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Tell Me What To Say with Drew Kugler

46 EpisodesProduced by Drew KuglerWebsite

Creating change that matters happens in conversations - with others AND yourself. In this series, noted executive coach Drew Kugler has conversations about, well, conversations. Through Drew's personal insights and interviews with thought leaders from all walks of life, you will learn about the uniq… read more

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How Are You?

February 8th, 2021


Drew Kugler and Ari Kaplan discuss the differences in how children and adults discuss their busy days, with a focus on how they answer the simple …

Dr. Michael Osterholm

January 21st, 2021


In November 2020, Dr. Osterholm was appointed to President Joe Biden's 13-member Transition COVID-19 Advisory Board. 

Dr. Osterholm is Regents …

The Five Frogs

January 19th, 2021


This episode explores one essential distinction we must make when pursuing real change. Think about where you spent your three hours in shock on January 6 - what have you done about what you've seen and felt since?

Dr. Andrea Ghez

January 12th, 2021


Dr. Andrea Ghez is an astronomer and professor in the Department of Physics and Astronomy at UCLA. In October of 2020, she became the fourth woman to be awarded the Nobel Prize in Physics for her discovery of a …

Building for Change

December 22nd, 2020


When something goes wrong, how quickly do you search for "tools" or a "blueprint" to fix it? Today, we explore how seeking to merely fix what's …

What's The Moral?

November 20th, 2020


It's easy to watch a news story and decide what we think of the characters involved. In this episode, I explore how we can better pause and learn the …

Shellye Archambeau

October 8th, 2020


What makes the best leaders? My guest today discusses the dedication to listening and caring she believes to be the cornerstone of true leadership. In a world that focuses so much on what people do, Shellye and I take …

Political Conversation

September 29th, 2020


How are your political conversations going these days? Not with people with whom you agree - I mean the ones with people whose views you can't even …

Mason Trinca

September 23rd, 2020


It's not just showing up to the scene and taking pictures. My guest this week discusses how he uses conversation to build trust and respect on the ground, even in the most dangerous and emotionally charged situations, …

Mark McKee

September 16th, 2020


How do you guide an organization and the people it serves through uncertainty? My guest today explains how his school uses its mission and values as …

Cancel Culture

September 10th, 2020


Forget where "Cancel Culture" shows up in the slog of news and media. Instead, think about where it shows up in your life. When is the last time you …

Keith Yamashita

August 28th, 2020


My guest this week discusses his life's work guiding companies through large-scale change, and how his personal journey recovering from a stroke has informed that work. I invite you to listen to Keith Yamashita's unique …

Living In A Zoom World

August 21st, 2020


As the virus grinds on, Zoom and such have entrenched themselves into all corners of connecting with others. On today's episode of TMWTS I offer my perspective on making the most you can of this pandemic necessity.

Meeting Feeling With Feeling

August 13th, 2020


On today's episode of Tell Me What To Say, I explore a persistent myth about how people change their behavior. We must rethink our urge to persuade with facts, and instead meet emotion with emotion.

Dr. Natasha Bhuyan

July 31st, 2020


My newest podcast with Dr. Natasha Bhuyan highlights the lifesaving impact deliberate conversations have in the medical field. I invite you to listen to how she and her teams employ a central pillar of Constructive …

Until It's Faced

July 12th, 2020


On today's episode of Tell Me What To Say, I offer Thoughts and suggestions on the demands on creating long term change. With so many more voices …

Bishop Kenneth Ulmer

June 25th, 2020


Bishop Kenneth Ulmer is the leader of Faithful Central Bible Church. He has studied at Pepperdine University, Hebrew Union College, the University of …

Peiman Raf A.C. (After Covid-19)

June 17th, 2020


Peiman Raf is Co-Founder and CEO of Madhappy, a luxury clothing brand that centers its messaging around mental health. Beyond creating products and brand imaging that resonates with consumers, Madhappy strives to reduce …

Peiman Raf B.C. (Before Covid-19)

June 17th, 2020


Peiman Raf is Co-Founder and CEO of Madhappy, a luxury clothing brand that centers it's messaging around mental health. Beyond creating products and brand imaging that resonates with consumers, Madhappy strives to …

The Power Of Pause

May 26th, 2020


Drew discusses one of the most common mistakes we make when interacting with others - we don't stop talking. Whether it's deliberately choosing when …

Sue Naegle

May 18th, 2020


Sue Naegle is the Chief Content Officer at Annapurna Pictures. Prior to that, she was President of HBO Entertainment, and was instrumental in shepherding such shows as Game of Thrones, Boardwalk Empire, True Blood, …

Tom Peters

May 7th, 2020


For over 40 years, the provocative voice of Tom Peters has been at the forefront of changing how we work and how we take care of one another. You can learn more about our guest today at

Rabbi Steve Leder

April 26th, 2020


Offering his unique blend of refreshing candor and spiritual intelligence, Rabbi Steve Leder weighs in on the challenges of guiding his congregation and himself through this pandemic. We talk fear, loss, and how this …

Seth Godin

May 2nd, 2018


Entrepreneur and best-selling author Seth Godin talks with Drew about the power of conversations to “turn lights on” and thereby illuminate the potential for positive change.

Nat Damon

April 17th, 2018


Educational consultant Nat Damon talks with Drew about six elements that excellent teachers incorporate in their classrooms; qualities that be …

Rabbi Sarah Bassin

April 5th, 2018


Rabbi Sarah Bassin talks with Drew about her work in fostering intercultural, interfaith conversations to bridge divides of perception and reframe …

Trishla Jain

March 26th, 2018


Trishla talks with Drew about her passion for meaningful conversations and the process that led to the design of a social experience, Gather …

Phil Rosenthal

March 14th, 2018


Phil Rosenthal, creator and of "Everybody Loves Raymond" and "Somebody Feed Phil" talks about his belief that sharing meals and laughter gets people to engage in better conversations.

Satya Nadella and Kathleen Hogan

March 5th, 2018


Microsoft's Satya Nadella and Kathleen Hogan talk with Drew about what it really takes to evolve a work culture and conversations that inspired …

Jeremy Bailenson

February 22nd, 2018


Virtual Reality authority and Stanford University researcher Jeremy Bailenson talks with Drew about the progressive and perilous aspects of this …

Bob Oswaks

February 8th, 2018


If you lost your job and were told that you were unemployable, what would you do? For today’s guest, former marketing executive Bob Oswaks, the …

Your Questions. My Answers.

January 25th, 2018


Drew answers listeners’ questions about corporate personality tests (not a fan), self-coaching, and the success that altruism can inspire.

Don Weaver

January 9th, 2018


Raise your glass and listen in as Don Weaver—Director of the world-renowned Harlan Estate—talks with Drew about the link between great wine and great conversations.

Drew Kugler

January 2nd, 2018


Drew begins to take questions from listeners that will be answered in upcoming episodes. He’ll apply his 32 years of coaching experience to the audience's communication problems at work, at home, and in the world. Let …

Rob Eshman

December 27th, 2017


Newspaper publisher, editor, and writer Rob Eshman says that writing is the most comfortable way for him to communicate with people. Yet Eshman, a self-described introvert, shares with Drew his realization that …

Peter Principato

December 12th, 2017


Knowing when to open your mouth and knowing when to shut it. That’s some of the communication advice offered by Peter Principato, President and CEO of Principato-Young Entertainment, in today’s frank and funny …

Randall Kline

December 5th, 2017


In today’s conversation, Randall Kline, the Executive Artistic Director and Founder of SFJAZZ, talks with Drew about his journey to create the renowned success that SFJAZZ has become. Randall discusses the lessons he’s …

Andrea Lieberman

November 28th, 2017


Drew talks with Andrea Lieberman, a stylist-turned-fashion designer and founder of her eponymous company, A.L.C. Their discussion begins with the …

Christopher Noxon

November 14th, 2017


A thought-provoking and fun conversation with journalist, author and illustrator Christopher Noxon. Topics include politics, religion, family and …

Rabbi Steven Leder

November 6th, 2017


Sr. Rabbi Steven Leder of the Wilshire Boulevard Temple in Los Angeles talks about journeys through physical and spiritual pain, and finding meaning …

Jessie Kornberg

October 30th, 2017


Drew talks with Jessie Kornberg, the President and CEO of Bet Tzedek, a community-based organization in Los Angeles that provides free legal services …

Lynsi Snyder-Ellingson

October 23rd, 2017


Who doesn't love In-N-Out Burger? In this podcast, the chain's CEO Lynsi Snyder-Ellingson opens up to Drew about the family business, family values, faith, and the counter-intuitive secret to the brand's success.

Daniel Pink

October 16th, 2017


NYT best-selling author Dan Pink joins TMWTS to talk with Drew about unanswerable questions, avoiding hard conversations, and how Pink's prolific …

Sheryl Sandberg

October 2nd, 2017


The inaugural episode of this podcast series is devoted to a conversation with Sheryl Sandberg. In addition to serving as the COO of Facebook, Sheryl is a renowned thought leader on life and the workplace. Our …

Dr. Atul Gawande

October 2nd, 2017


I often remind my clients that we're not always dealing with life and death; but I can't say that as you listen to Dr. Atul Gawande—surgeon, writer, …

Lena Waithe

October 2nd, 2017


Where does our belief that we can make a difference in the world come from? What kind of connection with others is necessary to create that difference in a unique way? A conversation with Lena Waithe, the first …

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