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Theory of Change podcast

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Lots of people want to change the world. But how does change happen? History is filled with stories of people and institutions that spent big to effect change but have little to show for it. By contrast, many societal developments have happened without forethought from anyone. And of course, change … read more


Theory of Change #033: Bruce Wilson on January 6th and right-wing anti-Americanism

It’s now been a full year since a violent mob stormed the U.S. Capitol with the intent of overthrowing the 2020 election so that then-president Donald Trump could illegally remain in office against the wishes of the American people.

During the intervening 12 months, while hundreds of people have been indicted and convicted for their role in the events, almost nothing has emerged from the law enforcement investigations as to what Trump and his inner circle of aids were doing on that tragic day. That’s because federal investigators can only reveal information connected to formal criminal indictments, they needed to form their own committee to investigate the matter fully and report to the public what happened.

What is very clear, however, is that the tens of thousands of people who came to Washington that day were doing it for something much more important to them than the grievances of a snobby New York investor. They were doing it because they thought God wanted them to overthrow what they saw as a corrupt and godless system that controls America.

Unfortunately, this information was out there well before the Capitol invasion, but it wasn’t reported much by the mainstream press, which spends most of its time obsessing over political gossip instead of actually understanding politics.

Joining the program to discuss the larger context behind the 1/6 attack is Bruce Wilson. He’s a journalist and researcher who has studied Christian nationalist movements for decades and tracked their ever-growing influence on Republican politics.

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