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#108 - Building the Future of Cloud Engineering With Pulumi - Joe Duffy

“Companies that are successful in getting the most out of the cloud embrace the fact that distributed application architecture is a first class application architecture concern."

Joe Duffy is the co-founder and CEO of Pulumi. In this episode, we discussed cloud engineering concept and how Pulumi is helping to shape its future. Joe started by sharing his story founding Pulumi and the evolution of the cloud adoption. He shared his view on why cloud should be a first class application architecture concern and the concept of cloud as an operating system. Joe then shared in-depth the concept of cloud engineering as the next evolution of DevOps and explained how it changes the way we build, deploy, and manage infrastructure and application in the product development lifecycle. Towards the end, Joe shared his view on the future of cloud engineering and how Pulumi is helping organizations adopt cloud engineering at scale.

Listen out for:

  • Career Journey - [00:06:18]
  • Founding Pulumi - [00:11:05]
  • Cloud as First Class Concern - [00:13:00]
  • Cloud Engineering - [00:17:27]
  • Build Phase - [00:23:02]
  • Deploy Phase - [00:29:48]
  • Manage Phase - [00:35:43]
  • Infrastructure as Software - [00:38:32]
  • Future of Cloud Engineering - [00:43:11]
  • Pulumi Customer Story - [00:44:52]
  • 3 Tech Lead Wisdom - [00:46:30]


Joe Duffy’s Bio
Joe Duffy is co-founder and CEO of Pulumi. Prior to founding Pulumi, Joe was a longtime leader in Microsoft’s Developer Division, Operating Systems Group, and Microsoft Research. Most recently, he was Director of Engineering and Technical Strategy for developer tools, where part of his responsibilities included managing the groups building the C#, C++, Visual Basic, and F# languages. Joe was instrumental in taking .NET open source and cross-platform. Joe founded Pulumi in 2018 with Eric Rudder, the former Chief Technical Strategy Officer at Microsoft.

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