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The Derivative

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Welcome to The Derivative by RCM Alternatives, where we dive into what makes alternative investments go, analyze the strategies of unique hedge fund managers, and chat with interesting guests from across the investment world. Hosted by RCM Managing Partner, Jeff Malec, join us to take a ride through… read more


Attaining an Allocator's Edge with Phil Huber

This week is a cage match of a pod, going point/counterpoint on every Alt from private equity to fine art to digital assets with Phil Huber and the knowledge he’s about to drop in his upcoming new book ‘The Allocators Edge: A modern guide to alternative investments and the future of diversification’. Phil is the Chief Investment Officer at Savant Wealth Management. As a Chicago native, we talk with Phil about his start in investments with his interests in the family business from an RIA wealth management background and decided to sink his teeth in. We dive into his book talking about everything from how the actual writing of it went – to what’s being said in it – from the current issues with the 60/40 portfolio, his blog bps and pieces, why sometimes the juice isn’t worth the squeeze, the thin line between traditional and alternative portfolios, his periodic table of investments, reviewing a huge list of Alternative Investments, including private equity, real estate, fine art, digital assets, style premia, real assets, trend following, and more, the state of Indiana sports, 80’s-90’s pro wrestling,  and Chicago pizza. Join us on this interesting Alt-tastic ride as we dig into what really is an Alternative investment by cracking open that “Other” bucket on the client statements.


00:00-02:37 = Intro

02:38-13:30 = Family Ties & the Modern RIA playbook

13:31-24:40 = Blogs, Muses, and the Allocator’s Edge

24:41-32:51 = The Problems with the 60/40 portfolio in today’s world

32:52-46:15 = The Periodic Table of Investments

46:16-01:08:14 = Walking through a dozen Alternative Investments ALT by ALT

01:08:15-01:20:42 = Digital Assets, and How a Portfolio of Alts might Look

01:20:43-01:26:05 = Favorites

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Read Phil's blog bps and pieces: & Follow Phil on Twitter @bpsandpieces

Don't forget to subscribe to The Derivative, and follow us on Twitter at @rcmAltsand our host Jeff at @AttainCap2,  or LinkedIn , and Facebook, and sign-up for our blog digest.

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Disclaimer: This podcast is provided for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as legal, business, or tax advice. All opinions expressed by podcast participants are solely their own opinions and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of RCM Alternatives, their affiliates, or companies featured. Due to industry regulations, participants on this podcast are instructed not to make specific trade recommendations, nor reference past or potential profits. And listeners are reminded that managed futures, commodity trading, and other alternative investments are complex and carry a risk of substantial losses. As such, they are not suitable for all investors. For more information, visit

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