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The Derivative

111 EpisodesProduced by RCM AlternativesWebsite

Welcome to The Derivative by RCM Alternatives, where we dive into what makes alternative investments go, analyze the strategies of unique hedge fund managers, and chat with interesting guests from across the investment world. Hosted by RCM Managing Partner, Jeff Malec, join us to take a ride through… read more


Really? Real Estate? Right Now? with Matt Lasky and Darren Kottle

Many investors look at commercial real estate as a high-risk, confusing, and sometimes scary way to invest. Our guests today show us why this isn’t the case. From commercial real estate, to mortgage-backed securities, pandemic affects, and hedging risk, Matt Lasky of Equity LLC and Darren Kottle of Caddo Capital Management are on today to go through it all. Take a listen to learn more about private investments, hedging real estate with trading models, mortgage-backed securities, favorite investing books, levels of leverage, basic income effects on real estate, real estate debt, yield solo, deflationary periods, Maple & Ash, hedging fixed income, negative rates but not negative mortgages?, the future of large retail real estate, eating in the East Bay, and pandemic effects on future of real estate & mortgages.


00:00-02:37 = Intro

02:31-27:23 = The current state of Real Estate and Lasting Effects of the Pandemic

27:24-40:40 = Is Another Stimulus underway? Inflation vs Deflation

40:41-48:23 = Malls: Quality of the Dirt

48:24-01:02:04 = The Ultimate Real Estate Hedge = Having Volatility Model

01:02:05-01:08:04 = Favorites

Follow along with Matt on LinkedIn, Twitter, and the Equity LLC website.

Follow along with Darren on LinkedIn or click here to learn more about Caddo Capital Management’s ACXIX fund.

And last but not least, don't forget to subscribe to The Derivative, and follow us on Twitter, or LinkedIn, and Facebook, and sign-up for our blog digest.

Disclaimer: This podcast is provided for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as legal, business, or tax advice. All opinions expressed by podcast participants are solely their own opinions and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of RCM Alternatives, their affiliates, or companies featured. Due to industry regulations, participants on this podcast are instructed not to make specific trade recommendations, nor reference past or potential profits. And listeners are reminded that managed futures, commodity trading, and other alternative investments are complex and carry a risk of substantial losses. As such, they are not suitable for all investors. For more information, visit

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