrets …

THE BONUS - Nir Eyal's tips to hack back your time and attention

July 21st, 2020

10:03


The Bonus is our little offering of hump-day help to get you through these trying times at work.

The power of everyday routines to boost your work life

July 19th, 2020

25:36


Routines and rituals boost productivity and wellbeing - but how?
We explore why we need routines and rituals, how to create your own and how they can improve your work ethic, output and satisfaction.

THE BONUS: staying sane in lockdown, again.

July 14th, 2020

6:55


Melbourne is again in lockdown - many businesses who just weeks ago opened their doors have been forced to close, again. First time around, this was tough, but what challenges will this second round …

Tips to supercharge your brain for work

July 12th, 2020

24:59


What to eat, how to move for peak brain power.

We dig into what science says about what to feed your brain and how to move your …

THE BONUS - coming back after burnout

July 7th, 2020

6:00


Many of us are doing it tough at work at the moment so let's take a minute to learn from those who have gone before. This week's show was all about burnout at work and we wanted you to hear a little …

'I was stuck in my bed – all I could do is cry.' Is COVID making you burn out at work?

July 5th, 2020

25:15


Is COVID-19 making you push yourself too far at work? Could you be at risk of burnout?

We explore what causes burnout, how to …

THE BONUS - Never work with children, animals, or friends of friends

June 30th, 2020

5:42


Hump day help for these stressful times in our new bonus episodes. In business you need to know when to hold 'em, know when to …

Failure is not a dirty word

June 28th, 2020

24:59


“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts,” according to Winston Churchill.

So when is a mistake a failure? How do we avoid failure becoming fatal and …

Know your rights and artfully negotiate to get the working life you want

June 21st, 2020

25:35


Which of the following is legal: Your boss can ask you to work more hours than usual to "earn" jobkeeper, your boss can force you …

An angel on your shoulder, how finding the right mentor can change your career

June 14th, 2020

25:14


Finding yourself the right mentor is more critical than ever before to get through these tough and uncertain times at work. But how do you find the right mentoring relationship? And do men and women …

We're Back! Returning to the workplace after COVID-19

June 7th, 2020

25:24


Is it safe to go back? How should it be managed? Will your skirt/pants still fit or is an emergency shopping trip on the cards?

As …

Pivoting in a pandemic, finding a job in an ultra-competitive market

May 31st, 2020

25:32


Stood down or sacked and needing to pivot to find a job? Which way? How?

Do you need to upskill, reskill, into which industry? …

Harnessing the power of atomic habits to break bad habits and build good ones

May 24th, 2020

25:13


Never underestimate the power of habits, especially the teeny, tiny ones we repeat every day, the ones author James Clear calls “atomic habits”. We discuss Clear’s ideas of how we can harness habits …

Emotional agility key in dealing with COVID-19

May 17th, 2020

25:15


Emotions at work - do you repress or ruminate? One thing that is being truly tested at the moment at work and in our personal …

Lisa Leong has 20 biohacks, here's another four

May 10th, 2020

25:34


We sort fact from wishful thinking when it comes to some of the biohacks Lisa feels is helping her do her best work while working …

If not THAT then WHO? The loss of self worth and identity when jobs evaporate

May 3rd, 2020

25:02


900,000 people read Alex Reiff's searingly honest account of how he felt when he lost his job. Much to his amazement the searingly honest LinkedIn post in which he shared his fear and uncertanties …

Can struggle be a gift?

April 26th, 2020

25:22


Identify the gifts in your struggles to help you lead through chaos: That's the message of Bobby Herrera, co-founder and CEO of …

When WFH collides with schooling at home the game has to change

April 19th, 2020

25:15


PPT (paid pajama time), WFH -  whatever you want to call it - for many of us, it’s the first time we’ve been forced to work outside the office environment. 

So, how might we best navigate remote work …

Unlocking the keys to deep listening

April 12th, 2020

25:15


How well do you listen to people at work? No, stop and think - how well do you really listen, not just wait for your turn to talk …

Bold leadership in the time of COVID-19

April 5th, 2020

25:33


This is make or break time for leaders. So how should our bosses be communicating with us and what should they be saying, and NOT …

What you're feeling amid the coronavirus crisis is probably grief

March 29th, 2020

25:32


By consciously naming and understanding our grief around the myriad losses the COVID-19 pandemic has brought with it, we can move …

How to co-work from home with your partner

March 22nd, 2020

25:12


Both divorces and births are predicted to rise this year thanks to coronavirus-induced isolation. Many people have been thrust …

Marrying love and ambition, couples and careers

March 15th, 2020

25:17


What are the crucial conversations every couple must have for their marriage AND their career to survive?

Dual-career couples are …

Coronavirus preppers at work

March 8th, 2020

25:06


We separate fact from fiction when it comes to prepping for the coronavirus at work. 

What can we learn from our northern neighbours about work

March 1st, 2020

25:19


Norway, Iceland and Germany have cracked the code in terms some of the world's biggest work problems, so what can we learn from …

Lunch with 100 strangers could change your life

February 23rd, 2020

25:20


Lunching with 100 strangers helped Kaley Chu find her voice.

Kaley works in finance and as a business development manager, dealing with people was a big part of her job. But Kaley was afraid of …

Culture Club: turning a toxic work culture around

February 16th, 2020

25:11


Can you measure and then fix workplace culture? This episode we speak with two experts who emphatically believe the answer is …

Work-life balance is dead, hello integration

February 9th, 2020

34:27


Before we kill it off work-life balance, what are the benefits and risks for employees and companies in this move to integration?

Recorded live at Pause Fest 2020, this panel brought hard-core …

The secret powers of the quiet leader

February 2nd, 2020

25:16


What do Barack Obama, Elon Musk and Hillary Clinton all have in common? They are all famous American leaders but they are also self-professed introverts.

While it may feel like it's the loudest voice …

Workplace motivation isn’t just about pizzas and beer (although that helps)

January 26th, 2020

25:15


How do you find your work mojo now that your holiday halo has started to dim?

January is the most popular month to give your job …

Do open plan offices encourage collaboration? Computer says “no”.

January 19th, 2020

25:05


Data showed a 70 per cent reduction in face-to face-interactions when two Fortune 500 companies move from private offices to open …

Embracing the courage to be disliked

January 14th, 2020

25:15


Japanese philosopher holds the keys to a happy work life. Or does he?

In the inaugural This Working Life Book Club we dissect a …

Lisa Leong uses 20 bio hacks

January 7th, 2020

25:15


Can you bio hack your way to performing better at work? Lisa Leong is giving it a red hot go.

Since a health scare two years ago …

What can Russia teach us about the art of negotiation

December 31st, 2019

25:16


Negotiation is something we all do every day, often without even realising it.

But there is a skill to it, and on this book club episode of This Working Life we explore what works, and doesn't work, …

The power of a good mentor

December 24th, 2019

25:17


The right mentor could make or break your career. So what makes a good one and how can you find them?

We speak to Madeleine …

Leading with words

December 17th, 2019

25:17


While many of us might fear public speaking even just at a work morning tea, stepping up to the job can make or break your …

Is this the end of work as we know it?

December 10th, 2019

25:16


The year is 2050- the world's population is nearing the 10 billion mark, artificial intelligence is integral to many of the jobs …

Taming the advice monster for effective coaching at work

December 3rd, 2019

24:54


Coaching is not just for leaders but we should all become "coach like", according to Michael Bungay Stanier. Michael knows a …

What can wild animals teach us about good leadership?

November 26th, 2019

25:10


What kind of leader are you? Or what kind of leader do you aspire to be?

Are you democratic, trusting or empathetic? Or a bit laissez faire?

On this episode of This Working Life we are communing with …

In search of meaningful work, and the end of the CV

November 19th, 2019

24:59


Do you find meaning in your work? How much is it linked to your identity?

According to the ABC's Australia Talks survey, …

Biohacking your way to your best work

November 12th, 2019

26:17


Cryotherapy, sleep apps and binaural beats, are just some or the more than 20 hacks Lisa Leong uses to perform her best at work. …

Unlimited paid leave, holacracies and other innovations with Amantha Imber

November 5th, 2019

25:19


"Innovate! Think creatively!" you're told. But how? Especially when you are in a large organisation with fairly rigid ways of …

How we all can get along, and other leadership lessons across generations

October 29th, 2019

25:14


What is your working style, and how much do you think your age has influenced it?

The leadership style you were exposed to in the formative years of your working life will influence the leader you …

Netflix staff find freedom in failure through the power of improv at work

October 22nd, 2019

25:37


We drop in on a improv session run by the master Dan Klein from Stanford University, to hear how 'applied improvisation' has …

Australia Talks about the migrant experience of work

October 15th, 2019

25:16


Have you ever had to move and find a new job?

What if that move was thousands of kilometres away from your home-town and friends, or even the country of your birth?

That’s the experience of the many …

Susan David on why you need emotional agility at work

October 8th, 2019

25:01


Emotions at work - do you repress or ruminate? Both could be dangerous for your career. Harvard Medical School psychologist Dr …

Caring for the mental health of small business owners

October 1st, 2019

25:21


When you run your own business the buck stops with you.

At times it can be a stressful, and isolating world- so what happens when …

Is the side hustle a gift or a curse?

September 24th, 2019

24:43


A side hustle can be a creative and satisfying outlet for many people who are looking for an escape from their nine to five job, and the gig economy can certainly provide flexibility and freedom for …

To Be or Not to B Corp

September 17th, 2019

25:04


Can profit and purpose mix successfully?

Certified B Corporations are businesses that meet high standards of verified social and …

Goodbye stress, hello chill- and being a funeral celebrant on the side

September 10th, 2019

25:16


"I used to think that anxiety and stress was actually good... to drive you to better performance," Morgan Ranieri says.

He is the CEO and one of the co-founders of Your Grocer, a food grocery …

Does science trump intuition in hiring the best person?

September 3rd, 2019

25:00


You can waste a lot of time and money recruiting the wrong person for the job. In fact, one in five external hires don't work out, at an estimated cost of TWO years' salary. So how can psychometric …

Navigating ethical conundrums in the workplace

August 27th, 2019

24:55


How do you define your own moral compass? What considerations do you ponder when faced with issues of right and wrong in your working life?

David Burfoot, a senior advisor at the Ethics Centre, and …

How do we tackle loneliness at work?

August 20th, 2019

25:13


Workplace loneliness is reaching epidemic proportions. It's as bad for your health as smoking 15 cigarettes a day. So what can be …

What can Russia teach us about the art of negotiation

August 13th, 2019

25:17


Negotiation is something we all do every day, often without even realising it.

But there is a skill to it, and on this book club episode of This Working Life we explore what works, and doesn't work, …

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