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So Many Damn Books

213 EpisodesProduced by Christopher HermelinWebsite

A blessing, a curse, a podcast, since 2014.Christopher (@cdhermelin) invites folks to the Damn Library to talk about reading, literature, publishing, and trying to make it through the never-dwindling stack of things to read. All with a themed drink in hand. Recorded at the Damn Library in Brooklyn, … read more

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203: Rebecca Makkai (I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU) & Sabahattin Ali's MADONNA IN A FUR COAT

May 16th, 2023


Rebecca Makkai drops into the Damn Library a few months after her newest smash hit novel I Have Some Questions For You hit the shelves, chatting about critiquing/celebrating the podcast world, how podcasters are the new …

202: Brendan Slocumb (SYMPHONY OF SECRETS) & Eli Cranor's OZARK DOGS

May 2nd, 2023


Brendan Slocumb has a seat in the hyperspace universe of the Zoom Damn Library to talk his new historical musical thriller Symphony of Secrets, and …


April 11th, 2023


Ling Ling Huang stops by the universe of the Zoom Damn Library the day after her book, Natural Beauty, graces shelves. She talks about writing the book in her Notes app, living the classical music life, how she …

200: Kelly Link (WHITE CAT, BLACK DOG) & Megan Giddings' THE WOMEN COULD FLY

March 28th, 2023


The one and only Kelly Link zooms into the Damn Library hypserspace to talk her spectacular new collection, White Cat, Black Dog. She gets into how …


March 15th, 2023


Idra Novey actually drops by the Damn Library IN PERSON to discuss her stunning new book, Take What You Need, creating an artist’s practice, torching things, and short novels. Also, she brought along César Aira’s On …

198: Spring Horizon Ramble 2023, or, The Re-Return of Drew

February 21st, 2023


Former co-host, writer, and podcast journeyman Drew Broussard sits down to talk about, what else? Books. The Tournament of Books, inventing rather than referencing art within fiction, the problem with thriller titles …

197: Nita Prose (THE MAID) & Nina de Gramont's THE CHRISTIE AFFAIR

February 7th, 2023


Nita Prose drops into the Damn Library to illuminate her runaway hit novel, winner of a Goodreads Choice Award, The Maid, and all the ways she used her past as an editor and her knowledge of the tropes of mystery …

196: Tom Ayling (Antiquarian Book Seller & TikToker) & David Pearson's SPEAKING VOLUMES

January 24th, 2023


Antiquarian Bookseller and TikTok star Tom Ayling zooms on in to the Damn Library discuss the world of antiquarian books, and the world of book-centered TikTok, two worlds that are far more complementary than you’d …

195: Top 2022 Reads with Sarah

December 20th, 2022


Sarah joins me in the Damn Library she co-owns to chat about favorite reads of 2022, both books published this year and books experienced this year. …

194: Alison Watts (transl. Seishu Hase's THE BOY AND THE DOG) & Peter Heller's THE DOG STARS

December 6th, 2022


Alison Watts zooms through the Damn Library hypserspace from Japan to talk the new novel she translated, The Boy and the Dog by Seishu Hase, as well as the life of a translator. Plus, we talk the prevalence of Japanese …

193: Ashley Hutson (ONE'S COMPANY) & Lindsay Hill's SEA OF HOOKS

November 23rd, 2022


Ashley Hutson, author of Christopher’s favorite novel of 2022, One’s Company, drops into the Damn Library to discuss the joy of writing a novel based …

192: Kevin Wilson (NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO PANIC) & Blair Braverman's SMALL GAME

November 8th, 2022


Kevin Wilson zooms in from his mountain to discuss his thrilling new novel, Now is Not the Time to Panic, and that means going into writing …

191: Kate Beaton (DUCKS: TWO YEARS IN THE OIL SANDS) & Michelle Paver's DARK MATTER

October 25th, 2022


Legendary comic artist and writer Kate Beaton drops into the Damn Library and talks about her monumental achievement — her new memoir, Ducks: Two Years in the Oil Sands, and all that comes with it, including excavating …

190: GennaRose Nethercott (THISTLEFOOT) & Kelly Link's MAGIC FOR BEGINNERS

September 13th, 2022


GennaRose Nethercott drops in, no strings, for a discussion of her new novel Thistlefoot, puppetry, research, cootie catchers, and the muchness of novel writing. Plus, she brings along Magic for Beginners by Kelly Link, …


August 23rd, 2022


Anthony Marra zooms into the Damn Library and attempts to turn the tables on interviewing, to some avail. Of course he gets into his new novel, Mercury Pictures Presents, how research fuels his writing, and how he wants …

188: Tom Scharpling (IT NEVER ENDS, THE BEST SHOW, and more)

August 9th, 2022


Living Legend Tom Scharpling drops into The Damn Library to chat about the paperback release of his national bestseller, It Never Ends, and his recent 24-hour Best Show episode triumph. There are discussions of legacy, …

187: Summer Ramble 2022

July 26th, 2022


Drew returns to discuss his new show, Voyage into Genre, working at a bookstore, and Christopher's mad musings on which child survivalist would win …

186: Angela Ledgerwood (LIT UP) & Richard Flanagan's THE NARROW ROAD TO THE DEEP NORTH

July 12th, 2022


Angela Ledgerwood, of the podcast Lit Up drops in, physically, in person, actually inside the Damn Library, and it's a meeting of the podcast minds. Of course Christopher smokes a negroni for the both of them and …

185: Mat Johnson (INVISIBLE THINGS) and Claire North's NOTES FROM A BURNING AGE

June 28th, 2022


Mat Johnson launches into the Damn Library Zoom Zone to discuss his new novel, Invisible Things. We get into conspiracies, surprising yourself with your writing, teaching, writing funny, and a bunch of other stuff, …

184: Elaine Hsieh Chou (DISORIENTATION) and Matthew Salesses' CRAFT IN THE REAL WORLD

June 14th, 2022


Elaine Hsieh Chou drops into the Damn Library Hyperspace Zoom Zone to chat her incredible new campus satire, Disorientation. We get into the world of academia, writing villains, and of course, why she wrote this book …

183: Reader Feature (Part 2)

May 25th, 2022


Here are three more interviews with featured readers! So fun to talk about bookstore ownership, how being an agent affects reading, the trials and …

182: Reader Feature (Part 1)

May 18th, 2022


Here are the first three (of six!) mini interviews with So Many Damn Books Readers, talking favorite recent reads, current reading projects, and giving a book to a famous person, amongst many other bookish subjects.

My …

181: Publishing Talk with Sarah

April 19th, 2022


Sarah, partner of Christopher and co-owner of the Damn Library, drops into some of the space she pays rent for to chat about working with the backlist for Penguin Random House, the world of publishing unionization …

180: Sara Nović (TRUE BIZ) and Asali Solomon's THE DAYS OF AFREKETE

April 5th, 2022


Sara Nović webcams into the Damn Library Zoom Zone to talk her new novel, True Biz. We discuss the limitations of prose in comparison to ASL, how she tried to mimic ASL on the page, some fantasies of Eyeth, and the …


March 22nd, 2022


Sasha Fletcher physically drops in to the Damn Library. In the flesh. Christopher and Sasha are actually in the same room, chatting over cocktails. This is great, because Sasha’s novel Be Here to Love Me at the End of …

178: Sequoia Nagamatsu (HOW HIGH WE GO IN THE DARK) & Brenda Peynado's THE ROCK EATERS

March 8th, 2022


Sequoia Nagamatsu, author of How High We Go in the Dark steps into the Damn Library Pocket Universe and covers a lot of ground, both real and metaphysical. We get into why most pandemic novels don't focus on pandemics, …

177: Dana Stevens (CAMERA MAN: Buster Keaton, the Dawn of Cinema, and the Invention of the Twentieth Century) & Fernando Pessoa's THE BOOK OF DISQUIET

February 22nd, 2022


Dana Stevens stops into the Damn Library to talk about her new book, Camera Man: Buster Keaton, the Dawn of Cinema, and the Invention of the Twentieth Century, and it allows for lots of subject hopping, from the birth …


February 8th, 2022


Sara Gran joins Christopher in the Damn Library to talk The Book of the Most Precious Substance, which is wildly exciting - her books are some of the most cited in So Many Damn Books history. They get into plants, and …

175: Winter Ramble 2021

December 28th, 2021


Drew is saying goodbye and vacating his role as co-host. That means one last episode with all the normal trappings, plus a wander into a chat about …

174: Eugene Lim (SEARCH HISTORY) & César Aira's CONVERSATIONS

December 14th, 2021


Eugene Lim stops by the Damn Library to discuss his novel Search History, which sends the conversation careening from AI to authenticity to writing theatrically to songwriting to rainy day ideas, and that spiral leads …


November 30th, 2021


Uli Beutter Cohen, stops into the Damn Library for the third time, but for her first time as an author. She wrote Between the Lines: Stories from the …


November 16th, 2021


Gus Moreno joins Christopher and Drew in the Cosmic Horrorspace of the Zoom Damn Library to talk about This Thing Between Us. First they get into how he wrote about what scares him to write through grief. Then it breaks …

171: Autumn Ramble 2021

November 2nd, 2021


Christopher and Drew hang out and chat about books, which is to be expected. Having just celebrated Halloween, they get into what they did to …


October 19th, 2021


Ruth Ozeki steps on into the Damn Library Hyperverse to shine. We talk about her latest opus, The Book of Form and Emptiness, and how books are magical, and accessing her teenage self, and an unexpected turn of …

169: Alexandra Kleeman (SOMETHING NEW UNDER THE SUN) & André Gide's MARSHLANDS

October 5th, 2021


Alexandra Kleeman is back in the Damn Library! For the third time! This visit, she's brought along her new novel, Something New Under the Sun! We are thrilled to discuss the menace of water that doesn't taste right, …

168: Reading Snapshot, Moving Edition

September 21st, 2021


Christopher and Drew talk about getting rid of books, and trying to be more in the present, and the logic of owning a lot of books. Also, a …

167: McSweeney's Issue 64: The Audio Issue

September 7th, 2021


For this one, we had two producers of the new McSweeney's issue into the Damn Library hyper-verse: Julie Shapiro from Radiotopia and Claire Boyle …

166: Mona Awad (ALL'S WELL) & Sara Gran's COME CLOSER

August 24th, 2021


Mona Awad joins the guys in the zooming Damn Library to talk her new novel, All's Well, which means talk about Shakespeare, and destiny, and magic happening, and chronic pain - all the fun stuff. Then she brought Sara …

165: Meredith Westgate (THE SHIMMERING STATE) & Tim Krabbé's THE VANISHING

August 10th, 2021


Meredith Westgate sets the Damn Library Hyperspace glittering, talking with us about The Shimmering State. The trio of us get into the fabric of memory, the joy of the unreliable narrator, how the book is a litmus test …

164: Laura Blackett & Eve Gleichman (THE VERY NICE BOX) & Kristen Arnett's WITH TEETH

July 27th, 2021


Christopher and Drew are joined in the zoom hysperspace universe with writing duo Laura Blackett & Eve Gleichman, creators of the inventive rom-com thriller, The Very Nice Box. They all get into how Gleichman and …


July 13th, 2021


Rosecrans Baldwin drops into the Damn Library's online zoom space to chat all about Los Angeles, the subject of his new book, Everything Now: Lessons from the City-State of Los Angeles. We get into many of the things …

162: Backlist: Patricia Highsmith (THE RIPLEY NOVELS)

May 18th, 2021


Christopher and Drew finally conquer Patricia Highsmith's Tom Ripley novels, talking (and mildly spoiling) all five of the novels concerning Highsmith's most famous creation. They get into why he's a charming character, …

161: Loan Le (A PHO LOVE STORY) & John Searles' HELP FOR THE HAUNTED

May 4th, 2021


Loan Le is hanging in Zoom Hyperspace with the guys, and since she's a triple threat (writer, editor, reader) there is tons to cover. First, the pleasures of the food writing in A Pho Love Story, and writing teenagers …


April 20th, 2021


When A.E. Osworth drops into the Damn Library to talk about their novel We Are Watching Eliza Bright, that means we get to really talk about the Internet, since that's where their novel is largely set. This is also how …

159: K.M. Szpara (FIRST, BECOME ASHES) & Michael Crichton's JURASSIC PARK

April 6th, 2021


Spring has sprung and we're in the mood for adventure, so we asked K.M. Szpara to join us in the Damn Library for as close to an adventure as we can get these days: chatting about adventure novels! We talk about …

158: Reading Snapshot, March 2021

March 23rd, 2021


Herein, Christopher and Drew discuss how video games and assigned reading can help get the reading going, possible reading themed architectural additions to Drew's house, and how Spring reading is here! Plus some fun …

157: The Morning News' 2021 Tournament of Books Begins

March 9th, 2021


It's March again, which has a different meaning this year but it also still means that it's TOURNAMENT OF BOOKS TIME! With a ca-caw to you, and to you too, the guys do a bit of prognostication that will almost certainly …

156: Reading Snapshot, February 2021

February 23rd, 2021


It happens to all of us, at one point or another, and there's no shame in admitting it: Christopher's in a reading slump. So the guys talk about it, about the latest pandemic wall, about finding joy whenever and …

155: Jenny Offill (WEATHER) & Jean Rhys' WIDE SARGASSO SEA

February 9th, 2021


Jenny Offill, author of Weather (now out in paperback) joins the Damn Library through the internet tubes. Christopher makes a second drink for the book (after he and his wife Sarah discussed it during one of the early …

154: Mateo Askaripour (BLACK BUCK) & Sam Greenlee's THE SPOOK WHO SAT BY THE DOOR

January 26th, 2021


The guys get caffeinated, distantly, with Mateo Askaripour to talk about his fantastic debut novel, Black Buck. They chat about telling your own story even if someone else is telling a similar one, about weaving life …

153: George Saunders (A SWIM IN A POND IN THE RAIN) & Leo Tolstoy's MASTER AND MAN

January 12th, 2021


Guess who zooms in this time? It's George Saunders himself, certified MacArthur Genius, launching his new book about writing and Russian short story masters, A Swim in a Pond in the Rain: In Which Four Russians Give a …

152: Top 9**‡ of 2020

January 5th, 2021


Christopher and Drew hash out their agreed upon top 5 of the year, and then throw out two additional titles each. Lists are weird.


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Minisode: Opening Presents and The Week Between

December 29th, 2020


Christopher and Drew hang out and talk what they got up to for the holiday, open their annual presents to one another, and talk about why Goodreads …

Minisode: Stocking Stuffers from the Public Domain

December 22nd, 2020


Instead of doing a big holiday episode and taking a break, the guys decide to celebrate by putting out some little tidbits to keep everyone company …

151: Emily Temple (THE LIGHTNESS) & Kōbō Abe's THE WOMAN IN THE DUNES

December 15th, 2020


Emily Temple drops into the Damn Library via webcam, and we all chat about calendars, and the dreams of being a writer as well as the dream of online book recommendation, and knowing you'll rewrite your first draft. Of …

150: Book Recommendation Extravaganza

November 24th, 2020


It’s the big 1-5-0 and since it also happens to be the holiday season, we opened the phone-lines to some of our Patreon supporters to help recommend …

149: Short Stories with Lena Valencia (One Story)

November 11th, 2020


One Story managing editor, creative writing teacher, and writer of her own work: Lena Valencia wears many hats. She zooms on in to the Damn Library and Drew and Christopher pick her brain on writing scary things, what …

148: Backlist: Mark Z. Danielewski (HOUSE OF LEAVES)

October 27th, 2020


Christopher and Drew discuss House of Leaves by Mark Z. Danielewski at 20 years, Drew returning to the house and Christopher there for the first time. Plus, the pleasures of ergodic fiction, 3-D fiction, discussions of …

147: Rumaan Alam (LEAVE THE WORLD BEHIND) & Lynn Steger Strong's WANT

October 13th, 2020


Rumaan Alam zooms around into the online void paradox that is the Damn Library to talk about his new novel, Leave the World Behind. Grocery shopping, …

146: The Morning News' SUPER ROOSTER Predictions

September 29th, 2020


Christopher and Drew prognosticate and pontificate about the Super Rooster. Drew might have a scoop. Christopher just won't read Wolf Hall. Listen, …

145: Raven Leilani (LUSTER) & Danzy Senna's NEW PEOPLE

September 15th, 2020


A zoom session with Raven Leilani gets us into all sorts of things, from candles to disco to painting to amorality, and how you have to come to the …

144: Megha Majumdar (A BURNING) and Anjan Sundaram's BAD NEWS

September 1st, 2020


Megha Majumdar zooms from her library into the virtual Damn Library so that we can all talk about her bestseller, A Burning. We talk about what makes an Amaro, juggling three character's POVs, the life of an …

143: Reading Snapshot Redux

August 18th, 2020


Christopher and Drew talk about why people might not want to read classics and books from "Best of the Year" lists, and hope folks can learn to trust …

142: Lindsay Ellis (AXIOM'S END) & Orson Scott Card's SPEAKER FOR THE DEAD

August 4th, 2020


Lindsay Ellis zooms on in to the Damn Library with her recently-NYT-best-selling Axiom's End! We talk ~around~ the plot of her novel, the joys of …

141: Aminatou Sow & Ann Friedman (BIG FRIENDSHIP + CALL YOUR GIRLFRIEND) & Octavia Butler's PARABLE OF THE SOWER

July 21st, 2020


The Zoomin' Damn Library welcomes the good friends and co-hosts of Call Your Girlfriend, Aminatou Sow & Ann Friedman, who are both now newly minted authors of Big Friendship: How We Keep Each Other Close. So of …

140: Quan Barry (WE RIDE UPON STICKS) & Kei Miller's AUGUSTOWN

July 8th, 2020


The Damn Zoom Library hosts Quan Barry, author of the malevolently delightful 80s high school sports movie of a novel, WE RIDE UPON STICKS. She talks …

139: Hilary Leichter (TEMPORARY) & Sabrina Orah Mark's WILD MILK

June 23rd, 2020


Drew and Christopher chat with Hilary Leichter in three different Damn Libraries for another first of its kind digital episode - our first Zoom guest! We discuss Hilary's novel TEMPORARY which leads to talk about things …

138: Backlist: Ali Smith ("The Accidental")

June 9th, 2020


Drew won the annual Tournament of Books bet and chose Ali Smith for this year's "backlist" episode, so the guys read THE ACCIDENTAL in a nod to this fall's SuperRooster Tournament of ToB Champions. It's still pandemic …

137: Back in the Saddle or, Reading Snapshot

May 19th, 2020


Drew and Christopher actually talk at one another in this one. The very first episode of So Many Damn Books where Christopher and Drew aren't …

136: St. Jordi Day (with guest co-host, Dani)

May 5th, 2020


Drew and his wife Dani are sheltering in place, so it's their turn to record an episode (without Christopher) about their happy history exchanging gifts on St. Jordi Day, and their relationship in books. Drew shares the …

135: Tales from the Public Domain

April 21st, 2020


Christopher and Drew read a little something from the public domain, by Christopher Morley and Mark Twain, respectively, then recommend a couple of things.

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134: Tournament of Books 2020 Wrap-Up: Zoom After Hours (with Nozlee Samadzadeh)

April 7th, 2020


Nozlee Samadzadeh hosted Christopher and Drew for her "Zoom After Hours" discussion of The Morning News' 2020 Tournament of Books, and it was such a nice time that we are putting it out for all of you to listen to. They …

133: Jenny Offill's WEATHER (with guest co-host, Sarah)

March 24th, 2020


Christopher and his wife Sarah are social distancing/self-isolating, so they record an episode (sans Drew) about Jenny Offill's oddly prophetic

132: Jordan Kisner (THIN PLACES) & Louise Fitzhugh's HARRIET THE SPY

March 10th, 2020


Longtime friend Jordan Kisner drops into the Damn Library for everyone to celebrate the release of her debut essay collection Thin Places! We discuss …

131: Tournament of Books 2020 Primer

February 25th, 2020


Christopher and Drew talk about the Tournament of Books this year, explain why they like it and also why lots of things have changed since they …


February 11th, 2020


Emily Nemens, author of The Cactus League, editor of The Paris Review, stops by The Damn Library, and everyone gets to talk about all things baseball, including Emily's story of a harrowingly long game. Christopher …

129: Adaptations (CATS, LITTLE WOMEN, and DICKINSON)

January 28th, 2020


Christopher and Drew decide to catch up with things that have been adapted from books and made into movies. Alternate universe Weber adaptations are supposed upon. The future of adaptation form and delivery is …

128: Top 8* of 2019

January 14th, 2020


What better way to start the year than looking back at the stuff that we liked from last year? This episode, we talk about our top 8 books of the …

127: So Many Damn Christmases (The SMDB Holiday Album)

December 18th, 2019


All of this audio is from Christopher and Drew recording the SMDB holiday album! They even included some actual tunes: three seasonal classics with a …

126: Kate Racculia (TUESDAY MOONEY TALKS TO GHOSTS) & Ling Ma's "Severance"

December 3rd, 2019


Kate Racculia stops into the Damn Library and she brings lots of laughter. We all talk about how her new novel is her Indiana Jones novel, and how …

125: Helen Phillips (THE NEED) & Samanta Schweblin's FEVER DREAM

November 19th, 2019


Helen Phillips jumps right into the surreal and strange place that is the Damn Library. She's well used to it, since she's the person who wrote The Need, which we all talk about, and its depiction of motherhood, and the …

124: Reading Snapshot

November 5th, 2019


Christopher and Drew hang out and talk books. You know, like they usually do. They invite you to their 5th Birthday Party for the podcast (!!!) which is at King Tai Bar, in Brooklyn, on November 13th, at 7pm, and you're …

123: Jami Attenberg (ALL THIS COULD BE YOURS) & Sarah Broom's THE YELLOW HOUSE

October 22nd, 2019


Jami Attenberg is in the midst of starting of her book tour when she drops into The Damn Library to discuss her new novel, All This Could Be Yours. …

122: Lisa Brennan-Jobs (SMALL FRY) & Marilynne Robinson's HOUSEKEEPING

October 8th, 2019


Lisa Brennan-Jobs drops into the Damn Library to discuss Small Fry, her coming-of-age memoir about growing up the daughter of Christian Brennan and Steve Jobs. We get into the slipperiness of memory, the selfishness of …

121: Courtney Maum (COSTALEGRE) & Aaron Schulman's THE AGE OF DISENCHANTMENTS

September 24th, 2019


Courtney Maum drops into the Damn Library to imbibe a tequila and mezcal cocktail and talk about her new novel Costalegre. She gets into her past as a tequila promoter, we talk about how Peggy and Pegeen Guggenheim …

120: Back to School

September 10th, 2019


Christopher and Drew enjoy a fall-tinged cocktail and get wistful about going back to school. Christopher's mom's new library prompts a discussion of …

119: Benjamin Dreyer (DREYER'S ENGLISH) & Shirley Jackson's THE HAUNTING OF HILL HOUSE

August 27th, 2019


Random House Copy Chief Benjamin Dreyer stops into the Damn Library to talk to Christopher and Drew about his new utterly correct style guide, Dreyer's English, as well as working as a copy chief, the reading life of …

118: Mira Jacob (GOOD TALK) & Toni Morrison's SULA

August 13th, 2019


The night before Toni Morrison passed away, Mira Jacob came by the Damn Library to discuss her new graphic memoir Good Talk and Morrison's Sula. …

117: Backlist: Larry McMurtry ("Lonesome Dove")

July 30th, 2019


Christopher and Drew get into one of Christopher's dear favorite novels, Larry McMurtry's Lonesome Dove, and why Drew just couldn't finish. They also …

116: #OneBookNY (Patti Smith's JUST KIDS) & Top 6 of 2019 (So Far)

June 25th, 2019


Christopher and Drew are in the Damn Library just on their lonesome to talk the city's One Book, One New York choice, Patti Smith's Just Kids. They get right into how it describes a lost New York, and how you might be …

115: Mona Awad (BUNNY) & Rebecca Godfrey's THE TORN SKIRT

June 11th, 2019


Mona Awad drops by the Damn Library to discuss her new novel Bunny with Christopher and Drew. They get into fairy tales, and making magic real, and …

114: Seth (CLYDE FANS) & Virginia Woolf's TO THE LIGHTHOUSE

May 28th, 2019


Alternative comics legend Seth drops into the Damn Library on his tour for his career-defining Clyde Fans. He and the guys get into the medium of comics itself, and the things it's good at expressing in the realm of …


May 14th, 2019


Erin Somers stays up with the Damn Library to talk her new novel, Stay Up With Hugo Best. Everyone gets into phantasmagoric Late Night universe …

112: Myla Goldberg (FEAST YOUR EYES) & Jesse Ball's CENSUS

May 3rd, 2019


Myla Goldberg drops by the Damn Library and immediately gives Christopher and Drew two new business ventures. And that's before they even start …

111: Lauren Wilkinson (AMERICAN SPY) & Nella Larsen's PASSING

April 16th, 2019


Lauren Wilkinson shows up in the Damn Library to talk about her novel American Spy, and everyone gets into the ways in which this is like a spy novel, and it isn't, and the portrayal of real life people, and how to …

110: Leanne Shapton (GUESTBOOK: GHOST STORIES) & Miriam Toews' WOMEN TALKING

April 2nd, 2019


Leanne Shapton drops by the Damn Library for a spook-filled episode to discuss her new collection, Guestbook: Ghost Stories. Christmas wrapping …

The 2019 Tournament of Books -- Minisode #4

March 31st, 2019


The tournament! It's over! And now we go over just what happened, and how it feels, and what books we hope are maybe in the tournament next year, as well as talk about that looming Mega Rooster...



The 2019 Tournament of Books -- Minisode #3

March 25th, 2019


Another week of the Tournament of Books, another grouping of recaps, plus predictions about the week ahead!


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109: Halle Butler (THE NEW ME) & Samuel Beckett's MOLLOY

March 19th, 2019


Halle Butler joins Christopher and Drew in the Damn Library to discuss her new novel, The New Me, and how she thought of domestic thrillers while she wrote it, and tried to create comedy out of millennial burnout and …

The 2019 Tournament of Books -- Minisode #2

March 17th, 2019


Tournament of Books 2019 continues apace! We talk about the zigs and the zags of the opening round, and where we think that the zigs and zags will come next week.

Zigs and zags!


for …

The 2019 Tournament of Books -- Minisode #1

March 10th, 2019


It's tournament of books time again, so here's a recap of what went down this week, along with the expected wild speculation.

A caw-caw to all of you.

108: Unreliable Narrators

March 5th, 2019


After reading Ian Parker's "A Suspense Novelist’s Trail of Deceptions" piece from the New Yorker, Christopher and Drew get into unreliable narrators …


February 19th, 2019


Charlie Jane Anders teleports into the Damn Library for a very sci-fi episode around her new novel, The City in the Middle of the Night. Anders talks tidally locked planets, the gargantuan effort it took to write her …

106: Karen Thompson Walker (THE DREAMERS) & Kazuo Ishiguro's NEVER LET ME GO

February 5th, 2019


Karen Thompson Walker drops in to dream a little dream with Christopher and Drew in the dreamy Damn Library to discuss her new novel, The Dreamers. …

105: Top 6* of 2018

January 22nd, 2019


Christopher and Drew decide on their shared 4 favorite reads of the year, and add in one personal pick. But they don't stop there! They mention a couple 2018 reads that are next up on their lists, a favorite read in …

104: Happy Holidays, 2018 edition!

December 19th, 2018


Christopher and Drew give gifts, and then talk about the gifts that So Many Damn Books is giving to non-profits, and finish up with some good gift books to get other people in these last few shopping days. Merry merry!

103: Jonathan Lethem (THE FERAL DETECTIVE) & Sei Shōnagon's THE PILLOW BOOK

December 11th, 2018


Jonathan Lethem drops into the Damn Library and the guys are damn excited to have him. They talk about Lethem's new one, The Feral Detective, of …

102: Preti Taneja (WE THAT ARE YOUNG) & Ahmed Saadawi's FRANKENSTEIN IN BAGHDAD

November 27th, 2018


It's a celebration of stories in translation (both linguistically and narratively), indie bookstores, and bourbon on the latest SMDB when Preti Taneja joins the guys in the Damn Library. Her debut novel, We That Are …

101: Sjón (CODEX:1962) & Christian Kracht's THE DEAD

November 13th, 2018


All the way from Iceland, Sjón joins the guys in a Damn Library annex, aka the FSG offices. The conversation ranges from ghosts to unicorns, from …

100: One Hundred Beloved Books

October 30th, 2018


For their 100th episode extravaganza, Drew and Christopher put together a list of their 100 most beloved/most meaningful/most important books, …

99: Milan Bozic (HarperCollins Senior Art Director) & Jaroslav Hašek's THE GOOD SOLDIER ŠVEJK

October 9th, 2018


Drew and Christopher host HarperCollins' senior art director for a chat about book cover design, the hipness of text, trends in design, and more, …

98: Reading Snapshot 2

September 27th, 2018


Christopher and Drew hang out with a whiskey+tea cocktail and just give themselves over to the book chat. First: BUY YOURSELF A TOTE! The "My Other Car is a Book" tote is now available for your purchase. Then they get …

97: #OneBookNY (Jennifer Egan's MANHATTAN BEACH)

September 11th, 2018


Christopher and Drew bring back the One Book, One New York episode for another go, this time reading the city's choice of Jennifer Egan's Manhattan Beach. They talk its pleasures, and diving costumes, and the …


August 14th, 2018


R.O. Kwon buzzes in with her buzzy book, The Incendiaries, and the guys get to talk to her about stuff like campus novels, North Korea, how likely …

95: Megan Abbott (GIVE ME YOUR HAND) & Lisa Halliday's ASYMMETRY

July 31st, 2018


Megan Abbott returns to the Damn Library for her new book Give Me Your Hand, and Christopher cooks up a color changing cocktail to celebrate. The …

94: John Hodgman (VACATIONLAND)

July 17th, 2018


John Hodgman joins the gentlemen in the Damn Library to talk about all sorts of things, from a Borges scholar posing for a picture to reading rehab …

93: Top 5 of 2018 (so far) + Summer Reading

July 10th, 2018


Christopher and Drew hang in the Damn Library and talk about the books they've liked so far this year, the books they are going to read next, and some of the books they are excited about that are soon to be in the …

92: Hannah Pittard (VISIBLE EMPIRE) & Ralph Ellison's INVISIBLE MAN

June 12th, 2018


Hannah Pittard drops back into the Damn Library after writing and editing and publishing an entire new novel called Visible Empire! While drinking a cocktail featuring guava and egg white, she and the guys get way into …

91: Stephanie Danler (SWEETBITTER on Starz) & Lorrie Moore's ANAGRAMS

May 29th, 2018


Stephanie Danler drops by the Damn Library for a second go around, this time to talk the Sweetbitter television adaptation she created, now on Starz. We discuss the Disneyland of production, why writers' rooms are …

90: Amy Kurzweil (FLYING COUCH) & Riad Sattouf's ARAB OF THE FUTURE

May 15th, 2018


For the first time ever, a graphic memoirist stops by the Damn Library in the form of Amy Kurzweil, author of the graphic memoir Flying Couch! She also draws New Yorker cartoons! Listen as we chat about form and tone, …

89: Christopher + Drew (Just Interview Each Other)

May 1st, 2018


Christopher and Drew hang out and explain themselves. They also talk their jobs, and formative reading experiences, and other subjects.

music: Disaster Magic - Pier 6


contribute! …

88: Jonathan Ames (YOU WERE NEVER REALLY HERE) & Leonard Gardner's FAT CITY

April 17th, 2018


Jonathan Ames, writer of novels like Wake Up, Sir and I Pass Like Night, as well as series creator of Bored to Death and Blunt Talk, sits down in the …

Minisode: 2018 PEN World Voices Festival!

April 13th, 2018


Christopher and Drew talk about PEN's 2018 World Voices Festival - check out their website of events!

music: …

87: Ruth Curry (Emily Books) & Sigrid Nunez's THE FRIEND

April 3rd, 2018


Ruth Curry joins the guys in the Damn Library fresh off her #TOB18 judge-ship to chat about all sorts of things, like balancing her reading life and her work life, what she reads for at Emily Books, and why she has a …

The 2018 Tournament of Books - Minisode #4

March 30th, 2018


Oh my gosh! It's over! Listen to me and Drew talk about what we thought about the Tournament this year, and also, a couple books we really wish had been in the tournament! Bok bok to you!

Become a sustaining member of …

The 2018 Tournament of Books - Minisode #3

March 23rd, 2018


Oh my gosh it's still the tournament and we are feeling the madness! Listen to us talk about what's gone on so far, and also, some of the past tournament injustices!

Become a sustaining member of the Tournament!

86: Gabe Habash (STEPHEN FLORIDA) & Iris Murdoch's THE NICE AND THE GOOD

March 20th, 2018


Christopher and Drew wrestle up Gabe Habash to drink, chat, and be merry. Christopher serves everyone a very strange cocktail based on Habash's Stephen Florida, then dive right into the very strange headspace of Mr. …

The 2018 Tournament of Books - Minisode #2

March 13th, 2018


Christopher and Drew prognosticate! The first round is still underway, but we still wanted to talk about what's gone on so far, and what might happen for the end of the round.

Become a sustaining member of the …

85: John Darnielle (UNIVERSAL HARVESTER, THE MOUNTAIN GOATS) & Mathias Énard's Zone

March 7th, 2018


John Darnielle, lead singer of the Mountain Goats and writer of Universal Harvester and Wolf in White Van, sits down in the Damn Library for a …

The 2018 Tournament of Books - Minisode #1

March 7th, 2018


Even though the Tournament won't officially start until after this episode has been posted, we're champing at the bit to get some prognostications going. So, for all you other ToB diehards - this one's for you. 9 …

84: Rachel Lyon (SELF-PORTRAIT WITH BOY) & Eileen Myles' AFTERGLOW

February 20th, 2018


Rachel Lyon sits down in the Damn Library as the first guest of 2018. She presents her incredible new novel Self-Portait with Boy, and the guys ask questions about it, like about camera research, and changing DUMBO, and …


February 6th, 2018


Katherine Faw drops into the Damn Library to talk about things like drugstore sushi, writing about women with ambition, and nail art. Then they all chat about Fleur Jaeggy's Sweet Days of Discipline and how it subverts …

82: Top 6 of 2017

January 30th, 2018


Christopher and Drew chat about their Top 6 books of 2017 - the 4 books they both agree on, and then 2 that only one of the guys puts on the top of the pile. They also pontificate on the book that'll win the 2018 …

81: Holiday Bookclub (Tom Hanks' UNCOMMON TYPE)

December 19th, 2017


Uli Beutter Cohen (Subway Book Review), Bianca Bosker (Cork Dork), and Nozlee Samadzadeh (TMN's Tournament of Books) join Drew and Christopher in the …


December 5th, 2017


E. Lockhart settles into the Damn Library for a long chat about Genuine Fraud, her new novel, as well as touching on her other works, like Disreputable History of Frankie Landau-Banks, and We Were Liars. Then John …

79: Movie Adaptations & MURDER ON THE ORIENT EXPRESS

November 21st, 2017


So Many Damn Books heads to the movies and sees Kenneth Branagh's (mustache's) Murder on the Orient Express, based on the Agatha Christie novel. What you want in an adaptation is discussed, as well as dream adaptations, …

78: Carolyn Murnick (THE HOT ONE) & Claire Dederer's LOVE AND TROUBLE

November 7th, 2017


Carolyn Murnick joins the guys in the Damn Library to discuss her memoir, The Hot One: a memoir of friendship, sex, and murder. Along with discussing …

76: Edgar Cantero (MEDDLING KIDS) & Enid Blyton's FAMOUS FIVE Series

October 10th, 2017


New to Brooklyn (having moved here from Spain), Edgar Cantero drops by the Damn Library with some Meddling Kids and discusses with Drew and Christopher his detective phase, coming up with his style, and why it's easier …

75: Robin Sloan (SOURDOUGH) & Eugene Lim's DEAR CYBORGS

September 26th, 2017


To celebrate the 75th episode of So Many Damn Books, Christopher and Drew bring the Damn Library to the FSG offices to talk to Robin Sloan about his novel Sourdough and Eugene Lim's Dear Cyborgs. Food vs tech, analog vs …

74: Amelia Gray & "Nicotine"

September 12th, 2017


When Amelia Gray stops by the Damn Library, Christopher turns a drink blue again, and they discuss her new book, Isadora. Particularly: what it was …

73: Backlist: Jonathan Lethem (*Motherless Brooklyn")

August 29th, 2017


Without a guest, the guys make good on their TMN Tournament of Books bet- Drew chose Jonathan Lethem's Motherless Brooklyn. They talk about what matters in a noir, Lethem tackling Tourette's, and enjoying a book about …

72: Samantha Hunt & "Things to Do When You're Goth in the Country"

August 15th, 2017


When Samantha Hunt drops by the Damn Library, the guys try to put a shadow in her drink but just end up with something more blood colored. They …

71: Rachel Khong & "Why Did I Ever"

August 1st, 2017


In the Damn Library, Christopher gets an egg white cocktail egg-zactly right for Rachel Khong, author of Goodbye, Vitamin and also All About Eggs. He and Drew also chat with Rachel about the inner/outer voice of the …

70: Rosecrans Baldwin & "Brighton Rock"

July 18th, 2017


Rosecrans Baldwin, who indirectly provided the beginning for the SMDB podcast, stops by the Damn Library to talk about his exceptional "HBO series of a novel," The Last Kid Left. Youth is discussed, as well as getting …

69: Julie Buntin & "Woman No. 17"

July 3rd, 2017


MARLENA MARLENA MARLENA! Julie Buntin drops into the Damn Library to talk her terrific debut novel, Marlena, and gets into whether she's a Marlena or …

68: Alissa Nutting & "Him, Me, Muhammad Ali"

June 20th, 2017


Alissa Nutting, author of Made for Love (and also Tampa) joins the guys in the Damn Library to talk surveillance state and let the guys bring up the …

67: Elif Batuman & "Swann's Way"

June 6th, 2017


Elif Batuman joins Christopher and Drew in the Damn Library, and they all imbibe a drink called "The Dissertation" which can smack the words off the tip of your tongue. They discuss Batuman's The Idiot, and being nicer …

66: #OneBookNY ("Americanah")

May 23rd, 2017


The guys decide to participate in One Book One New York, get on the bandwagon, and finally read Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie's Americanah. They discuss Obama, getting bloggers right, and what it's like for a city to read …

65: Bianca Bosker & "South and West"

May 9th, 2017


Bianca Bosker, author of Cork Dork: A Wine-Fueled Adventure Among the Obsessive Sommeliers, Big Bottle Hunters, and Rogue Scientists Who Taught Me to Live for Taste saunters into the Damn Library with gusto. She and the …

64: Melissa Febos & "Animals Strike Curious Poses"

April 25th, 2017


When Melissa Febos stops by the Damn Library to talk about her new book "Abandon Me," Christopher goes "Beyond Booze" for the drink, and Drew is also …

63: #TOB17 Wrap-Up with Nozlee

April 11th, 2017


Nozlee Samadzadeh-Hadidi, producer of The Tournament of Books for The Morning News, drops by the Damn Library to help wrap up this year's tournament with Christopher and Drew. Drinks are drunk, ancient history is …

62: Kaitlyn Greenidge & "Tipping the Velvet"

March 28th, 2017


Just before winning a Whiting Award, Kaitlyn Greenidge brought her debut novel "We Love You, Charlie Freeman" to the Damn Library. She confesses to hating animals, amongst other deep explications, and then we switch to …

61: Jonathan Lee & "Pereira Maintains"

March 21st, 2017


Jonathan Lee takes a dip into the Damn Library, talking his novel High Dive over a cocktail named after chlorine that surely doesn't taste like …

60: Francine Prose & "Hangsaman"

March 14th, 2017


Francine Prose joins C+D in the Damn Library for some lively talk of theater that misses the mark, thwarted ambitions, and following the characters …

59: In-Between Books ("Ongoingness" & "Multiple Choice")

February 28th, 2017


Drew and Christopher take a break from tournament reading to enjoy some books that break the mold, namely Alejandro Zambra's Multiple Choice and …

58: Megan Abbott & "Deep Water"

February 14th, 2017


Other than this sentence, not a single reference to Valentine's Day is in this podcast. Megan Abbott stops by the Damn Library with her newest novel, You Will Know Me. We discuss prodigies and the grit of teenage …

57: Tournament of Books 2017 Primer

January 31st, 2017


After a long hiatus, Drew and Christopher are back in the Damn Library, explaining what the Tournament of Books is, why they like it, and what seems like the favorite to win this year. 

New logo by Jefferson Wiggins. …

56: A Snowisode Holiday Spectacular!

December 19th, 2016


Snowed in, the guys decide to record an episode, because why not?

They discuss L. Frank Baum, and then an unexpected visitor shows up in the form of Uli Beutter Cohen, founder of Subway Book Review and co-creator of the …

55: "Six of Crows" & Top 6 of 2016!

December 12th, 2016


In this one, the guys look to escape their lives for a bit with some epic fantasy, and they do so via a duologetic ticket to Leigh Bardugo's …

54: Lisa Lutz & "Dirty Snow"

November 29th, 2016


The indomitable, incomparable Lisa Lutz stops by the Damn Library for a career retrospective. Drew and Christopher very nearly contain their rabid fandom and talk the Spellman Files series, "The Passenger," "Heads You …

53: Jade Chang & "Neon Green"

November 14th, 2016


Christopher and Drew are joined by Jade Chang to chat about a road trip, writing what is most challenging, and aliens. Jade likes how cozy it is in the library and the guys love how cozy "The Wangs vs. The World" is as …

52: Kathleen Donohoe & "Charming Billy"

October 19th, 2016


Kathleen Donohoe drops by the Damn Library to talk about her book, Ashes of Fiery Weather, and all the historical disasters contained within, as well as her personal connections to Brooklyn. Surprise '98 National Book …

51: Hannah Pittard & "I'm Thinking of Ending Things"

October 3rd, 2016


Hannah Pittard stops by the Damn Library to drink a classic cocktail bastardized by a substituted ingredient and discuss her book "Listen to Me" and Iain Reid's "I'm Thinking of Ending Things." Dread is discussed, as …

50: Teddy Wayne & "The Bed Moved"

September 16th, 2016


Christopher and Drew invite Teddy Wayne to the Damn Library, and he brings along his new "zeitgeist-y" novel, Loner, as well as Rebecca Schiff's …

49: Alexandra Kleeman & "Pricksongs and Descants"

August 31st, 2016


Christopher and Drew are joined by returning guest Alexandra Kleeman. They all drink a cocktail named after a character who moonlights in both her …

48: Episode Forty-Eight and the Cursed Child

August 23rd, 2016


Christopher and Drew drink Firewhiskey Juleps and get feisty about the new story in the Harry Potter-verse. Fan fiction, Sherlock Holmes, and second …

47: Backlist: Donna Tartt ("The Little Friend")

August 4th, 2016


Christopher and Drew sit down with a whiskey drink sweetened with the blood of maraschino cherries, and discuss Donna Tartt's marginalized sophomore novel, The Little Friend. Unjustly pushed to the side? Or lesser entry …

46: Evan Hanczor & "Their Eyes Were Watching God"

July 18th, 2016


Evan Hanczor, chef at Egg in Williamsburg, drops by the damn library with Tortilla Espanola and the tale of serving a meal inspired by Zora Neale …

45: Top Six of 2016 (so far)

June 28th, 2016


Christopher and Drew decide it's never too early for list making, and choose six favorites from the year to date (2016). Then they get out their crystal ball and look forward to books coming out for the rest of the …

44: YA feat. "Stargirl" & "Bone Gap"

June 14th, 2016


Drew and Christopher tackle YA through the 2001 classic Stargirl by Jerry Spinelli and the 2016 Printz Award Winner, Bone Gap by Laura Ruby. Grand theories are posited, the state of YA is considered, the line between YA …

43: Stephanie Danler & "Bluets"

May 31st, 2016


Stephanie Danler, author of the highly recommended Sweetbitter, joins the guys in the Damn Library for a chat about anything and everything. Food, identity, sex - you name it, they talk about it. TWO cocktails are …

42: Alexander Chee & "What Belongs to You"

May 18th, 2016


Alexander Chee stops into the Damn Library for a Lilliet and a discussion of his novel The Queen of the Night. Drew and Christopher ask after pop …

41: "Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail '72"

April 27th, 2016


Drew and Christopher see if they can draw any comparisons between the current election and Hunter S. Thompson's other Fear and Loathing book. Not the one that he goes to Las Vegas. Gonzo journalism is discussed, but …

40: #TOB16 Wrap-Up with Nozlee Samadzadeh and Will Chancellor

April 14th, 2016


And that's a wrap! What a tournament of books that was! Tournament of Books producer Nozlee and former contestant (with his book A Brave Man Seven Storeys Tall) Will Chancellor stop by the Damn Library to talk …

39: #TOB16 Chatter

March 28th, 2016


Drew and Christopher talk their brackets and re-reading. They wax nostalgic on the week past and dive deep into the remaining match-ups as we head into the finals. Plus, a bookish wager on who will take the Rooster home.

38: Katy Waldman & More #TOB16

March 21st, 2016


Katy Waldman stops by the Damn Library to drink "The Rooster" and prognosticate.

Jane Austen keeps getting updated, the trio relives the first round of the TOB's ups and downs, and then a deep dive into Fates and Furies …

37: Angela Flournoy & #TOB16

March 14th, 2016


Angela Flournoy, author of the Turner House, stops by the Damn Library, fresh off her Tournament of Books win in round one against Ban en Banlieue. She and the guys talk where she was when her novel published, whether …

36: Maris Kreizman & "The Invaders"

March 8th, 2016


It's tournament time!!

Christopher drinks a Slaughtering Mary, Drew and Maris Kreizman don't. They all discuss Maris' book/blog Slaughterhouse 90210 and Kickstarter, and then delve into the complexities of The Invaders

35: Mark de Silva & "Less than Zero"

February 24th, 2016


Over a round of Dark and Particularly Stormys, Drew and Christopher have the pleasure of chatting, friendly-like, with Mark de Silva, author of …

34: Laura Van Den Berg & "The Naked Eye"

February 10th, 2016


Laura Van Den Berg stops by the Damn Library to talk about her novel Find Me and Yoko Tawada's The Naked Eye. We also find out what tv show she can't stop repeating, and discuss a lot about getting lost, both physically …

33: The 2016 Tournament of Books Shortlist

February 3rd, 2016


Christopher and Drew can't contain their excitement - the short list for the Morning News' ToB 2016 is here, and they are discussing every title. …

32: "The Pickle Index"

January 13th, 2016


Drew and Christopher talk about what books they were given for Christmas, 2016 reading goals, experimentally designed books they love, and then Eli Horiwitz's The Pickle Index which they tried to experience it every …

31: Christopher and Drew's Top 6 of 2015

December 30th, 2015


The damn hosts choose 4 books they loved in 2015, and one book each that the other didn't read/love. Also, one to grow on.

Bye-bye, 2015! You were a year.

15 seconds of a song: The Jackson 5 - Never Can Say Goodbye

30: Marie-Helene Bertino & "A Little Life"

December 17th, 2015


Marie-Helene Bertino stops by the deck hall'd Damn Library in full seasonal good cheer to talk about her novel, 2 A.M. at the Cat's Pajamas. Holiday …

29: Ryan Britt & "Star Wars: Heir to the Empire"

December 2nd, 2015


Ryan Britt stops by the Damn Library to explain the deeper meanings of why Luke Skywalker Can't Read (which is also the title of his new essay …

28: Alexandra Kleeman & "The Blind Owl"

November 17th, 2015


Alexandra Kleeman takes So Many Damn Books down the rabbit hole as Drew and Christopher discuss her novel, You Too Can Have a Body Like Mine, as well …

27: "Hunger Makes Me a Modern Girl"

November 7th, 2015


The two nonmaj/muggles discuss Harry Potter spinoffs, whether or not they listen to music when they read, and Carrie Brownstein's memoir Hunger Makes Me a Modern Girl.

~15 seconds of a song: Sleater-Kinney "The Fox"

26: "City on Fire" & "Purity"

October 23rd, 2015


Christopher institutes a new buying books rule for himself, Drew likes scary books, and they both have very different opinions on City on Fire by …

25: Happy Birthday!

October 6th, 2015


The gentlemen discuss their favorite book they've read for the podcast so far, a few books they'd like to see in the next Tournament of Books, and tell you how to win a copy of City on Fire by Garth Risk Hallberg. …

24: Will Chancellor Strikes Back

September 22nd, 2015


With Drew under quarantine (he caught the plague), the guys call on Will Chancellor to step in. He returns to the Damn Library to go deep with Christopher on Jesse Ball's latest novel, "A Cure for Suicide".

15 Seconds …

23: Vanessa Manko ("The Invention of Exile") & "The English Patient"

September 10th, 2015


Vanessa Manko drops in to talk about how writing is like dancing, her novel The Invention of Exile's editing journey, and they all discuss The English Patient, and suggest a novel they'd like to see made into a movie.


22: Isaac Fitzgerald & "Infinite Home"

August 25th, 2015


Isaac Fitzgerald skates by the Damn Library and joins the guys to talk about his Pen & Ink series, Kathleen Alcott's "Infinite Home", and the joys of recommending books. Hilarity ensues. Also maybe some 80s metal.


21: Summer. Reading.

August 12th, 2015


The guys introduce a new segment ("Reading Comprehension"), which leads to some serious questions. They also discuss their summer reading habits, the Man Booker longlist, and Christopher continues to shame Drew for not …

20: Ferrante Fever / "My Brilliant Friend"

July 28th, 2015


In which Drew and Christopher wonder what spumoni is (it's ice cream), talk about the books they bought, discuss Elena Ferrante and the first book in …

19: Comics / "Sex Criminals"

July 14th, 2015


Summer break is over and the guys return to the Damn Library to discuss graphic novels, comics, brimping, and Matt Fraction & Chip Zdarsky's "Sex Criminals".


15 Seconds of a Song: "Desire", Years & Years

Learn …

18: Saeed Jones ("Prelude to Bruise") & "Citizen: An American Lyric"

June 8th, 2015


BuzzFeed Literary Editor Saeed Jones drops by the Damn Library to talk about his PEN/Joyce Osterweil Award-winning collection "Prelude to Bruise", …

17: Lev Grossman & "Mrs. Dalloway"

May 18th, 2015


In which Lev Grossman visits the Damn Library to talk about his Magicians trilogy and (one of his) favorite book(s) of all time: Virginia Woolf's …

16: The Recommendation Game / "Whiskey Tango Foxtrot" by David Shafer

May 5th, 2015


The Guys discuss the business of recommending books, then they discuss Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, a @biblioracle recommendation. 

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15: Catherine Lacey

April 20th, 2015


In which Catherine Lacey (author of "Nobody is Ever Missing") drops by the Manhattan branch of the Damn Library! Drinks are made, bathtubs are revealed, and escape is discussed (among many other things).

Learn more …

14: ToB Wrap-Up & Call-In

April 10th, 2015


The guys chat with ToB Commish Kevin Guilfoile about the ToB and his writing, then get some friends from the commentariat on the phone including Neighbors73, BradMcGinty, Melanie, and itsonlyzach.  The ToB is over, long …

13: Tournament Gab / Jeff VanderMeer & "Annihiliation"

March 29th, 2015

  • More Surprises and More Upsets in the Tournament!
  • Jeff VanderMeer discusses "Annihilation" and the ToB!
  • Predictions for the final!
  • Featuring The …

12: Tournament Talk / John Warner & "Tough Day for the Army"

March 22nd, 2015

  • One year of Friendship
  • Surprises and Upsets in the Tournament of Books
  • John Warner talks his role in the tourney, McSweeney's, and "Tough Day for …

11: "A Brave Man Seven Storeys Tall" by Will Chancellor

March 8th, 2015

  • "A Brave Man Seven Storeys Tall"
  • The Settlement, a "Brave Man"-inspired cocktail
  • Will Chancellor is Very Smart
  • ToB15 prognostications and …

10: Event Books / "The Bone Clocks"

February 23rd, 2015

  • Guest Star: Luke Wiget
  • Event Books
  • "The Bone Clocks" by David Mitchell
  • Recommendations
  • Farewell to Luke and the DoctorDR studio

Learn more about …

9: Audiobooks / "Everything I Never Told You" / Interview: Emily St. John Mandel

February 9th, 2015

  • Teaser
  • Audiobooks
  • "Everything I Never Told You" by Celeste Ng
  • Interview: Emily St. John Mandel (author of "Station Eleven")
  • Recommendations

Learn …


January 26th, 2015

  • Stephen King, Stephen King, Stephen King
  • First King
  • Favorite King
  • Stephen King's "Revival"
  • Recommendations

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7: Non-Fiction / "Not That Kind of Girl"

January 12th, 2015

  • Happy New Year!
  • Non-Fiction
  • Celebrity Memoirs
  • "Not That Kind of Girl" by Lena Dunham
  • Recommendations
  • 15 Seconds of a Song: The Blow, "Come On …

6: Literary Awards / "Missing Person"

December 29th, 2014


Reading Habits Literary Awards Missing Person by Patrick Modiano

Drew and Christopher's Top 5 of 2014 Lists 15 seconds of a song: DJ Deville's Auld …

5: Pastiches / "The Beekeeper's Apprentice"

December 15th, 2014


"A Christmas Carol" Postertext Giveaway (Tell your friends to listen to the show on social media and email us about it at

4: Gimmicks / "Horrorstör"

December 1st, 2014


Holiday Theme Music! Second Chance Authors Gimmicks Horrorstör by Grady Hendrix Parting Recommendations recorded at the Dr. Doctor studio in …

3: Games / "Wolf in White Van"

November 17th, 2014


The Future Library Project, Margaret Atwood, and authors we think should be included next Games in Books Wolf in White Van by John Darnielle Parting …

2: Series / "Southern Reach" vs "The Magicians"

November 3rd, 2014

  • Welcome Back
  • Kids Series to Revisit
  • The Southern Reach Trilogy by Jeff VanderMeer & The Magicians trilogy by Lev Grossman
  • Parting Recommendations

1: Dystopia / "Station Eleven"

October 20th, 2014

  • Introductions
  • Classics Revisited
  • Dystopia
  • Station Eleven by Emily St. John Mandel
  • Parting Recommendations

recorded at the Dr. Doctor studio in …

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