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The Same Drugs

84 EpisodesProduced by Meghan MurphyWebsite

Meghan Murphy and guests embrace authenticity, and have real, honest discussions about culture, politics, relationships, internet wars, the media social justice, cancel culture, and more. Conversations outside the algorithm.

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Danielle Crittenden Frum on feminism, marriage, and gender roles in the modern world

July 28th, 2021

1:23:58

Danielle Crittenden Frum is an author, journalist, and host of the Femsplainers podcast. She published, "What Our Mothers Didn't Tell Us: Why Happiness Eludes the Modern Woman" in 1999, which argues that modern feminism …

The Same Drugs: Trans activists want to force BC courts to adopt "preferred pronouns"

July 14th, 2021

1:04:35

In December, the Chief Justice of the B.C. Supreme Court and B.C. Provincial Court issued a practice directive advising lawyers and the public that …

The Same Drugs: Nancy Jo Sales on her life in the dating app inferno

July 8th, 2021

2:13:14

Nancy Jo Sales is a New York Times bestselling author and award-winning journalist who is known for covering youth culture, celebrity culture, and …

The Same Drugs: Jay Cameron on Bill C-10—the Liberal's attempt to regulate Canadians' online speech

June 14th, 2021

43:36

In this episode, Meghan Murphy speaks with Jay Cameron, Litigation Director at the Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms (JCCF) — a non-profit law firm dedicated to the education and defence of Canadians …

The Same Drugs: Ayaan Hirsi Ali on modern feminism and her new book, Prey

June 13th, 2021

1:12:22

In this episode, Meghan Murphy speaks with Ayaan Hirsi Ali. Born in Somalia, Ayaan was subjected to FGM (female genital mutilation) as a child, then …

The Same Drugs: Jonathan Kay on rape, due process, and the Steven Galloway case

May 18th, 2021

1:43:14

In 2015, acclaimed Canadian novelist and head of the University of British Columbia's the creative writing program, Steven Galloway, was accused of …

The Same Drugs: Lindsay Shepherd on diversity, exclusion, and the free speech crisis on campus

May 4th, 2021

55:24

Lindsay Shepherd rose to fame after being reprimanded for showing an interview with Jordan Peterson in a class she was TA'ing at Wilfrid Laurier University in 2017. Meghan Murphy speaks with Lindsay about her recently …

The Same Drugs: Konstantin Kisin on vaccine passports, the Covid response, fear, life, and death

April 16th, 2021

1:27:17

Konstantin Kisin is a comedian and co-host of TRIGGERnometry. In this episode, Meghan Murphy speaks with him about "vaccine passports," the Covid response, fear, humanity, comedy, and why people hate Jordan Peterson.  

The Same Drugs: Jodi Shaw is fighting a 'racially hostile' environment at Smith College

April 9th, 2021

1:17:33

Meghan Murphy speaks with Jodi Shaw, a staffer at Smith College in Northampton, Massachusetts, a divorced mother of two children, a lifelong liberal, …

The Same Drugs: Debunking myths about gender identity with Colin Wright

March 31st, 2021

1:34:14

How irrational is gender identity theory, really? How do arguments against binary sex stack up? In this episode, Meghan Murphy speaks with Colin …

The Same Drugs: Ian Leslie on how to disagree (except about The Beatles)

March 9th, 2021

1:25:20

Meghan Murphy speaks with Ian Leslie about Paul McCartney, why The Beatles are the greatest band of all time, and how we can all disagree better. His …

The Same Drugs: Rob Tracinski wants to replace 'left vs right' with 'liberal vs illiberal'

March 4th, 2021

1:14:34

Meghan Murphy speaks with Rob Tracinski about his article, "Canceled? Welcome to Our World," published at Persuasion, as well as about the fundamental differences between the left and right and how we can rise above …

The Same Drugs: Heather Heying on gender identity, Twitter, and the lab leak theory

February 24th, 2021

1:32:56

Heather Heying is an evolutionary biologist who was a professor Evergreen College until she and her husband, Bret Weinstein, were pushed to resign in …

The Same Drugs: Ani O'Brien on the problems with modern feminism

February 17th, 2021

1:38:53

Meghan Murphy speaks with Ani O'Brien about why feminists have failed on free speech, her experience of fighting for women's rights in a world that …

The Same Drugs: Do Trudeau's new travel restrictions violate the Charter?

February 2nd, 2021

1:00:07

On Friday, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced new travel restrictions in Canada, including forcing Canadians returning home to quarantine in a government-designated hotel, on their own dime, which Trudeau promises …

The Same Drugs: Helen Pluckrose on postmodernism, feminism, and Cynical Theories

January 30th, 2021

1:12:29

Meghan Murphy speaks with Helen Pluckrose, co-author of Cynical Theories and one of the masterminds behind the Grievance Studies hoax,  about postmodernism, feminism, what liberalism actually means, and why she manages …

The Same Drugs: Matt Taibbi wants a better media channel for a less polarized America

January 29th, 2021

1:22:17

Meghan Murphy speaks with Matt Taibbi — an American author, journalist, and podcaster — about Donald Trump, Joe Biden, the attack on the Capitol, …

The Same Drugs: Tom Slater on free speech, Big Tech, and Trump

January 15th, 2021

1:02:47

Meghan Murphy speaks with Tom Slater, deputy editor at spiked, about whether social media bans are an infringement on free speech, what precedent Donald Trump's ban sets, and why so many are failing to see the big …

The Same Drugs: Kat Rosenfield wants to help you stay sane in an insane world

January 6th, 2021

1:27:33

Meghan Murphy speaks with author and co-host of Feminine Chaos, Kat Rosenfield, about Bean Dad, Mimi Groves, cancel culture, feminism, consent, …

The Same Drugs: Peter Hitchens — 'I wish you an angry Christmas, not a merry one'

December 24th, 2020

1:10:26

Meghan Murphy speaks with Peter Hitchens about the Covid response, the fundamental problem with the left, why it's so hard to change one's mind, and …

The Same Drugs: Benjamin Boyce goes gentle into that far right

December 24th, 2020

1:52:34

Meghan Murphy and Benjamin Boyce chat about relationships, dating apps, feminism, casual sex, overthrowing "the system," and his being labelled "far right." This episode live streamed on YouTube on December 17, 2020.

The Same Drugs: Vincent Emanuele is on the left, despite the left

December 22nd, 2020

1:26:51

In this episode, Meghan Murphy speaks with Vincent Emanuele — a longtime leftist and community organizer — about community building, organizing, why the working class are abandoning the Democrats, organizing, why …

The Same Drugs: Marilyn Simon on weird bodies, bad women, and flawed feminism

December 17th, 2020

1:38:29

Meghan Murphy speaks with Marilyn Simon, a Shakespeare scholar and university instructor, about modern feminism, objectification, bodies, humourless …

The Same Drugs: Episode 70 — Bring back handy men

December 16th, 2020

1:46:36

This week on The Same Drugs' live stream, Laura McNally and Meghan  Murphy discuss the Harry Styles/Candace Owens kerfuffle, men in dresses,  the …

The Same Drugs: Episode 69 — Congratulations, it's a girl

December 6th, 2020

1:33:25

Meghan Murphy and Laura McNally discuss the Keira Bell ruling, Elliot (nee Ellen) Page, and Bill C-6. This episode originally aired live on YouTube …

The Same Drugs: Episode 68 — Thanksgiving treason

December 4th, 2020

1:30:20

Meghan Murphy and Laura McNally discuss the harms of Covid lockdowns, politicizing Thanksgiving, Jordan Peterson crybullies, and the hypocrisy of the …

The Same Drugs: Episode 67 — Burn the witch

November 25th, 2020

1:26:18

Meghan Murphy and Laura McNally talk Abigail Shriver, the ACLU, Suzanne Moore, Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie, and more!

This episode originally aired live on YouTube on November 18, 2020.

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The Same Drugs: Episode 66 — Democrat Denial

November 17th, 2020

1:32:50

This week, Meghan Murphy and Laura McNally talk Covid inconsistency, Democrat denial, and Bill C-6.

This episode originally aired live on YouTube on November 11, 2020

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The Same Drugs: Brittany Talissa King on BLM, polarization, and the power of conversation

November 17th, 2020

1:48:56

Brittany Talissa King is a freelance writer and journalist who founded a Black Lives Matter chapter in her hometown, Columbus, in 2016. I spoke with …

The Same Drugs: Episode 64 — TDS

November 9th, 2020

1:19:59

This week on the live stream, Laura McNally and Meghan Murphy talk about liberal meltdowns over the election, Trump Derangement Syndrome, and whether you can be feminist and vote for Trump.

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The Same Drugs: Mark Crispin Miller on propaganda, masks, and academic freedom

November 9th, 2020

1:36:10

Mark Crispin Miller is s a Professor of Media, Culture and Communication at New York University. He has published articles and essays in numerous …

The Same Drugs: Episode 62 — To the right, to the right

November 4th, 2020

1:07:57

Laura McNally and Meghan Murphy discuss the Kanye/Rogan interview, the presidential debate, Trump, Chelsea Handler, Big Tech and the Democrats.

This episode originally live streamed on YouTube on October 28, 2020.

The Same Drugs: Brendan O'Neill on Covid lockdowns, Trump, Big Tech, and Samuel Paty

November 4th, 2020

1:27:08

Brendan O'Neill is editor of Spiked and host of the Spiked podcast, The Brendan O’Neill Show,  as well as a writer for The Spectator, The Australian and The Big Issue. I talked to him about the harms of Covid lockdowns, …

The Same Drugs: Episode 60 — Zoom-a zoom zoom zoom

October 25th, 2020

1:22:23

Laura McNally and Meghan Murphy talk Covid policitization, the long term impacts of moving towards a virtual world, and Jeffrey Toobin's …

The Same Drugs: Episode 59 — Abigail Shrier on girls and the trans trend

October 20th, 2020

55:45

Abigail Shrier is a writer for the Wall Street Journal and the author of "Irreversible Damage: The Transgender Craze Seducing Our Daughters." Meghan Murphy spoke with her on October 15, 2020 about why so many girls are …

The Same Drugs: Episode 58 — We're speaking

October 20th, 2020

1:36:56

This week on The Same Drugs' live stream: Laura McNally and Meghan Murphy discuss Meghan's adventure in not having winter tires, the colour blind BC …

The Same Drugs: Episode 57 — Bret Weinstein explains everything

October 20th, 2020

1:36:02

Meghan Murphy's conversation with Bret Weinstein took place on September 17th. They discuss feminism, gender, Unity 2020, cancel culture, free …

The Same Drugs: Episode 56 — Democracy is for everyone

October 15th, 2020

1:08:29

Meghan Murphy and Laura McNally wonder if the "there's no going back to 'normal'" people are getting off on lockdown, discuss the appeal of Trump, and the failures of the Democrats to connect with working class people. …

The Same Drugs: Episode 55 — Will you shut up

October 8th, 2020

1:20:25

Meghan Murphy and Laura McNally discuss the Trump/Biden presidential debate. 

This episode originally live streamed on YouTube on September 30, 2020.

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The Same Drugs: Stuart Parker on identitarianism and the current state of the left

October 8th, 2020

1:22:56

Stuart Parker is a longtime socialist, was the leader of the British Columbia Green Party from 1993 to 2000, and was leader of the BC Ecosocialists …

The Same Drugs: Episode 53 — The Wokal Dilemma

September 30th, 2020

1:26:36

This week on The Same Drugs' weekly live stream: it's Libra season! Laura McNally turns either 23 or 45, plus: cancel culture comes for the BC …

The Same Drugs: Episode 52 — Long live JK Rowling, cuties

September 21st, 2020

1:36:56

This week on The Same Drugs' live stream: Laura McNally and Meghan Murphy talk #RIPJKRowling, Vancouver's response to the I ❤️ JK Rowling billboard, …

The Same Drugs: Episode 51 — Amy Hamm on I ❤️ JK Rowling

September 21st, 2020

1:06:23

Amy Hamm is a co-organizer of #GIDYVR, a series of events in Vancouver looking at gender identity, and the woman behind the "I ❤️ JK Rowling" …

The Same Drugs: Episode 50 — I am womxn, hear me roxr

September 14th, 2020

1:45:17

In this episode, Laura McNally and Meghan Murphy talk about Tedx London's move to "womxn," instead of "women," Jessica Krug's blackface, and why sex is apparently vague and something one can identify in or out of, but …

The Same Drugs: Episode 49 — Prostitution is for the people!

September 11th, 2020

1:43:09

On this episode of The Same Drugs: Bella and Kaili Thorne LARP as "sex workers," Jacob Blake, the ongoing unrest in America, entitled students, and more! 

This episode originally live streamed on YouTube on September 2, …

The Same Drugs: Dr James Cantor — when politics trump science

September 10th, 2020

1:24:09

After publishing a blog post titled, "When a TERF is not a TERF" in July, leading Canadian sex researcher Dr. James Cantor got into a heated exchange

The Same Drugs: Episode 47 — White silence is violence

September 6th, 2020

1:30:50

Is white silence violence? Meghan and Laura discuss the ongoing Black Lives Matter protests in the US and some of the connected mottos and messaging. …

The Same Drugs: Episode 46 — Is feminism cancelled?

August 29th, 2020

1:31:28

On this episode: Rebecca Solnit sold out, Trump uncancelled Susan B Anthony but the intersectionals recancelled her, and Laura McNally and Meghan …

The Same Drugs: Episode 45 — WAP

August 18th, 2020

1:45:13

Laura McNally and Meghan Murphy discuss WAP: feminist anthem, excessively vulgar, or great hip hop track? 

This episode live streamed on YouTube on …

The Same Drugs: James Lindsay still thinks 2+2=4

August 15th, 2020

1:41:33

James Lindsay is probably best known for the Grievance Studies hoax, wherein three scholars — James, Helen Pluckrose, and Peter Boghossian — wrote 20 …

The Same Drugs: Episode 43 — Wokefished

August 15th, 2020

1:26:13

This week, Laura McNally and Meghan Murphy talking wokefishing and whether 2+2 must always equal 4.

This episode live streamed on YouTube on August 5, 2020.

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The Same Drugs: Episode 42 — Challenge Accepted

August 7th, 2020

1:44:40

This week, Meghan Murphy and Laura McNally talk about The Babysitters' Club, the #womenempoweringwomen Instagram challenge, baby TikTok witches, Elon …

The Same Drugs: Jen Gerson holds the line

August 7th, 2020

1:03:17

Jen Gerson is a Canadian journalist, who has worked with the National Post, the Globe and Mail, Toronto Star, Maclean's, the CBC, and Walrus. But, after many years, she became fed up with the Canadian media landscape. …

The Same Drugs: Episode 40 — The Glory

July 27th, 2020

1:38:27

Laura McNally and Meghan Murphy talk Kanye (and Kanye's mental health), Covid, Kelowna, glory holes, and Naked Athena. This episode originally live …

The Same Drugs: Episode 39 — Free Britney!

July 23rd, 2020

1:37:15

This week, Laura and Meghan discuss Bari Weiss' resignation from the New York Times, CEOs getting bonuses for reaching "diversity goals," and Bumble reaching 100 million users. But most of all: FREE BRITNEY.

This …

The Same Drugs: Episode 38 — The power of speech compels you!

July 14th, 2020

1:39:51

This week, Laura McNally and Meghan Murphy discuss Mary Kay Letourneau, women who exploit men, the reaction to the Harper's free speech letter, Amy Cooper updates, cars vs video games, and more!

This episode originally …

The Same Drugs: Lisa Marchiano on new religions and activism

July 2nd, 2020

55:47

Meghan Murphy speaks with Lisa Marchiano, a Jungian analyst in private practice in Philadelphia and one of the hosts of the podcast This Jungian Life, about activism and movements as a new form of religion, as well as …

The Same Drugs: Episode 35 — Did Karlos ruin Karen?

June 30th, 2020

1:38:03

Karlos Dillard, revealed to be a grifter, may have finally pushed the Karen meme too far, revealing the destructiveness and false premise of of the trend. This week on The Same Drugs, Laura McNally and Meghan Murphy …

The Same Drugs: MK Fain on trashing and infighting in feminism

June 28th, 2020

1:12:37

Why does feminism seem hellbent on self-destruction these days? Well, it's nothing new... Jo Freeman wrote about trashing in the feminist movement …

The Same Drugs: So, you've been radicalized

June 23rd, 2020

1:28:19

This week, Laura McNally and Meghan Murphy discuss Brandy Jensen's Jezebel article about Vile Meghan, Gwen Benaway's bamboozling of CanLit, and CHAZ.

This episode live streamed on June 18, 2020 on YouTube.

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The Same Drugs: Jon Kay on Tom Cotton, Wendy Mesley, the CBC, and the disintegration of media

June 18th, 2020

1:26:53

Jonathan Kay is a journalist; the Canadian editor and podcast host for Quillette; a National Post columnist; and an author, whose forthcoming Fall …

The Same Drugs: Epsiode 31 — You're all fired

June 13th, 2020

1:35:13

This week, Meghan Murphy and Laura McNally talk about J.K. Rowling, Wendy Mesley, Kathleen Lowrey, the fact that "safetyism" and cancel  culture …

The Same Drugs: Zaid Jilani on race, riots, defunding the police, privilege theory, and Amy Cooper

June 10th, 2020

1:17:34

On Friday, June 5, I talked to journalist Zaid Jilani about the Black Lives Matter demonstrations, the impact of rioting, defunding the police, …

The Same Drugs: Episode 29 — White people are unbearable

June 8th, 2020

1:29:54

This week, Laura McNally and Meghan Murphy talk about how unbearable white people on the internet are right now; #BlackOutTuesday, virtue signalling …

The Same Drugs: Coleman Hughes on race, racism, police violence, and Black Lives Matter

June 4th, 2020

45:57

Coleman Hughes is a writer living in New York City who has contributed to Quillette, The Spectator, The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, and …

The Same Drugs: Episode 27 -- The Karen Wars Rage On

June 1st, 2020

1:22:10

In this week's episode, Meghan Murphy and Laura McNally wonder who is the real Karen of the Ramble park debacle: Amy Cooper or Christian Cooper? …

The Same Drugs: Episode 26 — Unmasking OnlyFans

May 30th, 2020

1:17:54

In this episode, Meghan Murphy and Laura McNally talk about wearing cloth masks — purposeful? Or virtue signalling? Also, "sex workers" are …

The Same Drugs: What if Alison Roman was right?

May 21st, 2020

1:37:29

Laura and Meghan are back with another live stream episode of The Same Drugs. This week, we talk about cancel culture and the Chrissy Teigen/Marie …

The Same Drugs: Episode 24 — Caren White, Anne Frank, and fake friends

May 14th, 2020

1:35:35

We're back for another #lockdownlivestream, though we're close to unlocking, so perhaps we're moving towards an unlocked live stream? Laura and …

The Same Drugs Interview: Jonathan Kay on COVID, the lockdowns, and how to get the perfect frosted tips

May 7th, 2020

1:47:46

Jonathan Kay is a longtime journalist, commentator, and editor. He is the Canadian editor and podcast host for Quillette, a National Post columnist, …

The Same Drugs: Episode 22 — #lockdownlivestream (social media sucks)

May 7th, 2020

1:43:14

On last week's episode of The Same Drugs' #lockdownlivestream, Laura and Meghan talk more about the "bat fried rice" t-shirt design and subsequent backlash against Meghan online, claims that she's "moving to the right," …

The Same Drugs Interview: Toby Young on free speech, no-platforming, and why social media censorship matters

May 3rd, 2020

40:14

Toby Young is the London associate editor of Quillette, associate editor of The Spectator, and the founder and General Secretary of the Free Speech Union

While I am positive there is much we disagree on, we do share …

The Same Drugs Interview: Nancy Jo Sales on the false promises and harms of dating apps

April 27th, 2020

2:07:40

Nancy Jo Sales is an award winning journalist, who has published work at Vanity Fair, The Guardian, New York Magazine, Harper's Bazaar, and more. She is the author of American Girls: Social Media and the Secret Lives of …

The Same Drugs: Episode 19 — Bat Fried Rice, Woke Sex, and Very Big Babies

April 25th, 2020

1:27:29

On this week's #lockdownlivestream, Meghan Murphy and Laura McNally talk China, the controversy around the "bat fried rice" t-shirt  design, why

The Same Drugs Interview: Posie Parker thinks positive

April 22nd, 2020

1:19:59

Kellie-Jay Keen-Minshull, aka Posie Parker, is a British women's rights campaigner and YouTuber.  I spoke with her on April 8, 2020 about feminism, …

The Same Drugs: Episode 17 — COVID cancellations

April 19th, 2020

1:16:04

Who's getting cancelled under Corona?! Charlotte (ne Charles) Clymer, corona cuddlers, lockdown protesters, and conspiracy theorists. Check this week's #lockdownlivestream. 

This episode originally aired live on YouTube

The Same Drugs Interview: Mike Nayna on grievance studies & the trouble with social justice activism

April 16th, 2020

1:26:26

Mike Nayna is a filmmaker living in Melbourne. His 2015 short, Digilante  (recently picked up by The Atlantic), took a critical look at viral cancel …

The Same Drugs: Episode 15 — Call me Karen

April 13th, 2020

1:23:09

In this week's installment of our weekly #lockdownlivestream, Meghan Murphy and Laura McNally cover Karen: is the meme sexist? Race/class commentary? Neither? Is it 'shaming' to suggest people get off the couch? Are …

The Same Drugs Interview: Brendan O'Neill on the COVID lockdowns

April 8th, 2020

1:06:03

Brendan O'Neill is editor of spiked and host of the spiked podcast, The Brendan O’Neill Show,  as well as a writer for The Spectator, The Australian and The Big Issue. He's taken many controversial positions in his …

The Same Drugs: Episode 12 — Tiger Queens

April 2nd, 2020

1:44:51

Jean and Karen of Actual Feminism join Meghan Murphy in an invigorating discussion about Tiger King, The Jersey Shore, the joys of autism, the value of shame, and their most controversial opinions. 

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The Same Drugs Interview: Arielle Scarcella isn't scared of being cancelled

March 31st, 2020

57:22

As a popular lesbian YouTuber, Arielle Scarcella has experienced her fair share of backlash. Recently, a number of queer activists attempted to

The Same Drugs: Episode 10 — Live in the time of corona

March 28th, 2020

1:30:11

In this episode, Meghan Murphy and Laura McNally discuss some COVID-related questions, including: Is it racist to refer to coronavirus as the "China …

The Same Drugs: Episode 9 — Live from the apocalypse!

March 21st, 2020

2:15:48

In this episode, Meghan Murphy and Laura McNally talk about the wide ranging impacts of the coronavirus pandemic, but we also talk about things like ghosts, aliens, cats, and mushrooms. 

This episode originally live …

The Same Drugs Interview: The Benjamin Boyce story

March 21st, 2020

2:16:42

In this episode of The Same Drugs, Meghan Murphy speaks to Benjamin Boyce, who did incredible work documenting the Evergreen Scandal, revealing the …

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