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The Healers Café

186 EpisodesProduced by Manon Bolliger (facilitator and retired naturopath with 30+ years of practiWebsite

Hi, it's Manon Bolliger (facilitator and retired naturopath with 30+ years of practice) and I want to welcome you to the Healers Cafe.I am so excited to be doing this series of interviews and what I'll be doing is, is asking all kinds of healthcare practitioners, doctors, healers of all types, to re… read more


How to Heal the Whole Person with Dr Charlie Cropley, ND & Dr Node Smith, ND on The Healers Café with Dr M (Manon Bolliger), ND

In this episode of The Healers Café, Dr. Manon Bolliger ND, talks WITH Dr Charlie Cropley, ND & Dr Node Smith, ND about the art of self-healing. How to deal with chronic degenerative disease by cultivating self-mastery in ones eating, moving, thinking and relating.



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highlights from today's episode include:

Charlie Cropley 

When I was an intern. And in my third year of naturopathic college, I had a patient with rheumatoid arthritis. And I found myself going through this book looking for how do you cure or treat rheumatoid arthritis. And I went, people been having rheumatoid arthritis for as long as there have been human beings. And I'm still doing we haven't found a way right to heal rheumatoid arthritis. And I said Bosh, I know. I know beyond a doubt what will improve this. Through eating and through this person's power to bring healing to themselves by improving their behaviors.


Node Smith 

You know, many people many, and you know, everyone, every doctor knows that patients have tried numerous diets and have not been successful, they've tried numerous exercise programs and not been successful. And it is not because diet and exercise don't work. That is not what's happening. It's a level of skillfulness. It might be the type of diet, it might be how they're eating, it might be emotional elements surrounding eating, and the same thing with exercise or movement.

Charlie Cropley 

The foundation that we work from is that of relationship. And we begin and end during the intensive with a teaching on the patient's relationship to their illness and introduce the naturopathic perspective of illness as a message to us, right. And so, we begin to transform their relationship to their illness, and then the physical exam, we then look at their relationship to their body. And then we look at their relationship to each of the four behaviors to their eating, to their movement, to their thinking, and to their relationships with other people. And we're, teaching them that how to...that their body, their mind, they are the only ones who know, and receive the messages from their body in their minds.


Bio: Dr Charley Cropley, ND

Charley Cropley, ND helps people heal. For 45 years he has worked intimately with patients suffering from autoimmune conditions and chronic degenerative diseases to skin conditions and acute infections - and everything in between.

Practicing and teaching the art of self-healing is Dr. Cropley’s life’s purpose. He has spent his entire career trying to understand how his patients’ ways of eating, thinking, moving, and relating are causing their illness, and how to guide them to heal themselves by improving these four behaviors.

Dr. Cropley is a living embodiment of his life’s work and an avid believer that every person can experience the true medicine of self-healing.   He leaves a legacy within each of his patients, because he literally teaches and trains them how to become their own doctor.
Dr. Cropley graduated from National College of Naturopathic Medicine in 1979. He has been a practicing naturopathic doctor, teacher and author in the Boulder/Denver area for the last 35 years.

Dr. Cropley has trained hundreds of doctors in his methods of nutrition and self-healing. He is the author of numerous articles, several books and courses. Dr. Cropley frequently lectures at the colleges of naturopathic medicine, and is widely regarded as one of today’s leading thinkers and teachers in the philosophy and practice of self-healing.

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BIO:  Dr Node Smith, ND

Node has an infectious way about him that inspires people and helps make the types of changes necessary for lasting health somehow easier. He is also a master at helping others overcome obstacles, or turn obstacles into opportunities. He believes in humanity, he believes in health, and he believes in those he works with. He is more than a doctor, he is a counselor and a guide.  

Node Smith is a licensed naturopathic physician graduated from the National University of Natural Medicine in 2017.  He also serves as the associate editor of Naturopathic Doctor’s News and Review, and the NaturalPath. He was the founding chairman of a professional non-profit, Association for Naturopathic ReVitalization, which is dedicated to providing experiential education opportunities for the naturopathic profession.

Node’s greatest gift is the ability to transform obstacles into opportunities, which is the overarching approach he brings to healthcare. He is a dynamic speaker and facilitator who is knowledgeable and charismatic. He has a unique presentation style, which engages audiences and attempts to personalize information as much as possible. His passion for health is palpable, and he will inspire you to look at health in a new way.

Core purpose/passion: We are passionate about helping people direct their own behaviours in skillful ways that allow them to have a deeper understanding of their illness, and to use these behaviours, eating, moving, thinking and relating, to bring about real physical healing of chronic degenerative disease.


About Dr. M (Manon Bolliger), ND:

Dr. Manon is a Naturopathic Doctor, the Founder of Bowen College, an International Speaker, she did a TEDx talk "Your Body is Smarter Than You Think. Why Aren’t You Listening?"  in Jan 2021, and is the author of Amazon best-selling books "What Patient's Don't Say if Doctors Don't Ask". & "A Healer in Every Household" For more great information to go to her weekly blog:

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About The Healers Café:

Dr. Manon's show is the #1 show for medical practitioners and holistic healers to have heart to heart conversations about their day to day lives.


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