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System & Soul

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Welcome to System & Soul, the podcast for growth-minded leaders to strengthen the system and soul of their business to create breakthrough.Hosted by Chris White and Benj Miller.//formerly Tractionville™

178 Episodes | 2019 - 2021

S2 Tips: How Do You Build an Org. Chart?

September 23rd, 2021


Any organization that wants to operate with clarity needs to have a hierarchal structure. That’s Business 101. Perhaps the most popular way …

#021: Instilling a Culture of Personal Growth with Larry Dorfman

September 21st, 2021


When an organization wants their business to grow, they need to equip their people to grow first. That’s why we are stoked to invite Larry Dorfman, …

S2 Tips: Have a Moat Mindset

September 16th, 2021


Every business leader, no matter great they are, experiences ruts—or as Seth Godin calls them, dips—in their business. These dips can be discouraging, draining, and just down right not fun!

But as Godin says, don’t …

#020: The Culture Fix with Will Scott

September 14th, 2021


There is a big difference between what your company’s culture is and how it makes your people feel. Misaligning people with culture and vice versa …

S2 Tips: 5 Reasons Your Meetings Suck

September 9th, 2021


If you hate meetings, you’re doing them wrong. Great meetings create progress, alignment, clarity, and control in your business. But too many people …

#019: Leading in Crisis Through Human Connection with Scott Mann

September 7th, 2021


Before the pandemic, the workplace was increasingly becoming imbued with distraction, disengagement, and distrust. Unfortunately, the pandemic …

S2 Tips: The Law of Attraction

September 2nd, 2021


Let’s quit flirting with our dreams, and start committing to them. When we don’t take the time to get clarity on what we want for our business or in our life, we create a cloud of ambiguity over our journey getting …

#018: Deep Dive: The Art of Facilitation

August 31st, 2021


Meeting are the biggest opportunities in your business to get everyone rowing in the same direction. Meetings are necessary, but too often they miss the mark. That’s why great meetings need great facilitators––the …

S2 Tips: The Best Way to Build a Sales Team with Jeff Messner

August 26th, 2021


Many business start out as a sales-focused organization with a sales-focused leader. As the leader, it’s so important to understand the best practices and components of building a great sales team from the start.

In …

#017: Compassionate People Development with J. Quincy Evans

August 24th, 2021


If you’ve listened to any of our past episodes, you know that your business has a soul. And, the most important element of your business's soul is …

S2 Tips: The Seven Deadly Sins of Setting Objectives

August 19th, 2021


The whole point of setting your quarterly objectives is to achieve them! But sometimes businesses get lost in the process and create unhealthy habits …

#016: Why Most Leaders Suck with John Richie

August 17th, 2021


You know who sucks more than people?

Bad leaders.

Today we bring back an episode from the archives that rings true even more so in today’s leadership landscape. John Richie is a highly-sought after executive coach and …

S2 Tips: What Do Followers Need?

August 12th, 2021


We talk a lot about what leaders need, but what do followers need? According to research from Gallup involving 10,000 people in “follower” roles …

#015: Deep Dive: The People Component with Benj Miller and Chris White

August 10th, 2021


People can make or break an organization. Sometimes leader might even think that their business would be better without the people element. But …

S2 Tips: Is your team empowered to ask questions?

August 5th, 2021


There’s a big difference between being open to questions and actively inviting questions. Asking a question is a vulnerable thing––it implies you …

#014: Radical Candor with Jason Rosoff

August 3rd, 2021


Giving and receiving feedback is one of an entrepreneur’s greatest assets. But many of us fall into the trap of thinking that in order to give effective feedback, you either have to be a jerk or your feedback has to be …

S2 Tips: What Should You Stop Doing?

July 29th, 2021


Thinking of new, innovative tools and strategies to run your business is always exciting! But for everything you want to start doing, there’s …

#013 What Are You Known For? with Jeff Henderson

July 27th, 2021


What do you want to be known for? What are you actually known for? For most companies, there’s a big gap between those two questions. But, when you close that gap, you’re likely to experience the healthiest form of …

S2 Tips: Do You Have a Culture of Vulnerability?

July 22nd, 2021


Perhaps one of the biggest topics today, when it comes to team health, is vulnerability. If you’re tired of hearing about vulnerability, you probably …

#012: Setting Your Destination with Chris White and McKenzie Reeves Decker

July 20th, 2021


Dreaming big is intimidating when so much feels uncertain. That’s why many business leaders would rather lead their company to a safe (often …

S2 Tips: Are Your Values a Trap?

July 15th, 2021


Defining your organization’s core values is key to providing clarity and control in your business. But defining your values improperly can leave you …

#011: Defining Your Ethos with Benj Miller and McKenzie Reeves Decker

July 13th, 2021


When you introduce yourself to someone new, you probably start with your name and what you do for a living. But that doesn’t hold a candle to the …

S2 Tips: Are you a good listener?

July 8th, 2021


So, you think you’re a good driver, huh? Well, research shows more people are not as good as they think they are. Same thing goes for listening skills. Turns out that nodding your head, interjecting the occasional “Ah …

#010: Keeping Score: Assessing Your Core Functions with Benj Miller and Chris White

July 6th, 2021


In one form or another, you’re probably heard, “What get’s measured gets managed.” That’s because metrics are insanely valuable assets that provide …

S2 Tips: How do I stop micromanaging?

July 1st, 2021


You’re a leader who cares about getting results, achieving your vision, and caring for your team. But, if you’re a leader who lacks trust in your …

#009: Becoming Inwardly Sound with John Ott

June 29th, 2021


Leadership is an elusive concept. Just about everyone has their own definition of what leadership is. And, most people’s definition is a reflection of who they are rather than the actual qualities that building a …

S2 Tips: How do you spend your breaks?

June 24th, 2021


When you’re in the grind, it’s hard to get the time you need to get clear on the biggest issues and opportunities in your business. That’s one big reason that breaks are a huge asset to entrepreneurs and business …

#008: Cleaning Up Your Mental Mess with Dr. Caroline Leaf

June 22nd, 2021


If your mind is a mess, your whole life will be a mess. Fortunately your mind is something you can manage. Proper mind management can help improve …

S2 Tips: What Happens When You Ask Better Questions?

June 17th, 2021


Anybody else out there hate small talk? It’s so easy to ask pass/fail, yes/no questions that we’ve made a habit out of confusing small talk for real …

#007: When Data Meets Strategy with Nelson Davis

June 15th, 2021


A rapidly increasing number of businesses are using data to make better, well-informed decisions for their organization. With data analytics becoming more necessary and accessible, it’s also becoming more ubiquitous in …

S2 Tips: How do you define a successful mission?

June 10th, 2021


What does a successful mission look like?

How do you navigate and anticipate obstacles, move forward with limited resources, and stay on track while …

#006: Cadence: The Heartbeat of Your Organization

June 8th, 2021


People are messy. Not “cluttered desk, haven’t showered in a couple days, Cheetos in the beard” kind of messy… hopefully. People are messy in the …

S2 Tips: Should you let them go?

June 3rd, 2021


Today on S2 Tips, we answer a listener question: What do you do when you have an employee who’s a bad fit for their seat, you don’t have anybody to fill the seat, and you don’t have an open seat to move this employee …

#005: Designing Your Organization's Future with System & Soul

June 1st, 2021


One of the beautiful things about being an entrepreneur or business leader is the ability to design your organization. Your organization’s design is …

S2 Tips: Can you engineer your future?

May 27th, 2021


Too often entrepreneurs and business leaders find themselves fighting the fires of the culture they have created rather than getting out in front and …

#004: Redefining Delegation with Emily Morgan

May 25th, 2021


What is holding you back from delegating your responsibilities? Are you afraid you won’t know what to do with your time? Are you worried that the …

S2 Tips: What makes you the "only?"

May 20th, 2021


If you were the only ___________, what would you be? It's a powerful—maybe even scary—question to answer. But it's the difference between you and …

#003: Anxiety, Stress & Rewiring Your Brain with Dr. Don Wood

May 18th, 2021


Ok, so you're a high performer and your past experience has never gotten in the way of your ability to climb... But what if you had another gear? 

This week we talked to Dr. Don Wood, an expert on physical and emotional …

S2 Tips: What weight are you carrying?

May 13th, 2021


We're all carrying something, often without really realizing how much we've shouldered until we're burnt out. In this week's tip, we'll talk about …

#002: Controlling Triggers and Building Trust with Scott Mann

May 11th, 2021


It's no secret...

When it comes to human connection, our go-to guy is Scott Mann (Rt. Ltc.). He's a former Green Beret, the Owner of Rooftop Leadership, The Hero's Journey, and author and playwright for his production,

#001: How System & Soul Works

May 4th, 2021


Friends! Welcome to System & Soul! We're leaving the Tractionville™ island for deeper waters and a whole new view! System & Soul is our new …

#089: Get ready... get set... Big News from Tractionville™

April 27th, 2021


This week, we've got big news coming your way. We're not giving it all up just yet... but you can head over and connect with us on Linkedin (Benj Miller and Chris White) to get a sneak peek at what's coming to you in …

Tractionville™ Tips: The Doldrums

April 22nd, 2021


Not one wants to admit when they are in this season... 

It feels like failure. It feels like disappointment. It feels like a deep dissatisfaction …

#088: Family Business and Better Decision Making with Sara B. Stern

April 20th, 2021


Get this: 2/3's of the privately held businesses in the U.S. are family businesses. And whether you're a family business owner or NOT, legacy, succession, and making the right decisions with the right people are BIG …

Tractionville™ Tips: The Executing Season

April 15th, 2021


Work it. That's the theme of the executing season. When you're in full-focus, get-it-done mode you're in the "summer season" of The Creator's Cycle. …

#087: Rejection Proof with Jia Jiang

April 13th, 2021


Imagine going after rejection with a vengeance...

every day for 100 days challenging yourself to get rejected.

Our guest Jia Jiang...

👉  TED speaker (with nearly 7 million video views 🤯)

👉  author of Rejection Proof,

Tractionville™ Tips: The Planning Season

April 8th, 2021


If you're in a frenetic state of idea generation and list-making, you might be in The Planning Season. This week we talk about what this season looks like and how to get the most out of it. 

Tractionville™ Tips are …

#086: Healthy Work Environment with Richard Sheridan

April 6th, 2021


Here's an idea for you...

Learn how to pump fear out of your team and give them a thrust to be open, honest, and real about what issues are getting in their way.

Richard Sheridan Co-Founder, CEO, and Chief …

Tractionville™ Tips: Feck Perfuction

April 1st, 2021


Let's switch it up a little.

This week we're sharing a powerful passage from James Victore's incredible book, Feck Perfuction. It's a charge to go …

#085: The Power of the BHAG

March 30th, 2021


Catherine Juon gives a new meaning to the word "spark." She joined us on Tractionville this week to share some of her contagious energy for doing …

Tractionville™ Tips: Keeping Your Focus Between Quarterly Meetings

March 25th, 2021


Quarterly and Annual meetings can be great for resetting and directing focus. New energy often comes out of those day-long deep-dives into the why and what we're doing. It's the in-between time that can sabotage all …

#084: The Humanized Leader with Mary Pat Knight

March 23rd, 2021


Believe it or not, there's a way to turn “drama” into functional leadership. 

Mary Pat Knight joins us to talk about her work as founder of Leaders Inspired and author of The Humanized Leader. She explains the victim, …

Tractionville Tips: Lacking Vision

March 18th, 2021


You're the Visionary. So, you should have a clear, energized view of the next big step for your business, right?

Maybe not. 

In this week's Tip, we …

#083: Don't Be Better, Be Different with Laura Ries

March 16th, 2021


You don't win by being better; you win by being different.

Laura Ries is an expert marketing strategist and author whose 25 years of work have given her a clear, focused perspective on what works, and what doesn't when …

Tractionville™ Tips: The Most Underrated Tool in Your Toolbox

March 11th, 2021


There's one tool in the EOS toolbox that doesn't get enough credit for its true power to guide and inform an organization's next steps. Which tool is …

#082: People Strategy with Jonathan Reynolds

March 9th, 2021


There's a difference between "culture fit" and "performance fit." But there has to be a way to have both in every team member. We talk with Jonathan …

Tractionville™ Tips: Visionary vs. Victim

March 4th, 2021


The opposite of a Visionary is not an Integrator, it's a Victim. A Visionary sees a preferred future and makes it happen. A Victim accepts whatever future comes their way. In this Tip, we'll talk about the difference …

#081: Revenue Growth Engine with Darrell Amy

March 2nd, 2021


Exponential growth doesn't just happen—especially on the heels of a global pandemic. We talked with Darrell Amy, author of Revenue Growth Engine and Visionary at Convergo. 

He explains how having an "architect mindset" …

Tractionville™ Tips: Moving Forward Without Clarity

February 25th, 2021


Clarity paralysis is REAL. It's easy to want to put a hold on everything until you know 100% what's best, what the outcomes will be, or what the …

#080: Do More by Doing Nothing with Rob Dube

February 23rd, 2021


You may know Rob Dube's story from the book, Traction. He's the co-founder and co-CEO of imageOne—a Top 25 Forbes Small Giant and the first client Gino Wickman ever taught the EOS Process™. He's also the author of the …

Tractionville™ Tips: Setting Rocks

February 18th, 2021


What's the difference between the company, departmental, and personal rocks? Should they be related? Do we need to set rocks for each category? We'll …

#079: Fighting Creative Resistance with Steven Pressfield

February 16th, 2021


17 years unpaid. 3 unpublished novels. 1 disastrous, produced film.

It's safe to say, Steven Pressfield is a man who knows resistance. He will be the first to tell you. 

His career has spanned 11 states and 27 different …

Tractionville™ Tips: Disregarding vs. Developing

February 11th, 2021


Integrators™ this one is for you. As you're delegating and elevating team members, there's an easy trap to fall into—disregarding instead of developing. In this Tip we talk about the pain point we all experience in …

#078: Winning as a Lifestyle with James "J.R." Reid

February 9th, 2021


What would it look like to play at your peak performance? What if winning was your lifestyle? 

This week we talk to James "J.R." Reid. He works with …

Tractionville™ Tips: Ownership Thinking

February 4th, 2021


How do you create a team with an ownership mindset? Often it starts with clear, documented roles, responsibilities, and results. In this Tip, Chris …

#077: Unhackable with Kary Oberbrunner

February 2nd, 2021


What would it take to become unhackable... fully focused, engaged in your ideas, and gaining clarity toward them? 

Being unhackable is the key to …

Tractionville™ Tips: Core Values Filter

January 28th, 2021


This is your secret weapon when it comes to decision-making and people management. Your core values are the gate-keeping mechanism for who you let …

#076: Chasing Perfection with Sue Hawkes

January 26th, 2021


Sue is a honey badger. What we mean is, she's got swag and major props as a Certified EOS Implementer™ and the Founder and CEO of Yess! As a long-time coach and facilitator, she talks about what it's been like …

Tractionville™ Tips: Building Culture with Process

January 21st, 2021


Processes aren't simply a productivity engine. Processes are a pathway to a healthy culture. This week we're back with the team at to talk …

#075: Competitive Advantage & Preeminence with Glen Jackson

January 19th, 2021


What if your approach was to treat every day as if it was the first day of your business? 

Glen Jackson calls this quality "preeminence." Glen is a leader and co-founder of Atlanta-based public relations agency Jackson …

Tractionville™ Tips: The Cocooning Season

January 14th, 2021


In the middle of winter, there are often competing priorities. As it is the start of a new year, we often want to take off at full speed with our …

#074: Smart Investing with Justin Donald

January 12th, 2021


Investing can be intimidating, risky, and feel simply like it's out of the question for some small business owners. But Justin Donald—named by Entrepreneur Magazine as "the next Warren Buffett of lifestyle …

Tractionville™ Tips: Building Effective Processes with

January 7th, 2021


We're back with our friends at this week to talk about creating greater impact with processes that are documented, shared, and followed by …

#073: Who Not How with Dr. Benjamin Hardy

January 5th, 2021


Your problem is not HOW. 

Your challenge may not in strategy or efficiency or your capacity to get things done. It could be more a challenge of …

Tractionville™ Tips: Optimizing for the Future You Want

December 31st, 2020


What are you optimizing for? There's always something. But are you aware of it? Are you actively moving toward it?

This week we give you a thought-provoking question to consider as you plan for the coming year.

This Tip …

#072: Best of 2020

December 29th, 2020


This year has been memorable for so many reasons—good and bad—but we want to end 2020 focused on the moments we had that will propel us into 2021 with insight, perspective, and renewed energy. 

Enjoy these favorite …

Tractionville™ Tips: Accountability & Scorecards with

December 24th, 2020


There's a favorite saying in EOS®, "right people, right seat." It's crucial to get your people positioned to win where they're most capable and the team.  Mark Abbott and Christine Watts at Ninety join us for a Tip on …

#071: The Gift of Adversity with Scott Rusnak

December 22nd, 2020


Athletes know adversity as keenly as entrepreneurs. Scott Rusnak is both. He's discovered the gift adversity gives him to run successful businesses, …

Tractionville™ Tips: Long-Term vs. Short-Term Issues

December 17th, 2020


How do you know if an issue your team is wrestling with belongs on the short-term or long-term issue list? This week Chris and Benj unpack the key differences in these types of issues and how to prioritize them.

This …

#070: The Clarity Field Guide | Part 2 with Chris White and Benj Miller

December 15th, 2020


You already know the value and benefit of taking Clarity Breaks™, but making them as focused and effective as possible is a learned skill. This week Chris and Benj share in-depth insight into their new book The Clarity …

Tractionville™ Tips: Is it ME or is it our PROCESS?

December 10th, 2020


How many places and platforms do you have scattered data that helps you understand your business? Often, business leaders are tracking projects, …

#069: Creating Great Places to Work with Casey Graham

December 8th, 2020


Casey Graham is unapologetically passionate about his work. He's the founder and CEO of Gravy and an example of what it looks like when founders not …

Tractionville™ Tips: Your Guide to Clarity Breaks™

December 3rd, 2020


If you struggle with Clarity Breaks™ or taking time to reflect, write, and step away from the day-to-day. We've got a new tool for you. We share how …

#068: Process, Agility, & Growth with Trey Sheneman

December 1st, 2020


Trey Sheneman is Executive Marketing Director for Ramsey+. He shares his own experience working in a variety of marketing agencies in very different places in their business journeys. Throughout this journey, Trey …

Tractionville™ Tips: Creating Feedback Loops with Data

November 26th, 2020


In this Tip we talk with our friends at Ninety about the power consistent data offers to your annual reviews and feedback loops.

Tips are sponsored …

#067: Fractional Leadership Fit with Benjamin Wolf

November 24th, 2020


Today on Tractionville™, we are joined by Benjamin Wolf, the founder of Wolf's Edge Consulting and author of the forthcoming book, "Fractional …

Tractionville™ Tips: When You're Missing Motivation

November 19th, 2020


You've hit a wall. You feel stuck, bored, and maybe distracted.

What do you do when you get here? Push harder and grind through it? Or create space to understand where the lack in motivation is really coming from?

Chris …

#066: The Clarity Field Guide | Part One with Chris White and Benj Miller

November 17th, 2020


You've avoided this for far too long...

This week on Tractionville, Chris and Benj share the purpose and power of their new book, The Clarity Field …

Tractionville™ Tips: Daily Huddles & Stand Ups

November 12th, 2020


Outside of weekly meetings with your team, how do you stay on the same page with every employee AND stay on task?

In this week's Tip, Chris and Benj …

#065: Employee Experience with Chris Green

November 10th, 2020


In this episode, Chris and Benj sit down with Chris Green, Co-founder, and Partner of Arch and Tower. Green is an entrepreneur who is passionate about employee experience. He maps out how employees who feel valued are …

Tractionville™ Tips: Fractional Employees and Contractors in Key Meetings

November 5th, 2020


Is it a best practice to include fractional and contract employees in weekly or monthly meetings? This week Chris and Benj answer this listener question and share some real examples of how this is done well.

Share your …

#064: Simple Incentive Plans, Better Engagement with Tom Bouwer and Alex Freytag

November 3rd, 2020


In this episode, Chris and Benj are joined by Alex Freytag and Tom Bouwer, two Certified EOS Implementers® and the authors of their new book Profit Works

In the book, they examine the importance of designing a simple …

Tractionville™ Tips: When You're Stuck in Disagreement

October 29th, 2020


Some days your meetings might be more fighting each other than fighting the issues on the table. What do you do when your team is stuck in a disagreement on a problem? This week Chris and Benj give us some systematic …

#063: Stop Blending In with Angela Pointon

October 27th, 2020


Angela Pointon, President at 11outof11 and author of Stop Blending In. She discusses the strategies for establishing your organization as the authority in your industry through content marketing, what to look at to …

Tractionville™ Tips: Know What You REALLY Want

October 22nd, 2020


EOS® helps business owners get what they want out of their business, BUT what if you don't know what you really want? 

How do you know what game you want to play and what will drive you and the team forward year after …

#062: Delegation and The Jimmy Effect with Ryan Giles

October 20th, 2020


Ryan Giles is an author and EOS Certified Implementer®. He shares the story behind why he created his free ebook, The Jimmy Effect, which teaches business owners how to free up their time by creating effective and …

Tractionville™ Tips: Promoting Diversity with EOS®

October 15th, 2020


Diversity is a powerful force in a business when it's supported and celebrated. In this week's Tractionville™ Tips, Chris and Benj offer insight on …

#061: The Integrator™ Continuum with KeyStone Search and Kelly Knight

October 13th, 2020


It's easy to make a mistake, but you may not be able to afford a mistake when it comes to finding a true business partner.

Finding the right Integrator to accelerate your vision and match your big ideas with focused …

Tractionville™ Tips: Self-Implementing EOS®

October 8th, 2020


If you're self-implementing EOS in your business, this one is for you. Chris and Benj give some key insights into how to best utilize the tools as …

#060: Death of the Org Chart with Walt Brown

October 6th, 2020


Walt Brown is a Certified EOS Implementer®, author of The Patient Organization, avid mountain biker, and black diamond skier. He joins Chris and Benj as the first returning guest on Tractionville™ to talk about his new …

Tractionville Tips: Great Meetings When You're Missing Key Players

October 1st, 2020


How do you keep traction in your meetings through holidays, travel, and illness? What if your key players are missing week after week? 

In this …

#059: Leading with Emotional Intelligence with Dr. Adam Boudreaux

September 29th, 2020


Dr. Adam Boudreaux has a PhD. in Organizational Development and Leadership and is the owner of The Leadership Group. Adam discusses his background in military leadership and how it attracted him to EOS®. He shares how …

Tractionville™ Tips: V/TO™ Challenge

September 24th, 2020


How compelling is your V/TO™?

Is it RISKY?


This week, Chris and Benj challenge us to consider the V/TO as a rallying point for your brand and your team. Listen in on this tip to accept this V/TO …

#058: Community for Integrators with Jennifer Zick

September 22nd, 2020


Visionaries have no trouble finding their network. But what about Integrators? 

This week we talk to Jennifer Zick is the CEO of Authentic Brand and the Creator/Owner/Host of The Integrator User Group (IUG). She shares …

Tractionville™ Tips: The 1-3-1 Issue Solving Method

September 17th, 2020


You get interrupted 100 times a day with other people's issues. 

How do you make it go away without being a bottleneck?

This quick tip will eliminate …

#057: Communication, Charisma, and Authenticity with Michael Allosso

September 15th, 2020


We'd probably call Michael Allosso an "EOS® Entrepreneur." We'd also call him VERY entertaining.

Officially though he's a master communications expert who coaches CEOs and other high-level executives both in dynamic …

Tractionville™ Tips: Battling Urgency and Setting Priorities

September 10th, 2020


We'll never escape the tyranny of the urgent, but doing the urgent things might not lead to completing the most important things. 

How do you juggle quarterly rocks, to-dos, and all the little things that get in the way?

#056: Six Facets of Human Needs with Jeanet Wade

September 8th, 2020


Jeanet Wade is a Certified EOS Implementer™ and Business Alchemist.

She discusses the "Six Facets of Human Needs" which is the topic of her new book The Human Team. The six facets are clarity, connection, contribution, …

Tractionville™ Tips: 5 Do's and 5 Don'ts for Virtual Meetings

September 3rd, 2020


We love it. We hate it. We're all dealing with it. 

Virtual meetings and sessions are the current reality and may become more normal going forward. As EOS Implementers™ Chris and Benj share their top five do's and …

#055: The 3 Biggest Mistakes People Make Choosing a Marketing Agency with Tyler Dolph and Nicole Mennicke

September 1st, 2020


If you're not online, you're invisible, but so few entrepreneurs have the know-how or in-person teams to market themselves really well in the vast …

Tractionville™ Tips: Radical Candor

August 27th, 2020


Are you the good guy or the bad guy?

As a boss, you're team probably puts you in one category or the other. But what if you could be the best of both?

#054: Building Your Flywheel with Jonathan B. Smith

August 25th, 2020


In this episode Chris and Benj talk with entrepreneur, author, and EOS Implementer,™ Jonathan Smith about embracing Jim Collins's concept of the Fly …

Tractionville™ Tips: What Makes You A Visionary

August 20th, 2020


This week's Tip gives a clear charge to Visionaries of all kinds to remember their ability, power, and unique abilities. Got a question of your own? Hit us up at and we'll feature your question …

#053: The Loneliest Job in the Office with Gary Frey

August 18th, 2020


Gary talks about the ways he's seen EOS's impact on the organizations he's worked with, the sense of loneliness that business owners often experience and how it drives his passion for connecting people.


Tractionville™ Tips: Building A Strong Brand

August 13th, 2020


You only need five key ingredients to create a successful brand. In this Tractionville™ Tip, Chris and Benj share the Pyramid of Brand Success and …

#052: Selling Your Business with Fran Korosec

August 11th, 2020


Fran Korosec is the M&A Director at Align Business Advisory Services. He discusses how his organization guides entrepreneurs through the selling/handoff process of their businesses. He also discusses some …

Tractionville™ Tips: Working Effectively Across Teams

August 6th, 2020


How do you work well across departments and still maintain clear roles and responsibilities for individual team members? Chris and Benj offer …

#051: A Greater Story with Sam Collier

August 4th, 2020


In this episode, Benj Miller and Chris White are joined by Sam Collier, speaker, pastor, and author of the book A Greater Story -- which just …

Tractionville™ Tips: The 10 Commandments of Issue Solving

July 30th, 2020


It's easy to get stuck in the big, ugly issues you find in your business. This week, Chris and Benj share the 10 Commandments of Issue Solving to …

#050: The Art of Negotiation with FBI Hostage Negotiator Chris Voss

July 28th, 2020


How do you negotiate with a terrorist?

According to Chris Voss, it's not much different than negotiating... well, anything. 

In this episode, Chris, Benj, and McKenzie talk with Chris Voss, Former FBI Lead International …

Tractionville™ Tips: Ask Better Questions

July 23rd, 2020


When we're solving issues it's easy to ask blunt, to-the-point questions that we think are getting us the answers we're searching for, but in this …

#04:9 Formula for an Invaluable Teammate with Don Yaeger

July 21st, 2020


There's a formula for greatness - Walter Payton knew it, so does Michael Jordan, David Ross, and Lindsey Vonn. 

In this episode, Don Yaeger, former …

Tractionville™ Tips: Decision Making

July 16th, 2020


Decision making is a key skill for any leader. In this Tractionville™ Tip, Chris and Benj give the four keys to decision making. Remove the guesswork …

#048: Trailblazing and Risk-Taking with 4th Generation Entrepreneur Josh Holtzman

July 14th, 2020


In this episode, we talk with Josh Holtzman, 4th generation entrepreneur, Certified EOS Implementer™, and visionary of SessionGuru. Josh shares his …

#047: Building a Business Out of Adversity with Daniel Davis

July 7th, 2020


In this episode of Tractionville, we’re joined by Daniel Davis, certified EOS Implementer™and the pioneer of EOS Australia and New Zealand. He shares his inspiring story of moving out of an abusive home at the age of …

#046: Wisdom from 1,038 EOS Sessions with CJ DuBe'

June 30th, 2020


In this episode, we talk to our good friend CJ DuBe'. As the global community leader at EOS Worldwide and a seasoned implementor of EOS, she shares what she has gleaned from her roughly 1,038 sessions of EOS coaching. 

#045: What Most People Miss In Creating Trust With Their Tribe With Scott Mann

June 23rd, 2020


"Logic makes people think. Emotion makes people act." The problem is, we often miss the right ways to access emotion in our teams and within our business for the sake of getting it all done. This episode will give you …

#044: How to Maximize the V/TO™ in Your Organization with Matt Cosgriff

June 16th, 2020


How do you get over 500 people in nine different business lines, in eight different offices spread out all over the country to work under the same vision and values? Seriously, it's possible.

Matt Cosgriff, Wealth …

#043: Bringing Out the Brilliance in Others with Corey Blake

June 9th, 2020


In this episode of Tractionville, Chris White and Benj Miller are joined by Corey Blake, the founder, and CEO of Round Table Companies and publisher of Conscious Capitalism. They discuss the importance of profitability …

#042: All-in-One Cyber Security for Small Business with Andrew Rinaldi

June 2nd, 2020


In this episode of Tractionville, Chris White and Benj Miller are joined by Andrew Rinaldi, co-founder of Defendify, an all-in-one cybersecurity company for small businesses. Andrew shares his experience implementing …

#041: Acquiring and Growing Businesses with The Firefly Group

May 26th, 2020


In this episode, we talk with visionary David Mann and integrator Derrick Smith of Firefly, an EOS company that acquires and grows family businesses. They discuss how they got in the game, their checklist for acquiring …

#040: Simple Tools, Entrepreneur Mindset, Global Impact with Mike Paton

May 19th, 2020


Mike Paton, out-going Visionary of EOS Worldwide and author of Get Grip, gives us insight on his journey from being part of the first group …

#039: Personality Isn't Permanent with Benjamin Hardy

May 12th, 2020


Author, speaker, and entrepreneur, Benjamin Hardy talks with us about why many widely used personality tests are dangerously limiting assessments …

#038: The Art of Delegation with Emily Morgan

May 5th, 2020


Emily discusses why delegation is an essential part of every manager’s role and outlines some strategies to help you break through your own ceiling.

[BONUS] The Resilient Entrepreneur with Ben Berman and Jonathan Smith

April 30th, 2020


A crisis is an opportunity for entrepreneurs and business owners to demonstrate an unshakable resilience in any circumstance. Certified EOS Implementers™ Ben Berman and Jonathan Smith talk about the seven disciplines to …

#037: CEO Tribe with Larry Hart

April 28th, 2020


Larry talks about the breakthroughs that can come from having a peer group and why connecting virtually won’t hinder that. He also discusses the importance of prioritizing people & process and how to not get caught …

[BONUS] Gettin' Real with Your Hosts, Chris and Benj

April 23rd, 2020


For this bonus episode, our special guests are, well... us! We couldn't think of a better way to show solidarity with our listeners than to share …

#036: Competing on Culture with Ron Kaminski

April 21st, 2020


Whatever your business, attracting top talent to your team is crucial to success. Ron discusses the importance of competing on culture and gives a …

#035: Purely EOS with Amber Baird

April 14th, 2020


Often, the entrepreneur tendency is to adapt, modify and fix. Amber talks about why EOS isn’t a process that needs fixing and discusses the importance of keeping it pure.

Contact Amber:

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[BONUS] Creating Certainty in Uncertainty with Dr. Dino Signore

April 10th, 2020


In this bonus interview, Dr. Dino Signore shares how leaders can address uncertainty in their business and using proven methods, establish certainty and encourage growth in the people around them.

About Dr. Dino:
Dr. …

#034: Burning Boats with Zack Swire

April 7th, 2020


Having just completed EOS bootcamp, Zack shares a fresh perspective on what the process is like and takes us on his journey to becoming a certified EOS implementor.

Learn more about Zack:

This episode is …

[BONUS] An EOS Company's Guide to Surviving Coronavirus with Ken Dewitt

April 2nd, 2020


Ken outlines 9 steps that all EOS companies should take to make sure that they survive a global pandemic and an economic crisis. He also outlines …

#033: Operation EOS with Chris Hallberg

March 31st, 2020


Certified EOS Implementor, ex-military man, and author, Chris Hallberg, shares his technical and tactical approach to EOS and talks about the benefits of implementing military practices into his business.

Learn more …

[BONUS] - Leading Through Chaos with Scott Mann

March 26th, 2020


Former Army Green-Beret, Scott Mann, talks about re-purposing our struggle to lead through the chaos and succeed in a time of crisis. Scott takes us through some exercises and questions to help us slow down and deal …

#032: Reel Experiences with Bryan Coley

March 24th, 2020


We've all heard of companies using personality tests and strength finder assessments to learn more about their teams. In this episode, Bryan Cooley …

[BONUS] "How to Work from Home" with Bryan Miles

March 19th, 2020


Many of us find ourselves working from home during a global pandemic. Bryan gives us tips and tricks to work from home more effectively and …

#031: Making Entrepreneurs with Gino Wickman

March 17th, 2020


The man who started it all joins Tractionville to talk about the creation of EOS from a family business to a global movement.

Learn more about Gino:

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#030: Success Through Purpose with Ted Bradshaw

March 10th, 2020


Certified EOS Implementer™ & Community Leader at EOS Worldwide, Ted Bradshaw, talks about the importance of finding your personal and company “why” as it relates to pursuing your purpose. Ted also talks about the …

#029: Flip My Funnel with Sangram Vajre

March 3rd, 2020


Author, Speaker, Podcaster, and Co-Founder of Terminus, Sangram Vajre, talks with our community about how we could be looking at marketing strategies …

#028: Hiring the Right People with Alex Freytag & Alec Broadfoot

February 25th, 2020


Alec and Alex talk join Tractionville to talk about how you can make sure you hire the right people for your business. They discuss how to create a magnetic job posting, how to assess core values, and what most …

#027: Your Office Space Could be Killing Your Productivity with Patrick Braswell

February 18th, 2020


Show Notes: Patrick discusses how your office space might be limiting your team’s productivity, the importance of human connection in the work place, …

#026: How to be a Great Boss with René Boer

February 11th, 2020


René discusses the core attributes of great bosses, how skills aren’t enough when it comes to managing people, and outlines 5 leadership abilities …

#025: Life Lessons from a Super Bowl Champion with Fred Stokes

January 31st, 2020


Former NFL star, founder of the Fred Stokes Sausage Company, and creator LINT Brother, Fred Stokes, empties his pockets and shares what it was like to be on top of the world as a Super Bowl Champion and to be …

#024: Hiring Rockstars with Mike Frommelt

January 28th, 2020


Whether your business is comprised of a few employees or a few hundred employees, having the right people is crucial to your success. Mike Frommelt talks with the Tractionville team about some of the “do’s and don’ts” …

#023: EOS for Nonprofits with Lee Nasehi

January 21st, 2020


Lee talks with us about the unique challenges and opportunities that EOS presents for non-profits. She also discusses the importance of building a …

#022: Creating Culture with Julia Langkraehr

January 14th, 2020


Julia talks with us about implementing EOS from scratch, the power of thought in business, and how to create culture within your team.

Learn more …

#021: The Accidental Implementor with Mark O'Donnell

January 7th, 2020


Mark discusses what makes a great implementor, how implementing EOS is like football, and the importance of growing into your unique ability.

Learn more about Mark O'Donnell:

Become an …

#020: The Miracle Manager with Kevin Armstrong

December 31st, 2019


Kevin talks about what a manacoach is, why leaders don’t always make good managers, and what Brené Brown thinks are the key ingredients to good coaches. 

Learn more about Kevin:

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#019: Ready or Not with Kraig Guffey & Jason Ogden

December 24th, 2019


Jason and Kraig from Syrup Marketing discuss why EOS became their best friend after a company fell into their lap whether they were ready to lead it or not. 

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#018: Rocket Fuel with Mark Winters

December 17th, 2019

Certified implementor and author of Rocket Fuel, Mark Winters, discusses his 5 Rules & 5 Tools for how to maximize the V-I relationship. Mark …

#017: Piloting EOS with Dean Breyley

December 10th, 2019


Certified U.K. EOS Implementor, Dean Breyley talks about his experience being one of the first implementors in the U.K., the battle scars that come from self implementing, and the importance of having an EOS community.

#016: King of Pops with Steven & Nick Carse

December 3rd, 2019


King of Pops started with a used ice cream pushcart and a rainbow umbrella and has since turned into a nationally recognized brand. Co-Founders, Steven and Nick Carse join Tractionville to give some tips on how to …

#015: 10X Yourself with Dan Sullivan

November 26th, 2019


Owner & Founder of Strategic Coach™, Dan Sullivan,  joins Tractionville to discuss what he has learned over the years as one of the world's most …

#014: What Great Implementers Know with Ken "The Hurricane" DeWitt

November 19th, 2019


Ken talks about how he got the nickname "The Hurricane", explains what makes great implementers great, and discusses  some mistakes all companies make. 

Learn more about Ken:

This episode is sponsored by …

#013: EOS to Scale with Eric Dykes

November 12th, 2019


Eric Dykes, SVP of UTG (a Coretelligent Company), talks with Tractionville about how choosing EOS helped his company clarify their roles, fast track …

#012: EOS Goes Paperless with Mark Abbott

November 5th, 2019


Investor, Senior Executive, and Certified EOS Implementor, Mark Abbott, talks about how you can eliminate your EOS paper trail and get the most out of your operating system. 

Learn more about Mark: 

#011: More Than a Pet Project with Dr. Dani McVety

October 29th, 2019


Lap of Love is a network of veterinarians around the country whose goal is to empower every owner to care for their geriatric pets. Owner and Founder, Dr. Dani McVety talks with us about how EOS helped turn her passion …

#010: Right People, Right Seats with Kelly Knight

October 21st, 2019


Integrator/ President of EOS Worldwide, Kelly Knight, discusses managing transitions well and how the right chemistry on your team can be a formula …

#009: How to Lead in a World of Distraction with Clay Scroggins

October 15th, 2019


We all have things that demand our attention and sometimes we are pulled in so many directions, we aren't heading in any direction at all.

Author, …

#008: Operating Within Your Operating System with Adam Strange

October 8th, 2019


Hive Revenue CEO, Adam Strange, talks about the Visionary / Integrator marriage and how EOS can help you turn around a business that seems too far gone.

Find out more about Hive Revenue:

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#007: The Future is FIMale with Kristie Clayton

October 1st, 2019


Kristie Clayton, Integrator & Founder of Female Integrator Mastermind (FIM), discusses where the group came from and how a small group of 5 women …

#006: Why Most Leaders Suck with John Richie

September 23rd, 2019


Chris and Benj talk with experienced CEO and now highly sought after executive coach, John Richie.

John has powerful and unique mental models for …

#005: Cascading EOS with Tom Bouwer

September 16th, 2019


In this episode, Chris and Benj chat with Tom Bouwer. Tom is not only a multiple time entrepreneur and Certified EOS™ Implementer, he is also the …

#004: Multiples Expansion with Michael Wright

September 9th, 2019


In this episode, Chris and Benj interview EOS graduate, Co-Founder and President of Power
Grid Engineering, Michael J. Wright.

In this episode we …

#003: The Patient Organization with Walt Brown

September 2nd, 2019


In this high-energy episode, Walt explains the seven questions we all must ask of our organizations.

After selling his companies in 2006 and beginning coaching, Walt Brown became an EOS Implementer in May of 2008 

Walt …

#002: The Genesis with EOS Co-founder Don Tinney

August 26th, 2019


In this episode, Chris and Benj interviews Co-founder of EOS Worldwide, Don Tinney. Don has a 30+ year history of helping entrepreneurial teams of ordinary people consistently deliver and achieve something …

#001: An EOS Island with Jill Young

August 19th, 2019


Huge thanks to the sponsor of this episode KeyStone.

KeyStone has conducted successful Integrator searches across the country and they are proud …

#000: An Introduction to Tractionville

August 7th, 2019


Tractionville is a podcast for companies running on EOS and any business owner or leader interested in business best practices.

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