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#85 - Agile Recruiting: Hiring in a Complex and Uncertain World - Jens Olberding

“Today, employees want more autonomy, e.g. work-life balance and working from home, and at the same time, they want more social inclusion to get as many authentic insights into the company and the new job as possible."

Jens Olberding is the author of “Agile Recruiting” and an expert in agile HR management. In this episode, we opened our conversation discussing the great resignation trend and its underlying reasons. Jens then shared the concept of agile recruiting and explained how it is very much relevant to the latest changes in the current job landscape. He emphasized that recruiting should not only put focus just on the hiring departments’ needs but also equally on the candidates to understand better what they truly want from their career. Jens also shared a few recruiting best practices, such as getting the recruiting teams’ involvements in the recruitment process, building cross-functional teams, and the SuSiBOL interview technique that he shared towards the end to help in assessing candidates’ behaviors and competencies better.

Listen out for:

  • Career Journey - [00:06:00]
  • The Great Resignation - [00:07:33]
  • Agile Recruiting - [00:11:10]
  • What the Candidate Wants - [00:14:12]
  • Recruiting Team Involvement - [00:15:55]
  • Hire for Talent, Train for Skills - [00:18:50]
  • Cross-Functional Team - [00:20:24]
  • Assessing Potentials - [00:22:52]
  • Communication Among Equals - [00:24:23]
  • Preselection - [00:26:22]
  • Diversity of Experience - [00:30:51]
  • SuSiBOL Technique - [00:34:21]
  • Onboarding - [00:39:14]
  • Tech Lead Wisdom - [00:42:48]


Jens Olberding’s Bio
Jens Olberding is an expert in agile HR management and recruiting. He is a qualified organisational psychologist and has a Master’s degree in Human Resource Management. He is also a lecturer for diagnostics and recruitment and teaches methods for competence-based recruiting processes. His focus is on supporting agile transformations and the development of agile HR organisations in medium-sized companies. As a coach for leadership and transformation, he accompanies teams, leaders and organisations on their way to more agility.

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