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The Healers Café

186 EpisodesProduced by Manon Bolliger (facilitator and retired naturopath with 30+ years of practiWebsite

Hi, it's Manon Bolliger (facilitator and retired naturopath with 30+ years of practice) and I want to welcome you to the Healers Cafe.I am so excited to be doing this series of interviews and what I'll be doing is, is asking all kinds of healthcare practitioners, doctors, healers of all types, to re… read more


How Your Patients Heal Through Listening with Dr Russ Rosen, ND on The Healers Café with Dr. Manon Bolliger, ND

In this episode of The Healers Café, Dr. Manon Bolliger, ND, talks to Dr Russ Rosen The CEO of The Optimal Health Coaching System since 2000 where he has helped hundreds of doctors and natural health practitioners thrive in a True Optimal-Health model.

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Highlights from today's episode include:

Dr Russ Rosen 03:42

Especially in the chiropractic field, we have a lot of what we have learned, which is to manipulate people or to scare people. It's the subluxation, the silent killer. And you know, it's about if I manipulate you, I can get you to do the care you need. And it's all tied up in a pink bow, which is it's in your best interest. But as you and I know, the last thing I want to do is cause fear..

Dr Russ Rosen

So, we use this path to optimal health, which is negative 10 is near death. And we know it because you're in hospice care. Zero is comfort, you're feeling good, but you're not functioning at your optimum, you're not really healthy, but you feel good. And then there's optimal health, you're as healthy as you can be. And we have to take them through a series of steps to help them recognize where they're truly at, find out where they truly want to get to. And if they just want to get to hear far out, that's okay. And if they want to get healthy and stay healthy, that's okay, too. What's not okay is to not let them know the difference between the two. And what you can truly do for them.

Dr Russ Rosen

So, let's take a look at this, it’s called the neuroscience of communications. And it's based on when you and I have an average conversation, we will both hear about 25% of what the other person is saying. Some of the time, I'm thinking of how I would reply to you some of the time I'm thinking I'm distracted with something else. Some of the time I'm thinking here to pick up, you know, eggs, you know, and we just, we start, like, not really hearing and seeing much. And my question is, you as a practitioner, how much of your information that you need them to understand about how you can help them?


About Dr Russ Rosen

Dr. Russ Rosen has been the CEO of The Optimal Health Coaching System since 2000 where he has helped hundreds of doctors and natural health practitioners thrive in a True Optimal-Health model.

He has led over 30,000 coaching sessions, spoken at 60 live events Worldwide and is the proud recipient of CLA/CWA’s “Lifetime Achievement” award for his  “Patient Care” vs. “Patient Scare” Communication training.

He believes that the secret to effortless and organic Practice growth is building rock solid certainty and becoming a master of your messaging.

Using the Neuroscience of Communication system, Dr Rosen teaches Wellness Providers how to ask the right questions, in the right order so that your patients GET your message, understand your TRUE VALUE and FOLLOW THROUGH with your best recommendations.

If you want to build a highly profitable Health and Wellness Practice organically, without wasting your time, energy and money on complicated marketing campaigns, Dr Rosen will show you how to get there.

Core purpose / passion:  My mission is to help passionate health care professionals; thrive in a care vs. scare true Optimal Health model giving long-term freedom, wealth, and peace of mind.

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About Dr. Manon Bolliger, ND:

Dr. Manon is a Naturopathic Doctor, the Founder of Bowen College, an International Speaker, she did a TEDx talk "Your Body is Smarter Than You Think. Why Aren’t You Listening?"  in Jan 2021, and is the author of Amazon best-selling books "What Patient's Don't Say if Doctors Don't Ask". & "A Healer in Every Household" For more great information to go to her weekly blog:


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About The Healers Café:

Dr. Manon's show is the #1 show for medical practitioners and holistic healers to have heart to heart conversations about their day to day lives.


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