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The Derivative

111 EpisodesProduced by RCM AlternativesWebsite

Welcome to The Derivative by RCM Alternatives, where we dive into what makes alternative investments go, analyze the strategies of unique hedge fund managers, and chat with interesting guests from across the investment world. Hosted by RCM Managing Partner, Jeff Malec, join us to take a ride through… read more


Taming the Tails with LongTail Alpha’s Vineer Bhansali

Forget fat tails, left tails, even tall tales. We’re going into extracting value from long tails of the distribution on the pod in this episode. Vineer Bhansali is a 29-year industry veteran, previously at PIMCO, a Forbes columnist, author of four books on finance, and is currently the founder and CEO of longtail alpha. In today’s episode, we’re talking with Vineer about abstract physics = finance, what constitutes a tail event, negative yielding debt, identifying outlier risks, option-based trend following framework, bond temper tantrums, the start (& current work) of LongTail Alpha, is it the monetization is getting quicker = shorter lived or is it shorter lived = quicker monetization?, figuring out the known unknowns of market nature, and including asset prices in inflation.



02:24-17:33=Physics to Finance & Risky Recreation

17:34-35:06=Action in the Tails


42:10-58:38=Negative Yield & Debt – How it Could End

58:39-01:12:06=Inflation Protection & Identifying Future Tail Events


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Buy Vineer’s books here.

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Disclaimer: This podcast is provided for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as legal, business, or tax advice. All opinions expressed by podcast participants are solely their own opinions and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of RCM Alternatives, their affiliates, or companies featured. Due to industry regulations, participants on this podcast are instructed not to make specific trade recommendations, nor reference past or potential profits. And listeners are reminded that managed futures, commodity trading, and other alternative investments are complex and carry a risk of substantial losses. As such, they are not suitable for all investors. For more information, visit

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