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Smart Mouth

205 EpisodesProduced by Katherine Spiers / TableCakes ProductionsWebsite

Smart Mouth is a podcast that cares mostly about food. We talk to the most interesting people we know, working in all kinds of industries, about their favorite dishes. It's a way of finding out what makes them tick. The podcast is brought to you by Katherine Spiers, the former food editor at L.A. We… read more

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Announcement

June 8th, 2021

0:55

Check out Deep Cuts and Superficial Wounds.

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Mochi with Me

May 26th, 2021

9:37

Mochi doesn't just mean ice cream, y'all.

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Food of Singapore with Kheng Hua Tan

May 19th, 2021

1:11:39

A star of Crazy Rich Asians, who is from Singapore, talks about the truly international food scene she grew up with - why is it like that?

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Pineapples with Andrew Ti

May 13th, 2021

1:04:00

Brazil, Hawai'i, disastrous marketing, and pineapple upside-down cake.

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Guinness and Ireland with Emily Hourican

May 6th, 2021

1:17:34

Beer, religion, and the British aristocrats who were actually Nazis.

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Garlic Bread with Andrea Wallace

April 28th, 2021

57:55

People have always had very strong, and sometimes very weird, opinions about garlic.

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Enchiladas with Molly Lambert

April 3rd, 2021

55:47

What we want when we want to go to dinner.

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Breadlines and Famines with Jeremy Bowditch

March 26th, 2021

1:26:25

Breadlines: invented in the US.

Famine: always manmade, always political.

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Kraft Macaroni & Cheese

March 17th, 2021

19:01

Just what was James Lewis Kraft getting up to in his kitchen?

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Pocky with Tien Nguyen

March 11th, 2021

57:30

One of the planet's favorite treats ... with a history that got quite weird in the '80s.

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Breakfast with Kate Willett

March 3rd, 2021

57:13

Intuitive eating wasn’t always a monetized concept - it’s just how people ate. (If you don’t have to clock in at work, you can eat whenever you want.)

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Tabbouleh (and Lebanese Food) with Nicole Georges

February 24th, 2021

48:06

A vegan who ate raw meat as a baby now finds joy in parsley.

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Coconut Shrimp with Julia Loken

February 17th, 2021

1:05:58

“Mercury in retrograde” is finally explained. Julia is an astrologer with a sense of humor about it, and a lover of exquisite foods such as coconut …

Tracing the West African Diaspora with Ozoz Sokoh

February 10th, 2021

53:58

West Africa’s influence on global cuisine: it’s there if you look for it.

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Broccoli in Iceland with Jewells Chambers

February 3rd, 2021

1:07:36

Expat vs immigrant, explaining Trump to foreigners, what are we doing on social media - no, really, what are we doing. Plus being a vegan in Iceland, …

Lunch Counters with Max Falkowitz

January 27th, 2021

51:51

Lunch counters vs delis vs sandwich shops - is it all semantics? Sometimes. But not when we're talking about the 1960s. (And, no, tuna melts were not created by accident.)

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Community Cookbooks with Paula Forbes

January 20th, 2021

51:49

Canned tamales and the mysteries of Reese Witherspoon (ham parties?) with journalist and cookbook author Paula Forbes. And hey: just how WASPy are …

Coffee with Nick Cho

January 13th, 2021

1:01:05

Secretly good German coffee, filthy British pamphleteers of 17th century England, and the port of Mocha with Your Korean Dad, Nick Cho.

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Diversity in Native American Food with Loretta Barrett Oden

December 16th, 2020

55:01

"Native American food" is incredibly diverse. Loretta Barrett Oden, chef and member of Citizen Potawatomi Nation, has studied the foodways of North …

Peppermint with Niccole Thurman

December 9th, 2020

43:40

What is “childhood”? When was it invented? The same time as candy canes? 

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Eggnog with Drew Mackie

December 2nd, 2020

38:01

Do you enjoy eggnog without alcohol? Plus, peach schnapps trauma, a detour through Television Without Pity, and Her Majesty's Milk Punch. 

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Christmas Cookies with Kim-Joy

November 25th, 2020

40:05

The GBBO star on reassuring baking, the invention of Christmas bribery, and the uniquely American "cookies and milk" combo.

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Beef Stroganoff with Jeff Gordinier

November 18th, 2020

53:12

“Mushroom soup cuisine,” crab cobbler, Eric Ripert’s hunkiness, McDonald’s memories, and the outrageously wealthy Stroganoff dynasty. You can listen to Smart Mouth on iTunes, on Stitcher, on Spotify. Check out all …

Flavor with Nik Sharma

November 11th, 2020

50:00

The most science-based episode yet - don’t worry, it was only Nik explaining science, I wasn’t putting on airs. Here's what it comes down to: different people like different foods, and that’s okay.

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Flamin' Hot Cheetos with Noah Cho

October 28th, 2020

51:51

The surprisingly uplifting origin story of Flamin' Hot Cheetos, with a detour through 1940s wellness beliefs.

Richard Montanez on The Passionate Few 

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Regency England with Bea Koch

October 21st, 2020

50:03

The British Regency Era was pretty much as Jane Austen represented it - except everyone was banging everyone. Truly unhinged levels of banging. They …

Craft Service with Emmy Raver-Lampman

October 14th, 2020

39:54

The Hamilton and Umbrella Academy star tells us what the food's like on theatre, TV, and movie productions. Especially with all those union rules.

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West African Food with Eric Adjepong

October 7th, 2020

41:16

DC versus Baltimore, introducing African food to Top Chef, and the origins of jollof rice and why it’s so dang important. Hibiscus is important, too! …

Penang Curry with Caleb Hearon

September 29th, 2020

40:08

A curry for the people! 

Say, as an omnivore, what meat WON’T you eat, and why?

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Russian Food with Sofiya Alexandra

September 23rd, 2020

52:08

Taste the capitalism in this discussion of Russian food, Soviet food, and semantics with Sofiya Alexandra.

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Tacos with José R. Ralat

September 15th, 2020

57:09

José R. Ralat has an amazing job title: Taco Editor, Texas Monthly. His new book American Tacos explores the history and regionality of the country's greatest import/export. Kansas City tacos? They're the business.

Lee Anne Wong, Nini Nguyen, & Melissa King

May 6th, 2020

53:26

Secrets of Top Chef and how to fix the restaurant industry with Lee Anne Wong, Nini Nguyen, and Melissa King. Want food stories from around the world? Subscribe to the Smart Mouth newsletter here:

La Dolce Vita with Erica Firpo

April 29th, 2020

49:22

How Italians and Americans use technology differently (it’s cultural), la dolce vita - but more importantly, dolce far niente - and the perfect Roman …

Soda Pop Part III: Diet Coke

April 8th, 2020

38:33

Prince William! Teddy Savalas! Rockettes! They all have something do to with Diet Coke. Or "diet Coke," with a lower case d. Those Coca-Cola lawyers …

Soda Pop Part II: Ginger Ale & Mountain Dew

April 1st, 2020

36:12

More soda pop madness! It's all about the moonshine mixers. Listen to part one here: https://soundcloud.com/smartmouthpodcast/soda-pop-history-invented-7-up-lithium-pepsi Want food stories from around the world? …

Soda Pop: Part I

March 25th, 2020

33:17

Today we talk generally about the start of the soda pop industry (unlicensed pharmacists! Cocaine everywhere!), and next week we'll (that's Katherine and Drew Mackie) get to listener-requested specifics. Ginger ale is …

Key Lime Pie with Rebecca Leib

March 18th, 2020

50:03

Oh, you thought you knew. Or at least I did, but turns out the history of Key lime pie isn't quite what I thought it was. Tell me: meringue or whipped cream? Want food stories from around the world? Subscribe to the …

Chocolate with DeAnne Smith

March 11th, 2020

1:01:09

Is your appetite for chocolate ruined by the end of this? Or, can you recommend a source of ethical (like, actually ethical) chocolate? DeAnne Smith …

Icebox Cake with Jessie Sheehan

March 4th, 2020

38:11

What is “silver cake”? Jessie Sheehan knows! My continued bafflement with GBBO, feminine foods, and alcohol in your cake. Do you buy Nabisco …

Meatloaf with Ashley Blaine Featherson

February 26th, 2020

50:33

Ashley Blaine Featherson is here to tell you how to make the best meatloaf - and also how not to ruin it. Is scrapple a meatloaf? Please subscribe to this podcast in iTunes or any podcast app so you never miss an …

Linzer Torte with Flula Borg

February 19th, 2020

47:48

One of the greatest desserts in the Austrian canon. No offense to House of Pies. Please subscribe to this podcast in iTunes or any podcast app so you never miss an episode!

Maraschino Cherries with Courtney Nichols

February 12th, 2020

54:04

Is a maraschino cherry the most important cocktail garnish? (And how is it pronounced, marasheeno or maraskino?) Please subscribe to this podcast in iTunes or any podcast app so you never miss an episode!

Salami with Allen Strickland Williams

February 5th, 2020

59:04

Salami’s pretty funky. This episode brought to you by Lobster Gram. Go to https://www.lobstergram.com/ & use promocode SMARTMOUTHLOVE to take 20% off all products. Please subscribe to this podcast in iTunes or any …

Spam with Helen Hong

January 29th, 2020

49:01

“Meatloaf without basic training” aka Spam, had quite a journey in Korea, from symbol of privation to elegant gift. And there are so many flavors!

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Spaghetti Carbonara with Niccole Thurman

January 22nd, 2020

35:43

So, do you put cream in your carbonara? This episode brought to you by Lobster Gram. Go to https://www.lobstergram.com/ & use promocode SMARTMOUTHLOVE to take 20% off all products. Please subscribe to this podcast …

Grits with Kelli Ferrell

January 15th, 2020

35:56

Two questions: Is Maryland the north? Can you tell where someone’s from by what they put in their grits? I'll be on Instagram Live this Thursday, January 16th at 7pm Pacific time to talk about our favorite kinds of …

History of Home Economics with Shauna Sever

December 18th, 2019

1:00:17

There's much love for the midwest in this episode. It's the birthplace of most of this country's great home economists - and yes, they were and are great. Shauna Sever joins to talk about wellness and personal brands, …

Creme Brulee with Hadley Meares

December 11th, 2019

49:09

Food stories prove that nothing means anything! Fellow podcaster Hadley Meares tells us about Los Angeles history versus Hollywood history then we …

Kefir with Liana Aghajanian

December 4th, 2019

42:12

We wouldn’t have kefir without god and kidnapping. Liana Aghajanian tells us about Armenian culinary tradition in America, and the Armenian diaspora …

Onion Dip with Steve Hernandez

November 27th, 2019

41:39

Steve Hernandez encourages us all to have a nice life, even knowing we’ll never retire. Dip-related Thanksgiving traditions, authentic factory-made foods, and the mysteries of ranch dressing - Hillary Clinton made a …

Cantaloupe with Lynn Chen

November 20th, 2019

45:08

This singing wolf of a fruit is called by the wrong name in the US, but Lynn Chen doesn't care, it's her favorite food - or maybe muskmelon is. TW …

Champagne with Sarah Enni

November 13th, 2019

1:05:34

Cursing in YA novels, the importance of enchiladas, the role that Champagnes caves played in the war effort, Catholic innovations in alcohol and the …

Rotisserie Chicken with Dominique Kelley

November 6th, 2019

58:53

Rebuking pressure, dance vs animal science, France and Peru, tales from Taylor Swift’s tour, and vitamins in fat(aka dark meat is better) with dancer and choreographer Dominique Kelley. This episode brought to you by …

Pad See Ew with Shalewa Sharpe

October 30th, 2019

56:32

Being an Ugly American, the subtle nuances of “Thailand was never colonized,” and Laotian food on the upswing in this talk about the ultimate hug in …

Boiled Peanuts with Neil Young

October 23rd, 2019

59:28

A multi-continent botanical and sociological tour of 3/4ths of the planet with historian Neil Young, who no longer lives in the South but loves this …

Eggs with Brooke Van Poppelen

October 16th, 2019

50:15

Raw egg shakes, saving the world while grossing out grocery store cashiers, and perhaps even more proof that Christopher Columbus was bad at his job, …

Halo-Halo with Margarita Manzke

October 9th, 2019

37:59

Filipino food humor, Jesuits in Japan, and dessert beans are on the table as Katherine and James Beard-nominated chef Margarita Manzke talk about what may be the prettiest dessert in the world, halo-halo. Join Katherine …

Crab Cakes with Hayes Davenport

October 2nd, 2019

56:13

New episode! Hayes Davenport talks about overwhelming menus, charging lobster to your father-in-law, and ye olde crab recipes. He also raises an …

Replay: Food of Hawaii with Sarah Kuhn

September 18th, 2019

1:01:25

Author Sarah Kuhn talks about “the lunchbox moment,” Claudia Kishi, the word “hapa,” and the waves of immigration to Hawaii that led to its current cuisine. Smart Mouth is on Patreon: www.patreon.com/smartmouthpodcast

Replay: Baguettes with Rose Lawrence

September 11th, 2019

42:36

Lawyer-turned-baker Rose Lawrence joins Katherine to talk witchcraft, baking and the rather bloody history of France's most famous bread, the baguette. Smart Mouth is on Patreon: www.patreon.com/smartmouthpodcast

Replay: Jerk Chicken with Danielle Salmon

August 28th, 2019

41:15

Jamaica's favorite dish with food blogger Danielle Salmon of Follow My Gut. Drunk Laura Ingalls Wilder comes up, too. Smart Mouth is on Patreon:

Replay: Dumplings with Scott Conant

August 21st, 2019

37:10

Expensive spaghetti, shirtless cooking and fights on the set of Chopped. And dumplings! Smart Mouth is on Patreon: www.patreon.com/smartmouthpodcast www.instagram.com/smartmouthpodcast/

Replay: Prison Food with Danny Trejo

August 14th, 2019

43:12

Danny Trejo talks about prison: when he was incarcerated vs. how it is now (a "warehouse of insanity"), using commissary for protection, and how bad …

Replay: Vegan Life with Matt Donnelly

August 7th, 2019

42:10

This is just a partial exploration of veganism: specifically the England-based kind. Not the ancient, religious kind. And, the fast food and health food industries have the exact same goals! Smart Mouth is on Patreon:

Replay: Peanut Butter Cups with Brooke Williamson

July 31st, 2019

50:56

As a Top Chef contestant and owner of multiple restaurants, Brooke Williamson know about fancy food. She also knows about peanut butter. This deep …

Replay: Pho with Andrea Nguyen

July 24th, 2019

1:05:55

Truly an education in Vietnamese food. Andrea knows so much! Smart Mouth is on Patreon: www.patreon.com/smartmouthpodcast

Replay: Cuban Sandwiches with Adam Lustick & Billy Scafuri

July 17th, 2019

1:02:25

BLATs and meat smashes with Billy Scafuri and Adam Lustick, the two hosts of the No Joke podcast. Plus the Junior League and pirate culture. Smart …

Replay: Sukiyaki with Niki Nakayama

July 10th, 2019

35:13

The culinary consultant for Always Be My Maybe, Niki Nakayama is the chef at n/naka, one of the hardest restaurants to get a table at in the country …

TV Dinners with Drew Mackie

June 5th, 2019

56:42

TV dinners are part of the military industrial complex, man. (But truly they are.) Television aficionado Drew Mackie of Gayest Episode Ever talks …

Fermentation with Avery Ruzicka

May 29th, 2019

59:45

This one’s for the bread nerds and the fermentation geeks! Manresa baker Avery Ruzicka talks about what happens when your bread starter dies and how to come back from that, yeast strains, and living an Eric Ripert …

Rice with Sheldon Simeon

May 22nd, 2019

44:38

Hawaii’s rice culture - and its rice crops - with Sheldon Simeon. Plus life after Top Chef, retirement dreams, and letting go of a certain colonial …

Boston Favorites with Barbara Lynch

May 15th, 2019

37:32

The importance of both home ec and Howard Johnson’s mac and cheese; plus, how to eat a lobster with Boston chef Barbara Lynch, who explains what a "frappe" is. And that I've been pronouncing it wrong. Smart Mouth is on …

Burritos with Frank Shyong

May 8th, 2019

43:39

What is your ideal burrito? LA Times columnist Frank Shyong on racism in baseball, "taco” vs “burrito," and growing up in Tennessee and learning …

Louisiana Boudin with Meatball

May 1st, 2019

55:15

Trader Joe’s: trash, or not? Plus, Dragula, Cajun food dares, Enlightenment era marriage and the Boudin Trail with drag queen Meatball. And soggy …

Cookbooks with Maria Zizka

April 24th, 2019

55:52

When cookbooks go wrong, but also when they are correct. Recipe writer and cookbook author (and Katherine's friend from way back) Maria Zizka talks about the history of these important works, and how they get made …

Raclette with Eric Lampaert

April 17th, 2019

56:49

Swiss cheese and Swiss cheese perverts, asking your doctor about illegal drugs, fluid passport situations, and varying levels of lactose intolerance …

Cannabis with Vanessa Lavorato

April 10th, 2019

49:20

The very strict and expensive rules about cannabis dosing; cold water hash and caramel; and tips for visiting See’s Candies with Bong Appetit's …

Mofongo with Miles Gray

April 3rd, 2019

58:25

Eating fufu in Ghana and mofongo in New York; Eric Adjepong from Top Chef; tips for ordering late-night bbq and ... the phenomenon of taking “fun” …

Mayonnaise with Curtis Cook

March 27th, 2019

1:05:54

The legality of Miracle Whip, lobbyists for dressings and sauces, nude dinners, mayonnaise pamphlets, and wellness versus diet with comic Curtis Cook.

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Food Media with Soleil Ho

March 20th, 2019

43:59

“Leisure history,” fortune cookie rants, hobnobbing, that Chez Panisse review, and internet trolls with San Francisco Chronicle restaurant critic …

Italy with Katie Parla

March 13th, 2019

45:21

Professional pizza eater Katie Parla on sensual tomatoes, Italian unification, and the specialties of south (different than southern!) Italy.

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Live at Double Barrel with Mohanad Elshieky

March 6th, 2019

38:33

Oregon's great contribution to food culture, potato councils, and the best brunches in Portland with comedian Mohanad Elshieky. Thank you to:

Tourist Towns with Ken Layne

February 27th, 2019

1:01:07

Desert mythologies, like Desert Sasquatch and Yucca Man (they’re different). The desert economy, and opening restaurants in a tourist town - if …

Cheese & Crackers with Anna Hossnieh

February 20th, 2019

53:43

So much to learn about Persian cuisine! And the best way to travel in Iran! Plus, Lunchables and the perfect cheese plate. Smart Mouth is on Patreon: www.patreon.com/smartmouthpodcast www.instagram.com/smartmouthpodcast/

Fried Chicken with Josh Zad

February 13th, 2019

51:15

First-, second- and third-wave coffee, Melrose Place, and how to order chicken in Farsi. Josh Zad loves fried chicken and is the best Beverly Hills tour guide I've ever met. Plus some notes on the topic from Mike …

Pickles with Gaby Dunn

February 6th, 2019

53:05

The best day of her life was at a racetrack! Plus Diet Coke addiction, adventures in scurvy, and fangirling over Sarah Taber. Buy tickets to Smart Mouth with Mohanad Elshieky in Portland: www.listenupportland.com/ Smart …

Taco Bell with Jon Gabrus

January 30th, 2019

1:27:50

Wichita vs Los Angeles, evil billionaires, food pastes, and the classiest joints in Vegas. Buy tickets to Smart Mouth with Mohanad Elshieky in Portland: https://www.listenupportland.com/ Smart Mouth is on Patreon:

Greek Yogurt with Natasha Case

January 23rd, 2019

58:33

Mistakes, broken laws, and ice cream sandwiches. And then the government pours bleach on your food. Then your public defender hires you to cater a party. All that, and bacterial mysteries. Smart Mouth is on Patreon:

A Chef's Life with Jacques Pepin

January 9th, 2019

50:13

Jacques Pepin, the legendary French chef who changed American cuisine, joined Katherine to remember when cheffing was a blue-collar job; turning down …

Replay: Disgusting Things with Caitlin Doughty

January 2nd, 2019

55:37

Celebrity mortician Caitlin Doughty talks about the funeral industry, sharing a bedroom with a dead body, the gnarliness of the Victorian era, worms …

Replay: Pies, Crumbles & Grunts with Sam Pancake

December 19th, 2018

54:34

Actor Sam Pancake shares his strict rules about cobblers, talks about bacon grease as a secret ingredient, and reflects on shooting the TV show …

Cookie Everything

December 12th, 2018

11:00

Are chocolate chip cookies the ultimate expression of cookie-ness? Plus, cookie recipe contest winners are announced! Smart Mouth is on Patreon:

Cauliflower with Brandon Gray

December 5th, 2018

45:54

Crudites, accoutrements, and primordial curd with chef Brandon Gray, who specializes in seafood and learned to cook in the Navy. Coincidence? A highly intriguing grilled cheese recipe, and some tips on cooking with …

Bonus Episode! Live from Scoopfest: Mai Tais with Allan Katz

December 3rd, 2018

28:33

Extreme rum nerdery from Scoopfest 2018! Mai tais and tiki were the topics with Allan Katz of Jammyland in Las Vegas. Dram shop laws, Howard Hughes’ germophobia, and rum as rite of passage. Tiki spots mentioned in the …

Ladies Who Lunch with Valerie Gordon

November 28th, 2018

1:01:13

The feminist history of the trope “women be shopping.” What if the origin of the department store is the Old West general store? Plus the process of …

Salad with April Wolfe

November 21st, 2018

1:00:33

A deep hatred of Craisins, lessons learned at the Steak ‘n Shake, and rank and provocative excresences with film critic April Wolfe. Plus, Jell-O …

Nut Butters with Jessica Liu He

November 14th, 2018

52:58

Peanut butter’s rise, fall and rise as a health food. The world of allergies, including wrongful-death lawsuits. Cashews: the junk food of the nut …

American Chinese Food with Edgar Momplaisir

November 7th, 2018

57:54

“Blue zones” (it’s not political), Adventists vs heavy drinkers, cheap meat, and tomfoolery at the New York Times with Edgar Momplaisir. I propose …

Khachapuri with Josh Scherer

October 31st, 2018

51:30

Coke Zero, debasing yourself on the internet, how much we want to go to Georgia - the country. Food YouTuber (is that the phrase?) Josh Scherer also talks about the Dionysus-wine-Jesus connection, JK Rowling’s …

Pasta with Adam Roberts

October 24th, 2018

48:19

"Old guard” food blogger Adam Roberts on transitioning to TV writing, remembering the sitcom version of Kitchen Confidential, and pasta snobbery. Plus some pasta and sauce recipes, and the authenticity of chicken and …

Sweet Potatoes with Jenné Claiborne

October 17th, 2018

58:33

The difference between sweet potatoes and yams, explained - finally. Vegan baking tips, botanical archaeology, and the scams that the wheat lobby and …

Borscht with Olivia Smoliga

October 10th, 2018

45:22

An Olympic gold medalist! But .. what is her job, exactly? Swimmer Olivia Smoliga explains that, plus McDonald’s vs Starbucks for breakfast, …

Bolognese with Shirley Chung

October 3rd, 2018

29:35

The "Top Chef" alum on spending a month in Italy and getting snobby about the food in Bologna, a big Ryanair gaffe, and her love of anything dough. …

Food of Barbados with Michael Harrison

September 26th, 2018

43:43

Bajan food is world-class and chef Michael Harrison wants you to know about it - for instance, cutters, rum shops, and beautiful breadfruit. Plus a …

Spicy Food with Judy Joo

September 19th, 2018

31:31

Benign masochism, messed-up spicy versus emotionally spicy, adrenaline rushes, gochujang, and “to kimchi” with chef Judy Joo. And her eating recommendations for London and Hong Kong. Smart Mouth is on Patreon - …

Hot Sauce with Llewellyn Clarke

September 12th, 2018

30:17

Silly peppers, macho competitions, and the differences between Saint Kitts and Nevis. Plus, Christopher Columbus's shocking stupidity that led to us …

McConnell's Fine Ice Creams with Michael Palmer

September 5th, 2018

55:11

We're talking business today: McConnell's, which is Katherine's favorite supermarket ice cream. The company's new owner answers the question: what do you do when your house burns down? (No, seriously.) Smart Mouth is on …

Ramen with Sherry Villanueva

August 29th, 2018

29:05

When something is so popular you have to stop doing it, the American wheat insistence, and the semi-religious origins of ramen. Plus, a remembrance …

California Ranching with Elizabeth Poett

August 22nd, 2018

34:33

Rancher Elizabeth Poett's ancestor from Spain was given a rancho in California. Now, she's finding new money-making ventures in a very old industry. …

Cobb Salad with John Cox

August 15th, 2018

39:44

Bacon trickery, BBQ nerdery, and salads for people who hate salad. Plus, some inside baseball on cattle rating (there’s grade inflation), how chef …

Matzo Ball Soup with Mara Wilson

August 8th, 2018

55:05

Mara Wilson shares an excellent childhood co-worker crush, plus Daniel Mallory Ortberg, Nicole Cliffe, and Great British Bake-Off fandoms (all …

Peaches with Guy Branum

August 1st, 2018

48:10

School-night desserts, what a farmer means by “prune,” when almonds and peaches do it, and post-Civil War peach propaganda with comic, podcaster and …

Ice Cream Trucks

July 18th, 2018

19:36

When non-pasteurized goes wrong, the mob’s influence on ice cream trucks in Youngstown and Chicago (and wild theories about it), and RACISM. Plus a very important announcement. Smart Mouth is on Patreon - contribute and …

Popsicles

July 11th, 2018

18:24

Are all origin stories lies? Plus, San Francisco weather patterns of 1905 (it’s relevant, I swear) and Popsicle Pete. What is “healthy”? What is “artificial”? Guess what’s worse than a brain freeze? Smart Mouth is on …

Tater Tots

July 4th, 2018

15:55

Latchkey kid cuisine and edible glue - there’s always money in the potato farm. Let us see your tater tots! Smart Mouth is on Patreon - contribute and help keep this thing going! www.patreon.com/smartmouthpodcast

S'mores

June 27th, 2018

19:44

National S'mores Days is August 10 - be sure to tag us in your campfire photos! Which do you prefer: a light toast or a full char? Plus, tramping …

Chicken & Waffles with Carl Tart

June 20th, 2018

46:47

High-speed chases, his boss and my ex, the religious history of waffle irons, European KFC, and different varieties of tacos (and taa-kos)with TV …

Gumbo with Maggie Maye

June 13th, 2018

46:30

Comedian Maggie Maye is here to talk about gumbo. But also: the objectively best style of French fries, garbage queso, the joy of filling out customer comment cards, Official State Meals, and witches’ brews. Smart Mouth …

Boba with Chris Fleming

June 6th, 2018

1:05:26

Greased-up showpig Chris Fleming on the confidence required to wear hats, a hummingbird diet, cheesecake-makin’ nuns, power sneezing and big ol’ …

Eggs Benedict with Lorena Garcia

May 30th, 2018

26:39

Lorena Garcia explains how a chef tastes everything every night, and describes her take on eggs benedict. Plus, toaster crumpets, “what is a week-end?” and starting beef with Scott Conant. And finally: mimosa, bellini, …

Pimento Cheese with Andrew Knowlton

May 23rd, 2018

39:24

Pimento vs pimiento, cream cheese vs mayonnaise, Coke vs Pepsi, delicious energy bars and unexpected golf drama with Bon Appetit editor-at-large …

Tikka Masala with Claudette Zepeda-Wilkins

May 16th, 2018

45:46

The Partition, Scottish lies, and that straight-up freak Queen Victoria with restaurant owner and former Top Chef contestant Claudette Zepeda-Wilkins. Plus, practical cannibalism and “The Butchering Art.” Smart Mouth is …

Sizzler, Souplantation & Salad Bars with Jenny Yang

May 9th, 2018

56:16

Jenny Yang on self-promotion in a gig economy, funeral potatoes, the cultural power of Wisconsin, the vile 1970s, and salad bars as “the most …

Tamales with Alana Jones-Mann

May 2nd, 2018

43:17

Growing up on the US-Mexico border with baker Alana Jones-Mann, Netflix’s influence on veganism, and a reminder to Trump voters for Cinco de Mayo! …

Ceviche with Justin Ward & Serena Quintana-Patterson

April 25th, 2018

50:07

FAT TOM, CIA vs CIA, misspelled food tattoos, aliens, and the East Asian influence on Peruvian cuisine in this wide-ranging talk about marinated fish …

Guacamole with Gaby Dalkin

April 18th, 2018

41:29

The history of slutty brownies (it involves Jessica Simpson breaking a website), Queer Eye’s Antoni and the guacamole controversy, and feathered …

Mongolian BBQ with Ryan Arnold & Tim Smith

April 11th, 2018

42:18

The business of wine, the subjectivity of wine, and the temperature of wine with Ryan Arnold and Tim Smith, plus lighthearted trickery, Benihana …

Red Velvet Cake with Lennon Parham

April 4th, 2018

39:27

Lady Dynamite and Playing House star Lennon Parham on church cookbooks, Girl Scouts shenanigans, and the proper way to make sweet tea. Plus: why is it called "red velvet"? Listeners: do you love or hate mayonnaise? …

Happy Hour with Georgia Hardstark

March 28th, 2018

43:54

Georgia Hardstark joins Katherine to talk microdosing, old-timey self-care, Taco Bell Cantina, and the Starbucks Illuminati. Plus lying grandpas and …

Cheeseburgers with Neil Saavedra

March 21st, 2018

51:28

Freedom fries, Liberty cabbage, and the greatest American invention: cheeseburgers. Guest Neil Saavedra knows he's not Jesus, but he has opinions on the Impossible Burger, meat hygiene, and having an ass for radio. …

Writing vs Blogging with Esther Tseng

March 14th, 2018

52:28

Let's pull back the curtain on both blogging and traditional journalism. Media literacy, telling the story vs being the story, a tip for aspiring …

Xiao Long Bao, XLB, Soupy Dumplings with Anthony Cailan

March 7th, 2018

40:24

Bordeaux for everyone! The best dumplings on the planet with wine ambassador Anthony Cailan, plus providing people with alcohol, the dangers of this …

Ice Cream with Roxana Jullapat

February 28th, 2018

39:06

Champion of desserts Roxana Jullapat talks ice cream science, the importance of aspic in culinary school and the gratification of bread-baking. Plus, …

Lobster Thermidor with Jeremy Fall

February 21st, 2018

35:33

A signature dish of the Gilded Age. Mid-2000s Hollywood stories. The extreme complexities of the French Revolution. It all ties together in this …

Tea with Rachel Ashwell

February 14th, 2018

27:40

Taunting monkeys, quoting John Adams, requesting tea as a power move - this episode has it all. British interior designer Rachel Ashwell joins Katherine to talk about the drink of her people, tea. Please subscribe to …

Fondue with Emanuele Filiberto di Savoia

February 7th, 2018

37:08

Prince Emanuele Filiberto di Savoia on Switzerland's national dish, how Italy could market itself better, and whether the Trumps are royalty. He and …

The Origins of "California Cuisine" with Andrea Crawford

January 31st, 2018

45:32

Alice Waters and Wolfgang Puck got a lot of credit for the 1970s birth of "California cuisine," but they couldn’t have done it without farmers …

Pan Dulce with Yusef Roach

January 24th, 2018

53:39

Getting a culinary education at Chipotle, piglet pastries, Juan Garrido, and the best thing at Starbucks. All that and gluten with comedian Yusef …

Croissants with Carla Jimenez

January 17th, 2018

42:24

The Mick's Carla Jimenez clowns on Sara Lee, explains how she'll use rolling pins in the coming revolution; and discusses how nice French people are …

Jewish Delis with Ian Karmel

January 10th, 2018

53:26

Ian Karmel and Katherine Spiers on getting comped, the wide diversity of white people in the Pacific Northwest, identity sandwiches, tender meats, and the drunkest deli in all the land. Please subscribe to (and rate …

New Year's Resolutions

January 3rd, 2018

11:12

Why make resolutions when you could be like Janus? Be an actual Roman god. Please subscribe to (and rate & review) this podcast in iTunes or the …

Candy Canes

December 27th, 2017

18:13

Elf on the Shelf is completely upsetting. Plus, holiday candies and the true meaning of “Immaculate Conception.” (if you know it you get a prize. …

German Chocolate Cake

December 20th, 2017

16:29

A minisode in which Katherine and Producer Michelle discuss various types of chocolate, Texan baking, and how German Chocolate Cake isn't German at …

Appetizers with Jordan Morris

December 13th, 2017

52:04

Jordan Morris is all about the apps - plus Russian vs French, pupu platters, no-touching marriages, dippin’ sauces and Balkan milk food. Please subscribe to (and rate & review) this podcast in iTunes or the Podcasts …

Filipino Food with Karen Tongson

December 6th, 2017

49:11

Karen and Katherine devolve into lumpia madness, and talk about drinking in Korea, Crazy Ex-Girlfriend, and claiming Cherokee heritage. And we …

Buffalo Wings with Amy Miller

November 29th, 2017

51:09

Comedian Amy Miller talks Dust Bowl migration, the humiliation of eating chicken wings in public, Hooters, Catholic slurs, and swim-up bars. Please …

French Fries with Tawny Newsome

November 22nd, 2017

53:46

Katherine tells Tawny Newsome about the food truck that’s ripping off this very podcast, and they yell about French fries both good and bad, those humorless Belgians, and the secrets of Comedy Bang Bang. Please …

Thanksgiving with Gail Simmons

November 14th, 2017

37:39

Gail Simmons is Canadian, so we compare the two Thanksgivings, and talk about beans, olives, root beer, her bold licorice choices, the phrase “soup …

Tex-Mex with Josef Centeno

November 8th, 2017

28:04

San Antonio native Josef Centeno talks nachos, how the Mexican Revolution both split up and united his family, and blended margaritas in Paris. Plus, …

Banh Mi with Louis Tikaram

November 1st, 2017

31:16

Australian chef Louis Tikaram talks about the best banh mi in the world, the mess that Westerners made of Vietnam, and his favorite Fijian food - which is his grandmother’s recipe. (And yes, I know I can’t pronounce …

French Onion Soup with Lucas Peterson

October 25th, 2017

41:47

The New York Times Frugal Traveler Lucas Peterson talks about his favorite city, the fast food item that tastes like French onion soup, hangover cures, and his new feuds with Gail Simmons, Emily Post, and me. Please …

Disgusting Things with Caitlin Doughty

October 18th, 2017

54:32

Celebrity mortician Caitlin Doughty talks about the funeral industry, sharing a bedroom with a dead body, the gnarliness of the Victorian era, worms …

Lobster Rolls with Alie Ward

October 11th, 2017

58:55

Podcaster, science correspondent and insect lover Alie Ward talks sea bugs, beef fog and St. John the Fornicator. Please subscribe to (and rate & review) this podcast in iTunes or the Podcasts app so you never miss …

Mid-Century American Food with Mark Rosati

October 4th, 2017

58:54

Shake Shack’s culinary director Mark Rosati talks frozen foods, Jell-O molds, and his deep love for In-N-Out. Please subscribe to (and rate & …

Hawaiian Food with Sarah Kuhn

September 27th, 2017

59:07

Sci-fi, fantasy and comics writer Sarah Kuhn talks about “the lunchbox moment,” Claudia Kishi, the word “hapa,” and the waves of immigration to Hawaii that led to its current cuisine - which is fusion, but we mean that …

Pies, Crumbles & Grunts with Sam Pancake

September 20th, 2017

52:41

Actor Sam Pancake (he's that guy from that thing) shares his strict rules about cobblers, talks about bacon grease as a secret ingredient, and …

Caviar with John Tesar

September 13th, 2017

40:22

John Tesar (you've seen him on Top Chef and he runs restaurants in Texas) talks about his Goodfellas connections, the taste of sturgeon ovaries, and …

Dim Sum with Ben Mandelker

September 6th, 2017

43:13

The thing is this: Ben Mandelker is here to talk about the snobbery of food bloggers, the cuisine at the restaurants in Vanderpump Rules, and dim …

Sushi with Mimi Pond

August 30th, 2017

32:46

Artist Mimi Pond talks Valley Girls and refusing to care about superheroes. And sushi! Please subscribe to (and rate & review) this podcast in iTunes or the Podcasts app so you never miss an episode!

Tapas with Antonia Lofaso

August 23rd, 2017

37:29

Topless beaches and snacks that go with wine - specifically tapas - with this week's guest, chef and TV star Antonia Lofaso. Please subscribe to (and rate & review) this podcast in iTunes or the Podcasts app so you …

Regional BBQ with Emily Maya Mills

August 16th, 2017

52:09

Toe cleavage, pickle mysteries and barbecue from coast to coast with actor and comedian Emily Maya Mills. Please subscribe to (and rate & review) this podcast in iTunes or the Podcasts app so you never miss an …

Corn Dogs with Steven Ray Morris

August 9th, 2017

51:50

King of Podcasting Steven Ray Morris loves corn dogs, but hates eating with his hands. It's a problem. Please subscribe to (and rate & review) this podcast in iTunes or the Podcasts app so you never miss an episode!

Victorian-Era Food with Diep Tran

August 2nd, 2017

1:00:17

Everything we thought we knew about food in the Victorian era was wrong! Please subscribe to (and rate & review) this podcast in iTunes or the Podcasts app so you never miss an episode!

Khao Soi with Phil Rosenthal

July 26th, 2017

40:16

Legendary TV creator Phil Rosenthal joins Katherine to talk about truly disgusting foods, discovering garlic at age 18, restaurants as centers of …

Baguettes with Rose Lawrence

July 19th, 2017

40:33

Lawyer-turned-baker Rose Lawrence joins Katherine to talk witchcraft, baking and the rather bloody history of France's most famous bread, the baguette. Please subscribe to (and rate & review) this podcast in iTunes …

Ropa Vieja with Tony Rodriguez

July 12th, 2017

45:32

Watch out: this episode contains so, so many swear words. In so many languages. Actor Tony Rodriguez joins Katherine Spiers to talk about ropa vieja, …

Banana Pudding with Oriana Koren

July 5th, 2017

39:42

Photographer Oriana Koren talks about seeing food culture through her lens. And this most Southern dessert, that isn't even that Southern, it turns …

Martinis with Bryan Bishop

June 28th, 2017

1:04:20

"Bald Bryan" from The Adam Carolla Show joins Katherine to talk about martinis, and reminisce about when they used to work together and wear khakis. …

Jerk Chicken with Danielle Salmon

June 21st, 2017

40:08

What's the difference between blogging and journalism-ing? That and the history of perhaps Jamaica's favorite dish as food blogger Danielle Salmon of …

Restaurant Life with Tory McPhail

June 14th, 2017

29:49

Commander's Palace is the most famous restaurant in New Orleans, which makes it one of the most famous in the U.S. Katherine talks with its executive chef, Tory McPhail, about life as a young chef, coming up through the …

Dumplings with Scott Conant

June 7th, 2017

35:34

In which Scott Conant and Katherine get into a heated argument about what constitutes a dumpling. Plus, expensive spaghetti, shirtless cooking and fights on the set of Chopped. Please subscribe to (and rate & …

Alfajores with Lisa Hanawalt

May 31st, 2017

35:53

BoJack Horseman producer and James Beard Award-winning writer and illustrator Lisa Hanawalt joins Katherine to talk about alfajores, the cookie of her people. Plus, famous quotes about poop, and people being mean on the …

Rosé with Andrew Ti

May 24th, 2017

58:06

Yo, Is This Racist host Andrew Ti joins Katherine to talk about a lot of nonsense, from farmers' markets to Tina Fey to the French government. Plus, …

Restaurant History with Jacques Pepin

May 17th, 2017

49:18

Jacques Pepin, the legendary French chef who changed American cuisine, joined Katherine to remember when cheffing was a blue-collar job; turning down …

Ranch Dressing with Casey Thompson

May 10th, 2017

32:41

Top Chef favorite Casey Thompson joins Katherine to talk about the all-American creation that is ranch dressing. Plus, delicious MSG, questionable buttermilk, Clorox as food company, and Texas pride. Please subscribe to …

American Chop Suey with Doree Shafrir

May 3rd, 2017

44:09

Journalist, author and podcaster Doree Shafrir joins Katherine to discuss everything from the Kardashians to the Moosewood Cookbook. Plus, something she called "American Chop Suey," which Katherine didn't know anything …

Schnitzel with Marissa A. Ross

April 26th, 2017

44:55

Apicius, the original gourmand, comes up a lot in this discussion with Bon Appetit wine editor Marissa A. Ross that veers into a whole bunch of …

Prison Food with Danny Trejo

April 19th, 2017

41:22

Danny Trejo joined Katherine to talk about prison: when he was incarcerated vs. how it is now (a "warehouse of insanity"), using commissary for …

Mezcal & Mole with Cecilia Rios Murrieta

April 12th, 2017

34:00

The founder of a mezcal company talks about honoring Mexican tradition, and the world's increasing sophistication about Mexican food. Plus, staying …

Potatoes with Raghavan Iyer

April 5th, 2017

37:25

Those potatoes aren't baked, they're steamed. Plus, the marketing of Yukon Golds, and the fact that some people keep the peel on when making mashed …

Avocados with Cat Solen

March 29th, 2017

58:02

Cat Solen, creator of music videos and all kinds of television magic, joins Katherine Spiers to talk avocados, the California Raisins, and extremely …

Poutine with Comedy Daredevil

March 22nd, 2017

48:18

Ryan Stock and AmberLynn of Comedy Daredevil join Katherine to talk about poutine - how repeatedly applying blowtorches to your tongue will change …

Kimchi with Nyesha Arrington

March 15th, 2017

36:56

Her Korean grandmother was very influential in Nyesha Arrington's young life, especially when it came to food. She still holds that culture near and …

Veganism with Matt Donnelly

March 8th, 2017

40:53

Matt Donnelly is a vegan, but check this out: he has a sense of humor about it. He joins Katherine Spiers to discuss vegan eating in Las Vegas, insisting on being 300 pounds, and why the fast food and health food …

Peanut Butter Cups with Brooke Williamson

February 28th, 2017

48:35

As a Top Chef contestant and owner of multiple restaurants, Brooke Williamson know about fancy food. She also knows about peanut butter. She and …

Baked Ziti with Bruce Kalman

February 22nd, 2017

42:37

Eating while naked, gravy vs. sauce, and the science behind pasta, and that's all before Katherine and guest Bruce Kalman (of the acclaimed Union restaurant) get into it about minimum wage and "Millennial work ethic." …

Pho with Andrea Nguyen

February 14th, 2017

1:04:50

Usually Katherine is the teacher on Smart Mouth, but this week guest Andrea Nguyen schools her on all things pho. Check out Andrea's fantastic new …

Gummy Bears with Marcos Luevanos

February 8th, 2017

36:25

Noted candy authority (in the sense that he likes candy a whole bunch) and television writer Marcos Luevanos joins Katherine to talk German history, …

Tagine with Margaret Wappler

January 31st, 2017

36:59

Is food ever "sexy"? That's gross, right? But also if the right person is eating with their hands it's hot? Yuck, we're animals! Writer and podcaster Margaret Wappler talks 1001 Arabian Nights, how to use preserved …

Indulging with Chippendales Dancers James Davis and Jon Howes

January 24th, 2017

29:32

Professional hunks and Chippendales dancers James Davis and Jon Howes join us in Las Vegas to talk about dudes in the audience, backstage PhDs, In-N-Out breakfast burritos, and the madness that is taping The Amazing …

Living Large With Whitney Giron and Meeka Onstead

January 18th, 2017

35:05

Broadcasting from Las Vegas, we talk to X Burlesque dancers Whitney Giron and Meeka Onstead about eating for athleticism, water restriction, paying …

Cuban Sandwiches with Billy Scafuri and Adam Lustick

January 11th, 2017

1:01:18

Meat smashes are the topic of the day with noted no-goodniks Billy Scafuri and Adam Lustick (who has been known to BLAT). The two hosts of the No Joke Podcast share their thoughts on changes in food media, the Junior …

Sukiyaki with Niki Nakayama

January 4th, 2017

32:57

One of the featured restaurant owners on Netflix's Chef's Table, Niki Nakayama is the chef at n/naka, one of the hardest restaurants to get a table at in the country right now. She tells us why, in the kitchen, practice …

Spanish Hams with Karl Hess

December 27th, 2016

32:34

We go ham (LOL) with noted gourmet Karl Hess in today's discussion of Spain's greatest delicacy: Jamón Ibérico de Bellota. That is, hams from extremely pampered pigs. Plus, the predilections of ancient Romans, the glory …

Whitefish with Tuesday Bassen

December 21st, 2016

41:33

Tuesday Bassen discusses her battle to stop Zara (and other fast-fashion companies) from ripping off her designs. And she talks about growing up with …

Fish & Chips with Mario Batali

December 14th, 2016

25:01

Recorded back when those of us in the liberal bubble thought Hillary Clinton was a sure bet, Mario Batali tells tales of the White House and drinking wine with Bill. (And actually does place a bet on the election.) Plus …

Italian Cheeses with Cristina Bowerman

December 7th, 2016

31:28

Immigration and sexism are the topics of the day in this interview with Cristina Bowerman, the first female chef in Rome to earn a Michelin star. But we also talk about cheese and cowboys! And Italy's Museum of Shit, …

Pizza with Mike Mitchell

November 30th, 2016

39:00

Man-about-town Mike Mitchell, aka Mitch, aka Spoonman, comes over from Doughboys to tell us about family-wide pranks on delivery guys, his ideal TGIF lineup, and why he likes "Greek" pizza best. And did you know that …

Pecan Pie with Eva Anderson

November 23rd, 2016

34:16

You're The Worst writer Eva Anderson has very specific memories about pecan pie, mostly revolving around Wicca and menstruation. She and Katherine …

Whisky with Anthony Bourdain

November 16th, 2016

26:43

Anthony Bourdain joins us to talk about the metaphysics of good bread and booze, Scottish martial arts, and family-friendly strip clubs.

If you'd prefer to read the interview, here is the transcript:

Kung Pao with Isa Fabro

November 9th, 2016

37:44

"Staff meals" in restaurants are a mystery to civilians, but Isa Fabro is here to explain. The L.A.-based chef talks about rising through the kitchen …

Beef Kitfo with Marcus Samuelsson

November 2nd, 2016

22:14

Celebrity chef Marcus Samuelsson -- of Red Rooster in New York -- tells Katherine about his own immigrant experience, and why his neighborhood Harlem is Donald Trump's worst nightmare. The dish he discusses, beef kitfo, …

Introduction

November 2nd, 2016

1:21

Welcome to Smart Mouth, where we get to know our favorite people better by talking about their favorite foods. Please subscribe to (and rate & review) this podcast in iTunes or the Podcasts app so you never miss an …

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