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The Fox and the Phoenix

21 EpisodesProduced by Savannah Hauk, Author & Julie Rubenstein, Style ConsultantWebsite

Understanding the Feminine Crossdressing ExperienceTo de-mystify, humanize, and celebrate the crossdressing community, providing a positive and realistic understanding through conversation between a crossdresser and a cis-ally.

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Blue Sky 13.1 - Gobble Gobble, Y'all!

November 26th, 2020

35:32

Welcome to another BLUE SKY bonus episode!


In this episode, Savannah and Julie give thanks to each other, the podcast, the listeners, and to those …

013 Make Up Test

November 25th, 2020

1:06:45

What happens when Julie asks Savannah about her make-up routine? Well, the result is a multi-step tutorial from shower to hair... and every step in …

012 - What Does Transgender Even Mean? (part 2)

November 18th, 2020

33:27

NOTE: This episode deals with a topic that may be triggering for some listeners.

What happens when Savannah surprises Julie with a topic that …

011 - What Does Transgender Even Mean? (part 1)

November 11th, 2020

36:42

NOTE: This episode deals with a topic that may be triggering for some listeners.

What happens when Savannah surprises Julie with a topic that …

Blue Sky 10.1 - Long Exhale for Many

November 9th, 2020

21:13

Welcome to another BLUE SKY episode.

These are bite-sized episodes for your listening pleasure.

In this episode, Savannah and Julie touch on the week …

010 - Dude Looks Like a Lady

November 4th, 2020

37:04

While Julie instantly connected with Savannah after meeting her virtually as guests on another podcast, Julie struggled to come to terms with meeting …

009 - Halloween... the Crossdressers' Christmas

October 28th, 2020

49:04

It's that time of year again. The spooky and hallowed eve when women shed their layers for something with "sexy" in the title and when crossdressers  used the cover of darkness--and the throngs of costumes neighbors, …

Blue Sky 8.2 - Miscellaneous October Musings

October 23rd, 2020

19:37

Welcome to another BLUE SKY episode.

These are bite-sized episodes for your listening pleasure!

In this episode, Savannah and Julie have strung …

Blue Sky 8.1 - Oops! I Did It Again!

October 21st, 2020

13:58

Welcome to the fourth BLUE SKY episode! These are bite-sized for your listening pleasure!

Savannah regales the always supportive and lovely Julie …

008 Accidental Discovery over Wine and Cheese

October 14th, 2020

38:49

What happens when your male self attends a vendor-sponsored, work-related, virtual wine and cheese tasting event... and your femme name in on your Zoom profile pic? Well, Savannah unravels the aforementioned event--and, …

007 Its All About That Book... About That Book... No Trouble

October 7th, 2020

18:35

Julie starts off with a serenade of a song snippet! What? Then, it's all about book learnin' as Savannah and Julie both share about their writing …

Blue Sky 6.1 - All or Nothing

September 30th, 2020

7:54

Welcome to the third BLUE SKY episode! These are bite-sized for your listening pleasure!

Uh oh... Savannah climbs up on her soapbox to preach (sister!) about how she is very binary in her gender expressions, while …

006 Marilyn Monroe and an Updraft, plus more...

September 23rd, 2020

23:56

Savannah and Julie finish their chocolate milk and PB&J to ramble on about topics not even meant for the podcast! A simple question about "what …

005 Debunking Deuteronomy 22:5... and other things

September 16th, 2020

33:52

American King James Version (Deuteronomy 22:5)
"The woman shall not wear that which pertains to a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination to the LORD your God."
Savannah talks …

Blue Sky 4.1 - Truth and Consequences

September 9th, 2020

6:18

Welcome to the second BLUE SKY episode! These are bite-sized for your listening pleasure!

How can any crossdressing men live a best life? It starts with the journey to self-discovery and ends with self-acceptance and …

004 Family Jules - From Stylish Fashionista to Proud Ally

September 2nd, 2020

31:08

In this episode, Savannah grills Julie on how she started the style and fashion consultancy of Fox and Hanger, as well as how she found herself …

003 Savannah's Song - From her First Time to Visibility in the South

August 26th, 2020

34:59

Savannah is on the hot seat this episode as Julie peppers her with questions about her crossdressing. From her earliest crossdressing memories where …

Blue Sky 2.1 - Living on the Fringe

August 19th, 2020

12:21

Welcome to the first BLUE SKY episode! These are bite-sized for your listening pleasure!

What do we know about different types of crossdressers and …

002 Baristas, Kids Today, The Pandemic, and Hope for the Future

August 12th, 2020

28:22

In this episode, Julie Rubenstein, the co-founder and Style Consultant from Fox and Hanger, and Savannah Hauk, author of the "Living with …

001 Our Superhero Origin Story

August 5th, 2020

46:12

Julie and Savannah talk about how they met and how sharing a dream idea through email correspondence led to the creation of a podcast together From …

Everyone loves the trailers before the movies, right?

July 10th, 2020

8:04

Savannah Hauk, male-to-female crossdresser and author of the "Living with Crossdressing" book series, joins forces with Julie Rubenstein, proud ally …

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