The Hell With This : An Underrated Movie Podcast

68 EpisodesProduced by Dragon Wagon Radio

You know that obscure movie that your best friend loves and talks about constantly despite the fact that you have never seen it? Well it's time to watch THOSE movies.Chad Peter and Mark Heiliger are not just film fanatics but industry professionals. Every week they sit down and dive into a talkie th… read more

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Ep. 68 - The Ice Pirates (1984)

April 30th, 2019


Howdy!  Remember us?  No?  Well, shucks.  Welcome back to another episode of THE HELL WITH THIS.  Your hosts Mark and Chad have been briefly reunited to bring you a, uhm, podcast… where we talk about… things and stuff.  …

Ep. 67 - 20th Century Women (2016)

January 11th, 2019


We're back for the new year!  2019!  Episode 67.  Cruising right along.  This week Chad and guest Matt "Lank" Hingstman muse about their holiday …

Ep. 66 - American Movie (1999)

December 11th, 2018


This week's movie is a legitimate classic - a 1999 documentary entitled "American Movie".  We're digging it up because maybe the world's forgotten …

Ep. 65 - I Origins (2014)

November 27th, 2018


This week Mark and Chad tackle a 2014 film that seemingly snuck right by audiences.  What we can say is this: if you haven't seen the trailer for the movie: don't.  The trailers stupidly spoil the film but, fortunately, …

Ep. 64 - House On Haunted Hill (1999)

November 20th, 2018


We made the mistake of picking a movie with an easily mistaken title.  Is it "Haunting of Hill House"?  Or "House on Haunted Hill"?  We're not entirely sure, either, but this week we've chosen ONE of those to peruse and …

Ep. 63 - Mandy (2018)

November 13th, 2018


Chad is back - just in time to take a swim in the pool of weird, man.  This week the boys check out the 2018 film "Mandy", starring Nicolas Cage from …

Ep. 62 - Swiss Army Man (2016)

November 6th, 2018


Podcasting guru Jake Lloyd (aka our corporate overlord) sits in with our only useful co-host (aka Mark Alan Heiliger - not to be confused with Mark …

Ep. 61 - Master of the Flying Guillotine (1976)

October 30th, 2018


Mark and first-time guest Chris Tonick wax on about their past days of working together, their combined love of "The House with a Clock in Its Walls" (the book and the movie, respectively) and their enjoyment of this …

Ep. 60 - Lost Highway (1997)

October 26th, 2018


We're EXCITED AF to release a new episode.  We're slightly less excited that it's our LONGEST EPISODE EVER, but maybe you just want to spend more time with us.  This week Mark sits down with guest Ryan Wick to discuss …

Ep. 59 - Blade of the Immortal (2017)

July 31st, 2018


Everyone has a Japanese anime/manga phase, right?  Maybe?  No?  Fine, whatever, but we did - at some point - we, as in, Mr. Mark Alan Heiliger, Chad Philip Peter and guest Matt "Lank" Hingstman.  The fellas check out a …

Ep. 58 - *batteries not included (1987)

July 7th, 2018


Guest Matt "Lank" Hingstman brings an old favorite of his, "*batteries not included" (sic), and forces Mark and Chad to watch it while at gunpoint.  …

Ep. 57 - Phoebe In Wonderland (2008)

June 13th, 2018


Today the guys tackle a... children's film?  Or is this a movie for parents?  We can't decide.  The movie is 2008's "Phoebe In Wonderland", starring Elle Fanning in one of the more incredible child actor performances …

Ep. 56 - Ace In The Hole (1951)

June 5th, 2018


Kirk Douglas will live forever.  No, seriously, he's 101 and still putting on one-man shows in Los Angeles.  But 67 years ago he was busy starring in …

Ep. 55 - The Void (2016)

May 6th, 2018


Chad and Mark are back!  The guys discuss work-life balance, wondering what it is, and what it means to be a creative person with no time to be creative.  They also flip the script with Chad bringing a movie he's never …

Ep. 54 - The Last Of Sheila (1973)

April 13th, 2018


Woof - Mark and Chad have been BUSY with work, but they managed to carve out a little time for some movie lovin'.  Which movie exactly?  Chad has no clue.  It's Mark's pick this week, and with him he brings the 1973 …

Ep. 53 - American Teen (2008)

March 28th, 2018


It took us 53 episodes to finally tackle a documentary!  53!!!  So join Mark and Chad as they take a gander at a mostly forgotten documentary from 2008, "American Teen".  They guys discuss general ethics surrounding …

Ep. 52 - Lord of Illusions (1995)

March 12th, 2018


Mark's movie pick for the week comes from the disturbed mind of Clive Barker.  "Lord of Illusions" is a movie that seemingly never left obscurity - so of course we're here to dig it up!  Chad's never seen it, so the …

Ep. 51 - Apollo 13 (1995)

March 1st, 2018


Sweet Jesus, this week's movie might be the smallest, most unheard-of indie film you've absolutely never heard of.  Made with cardboard set pieces …

Ep. 50 - Dredd (2012)

February 23rd, 2018


It's a crowded house for our 50th episode.  Steve Phelan joins Mark and Chad to review 2012's cult hit(?) "Dredd" (originally titled "Dredd 3D", but …

Ep. 49 - Outlander (2008)

February 13th, 2018


Not to be confused with the extremely popular TV show of the same name, 2008's "Outlander" film came and went with a whimper.  Vikings vs. space …

Ep. 48 - Halloween III - Season of the Witch (1982)

February 7th, 2018


Suddenly rocking a sweet new "The Hell With This" theme song by the amazing Zen Zenith, Chad and Mark are back with some early 80's Halloween fare.  It's Mark's choice this week, but neither of the guys have seen …

Ep. 47 - Scarecrow (1973)

January 31st, 2018


Steve Phelan sits in for an absent Chad on a deep dive back to 1973's "Scarecrow", starring Gene Hackman (aww, we miss him) and Al Pacino.  The boys also go on a huge tangent about Star Wars, which seems to be a theme …

Ep. 46 – “Wings of Desire” (1987)

January 17th, 2018


Dreams do come true.  Eventually.  We welcome ourselves back from an impromptu holiday vacation, which we don’t even refer to in the show, because …

Ep. 45 – “Brick” (2005)

December 12th, 2017


Hey, unless you’re living under a rock, you might have heard it’s Star Wars week.  To celebrate the coming-of-age of The Last Jedi‘s director, Rian Johnson, Mark and Chad are here to celebrate the earliest work of the …

Ep. 44 – “Top Secret!” (1984)

December 6th, 2017


Falling in line with the Zucker Brothers’ history of slapstick comedy, “Top Secret!” is no exception to the rule.  It’s a movie that eluded Chad for …

Ep. 43 – “Three Colors: Red” (1994)

November 28th, 2017


The guys deep dive back into the world of European art-house cinema, again looking back to the works of director Krzysztof Kieslowski (we first tackled his “The Double Life of Veronique” in the 4th episode of this …

Ep. 42 – “The Punisher” (2004)

November 22nd, 2017


This is as good a week as any to talk about 2004’s rendition of “The Punisher”, considering Netflix just released their own version of “The Punisher” TV series last week.  This week, Mark presents the movie to Chad, …

Ep. 41 – “Legend” (1985)

November 15th, 2017


Mark and guest Ashley Long (sans Chad, was out of town) take a look at Ridley Scott’s much maligned fantasy epic, “Legend” (The Director’s Cut, specifically).  Ashley stews of fond memories of the film, while Mark …

Ep. 40 – “One Dark Night” (1982)

November 7th, 2017


Mark finally gets his Halloween wish – he and Chad tackle a movie that at least falls into the horror film genre this time.  “One Dark Night” seems to have disappeared from public view since it’s release in 1982.  How …

Ep. 39 – “Blade Runner 2049” (2017)

October 31st, 2017


Happy Halloween!  Mark wanted to do a movie that actually fit the mold of Halloween for the holiday, but Chad was a grump and they stuck with the …

Ep. 38 – “The Trust” (2016)

October 24th, 2017


Today we dip our feet in the world of “modern” independent film.  Mark brings us to a film that recently caught his attention: “The Trust” – made in …

Ep. 37 – “Zodiac” (2007)

October 17th, 2017


This is one of those slow-burn modern-classic films that only David Fincher could have directed.  Mark and Chad discuss, well – is it a “classic”?  …

Ep. 36 – “Poltergeist” (1982)

October 11th, 2017


Mark’s back with previous guest Josh Trotter to discuss the child-traumatizing film, “Poltergeist” – the movie that haunted Josh in his youth (and …

Ep. 35 – “The Player” (1992)

October 3rd, 2017


Ah, the sweet, sweet smell of being back.  Mark and Chad are back after an extended break!  Chad went and directed a feature film in Australia (currently untitled), and Mark’s been busy busting his butt on shows like …

Ep. 34 – “Rumble Fish” (1983)

August 8th, 2017


Mark, Chad and guest Steve Phelan return after a week off to explore Steve’s pick, “Rumble Fish”, Francis Ford Coppola’s generally forgotten …

Ep. 33 – “The Big Short” (2015)

July 23rd, 2017


2008 came and went with no really big issues, right?  Uhh, wrong.  Guest Brian Finifter and co-host Mark Heiliger take a look (minus Chad) at “The Big Short” (Mark’s first time).  They ponder exactly what went wrong …

Ep. 32 – “The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus” (2009)

July 16th, 2017


With whispers that Terry Gilliam’s ill-fated Don Quixote project might finally see the light of day, we thought we’d dive into another Gilliam film that almost didn’t make it to screens: “The Imaginarium of Doctor …

Ep. 31 – “Prince of Darkness” (1987)

July 10th, 2017


Mark and Chad dive deep into John Carpenter’s “Prince of Darkness” – a film which Chad is seeing for the first time.  They talk about their …

Ep. 30 – “La La Land” (2016)

July 2nd, 2017


Pretty sure you’ve heard of this one before.  “The famous Oscar loser”, as Mark puts it, gently.  But Mark’s never seen it, and Chad has (too many times), so here we are.  Why tackle a movie that’s hot off the press? …

Ep. 29 – “It Follows” (2014)

June 26th, 2017


Chad and Byron Smith tackle Chad’s favorite movie from 2014, the wonderful (but oddly divisive) “It Follows”.  This movie loves suspense, adores …

Ep. 28 – “Sex, Lies and Videotape” (1989)

June 19th, 2017


The era of “films for adults” is dead.  Ain’t it?  We live in an age where films similar to “Sex, Lies and Videotape” seem to be hitting Netflix on a …

Ep. 27 – “The Notorious Bettie Page” (2005)

June 12th, 2017


Well, it finally happened.  Chad finally returned to the podcast, after missing 4 of the last 5 episodes.  The original duo, Mark and Chad, are back together at last, this time to bring you a movie of Chad’s request: a …

Ep. 26 – “Earth Girls Are Easy” (1988)

June 4th, 2017


Hey, guess what!  Chad’s missing in action for the second week straight, replaced this time by animation director extraordinaire, Ashley Long (also known to be dating Mark Alan Heiliger, co-host of this very podcast)! …

Ep. 25 – “Back To School” (1986)

May 28th, 2017


Oh hello, everyone.  Chad here.  This week’s podcast features people not including myself – I know, I know – but the show must go on (including next week, which I’m also absent for).  All this aside, co-host Mark brings …

Ep. 24 – “Better Luck Tomorrow” (2002)

May 21st, 2017


Hey everybody, Chad’s back!  Chad’s back!


…and so is Steve Phelan, returning for his third consecutive podcast with the fellas.  Today they attempt to tackle one of Chad’s suggested films – the Justin Lin …

Ep. 23 – “The In-Laws” (1979)

May 14th, 2017


With Chad absent AGAIN, last week’s guest – Steve Phelan – makes a fill-in look natural.  This time Steve picks the movie: the original “The In-Laws” from 1979, starring the great Peter Falk and Alan Arkin in a film …

Ep. 22 – “Last Action Hero” (1993)

May 7th, 2017


Today we celebrate the absence of Chad from the podca– er, we mean, no, we like Chad… but he’s absent from this particular episode, as he’s …

Ep. 21 – “The Light Between Oceans” (2016)

April 30th, 2017


2016 saw the release of many a great film, topped by “Moonlight” at the academy awards (almost, famously, “Lalaland”).  One of the forgotten films of the year – by critics and moviegoers alike – was “The Light Between …

Ep. 20 – “The Impostors” (1998)

April 23rd, 2017


Hot off his debut film, Big Night, Stanley Tucci wrote and directed this comedy in the style of Wilder/Marx/Hardy/Costello… to mixed success.  Mixed, meaning it is right up Mark’s alley, and diametrically opposed to the …

Ep. 19 – “Black Book” (2005)

April 16th, 2017


RobocopTotal RecallBasic InstinctShowgirlsStarship Troopers, and… Black Book?  What do these have in common?  They’re all (mostly) awesome – …

Ep. 18 – “The Long Goodbye” (1973)

April 9th, 2017


Whatever your opinion might be on the films of Robert Altman, no one can deny his films have a specific style.  Mark introduces Chad to this 1973 film, hoping to clarify his own feelings on the movie – is it good, or …

Ep. 17 – “Grandma’s Boy” (2010)

April 2nd, 2017


Somewhere, lost in the sands of time, this movie was released in theaters to a non-existent audience.  Gradually that audience grew on DVD and …

Ep. 16 – “Talk Radio” (1988)

March 26th, 2017


Where this movie disappeared to is beyond us.  Frankly, Chad had never heard of “Talk Radio” prior to Mark suggesting it as a possible option.

At the height of his prime, Oliver Stone set out to direct this film – a …

Ep. 15 – “Paths of Glory” (1957)

March 19th, 2017


Finally we crack open an “older” film – Stanley Kubrick’s “Paths of Glory”.  Mark and Chad take a crack at what appears to be Kubrick’s baby-legs …

Ep. 14 – “Frailty” (2001)

March 12th, 2017


RIP Bill Paxton, you talented bastard.  Mark and Chad sulk in a darker world and try to bring ourselves around to a world without Private Hudson. …

Ep. 13 – “Flirting” (1991)

March 5th, 2017


What can we say about this movie that likely no one reading this has ever heard of?  “Flirting” is an Australian film made in the early 1990’s, …

Ep. 12 – “Spartan” (2004)

February 26th, 2017


“Spartan” is not just an adjective, it’s a movie thanks to David Mamet who brings his trademark “so unrealistic, it starts to sound realistic” dialogue to this 2004 thriller.  No, it’s not a prequel to “300”.  This is a …

Ep. 11 – “SLC Punk” (1998)

February 19th, 2017


Where does Chad begin?  “This movie is awesome and holds up greatly.”  The times have changed, but seem to stay the same… maybe more now than ever!  …

Ep. 10 – “Phantom of the Paradise” (1974)

February 12th, 2017


Well, it finally happened.  We broke the chain of movies that at least one of us has seen by watching “Phantom of the Paradise” – a movie that neither of us had seen.  This is a film directed by the “great” Brian …

Ep. 9 – “About Time” (2013)

February 5th, 2017


Chad had to force this one on Mark, more or less, because honestly who wants to watch a british rom-com about time travel?  (don’t answer that, …

Ep. 8 – “Just One Of The Guys” (1985)

January 29th, 2017


“Just One of the Guys” – straight from the 80’s (and completely unbeknownst to Chad), this movie lurked in the shadows for the past 30 years (where it mostly continues to live). Apparently Chad is the last one to have …

Ep. 7 – “Things To Do In Denver When You’re Dead” (1995)

January 22nd, 2017


Chad loves this movie.  Mark’s never seen it.  WHAT WILL HAPPEN NOW?

A podcast… naturally.

We didn’t plan it this way, but this is our seventh episode, continuing the trend of ONE of us has seen it, ONE of us hasn’t. …

Ep. 6 – “Cast A Deadly Spell” (1991)

January 15th, 2017


Straight from the dvd-rip library of Mark Alan Heiliger, comes the HBO classic(?) “Cast a Deadly Spell”, starring Fred Ward, Clancy Brown and a …

Ep. 5 – “Hobo With A Shotgun” (2011)

January 8th, 2017


Ah, yes, the modern day treasure that is “Hobo with a Shotgun”.  We try to figure out exactly where this movie spawned from (do we fail?  We don’t know, because we don’t research anyway).  Rutger Hauer plays it straight …

Ep. 4 – “The Double Life of Veronique” (1991)

January 1st, 2017


We debated whether or not it was a good idea to delve THIS DEEP into European “art-house” film world so early on, but hey, this is one of the best works by one of Chad’s personal favorite directors, Krzysztof …

Ep. 3 – “Runaway” (1984)

December 25th, 2016


Posting this magical podcast a few days early because we’ll be out of town on our regular Sunday to release it.  So… Happy holidays?  This week’s …

Ep. 2 – “Ladies and Gentlemen The Fabulous Stains” (1982)

December 18th, 2016


Today we cover the 1982 cult film, “Ladies and Gentlemen The Fabulous Stains”.  This is a movie that Chad saw upon it’s 2010 DVD release and …

Ep. 1 – “Monsters” (2010)

December 11th, 2016


The epic first episode of our strange little podcast focuses on the 2010 movie “Monsters”, directed by Gareth Edwards (Star Wars: Rogue One). Figured it was a timely selection (given the release of Rogue One on the week …

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