We hear lots of stories about motherhood and parenting. But not very many about moms
themselves—except for ones where they feel guilty and exhausted all the time. Journalist Katherine Goldstein wants to change that. She joins us to talk about what it’s really like to be a working mom—and how she’s challenging the world around her, not conforming to it.
Katherine is a journalist whose work focuses on women, work, and parenting issues. She’s also the creator and host of a new podcast called The Double Shift—a show that explores the intricate lives of mothers who work. She joins us to share her own experience, and the amazing stories of working moms—from a 24-hour daycare provider in Las Vegas to a candidate who’s running for office with three small kids in tow.
The conversation about working mothers is very dominated by mostly middle class, white collar, urban people in big cities… usually through a lens of a lot of privilege. And those concerns that are raised by that group are completely valid and need to be talked about, but those are only a very small slice of the experience.
—Katherine Goldstein, journalist and host of The Double Shift
We talk about:
- How Katherine went from print journalism to reporting via podcast, and how she developed The Double Shift
- Why “leaning in” doesn’t work as advertised for moms, and, well, lots of women
- Why men are essential in the work of protecting and supporting women and mothers
- Why angry moms make such great activists
- Sara gets showered with glitter at a Robyn show and there’s just still so much glitter everywhere
- Katel and Sara discuss how their friends and families are navigating child care, from the wildly varying ways it takes shape to how much it costs—and what universal child care could mean for American parents
- And a big fuck yeah to...poetry! More specifically, lovely poetry books (and more) from Small Press Distributors