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The Derivative

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Welcome to The Derivative by RCM Alternatives, where we dive into what makes alternative investments go, analyze the strategies of unique hedge fund managers, and chat with interesting guests from across the investment world. Hosted by RCM Managing Partner, Jeff Malec, join us to take a ride through… read more

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Protecting the Portfolio not with Long Vol, but with Long Gamma, with Convexitas

January 27th, 2022


When in Rome do as the Romans do?...Did they have convexity? They had the word, convexitas, and in this episode, we are joined by not one, but …

Talking Tech, VC, eSports, Uranium, Bitcoin & more with Dr. Chris Dark

January 20th, 2022


Now we’re cooking! We’re turning up the heat and bringing an abundance of flavor in this episode with a special guest who discusses venture capital, working capital, adds in a dash of e-sports and computer games, and …

Emissions Trading and Carbon Allowance Futures with Michael Azlen

January 13th, 2022


We're taking a trip across the pond to London in this episode and diving into the carbon markets and emissions trading with Michael Azlen, CEO and founder of Carbon Cap Fund and Management. Whether you care about making …

2021's Vol moves, 2022's outlook, Meme stocks, Option Flows and KAI with Cem Karsan

January 6th, 2022


We're kickstarting the 2022 season of The Derivative with fan-favorite - Cem Karsan. In this episode, the FinTwit star better known as @jamcroissant

The Bitcoin ETF parade and Grayscale Trust, with Jason Urban of Galaxy Digital

November 20th, 2021


Join us in this, our last episode of the year, where we’re talking Crypto and Bitcoin ETFs with Jason Urban, Global Co-Head of Trading at Galaxy …

A Multi PM (Global) Macro Masterclass with Markian Zyga

November 13th, 2021


In this episode, we shed some light on one of the largest groups you’ve maybe never heard of, whose new “mission” is to seek out incredible trading …

Attaining an Allocator's Edge with Phil Huber

November 4th, 2021


This week is a cage match of a pod, going point/counterpoint on every Alt from private equity to fine art to digital assets with Phil Huber and the knowledge he’s about to drop in his upcoming new book ‘The Allocators …

Convex (CONVX) to the Core with Certeza’s Brett Nelson

October 28th, 2021


In this episode, we sit down again with one of the OGs of VIX futures trading & options, Brett Nelson, CEO of Certeza Asset Management, and discuss their new mutual fund — Convex Core and how it relates to their …

Weigh More than You Wanted to Know About Meat, with AgriTrend’s Simon Quilty

October 14th, 2021


In this week's pod, we're doing something new and digging into the derivative market's Ag roots in our first "Way more than you need to Know" series, starting with the Global Meat Markets. Joining us today discussing …

Reimagining Risk and Reinsurance (& Cat Bonds) with Chris McKeown of Vantage Risk

October 7th, 2021


We’re looking into the far reaches of the search for yield in this episode, diving into investors’ interest in so-called Cat Bonds, or catastrophe bonds, and the world of reinsurance and ILS (insurance-linked …

Why Whales Tails Whip Up Market Tremors with Hari Krishnan

September 30th, 2021


How do large delta hedging flows of market makers tie in with Central Bank quantitative easing? How do ETF rebalancing’s and structured note issuer movements shift markets? We sit down with options guru Hari Krishnan …

Blissfully Buying BB Bonds with Greg Obenshain of Verdad Capital

September 23rd, 2021


In this episode, we're stepping away from our ordinary world of futures and options to find out why boring old corporate bonds aren't all that boring …

Researching the Risks of Return Stacking with Corey Hoffstein & Rodrigo Gordillo

September 16th, 2021


Jeff is “stacking” two guests in this episode, welcoming 1. Corey Hoffstein, CIO and co-founder of Newfound Research, host of Flirting with Models Podcast, and co-conspirator on the Pirates of Finance YouTube channel; …

Digging Deep into ETFs with Davie Nadig of ETF Trends

September 9th, 2021


How is the ETF sausage made? Who creates the filling? The casing? Who buys it at the store? What other meat is it replacing?  We dig into all these tasty morsels and more with this episode’s guest – the ETF expert Dave …

Options to Trend Following, and Back Again with Scot Billington of Covenant Cap.

September 2nd, 2021


We jump back into some VIX and Volatility discussion with this week’s episode but also get to talk about trend following’s rise and fall (and rise …

Valuations….Are you F*&^ing Insane, with Howard Lindzon

August 26th, 2021


Our guest this episode is surely not a stranger to our listeners, with his voice reaching far and wide via StockTwits, the Panic with Friends podcast, his ever-changing Twitter handle (currently Metaverse Lindzon) and …

Charting a Chinese Commodities Course with Fred Schutzman of Abingdon Global

August 19th, 2021


What do you do when trends stop appearing for the quarter of a billion dollars you manage? Where do you go to find markets like the ‘good old days’ …

BITFD & Wake the F Up with Ben Hunt of Epsilon Theory

August 12th, 2021


Over 100,000 investors in 180 countries listen to Ben Hunt, founder of Second Foundation Partners and the Epsilon Theory blog, debunk the latest narrative machines in each of his opus-like post. So with Covid cases …

Behind the Buffered Notes Bonanza With Joe Halpern of Exceed Investments

August 5th, 2021


Who hasn’t been pitched a buffered note at this point? Participate in the upside and get credited back the first 10% in losses. What could go wrong? …

"Maybe I’m the Retail Idiot" with Bill Brewster

July 29th, 2021


Dive into this fun chat with the equally irreverent and intelligent Bill Brewster, the self-made value investor in the style of Warren Buffet who dishes on twitter @BillBrewsterSCG hosts the Business Brew podcast in his …

Teams of Options to Tackle the Tails with Jerry Haworth of 36 South

July 22nd, 2021


We’re excited to have one of the pioneers of options trading on this episode, Jerry Haworth -  Founder and CIO of renowned option and tail risk firm 36 South. In this wide-ranging talk, we dive into Jerry’s roots in …

The Kaoboy of Convertible Arb with Michael Kao

July 15th, 2021


Saddle up everybody, because we’ve got the UrbanKaoboy on this episode, who’s ridden everything from ponies to draft horses to mustangs over his 30+ years in the investment game, doing commodities and derivatives at …

Engineering, Exponentials, Enigmas, and Equations with Breaking the Market’s Matt Hollerbach

July 8th, 2021


What is it about engineers and seeing the world through a quant lens?  We’ve talked to plenty of quants who have an engineering mindset; but this episode’s guest is an actual engineer – doing his mechanical engineering …

The Kid who Kaptures Kurtosis with Kris Sidial of Ambrus Group

July 1st, 2021


Our guest this episode has quickly become one of the must follows on FinTwit with his mixture of motivational messaging and market savvy. Kris Sidial …

Tis This Inflation Transitory with CME Group Economist Erik Norland

June 24th, 2021


There’s a new word in the financial lexicon. Transitory. And it all has to do with whether recent moves higher in prices of everything from lumber to copper to labor are the first signs of 1970s type inflation, or….as …

Sowing the Seeds of AI Strategies with Howard Siow of Taaffeite Capital Management

June 17th, 2021


Artificial Intelligence is a hot topic in every walk of life, and perhaps no more so than in the world of hedge funds and alternative investments. Howard Siow, Founding Principal and CEO at Taaffeite Capital, joins The …

Carefully Constructing a Cockroach (portfolio) with Mutiny Funds Jason Buck and Taylor Pearson

June 10th, 2021


Who in their right mind would name an investment strategy after cockroaches?  Well, probably the guys who view themselves as staging a mutiny against …

Blame it on the Bossa Nova with New Market Wizard Tom Basso

May 27th, 2021


How do you get included in a Market Wizards book? How do you get a whole Michael Covel book written about you? You move from charting markets on …

WTF ^%$# is Happening With Crypto??

May 20th, 2021


We’re talking with two ‘in the crypto weeds’ traders/asset managers, Ben Upward of Synchronicity and Gary Basin, about crypto’s -30% one day drop, coinbase, the most surprising (& scariest) things about the recent …

Allocating Assets and Attracting Allocators with Ted Seides

May 13th, 2021


From actual capital allocator to branding his book and podcast “Capital Allocator,” Ted Seides has one of the biggest banks of knowledge in the capital allocation game. He’s a well-known author of two books, host of the …

The NON-Wisdom of Crowds with Nigol Koulajian of Quest Partners

May 6th, 2021


In through the nose – out through the mouth. In through the nose – out through the mouth.

You’ve now joined a headspace where we think you’re prepped to focus in and become one with today’s guest. He’s a well known CTA, …

Turning the Tables: Trading Pits and Dip Spits with RCM’s Jeff Malec

April 29th, 2021


Today’s guest is one you’ve heard many times before if you’ve listened to The Derivative,  but may not necessarily know all that well. He’s and alts/managed futures veteran, having started his career in Chicago’s famed …

A Crude Oil Cornucopia: Covid, Crack, CSOs & Contango with Brent Belote of Cayler Capital

April 22nd, 2021


COVID affected a lot of ways that we interacted with the world – it changed how we worked, how we socialized, how we entertained ourselves….and if you’ve been tuned into the markets over the past year, it also changed …

Yep, She's Opening Up Option Eyes with NOPE It's Lily

April 15th, 2021


*We apologize for potential audio issues with this episode – please see the transcript HERE or go to the episode blog on to download.*

Asian Markets, American Investments, & Accessing (Chinese) Futures with Alvin Fan of OPIM

April 8th, 2021


We’ve said it before and we’ll say it again – the opportunities in the Asian investment landscape are nuanced, emerging, and incredibly attractive. But on top of the excitement around the opportunities, there’s also …

eSports, ETFs, and Enormous Deals with the Sports Pomp, Joe Pompliano

April 1st, 2021


The world of sports and finance have continually meshed together – and the Covid-19 pandemic has fast tracked that even further. Between the growth of analytics, to financiers making their way into the pro sports arena, …

Making Market Music with Roy Niederhoffer with Roy Niederhoffer

March 25th, 2021


How many families have two brothers who’ve been in the hedge fund game for 30+ years, much less on polar opposites of the long vol/short vol …

Modeling Markets and Accessing AI with Robert Rotella and Jag Prakasam

March 18th, 2021


When you hear news about artificial intelligence (AI), it might be easy to assume it has nothing to do with you. But if you use face recognition on your phone? Check. Google auto-fills your search bar? Check. And …

Taming the Tails with LongTail Alpha’s Vineer Bhansali

March 11th, 2021


Forget fat tails, left tails, even tall tales. We’re going into extracting value from long tails of the distribution on the pod in this episode. Vineer Bhansali is a 29-year industry veteran, previously at PIMCO, a …

Crazy Commodity Cycles (and cross-continent motorcycles) with Jim Rogers

March 4th, 2021


The king of Commodities has entered The Derivative ring. You know his name, you’ve read his books, you’ve probably utilized his index, and now you’re listening to him in this most recent podcast episode. Jim Rogers is …

The VOLvengers: Wayne Himelsein (Iron Man) & Mike Green (Captain America)

February 25th, 2021


We’re bringing out the cake & ice cream for this pod because it’s The Derivative’s 1 year anniversary! If you’ve been with us since the beginning – you may fondly remember our inaugural episode The Human Behind The …

Playing like a Poker Pro in Life/Investments/Career with Chris Sparks

February 18th, 2021


Talking this week with Poker Pro Chris Sparks on everything from game strategy to deciphering A.I. capabilities and catching bots. With Founder, CEO, and Performance Coach of The Forcing Function we’re taking it back to …

Vol - Benn There, Done That with Benn Eifert of QVR Advisors

February 11th, 2021


Why can't vol managers tell good jokes? Bad timing? Buh dum tsss.
All jokes aside, we’re excited to be back talking Volatility on The Derivative with …

The Bull and Bear Cases for Bitcoin with Meltem Demirors & Nic Carter

February 5th, 2021


Bitcoin started the year with a bang, rising up above $41k before falling back into the 20ks, and settling in the mid 30ks lately. It was at $5k in …

Wallstreet Bets Busts Wallstreet? WTF ^%$#

January 28th, 2021


If you’ve been on the internet, watched TV, or talked to anyone outside of yourself in the past week and a half you can’t have missed it. GameStop stock ($GME) went from trading at a low of $3/share to +$400/share …

Wisdom from the Wizard Maker with Jack Schwager

January 21st, 2021


Welcome to the Wizarding World of Market Wizards – and today’s special guest is head wizard who wrote the actual books on market wizards, Jack Schwager. Jack has written 6 books on the markets including his original:

Gold, Gas, and Global Inflation with Diego Parrilla of Quadriga Asset Managers

January 14th, 2021


2020 was ruled by global macro events – are we looking at the same fate in 2021? Our guest today can talk not only global macro, but also volatility, …

Butler and Buck Back to Bookend 2020

December 30th, 2020


We’ve already covered the first three months of 2020 with Part I of our 2020 review. We’re now heading into Part II with Jason Buck, CIO at Mutiny …

2020’s Best Strategies, Styles, and Stories with Adam Butler and Jason Buck

December 23rd, 2020


2020 has been a year for the books – be it the fastest every market sell-off or a just as amazing tech rally from the lows. Whether you’re looking at it from a social/emotional/fiscal lens, it probably didn’t pan out …

Cover to Trend Legends Cover with Michael Covel

December 10th, 2020


It’s hard to get too far into the words Trend Following without running into the name Michael Covel. If you’ve ever looked into the strategy type, …

Really? Real Estate? Right Now? with Matt Lasky and Darren Kottle

December 3rd, 2020


Many investors look at commercial real estate as a high-risk, confusing, and sometimes scary way to invest. Our guests today show us why this isn’t the case. From commercial real estate, to mortgage-backed securities, …

Overheard at a Vol Conference, breaking down EQD Global 2020

November 27th, 2020


One of the leading volatility trading and derivatives investing events of the year wrapped up last month and we have lots of thoughts. From new vol …

The Mysteries and Makings of Machine Learning with Dr. Ernie Chan of QTS Cap

November 19th, 2020


Does all this Machine Learning stuff really work? If it’s so good, why aren’t AI powered hedge funds printing money? And what is the difference between AI, machine learning, deep learning, machine trading, and more. …

Don’t Buy the Narrative (and It’s All Narrative) with Epsilon Theory’s Ben Hunt

November 12th, 2020


Our guest today is somewhat of a modern philosopher, mapping out how the investing world sees the real world, while at the same time questioning his own place in that world and how he can change it for the better. Ben …

No President Yet, So Market Rallies Huge What ^%$#?

November 5th, 2020


Votes are being counted, CNN and Fox are on 24-hour reporting cycles, and Tweets/FB Posts/Texts are still being sent out at lightening speeds. What happens if a winner isn’t announced for 2 or more days? What happens if …

Who Would Want to SELL Options, with Mark Adams of Warrington Asset Management

October 29th, 2020


For every option buyer, there is a seller. The brave souls who are accused of picking up pennies in front of a freight train. But are they dumb? …

Debunking Trend Following’s Dead Theories with Kathryn Kaminski

October 22nd, 2020


Is trend following too big? Can managed futures do it without the bond tailwind they’ve had for 30 years? Does globalization take away …

Vol Curves and Vanna Charm with Cem Karsan

October 15th, 2020


Today’s pod is all about word play playing into alternative investment. How does Jam Croissant relate to Cem Karsan? What about Vanna Charm and …

Super Storms, Mathematical Modeling, and Hurricane Hunting with Dr. Jeff Masters

October 8th, 2020


With storms named Gamma and Delta making their way to US shores – we really couldn’t have timed this release better from a …

Bull Markets, Behavioral Biases, and Blogs with Baird’s Michael Antonelli

October 1st, 2020


If men are from Mars and women from Venus, it often feels like stock/bond investors are from Earth and us Alternative Investment folks are from …

Sequencing, Skew, and (Option) Strikes with Hari Krishnan

September 24th, 2020


We’re joined by option guru and author of ‘The Second Leg Down’ in this episode to talk through the real-time test of market crashes and volatility …

A Professor, Prop Trader, & Risk Manager walk into a bar, with Victor Canto

September 17th, 2020


The “bar” we walk into in this episode is one that specializes in blending the unique flavors of beta and alpha, and our mixologists are Victor …

Market Up/Vol Up, Market Down/Vol Down…WTF Episode

September 10th, 2020


So – what’s happening in the wide world of volatility? The market moved to new all time highs and the VIX actually went UP. The market then …

Canadian Commodities and Building Business with Tim Pickering of Auspice Capital Advisors

September 3rd, 2020


In today’s episode we’re pushing the boundaries of traditional alternative investments and getting into oil trading, trend following, and taking …

Straddles, SVXY, and (Gamma) Scalping with Logica’s Mike Green

August 27th, 2020


With a Top Gun-like bio of working with billionaires and big hedge funds, Michael Green is one of the top prospects in the alternative investment game. BUT, all we hear him talking about these days is his passive …

Expect the Expected and Control the Controllable with Russ Rausch of Vision Pursue

August 20th, 2020


We’re leaving the fire of hedge funds and jumping headfirst into the frying pan of……performance mindset? Yep, from pro athletes to pro traders, everyone needs a performance mindset, and  today’s guest founded his firm …

Debt, Dollars, and Deficits with CME's Blu Putnam

August 13th, 2020


It’s a job all in itself to be able to look at data – especially data that affects all of us on a daily basis – and be able to interpret that to make sense to yourself. Take that and have to turn it into something that …

Trend Following Turtle Tails (and Tales) with Jerry Parker

August 6th, 2020


Legend time. We’re hearing straight from the mouth of well-known Turtle Trader – Jerry Parker – on this episode to talk all things trend following. …

Do Hedge Funds Suck? With Max Nissman, Olivier d’Assier, and Scott Treloar

July 30th, 2020


We sat down with three different legs of the hedge fund stool who (feeling the currently hedge fund investment landscape is a bit broker) are …

Seeking (VIX) Certainty with Certeza's Brett Nelson

July 23rd, 2020


In a #ThrowbackThursday of sorts, we’re bringing you an episode recorded pre-pandemic where we hit the road and traveled to Utah to interview the brain behind Certeza Asset Management, Founder and CIO – Brett Nelson. …

BLNDX[ing] Trend Following and Global Equity with Standpoint’s Eric Crittenden

July 16th, 2020


How do you get investors to stick with an asset allocation that’s good for them in the long term, but maybe doesn’t taste so good over shorter timer periods?  Today’s guest has designed a new mutual fund to attempt just …

Why Charts and What Data with Sean Brown of YCharts

July 9th, 2020


In today’s episode, we’re passing by all the players and calling in the head coach – the head coach of Ycharts that is. Sean Brown – CEO of Ycharts joins us to talk about how this FinTech SAAS focused company is helping …

5 Asia/China Focused Hedge Funds, 1 Podcast!

July 2nd, 2020


We recently wrapped up our virtual conference: “Capitalizing on China’s Growth: Opening the Door for Investors and Managers” where we had some great one-on-one interviews with hedge fund managers operating in Asia and …

$TVIX gets Terminated – What^%$#

June 25th, 2020


Similar to how we quickly grabbed some experts to discuss Crude Oil going negative, we grabbed some VIX experts as soon as the news hit this week …

Noodling on Ensembles, Trend, & Convexity with Newfound’s Corey Hoffstein

June 18th, 2020


Our guest today is the Co-founder & CEO of Newfound Research, host of the popular podcast Flirting with Models, and FinTwit “influencer” – Corey …

Allocating to Alts with RPMs Alexander Mende

June 11th, 2020


In this episode, we’re flipping the script of our usual hedge fund manager and drilling down on the allocation side. Alexander Mende is a Senior Investment Analyst and Head of Investment Research at RPM Risk and …

Navigating Market Volatility with CBOE’s Kevin Davitt, Wayne Himelsein of Logica Capital Advisers, Jason Buck of Mutiny Fund, and Bastian Bolesta of Deep Field Capital.

June 4th, 2020


In this episode, we’re joined by a powerhouse group of volatility experts consisting of Kevin Davitt, Wayne Himelsein, Jason Buck, and Bastian …

Black Swans, Gray Rhinos, and Tigers..Oh My with Michele Wucker

May 28th, 2020


The financial world seems to have a fascination with zoomorphism – the attribution of animal names, emotions, or intentions to non- animal occurrences like market shocks. Black Swans are the famous one, but there’s also …

Tagging a Value to Pro Sports Teams with Bob Reif and Josh Moscot of TAG

May 21st, 2020


70 days without sports – seems unbelievable, right? The COVID-19 pandemic has affected us all in more ways than one, and while no sports for 2+ months is at the top of the “first world problems” list, it’s a void left …

Uncovering the Known Unknowns of the Pandemic with Chief Economist Blu Putnam, ReSolve's Rodrigo Gordillo, and Teza's Dan Deering

May 14th, 2020


In today’s episode, we have a little different structure and three unique guests to bring a fresh twist on The Derivative podcast. Blu Putnam of the …

Tackling Trading Technologies and (lower case t) technology with Guy Scott of TT

May 7th, 2020


Futures traders take clicking a price to generate an order on their PCs for granted these days, much less the instant delivery of every tick, order book data, and trade fills. How’s it all work?  How did it all used to …

Texas Style Trend Following with Salem Abraham

April 30th, 2020


This episode’s guest, Salem Abraham, is a bit of a legend in the trend following/managed futures space, with his 30+ years of knowledge and …

Valuing VIX and Volatility with Joe Tigay

April 25th, 2020


VIX and volatility guru (who also sidelines as CBOE & CNBC contributor and an RIA and CFO) Joe Tigay is on our pod to share some nuggets of VIX …

Crude Oil goes Negative… What^%$#

April 21st, 2020


Yesterday was a historic day for crude……and the trend continues today. With crude oil going negative for the first time ever. That’s right – May …

Exchanging Intellectual Assets with $TAIL, $SYLD $GVAL ETF-icionado Meb Faber

April 17th, 2020


In this episode we chat with an ETF creator, financial book author, and host of the popular Meb Faber Show podcast. We're talking with Meb Faber …

The principles of VIX trading with Alex Orus of Principalium

April 9th, 2020


In this episode we're diving deep into VIX futures and using that instrument to gain convexity in a portfolio, we chat with Swiss hedge fund manager …

Trading Chinese Futures Markets with Abingdon Global

April 2nd, 2020


Chickity China the Chinese chicken futures. Between strict regulations, gated access, mainland-based employees, and more seemingly difficult …

Trading Commodity Volatility – A Woman’s Perspective

March 26th, 2020


Take a listen to our latest podcast to hear why we think trading in and out of different volatility regimes in the commodity markets “like a woman” …

Capturing the Global Sell-Off with Bastian Bolesta of Deep Field Capital

March 19th, 2020


This timely episode gets into just what kind of investment strategy you would have needed to have to capture the huge down move in markets recently …

Crypto & Bitcoin Lending with Tom Anderson of Drawbridge Lending

March 12th, 2020


A little different than our usual “hedge fund strategy manager” we chat with Tom Anderson – journalist turned trader turned broker turned entrepreneur – who is now President and Chairman of the Board at DrawBridge …

Asset Allocation, AI, and the Alpha Process with Resolve Asset Management

March 4th, 2020


We sit down with the three Canadian founders of Resolve Asset Management to talk zebras walking amongst horses, mid-frequency trading (move over …

Staging a Market Mutiny with Jason Buck and Taylor Pearson of Black Pearl

February 27th, 2020


In this episode exploring the many facets of long volatility and tail risk exposure, we pick the brains of the founders of the Mutiny investment …

Decoding Execution Algos with Joe Signorelli & David Don

February 4th, 2020


This episode dives deep into the math and people behind what most people take for granted or don’t even know they need to improve their trading – execution algorithms. We cover Orlando as a favorite vacation spot …

The Life of a Discretionary Trader with Breakout Funds’ Aaron Larkin & Matt Laviolette

February 4th, 2020


This fun conversation talks with two guys who have chosen a life of monitoring the markets on a near real-time basis, covering serious strategy …

Wayne Himelsein: The Human Behind the Hedge Fund

January 27th, 2020


Wayne Himelsein is a hedge fund manager, President, and Chief Investment Officer at Logica Capital Advisers. Beyond that Wayne is a 25-year veteran in the trading space, and we're talking about hedge funds, his …

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