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The Healers Café

187 EpisodesProduced by Manon Bolliger (facilitator and retired naturopath with 30+ years of practiWebsite

Hi, it's Manon Bolliger (facilitator and retired naturopath with 30+ years of practice) and I want to welcome you to the Healers Cafe.I am so excited to be doing this series of interviews and what I'll be doing is, is asking all kinds of healthcare practitioners, doctors, healers of all types, to re… read more


How to Empower Yourself through Spiritual Journey with Andy Duchovnay and Pam Urbas on The Healers Caf with Dr Manon Bolliger ND

In this episode of The Healers Café, Dr. Manon Bolliger ND, talks to Andy Duchovnay and Pam Urbas from The Indigo Sanctuary. We are sound healers, rock collectors, who collect rocks from Nature in sustainable ways, throughout the US, and spiritual artists who do lapidary arts.

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Highlights from today's episode include:

Pam Urbas 07:41

I don't tell people that practice should be yoga, or practice should be meditation. When I started teaching, I was teaching in a regular yoga environment, and I moved more towards therapeutic yoga. And a lot of my clients were into prayer. And I felt that it was just as beneficial as meditation. So, it really depends on the person.


Andy Duchovnay 14:12

And we believe the importance of energy, and the presence of energy everywhere. So just like when you raise food organically, the energy of raising it in a in a good ethical way and in a sustainable way. It infuses the food, and you don't get negative karma from it. And we feel the same about ethically sourcing our gemstones. We know that we're collecting it in a respectful way. And it adds to our sense because we write about our stones, and we say every stone has a story.


Andy Duchovnay 16:41

And it all weaves together because we started taking gemstones and Reiki and fusing them and incorporating them in playing bowl or singing bowl playing sticks. It adds to the energy level and the spiritual experience of it. So, we like to have connections between things that we might not always see, but it just evolves that way.



About Andy Duchovnay and Pam Urbas

Andy and Pam are spiritual partners of 36 years. They are both empaths and have both been healers since childhood.

Andy is a retired environmental lawyer, having worked for the USEPA for 20 years. Before then, he represented organic food producers and was involved in the development of the US Organic Food Production Act of 1990.

Pam is a yoga teacher, who worked mainly with people with special needs, the elderly and women in homeless shelters. She now teaches Yin Yoga online, a practice Pam and Andy use in their home practice.

Together, Pam and Andy have conducted Yin Yoga and Singing Bowl Sound Bath programs, and conducted chakra balancing sessions, throughout the Philadelphia and suburban area. They are spiritual entrepreneurs, who travel throughout the US to collect healing gemstones for their artwork, as well as annual trips to Nepal, to work collaboratively with Jaki and Tulsi, their business partners.


Core purpose/passion: Our core purpose is to support people develop and grow their spiritual lives. We believe that self-care is necessary. When we take care of ourselves, we can give to others in a sustainable and heart-centered way. To have a meaningful spiritual life it is helpful to have a Home Sanctuary where you can quiet your mind and relax, meditate, pray, play singing bowls, do yoga, journal or anything else you have included in your daily home practice.

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About Dr. Manon Bolliger, ND:

Dr. Manon is a Naturopathic Doctor, the Founder of Bowen College, an International Speaker, she did a TEDx talk "Your Body is Smarter Than You Think. Why Aren’t You Listening?"  in Jan 2021, and is the author of Amazon best-selling books "What Patient's Don't Say if Doctors Don't Ask". & "A Healer in Every Household" For more great information to go to her weekly blog:


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About The Healers Café:

Dr. Manon's show is the #1 show for medical practitioners and holistic healers to have heart to heart conversations about their day to day lives.

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