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Speaking of Bitcoin (formerly Let's Talk Bitcoin!)

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Featuring analysis and discourse by hosts Andreas M. Antonopoulos, Dr. Stephanie Murphy, Adam B. Levine, and Jonathan Mohan, episodes feature friendly, in-depth discussions and even-handed interviews.Speaking of Bitcoin (formerly known as Let's Talk Bitcoin!) is the longest-running English language … read more


Let's Talk Bitcoin! #432 How MakerDAO’s Stablecoin Survived the Crash, Smart Contract Bugs and Full Decentralization

In the aftermath of the so-called "Black Thursday" crash from several weeks ago, MakerDAO's "DAI" ethereum backed dollar pegged stablecoin came untethered and was, for a time at least, functionally insolvent. In the aftermath, holders of the MKR token which allows holders to participate in governance decisions opted to do a couple of things, including adding the centralized stablecoin USDC to the list of acceptable collateral, which drew both condemnations mostly around centralized risk being added to the system and praise for making the system more robust against sudden ETH collateral price crashes.

And now most recently, the Maker Foundation which had held some centralized control over the protocol completed their long-planned exit with all authorities now transferred to the holders of MKR tokens, removing both a point of control which had been used as a safety check and a point of risk in that centralized control can be co-opted and used to disrupt a system as we've seen in other examples.

On today's show we're digging into:

What is Decentralized Finance (DeFi)?

How does decentralized finance differ from traditional banking?

Fractional reserve vs over-collateralized loans 

Liberty Dollars’s missing collateral and USDC’s risky name

MakerDAO, DAI dollar-pegged stablecoins and how this DeFi stablecoin actually works

SDAI (Single Collateral DAI) vs. DAI (Multi Collateral DAI)

Smart contract ‘vaults’

Lending money to yourself: 150%, 300%, insurance and auctions

What happened on ‘Black Thursday’ as the price of Ether dropped more than 50%

What happened when transaction fees went through the roof

A bug in the collateral auction smart contract

A surprising crash: as the system became functionally insolvent the price of the dollar pegged stablecoin actually went up. vaults are transparent and pretty interesting, take a look!

Loaning yourself money using your ether (at interest)

How MakerDAO’s approach differs from SALT Lending

The other half of the DAI system: saving vault smart contracts

DAI Saving Rate (DSR) and the new certificate of deposit

The reward for using MKR tokens to administer a good system

Can savings vaults be liquidated?

Smart contract risks, consensus risks, systemic risks and response time risks

Sponsors: and

What specifically went wrong with the auction smart contracts?

Recapitalizing the system by diluting MKR governance stakeholders

Even with bugs, market mechanisms to fill the solvency hole seemed to work better than government bailout equivalents.

Completing the transition from foundation-overseen to full tokenized governance.

Decentralization transition - A necessary step or a natural one?

Single collateral vs. Multi-collateral stablecoins

Why would a decentralized stablecoin want to allow a centralized stablecoin for collateral?

External political risks vs. internal technological risks

“Life finds a way” and DeFi’s natural circuit breakers (also Mt.GOX)

Whats the point of putting USDC in to get DAI out?

How does DeFi stablecoin insurance work?

A modular ecosystem 

How DeFi and traditional finance are similar

DeFi vs. 2nd layer protocols


Hosts: Adam B. Levine, Andreas M. Antonopoulos, Jonathan Mohan & Stephanie Murphy

Sponsors: and

Music: Jared Rubens and GurtyBeats

Editing: Jonas

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