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070 w/ Jacob Siegel "What Didn't Happen in Boston, Something about Afghanistan"


Episode description

Recorded 8/24/2017

This episode: non-existent Nazis, overblown Antifa, and Portuguese vagina-walls.

Jacob Siegel was in Boston and Afghanistan, and now he is in Moynihan's chair. He helps the guys figure out what the hell happened in Boston (and why it's not the same as Charlottesville).

PLUS: Is there a "libertarian-to-alt-right pipeline"? Should we take "Internet fascists" seriously? Would going "soft on white supremacists" actually help Trump?

AND... sunk costs in Afghanistan, fights on Planet Libertarian, and Matt doesn't want to punch any grannies. 

Happy birthday, Hollywood (wherever he is).

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February 21st, 2019


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February 13th, 2019


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February 4th, 2019


w/ Brendan O'Neill (Editor in Chief, "Spiked")

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128 “A BOMBSHELL (If True), Punching MAGA Teens, Venezuela"

January 24th, 2019


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January 18th, 2019


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126 “Trump's Fence, Dating Ocasio-Cortez, Shaun King's Crusade”

January 11th, 2019


"Smarter, harder, about the same length as usual." - Anonymous

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(Recorded June 13th, 2018) 



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May 1st, 2018


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April 25th, 2018


(Recorded: April 24, 2018)

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April 3rd, 2018


(Recorded: March 27, 2018)

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March 30th, 2018


(Recorded: March 28, 2018)


Tom Slater, Deputy Editor @ Spike'd

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March 10th, 2018


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March 2nd, 2018


Recorded: March 1, 2018.

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February 16th, 2018


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090 "About That Nunes Memo, Red Pills and Foreign Policy"

February 3rd, 2018


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January 27th, 2018


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January 7th, 2018


Recorded: January 5, 2018

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086 w/ Tina Brown "The Vanity Fair Diaries and Authentic Bullshit" (Special Dispatch)

December 22nd, 2017


Recorded: December 21, 2017.

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December 16th, 2017


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with/ Jeffrey Blehar (@EsotericCD) of Decision Desk HQ and The Political Beats podcast.

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December 8th, 2017


(Recorded, November 2017)

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December 2nd, 2017


- Matt Lauer

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November 21st, 2017


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Recorded on Thursday, November 8th, 2017

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October 28th, 2017


Recorded on Thursday, October 26th, 2017

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October 21st, 2017


Recorded on Thursday, October 19th, 2017

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October 14th, 2017


Recorded on Thursday, October 12th, 2017

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October 7th, 2017


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075 w/ Katherine Mangu-Ward "Limp Tax Plans, Taking a Knee, Russia Takes Baltimore"

September 29th, 2017


Guest: Katherine Mangu-Ward, Editor-in-Chief @ Reason

Recorded: Wednesday, September 27th, 2017.

Another wide-ranging, intellectually-stimulating, and …

074 "A Clear and Present Dotard: The UN, The Kremlin, Facebook and St. Louis"

September 23rd, 2017


Recorded on Thursday, September 21, 2017

President Trump's remarks at the UN parley were (hilarious? /meh? /dangerous? ) and unmistakably confused.

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073 w/ David Weigel "Bernie Shapes the Party, Hillary Wrote a Book, A Little Prog Rock"

September 16th, 2017


Recorded on Thursday September 14, 2017

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072 "Media Panics, Title IX, DACA, The Passion of Bagger Vance"

September 8th, 2017


Recorded 9/8/2017

Moynihan’s back from Russia and has the drinking stories to prove it. Normally reasonable journalos lose their goddamn minds over …

071 w/ Ron Bailey "The Politics of Disaster, Better Late Than Never"

September 5th, 2017


Recorded 8/31/2017

Guest: Ronald Bailey, science correspondent for Reason magazine and

Natural Disasters, political photo-ops, and …

069 w/ Deray Mckesson "Unite the Right, with White ISIS"

August 17th, 2017


The guys take a deep dive into Donald Trump's policy on infrastructure and Nazis.

Matt is back, Moynihan is off drugs and high on life, and Kmele once …

068 "Criminal Justice, Naughty Texts, Fire & Fury, Diversity Manifesto" (w/ Radley Balko and Thad Russell)

August 11th, 2017


 Recorded: 8/9/2017

With Us This Week:

Radley Balko - Washington Post Columnist, Author "Rise of the Warrior Cop","Dr Death and The Country Dentist" …

067 w/ Alyona Minkovski “Get Me THE MOOCH, The Story of Lyndon Jumbo Johnson"

August 3rd, 2017


[“And We Back." -Chance the Rapper]


- Moynihan is MIA

- Welch is trapped in a room with no AC, 75 dead flies, and a busted shoulder -- and loving …

066 “Seriously - Eventually We Get to Health Care, Immigration, Forensics et al”

July 20th, 2017


A dense, tangent-filled, and edifying new dispatch (fueled by cash-filled envelopes, adderall, and a bottle of Bushmills -- thanks, Drew.) 

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065 w/ Eli Lake “Donald Jr Loves It, Moynihan's Great Big Movie Premier”

July 14th, 2017


Recorded: July 12th, 2017


 · Eli Lake Is a Superlative, Award-Winning Hebrew

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064 "It's Blackmail, Presser in Poland, Jay Z: Feminism"

July 7th, 2017


A Helpful Guide to This Weeks Dispatch:

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063 "Bleeding Badly, Why Journalists Screw Up, and Please -- No Cameras"

June 30th, 2017


Recorded: June 29th, 2017

A journalistic-misdeed results in the firing of three prominent CNN staffers and a new front in the conflict between Trump …

062 "Notes on Philando Castile, Otto Warmbier, and Evergreen"

June 22nd, 2017


Recorded: June 21, 2017

The Philando Castile case has reached a controversial conclusion. In July 2016, Castile was shot to death during a traffic …

061 "Tragedy in Alexandria, Interrogating Alex Jones, Maligning Jeff Sessions"

June 15th, 2017


With high profile congressional inquests into shadowy conspiracies, media panics, and boring White House events turning into embarrassing fodder for late night comedians — the stage was set for an almost banal week in …

060 "Corbyn Surprises, Comey Testifies, Maher Apologizes, and Kmele Will Not Shut Up"

June 10th, 2017


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Corbyn Surprises his labour party rival (and just about everyone else). Comey testifies before Congress, Trump is quite about it until he isn’t. And Bill Maher said ‘Nigga’, or was it …

SD2 w/ Timothy Snyder “On Tyranny, Bloodlands, Trump and Hayek”

June 9th, 2017


[Special Dispatch #2]

A rangy and Moynihan-heavy exchange w/ Timothy Snyder, Yale University Professor of History and author of numerous books including (the magisterial) “Bloodlands: Europe between Hitler and Stalin” …

059 “Pulling Out, Back Channeling, Graffitied Epithets”

June 3rd, 2017


- Pulling out of the Pairs Climate Deal

- Roiling the EU

- Surveying the Russian investigation

- Lamenting w/ LeBron (and not about that horrific game …

058 “Mayhem in Manchester, Deals with Devils, and Collusion Most Foul” - The Fifth Column

May 25th, 2017


"If they're buying off this president, they're really not getting their money's worth." - Michael Moynihan

Do terrorists hate us for our freedom? Are the Saudis just "guided by the beauty of our weapons"? Will Welch …

057 w/ Thad Russell “ComeyGate Metastasis, Completely Settling This NATO Business” - The Fifth Column

May 19th, 2017


“The most important Fifth Column History… In fact, the most important podcast all week.” - Thad RussellThe apeirogon-like ComeyGate scandal careens …

056 “James Comey Gets Sh**canned, Julian Assange is Still at Large” - The Fifth Column

May 11th, 2017


Is former FBI boss James Comey's unexpected and unceremonious termination a Nixonesque attempt to bury the Russian narrative once and for all... Is …

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May 5th, 2017


Moynihan is late; Matt went to a cocktail party; Kmele needs a date for Guardians of the Galaxy; and Jamie Kirchick (author, “The End of Europe”) drops by with dire predictions about the fate of the European Project.

054 “100 Days of Pretty Awful, Media Bubbled, Passion of the Nerds” - The Fifth Column

April 27th, 2017


A review of the first 100 days of the Trump Presidency: Controversy, failures, do-overs and general incompetence. Plus: Media bubbles and consequence. And that time the streets were filled with brave, angry, nerds…

053 w/ Michael Weiss “The MOAB Doctrine: Technically, Bombing Stuff is A Strategy” - The Fifth Column

April 14th, 2017


A record-breaking, kiloton-length new release with all the kinetic energy of [ABRUPTLY CUTS OFF EXPLOSIVES METAPHPOR]...

Eat some chocolate cake with …

052 w/ Eli Lake “Kinda Bombing the Sh*t Out of 'Em Right Now, Something About Susan Rice ” - The Fifth Column

April 7th, 2017


We knew things were heating up in Syria, but it was still a bit of a shock when Tomahawk missiles started flying all over the place. Fortunately for …

051 w/ Rep Thomas Massie “Trump Care Postmortem, Protesting Putin, Two Painful Years in Yemen” - The Fifth Column

March 29th, 2017


Rep Thomas Massie swings by to provide a first person account of the failed Ryan/Trump health care bill. Plus: The prospects for Trump's Tax reform agenda and the intersections of 'economic nationalism' and …

050 "Health Care Pileup, Burn All The Paintings, Donna Brazile's Kinda Sorry" - The Fifth Column

March 25th, 2017


Health Care Reform, Trump’s Long Game, New York Real Estate Woes & Casual Racism, Burning All the Paintings, Multiple Beers and A Tall Bottle of …

049 "Is GCHQ Wiretapping the Hell Outta That Thang?, Maddow's ManBearPig Exclusive" - The Fifth Column

March 18th, 2017


Did the Brits actually wiretap his building? And look, he’s ‘good people’, but we’re gonna have to talk about this, ‘sources say’ stuff…

048 "Ok, We Need to Talk About Russia, Worse Than Iraq, Non-troversies" - The Fifth Column

March 10th, 2017


It's an active week in Washington as the Trump administration takes a few mulligans. The Travel/Muslim Ban is revealed, Congress debates the deeply …

XXX w/ Dr Henry Louis Gates, Dr George Yancy “Race, History, and Identity” - The Fifth Column [Special Dispatch]

March 5th, 2017


[Special Dispatch]

"Two Conversations About Race, History, and Identity”

Kmele hijacks the podcast stream for a pair of conversations about race, philosophy, what history and filmmaking have in common, why he hates when …

047 "Trump's Not State of the Union, Patriots & Anecdotes, The End of Ideology" - The Fifth Column

March 2nd, 2017


"Presidential." "His Best Speech Yet." "Hey, What Happened To His Entirely-Too-Long Red Tie!?" ---- It's an all new Donald Trump. He's calm, composed, occasionally optimistic and his standard complement of half-truths, …

046 "Flynn Gets Fired, Incompetent Totalitarians, He Totally Called It" - The Fifth Column

February 16th, 2017


The cascade of failures, missteps, scandal and controversy otherwise known as the Trump Administration has stammered into its fourth week of governance*. Michael Flynn -- Former National Security Adviser.... the man …

045 w/ Damon Root "When Everything's a Crisis and Everyone's a Nazi..." - The Fifth Column

February 11th, 2017


POTUS is at war with the courts, with the press, and on account of it's leaking like a sieve, he's kinda at war with his own administration. Reason's resident legal aficionado Damon Root stop by to expound on …

044 w/ Kevin Williamson "Fear, Loathing and that Muslim Ban" OR "Dangerous Ideas -- Courteously Discussed" - The Fifth Column

February 1st, 2017


Is it a Muslim Ban? Should America just 'bar the damn door'? Is it racism? Or is it perhaps just more 'what-about-ism'? What is the connection …

043 "Trump Stallone: POTUS, True Believer, First of His Name" - The Fifth Column

January 27th, 2017


A week under our belts and we're still reeling...

A deluge of executive activity, constitutional controversies, 'emoluments'(?!), lawsuits, like -- a …

042 w/ Thad Russell "John Lewis: Moral Authoritarian for Hire, CNN vs Trump, Freed Manning" - The Fifth Column

January 19th, 2017


The waning hours of President Obama's tenure, on the eve of Trump-Mageddon, and the hits just keep on coming.

The President-Elect finds himself embroiled in a nasty fight with an almost universally revered CIVIL RIGHTS …

041 "Unsubstantiated, Unverifiable, and Indisputably Entertaining" - The Fifth Column

January 11th, 2017


After a day of confirmation hearings and protesters in pink t-shirts, amid growing uncertainty about the future of Obama Care, and just ahead of President Obama's Farewell Address in Chicago; a dossier filled with …

040 "Johnny Walker -- Neat, #BLMKidnapping, and y'all still talkin bout Russia?" - The Fifth Column

January 7th, 2017


Welch has been eying the guitar in the corner all night, some thoughtful listeners sent the fellas a huge bottle of Johnny Walker Black, and appears …

039 "Tragedy in Berlin, About That New Cold-ish War, Obama's Failures and Successes" - The Fifth Column

December 30th, 2016


In the final dispatch of 2016, THE COLUMNISTS examine the recent terror attacks in Berlin -- parsing predictable responses, likely fallout, and beyond.

And as the Obama Presidency draws to a close, an increasingly …

038 "Russian Hackers, Escalation and Those Damn Emails" - The Fifth Column

December 20th, 2016


Definitive accusations from the US intelligence community. Promises of reprisals from President Obama. A last ditch effort to sway Electoral College …

037 w/ Kennedy "Trump's All Conflicted, Russia's All Scary, POTUS is Black" - The Fifth Column

December 15th, 2016


In the final days of the Obama administration, many ‘journalos’ (pronounced: jurn-ah-lows) are producing fond remembrances of the outgoing administration while closely scrutinizing every (frequently confusing) move and …

036 "Fake News All The Way Down? The New Fred Phelps?" w/ Jimmy Failla, Jacob Siegel - The Fifth Column

December 9th, 2016


If a white nationalists speaks to a meager audience on a Texas campus, can any American avoid hearing about it? When Tomi tangles with Trevor on The Daily Show, does anyone really win? The answer to both of these …

035 w/ Glenn Garvin “Pissing on Fidel Castro's Grave, Jill Stein's Recount, and Trump's Tweets" - The Fifth Column

December 1st, 2016


“Fidel Castro dead, y’all!” Revolutionary, Dictator, Monster and... Human Rights Champion!? No seriously, some idiot wrote that, and worse besides. …

034 “White Nationalism: The Musical, Bogus News, Yeezus" - The Fifth Column

November 22nd, 2016


A Hamilltonian dressing down for the Vice President Elect? A White Nationalist Confrence in the Nations Capital? Sure -- it's almost Thanksgiving, but before digging into the Turkey, stuffing and cranbary sause -- we …

033 w/ Kat Timpf “The Passion of Steve Bannon, Ditching the Press Pool, Lebron's Posse" - The Fifth Column

November 18th, 2016


What do you do after a media apperance in Midtown Manhattan. If you answered, "Eat Ground Beef with Friends" -- you've probably been drinking with …

032 w/ Andrew Schulz “President Trump: Worst Tuesday Ever?" - The Fifth Column

November 11th, 2016


The election is finally over, and Donald Trump is President Elect of the United States... "What the hell happend!?" This weighty audio dispatch may help sort out a few things. Moyhinan, Welch and Foster are reunited. …

031 "Weld Says What?, Trump Not At Fault For KKK Support, and Kmele Calls In From Easter Island" - The Fifth Column

November 3rd, 2016


This week, Hollywood Mike Moynihan deigns to rejoin the Troika of Truth in our last podcast before Election 2016 is dumped on our heads like a sack …

030 w/ Andrew Schulz “Lead Paint, Black Jeopardy, and Netflix & Mass Incarceration" - The Fifth Column

October 26th, 2016


This week, comedian Andrew Schulz (, The Brilliant Idiots Podcast) stops by, Moynihan is a no show, and things get out of …

029 “Pre Debate Jitters, And There's Just Something About Mosul” - The Fifth Column

October 19th, 2016


We selected some stories, organized them in a thoughtful way -- and even developed a few punchy segways. But we didn't do much with any of that...

On …

028 “Billy Bush: The Real Victim Here, Avoiding World War III" - The Fifth Column

October 13th, 2016


Moynihan watches the presidential debate with his old pal Glenn Beck. Donald Trump doesn't understand how handshakes work at all. Hillary Clinton …

027 w/ Gary Johnson “Presidential Long Shots, VP Debates," - The Fifth Column

October 6th, 2016


2016 Libertarian Party Presidential Hopeful Gary Johnson Swings By.

We talk Vice Presidential Debates, Aleppo, Foreign Policy, BLM and the Era of …

026 "Kmele's STILL an Uncle Tom, and Yet Another Aleppo Moment" - The Fifth Column

September 30th, 2016


Near the tail end of the recording, Moynihan pronounced this the best show we've ever done..." Perhaps so.

What we can say for sure about this weeks installment of The Fifth: 1) We lost track of time, 2) Much wine was …

025 w/ Josh Zepps "Wild Speculation on Tulsa, Terrorism and Denzel" - The Fifth Column

September 21st, 2016


The triumvirate has much to discuss after a weekend disrupted by terror attacks in several states and yet another high profile police shooting. Media …

024 "A Deplorable Basket of Aleppo, Hacked Email and Conspiracy Theories" - The Fifth Column

September 15th, 2016


We had to MacGyver the hell out of this weeks dispatch. It's almost as if someone was trying to stop us... (Just asking questions here). Aleppo, Baskets of 'Deplorables', More Hacked Emails, Hillary's Flu-Ghazi... or is …

023 w/ Andrew Kirell "Trump's Mexican Day trip, Hillary's Alt-Right Syndrome" - The Fifth Column

September 1st, 2016


Colin Kaepernick rides the pine (which makes sense on many levels). Donald Trump visits Mexico. Hillary Clinton squares off with the AltRight. A few …

022 w/ Buck Sexton "NSA Hacks, The ISIS Blame Game" - The Fifth Column

August 25th, 2016


When Buck Sexton sits in for the hour there's a good chance the conversation will turn to foreign policy. As it turns out, that's exactly what …

021 w/ Michael Malice "The Best-Worst Case for Trump/Hillary, Charter Schools are Super Racist" - The Fifth Column

August 18th, 2016


Moynihan is off this week, appears he had obligations related to something he's describing as "his real job". We don't know what that's supposed to mean but it sounds illegal. Author and Observer …

020 "Olympic Twerking, Obama's Drone War Playbook, The Clinton Foundation, Ferguson: Two Years Later" - The Fifth Column

August 11th, 2016


Episode 20: The most discursive and 'intrupty' installment to date, but never worry, they always stick that landing (that's an Olympics reference).

This Week: - Obligatory Olympics Banter- Malia Obama twerks and tokes …

019 "How to Survive a Nuclear Holocaust, Welch-splaining Nato, Kmele's BLM Dust Up " - The Fifth Column

August 4th, 2016


The Conventions are over, Welch, Moynihan and Foster are back in Gotham and it feels like Autumn in August.

Still, Trump related anxieties have managed to reach new levels of 'OH-MY-GOD'; will his ascension to the …

018 "The DNC Takes Philly , Ted Cruz's Dad Takes Grassy Knoll" - The Fifth Column (Updated)

July 27th, 2016

The Fifth Column's presidential convention coverage continues. Matt Welch phones in from the convention floor in Philadelphia, Moynihan convalesces …

017 "A Very Trump Convention, Ted Cruz Jujitsu" - The Fifth Column

July 21st, 2016


Welch and Moynihan from the Floor of the RNC Convention... What could possibly go wrong?

No more description. You listen, you find out!

016 "Rumors of Race Wars and POTUS's Solipsistic Eulogy" - The Fifth Column

July 13th, 2016

A trifecta of highly charged police involved shootings dominate the headlines; what are the odds that resulting media coverage and political rhetoric …

015 "Trump’s Star, Hillary’s Email, Jonah Lehrer’s Comeback" - The Fifth Column

July 7th, 2016


What is Kmele hiding in Greece? Why is Donald Trump taking advantage of Hillary Clinton’s email lawbreaking by doubling down on the Star of David? And what on earth is the man who contributed to the downfall of …

014 w/ Virgina Postrel "Brexit, Benghazi, The BET Awards" - The Fifth Column

June 29th, 2016


What does your dimwitted brother-in-law actually know about Brexit? What actual difference does this Benghazi report make? And finally, will the well monied and influential attendees of the Black Entertainment …

013 "Islamic [REDACTED] and OJ Simpson: Trial of the Millennium" - The Fifth Column

June 22nd, 2016


What's the most [REDACTED] ever to [REDACTED]? Can someone really be 'completely brilliant' and 'wrong about virtually everything'? Will we ever get tired of talk'n bout OJ? In a baseball cap and shorts, is Matt the …

012 "Terrorism, Gun Control and Magical Thinking” - The Fifth Column

June 14th, 2016

What do Harry Potter, Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton have in common? Is it still 'politicizing the tragedy' if everyone's doing it?


When responding …

011 w/ Anthony Fisher “Penultimate Primary, Shut Up Racist and Remembering Ali” - The Fifth Column

June 9th, 2016

What the hell happened to Matt? How awful was Bernie Sanders week and why does he hate women? Why you got to be all racist?


Foster, Welch and …

010 w/ Thaddeus Russell "The Strip Tease Convention, #MehTrump and Russell v Moynihan” - The Fifth Column

June 2nd, 2016

Will Johnson & Weld make it to the presidential debate stage? Just who is this French fellow -- is he really running for POTUS and why's he omitting all the best bits from his Game of Thrones write-ups?


Is there any …

009 "Bernie Sanders: Arsonist, Freddie Gray & The Matter of Black Lives” - The Fifth Column

May 25th, 2016

Trump and Sanders carry populist revolutions to their respective conventions; will violence ensue? Are we witnessing the end of the culture wars? …

008 "Electoral Drive By, Getting Venezuela Entirely Wrong, Backhanded Endorsement” - The Fifth Column

May 18th, 2016


If you hurriedly discuss the primary race will it end any faster? If you'd previously maintained that an economic miracle was unfolding in Venezuela, …

007 w/ Charles C.W. Cooke "Fight Club Theoretics, Coates Can't Go Home Again” - The Fifth Column

May 11th, 2016


Would Tyler Durden vote for candidate Trump? Why can't super rich authors have everything they want? Is "Cookie's" accent wonderful or fantastic?

006 "Primary Precognition, Panic at the WHCD” - The Fifth Column

May 4th, 2016


Might a Trump primary victory signal the 'end of days' while simultaneously proving the existence of extraterrestrials? Can independents finally make …

005 w/ Andy Levy “Never Ending Primary, The Trump Doctrine, Occam's Razor” - The Fifth Column

April 29th, 2016


Trump and Hillary cement their leads but no one's willing to get out of the race; why won't anyone make it stop? How is Donald Trump's foreign policy …

004 “POTUS in Arabia, Creating A Drug Free World” - The Fifth Column

April 21st, 2016


Has the New York primary finally closed the door on Cruz, Sanders and Kasich? Should a voter who asks politely be allowed more than one ‘I Voted …

003 “Clinton vs Sanders, Incarcerating Climate Skeptics and Police Shooting Stats in Chicago” - The Fifth Column

April 15th, 2016


Sanders and Clinton debate on a dock in Brooklyn -- would any have noticed if CNN had just replayed clips of their previous showdowns? Is Gitmo too …

002 “Sanders, Panamanian Secrets and Cop Shoots Black Dude” - The Fifth Column

April 8th, 2016


This Week: Bernie Sanders gives an incoherent interview to the Daily News and simultaneously wins a critical presidential primary in Wisconsin; …

001 "Terrorism, Trump and OJ's Still Totally Innocent” - The Fifth Column

April 2nd, 2016


Surprise -- It's the first full episode of The Fifth Column (pardon our dust)!

This week; Media coverage (or lack thereof) of terrorism in the wake …
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