Cover art for podcast The Derivative

The Derivative

111 EpisodesProduced by RCM AlternativesWebsite

Welcome to The Derivative by RCM Alternatives, where we dive into what makes alternative investments go, analyze the strategies of unique hedge fund managers, and chat with interesting guests from across the investment world. Hosted by RCM Managing Partner, Jeff Malec, join us to take a ride through… read more


Charting a Chinese Commodities Course with Fred Schutzman of Abingdon Global

What do you do when trends stop appearing for the quarter of a billion dollars you manage? Where do you go to find markets like the ‘good old days’ for trend following? Our guest for this episode, Abingdon Global’s Fred Schutzman is in a unique position to answer those questions – and much more!

Listen to Fred share his background being a Chartist, working at CRB, why technical analysts have holes in their shoes, how easy it seemed to find successful trend models 20 years ago, the rise and fall of Briarwood, sleepless nights with a quarter of a billion on the line, why 10,000 trades are better than 1000, why 3 models are better than 1, and thoughts on Queens, Acid, Coke, Iron Ore, gaining exposure to China, to inflation, to dollar weakness, the perfect NY slice, and eating his own (Chinese) cooking.



02:30-29:37= Technical Analysis = Holes in Your Shoes

29:38-39:29= Trend Following Tigers Changing their Stripes

39:30-59:06= Deep Chinese Markets, Acid, & 10,000 Trades

59:07-01:31:31= The Model, Magic Darts, and Eating your own Cooking

From this Episode:

Listen to the previous podcast with Fred Schutzman here: Trading Chinese Futures Markets with Abingdon Global

Listen or Watch Modeling Markets and Accessing AI with Robert Rotella and Jag Prakasam

Listen or Watch Asian Markets, American Investments, & Accessing (Chinese) Futures with Alvin Fan of OPIM

For more information on accessing China markets, contact Matt Bradbard at RCM (312.870.1653)

Don't forget to subscribe to The Derivative, and follow us on Twitter at @rcmAlts and our host Jeff at @AttainCap2,  or LinkedIn , and Facebook, and sign-up for our blog digest.

And visit our sponsor, the CME Group at to learn more about futures and options.

Disclaimer: This podcast is provided for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as legal, business, or tax advice. All opinions expressed by podcast participants are solely their own opinions and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of RCM Alternatives, their affiliates, or companies featured. Due to industry regulations, participants on this podcast are instructed not to make specific trade recommendations, nor reference past or potential profits. And listeners are reminded that managed futures, commodity trading, and other alternative investments are complex and carry a risk of substantial losses. As such, they are not suitable for all investors. For more information, visit

Educational emoji reaction


Interesting emoji reaction


Funny emoji reaction


Agree emoji reaction


Love emoji reaction


Wow emoji reaction


Are you the creator of this podcast?

Verify your account

and pick the featured episodes for your show.

Listen to The Derivative


A free podcast app for iPhone and Android

  • User-created playlists and collections
  • Download episodes while on WiFi to listen without using mobile data
  • Stream podcast episodes without waiting for a download
  • Queue episodes to create a personal continuous playlist
RadioPublic on iOS and Android
Or by RSS
RSS feed

Connect with listeners

Podcasters use the RadioPublic listener relationship platform to build lasting connections with fans

Yes, let's begin connecting
Browser window

Find new listeners

  • A dedicated website for your podcast
  • Web embed players designed to convert visitors to listeners in the RadioPublic apps for iPhone and Android
Clicking mouse cursor

Understand your audience

  • Capture listener activity with affinity scores
  • Measure your promotional campaigns and integrate with Google and Facebook analytics
Graph of increasing value

Engage your fanbase

  • Deliver timely Calls To Action, including email acquistion for your mailing list
  • Share exactly the right moment in an episode via text, email, and social media
Icon of cellphone with money

Make money

  • Tip and transfer funds directly to podcastsers
  • Earn money for qualified plays in the RadioPublic apps with Paid Listens