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The Podcast Your Sponsor Warned You About™The addiction recovery podcast that's been called entertaining, thoughtful, insightful, welcoming, authentic, disappointing, dismissive, ignorant, and a bunch of wasted time.Hosted by The Indie Darlings of Recovery Podcasting™Jeff & Matt & Chris Rx-Strength … read more

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217: Ceci n'est pas un recovery podcast.

September 13th, 2020


Not the recovery podcast you need, but the recovery podcast you deserve.

216: High Definition Recovery

August 22nd, 2020


Is this the one where we jumped the shark?

215: Believe Half of What You See

August 1st, 2020


In memory of Aaron Lee Perry, the Wasted Poet, and Sobr Soldier.

His Spoken Joint videos:

214: Good, Clean Fun

July 26th, 2020


Don't make us pull this podcast over and come back there!

213: This Is Water

July 20th, 2020


Your favorite hour of non-stop banal recovery platitudes!

212: The Devil's Nectar

July 12th, 2020


Keep your stupid recovery opinions to yourself, share your sobriety tips freely, and don't go to Chris's barbershop.

We talk *a lot* about NA beer on this one, and anger, and resentment, and who gets to frame the …

211: Recovery in the Face of Adversity

July 7th, 2020


The Official Podcast of Recovery™ is humans. Just like you. So, give us a f*dging break.

210: Alcohol-Free Molotov Cocktails

June 21st, 2020


What's to be said about addiction recovery that hasn't been said 209-times before?

Find out here!

209: Still a Recovery Podcast

June 15th, 2020


Despite going on at length about the global pandemic, the PINO in the White House and the state of race relations and policing in the US, we're still …

206: A Way to Achieve Immortality

May 23rd, 2020


Share your knowledge.

We Need More Recovery Custodians and Fewer Recovery Rock Stars

205: In These Uncertain Times

May 9th, 2020


Wired expressions of recovery: tattoos and memoirs

Tired recovery grifts: gurus, coaches, alt methodologies

Inspired depictions of those suffering from …

204: A Very Special Episode with Kathy, Matt's Mom

May 3rd, 2020


Remember that one episode of Since Right Now when Matt's mom was the special guest star?

Well, now you will.

203: Pod Is Dead

April 25th, 2020


In which Camus and Nietzsche make appearances.

"Good intentions may do as much harm as malevolence if they lack understanding."

202: How Soon Is Right Now?

April 18th, 2020


Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.

201: Hope Springs Eternal

April 11th, 2020


Jeff & Matt & Chris find some measure of contentment in this, our fourth, week of socially distanced podcasting.

200: Recovery as It Is (Not as It Should Be)

April 5th, 2020


"And then, poof, you were gone."

Well, we're back now.

The third episode of our fifth season (after a year-and-a-week-long hiatus.)

199: These Things Take Time

March 29th, 2020


The second episode of our 2020 Quarantine Comeback Tour.

198: Alone Together Again

March 21st, 2020


After a year-long hiatus, the boys return to socially isolate with you.

197: Life Is What Happens

March 14th, 2019


"Whatever it was, 'The Answer to Everything' wasn't memorable."

We talk ayahuasca, altered states, anger, our upcoming 200th episode, and the "Best Virtual Wednesday Night Meeting"—our chat room.

196: Wednesday Night Recovery Club

March 6th, 2019


"We should have named this podcast 'Trigger Warning.'"

Get turnt fam with this lit episode where the Recovery Squad talks NA beer, therapy, rehab, and …

195: Fake Recovery

February 26th, 2019


"If you buy a car, make sure you can sleep in it."

The Indie Darlings of Addiction Recovery Podcasting™ are back after a two-week hiatus.

Jeff & Matt 12 Step a dude right in the face.

Are we who suffer from substance …

194: Fortune Favors the Sober

February 7th, 2019


"There's a little leg hair on that acid."

Robbed at gunpoint, an unexpected diagnosis, being fired from a long-time job….life is what happens while you're busy being sober.

193: Coked Up

January 31st, 2019


"The way you make them alcoholic is…you add alcohol."

In which Chris rants about Coca-Cola's new non-alcoholic adult beverage product line, Bar None, …

192: Recovery Podcast

January 16th, 2019


"It is a fire hose of insanity."

Anger! Anxiety! Social Media! Therapy! Resentment! Politics! Matt's back and we're all over the fucking place. You …

191: Dry January

January 10th, 2019


"Grandma's drinking."

Jeff & Chris take off the gloves and come out swinging in the one-nine.


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190: Bikini Bakesale

December 20th, 2018


"Let's eat at the Chinese place. No, I didn't relapse."

The boys end the year with whatever the opposite of a bang is.


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189: Blinded by Recovery Science

December 13th, 2018


"I think butt chugging was invented after I quit drinking…which I'm thankful for."

Some say "substance use disorder," some say "addiction." Let's call …

188: Listen to Our Podcast Ye Sober, and Recover!

December 5th, 2018


"I'm pissed off that you guys aren't looking for alcoholics!"

Our name is Since Right Now, Pod of Pods.


Also Available on Apple Podcasts, …

187: We Three Kings of Recovery Are

November 29th, 2018


“So we could still feel like we were living on the edge we had a designated driver who was drinking all night long.”


Pop's Blue Moon (STL) NA …

186: Boom, Goes the Recovery!

November 15th, 2018


"Give me something big and ostentatious because I want to make a scene!"


Patrick Holbert / Punch Line Drunk: A Sober Comedian …

185: You Can Lead a Horse to Sobriety, but You Can't Make It Recover

November 7th, 2018


"You know what would have been great? If you had turned into a werewolf."

The boys are back. Again.

But don't call it a comeback, we've been doing it …

184: Snortin' Sobriety, Drinkin' Recovery

October 18th, 2018


"A garbage bag of booze draggin' around behind me."

Your favorite recover band playing all the hits.


Cannabis is legal in Cannada /

183: An Alcohol-Free Champagne Supernova Is Born

October 10th, 2018


How many special people change? How many lives are living strange?
Where were you while we were casting pod?

Jeff tries to convince Matt and Chris to go see A Star Is Born.


All our new LIVE! …

182: Recovery Is a Drink Best Served Cold. (And Alcohol-Free.)

October 4th, 2018


"Then we got to the funny part where he took all the bottles of wine and locked them up in a cabinet in the basement."

Listener Lynne calls in and we …

181: Recover Like Nobody's Watching

September 25th, 2018


"I don't think I can order a Shirley Temple for you."

Jeff, Matt, & Chris perform a vulgar display of recovery for your amusement.

In this ep.:

180: Crash Test Recovery

September 19th, 2018


"I dunno shrink. You tell me."

Chris & Matt talk about fighting with —and having make-up therapy with— their therapists.

• People Around the World Experienced Record Levels of Stress and Pain in 2017, Study …

179: Recovery by Any Other Name

September 4th, 2018


"I had a pirate's booty treasure chest full of chips."

Matt, Jeff, & Chris doing what they do.



The Recovery Science Research …

178: A Podcast Greater Than Ourselves

August 29th, 2018


"It's just 'cause I'm a dick, man."
— Long time listener, first time caller Moti keeps it real. /

Against the Stream Confirms Sexual Misconduct by Noah Levine /

177: Sobriety, the Thinking Person's Drunk As Fudge

August 23rd, 2018


“I’m just gonna do this to show all these bastards.”

The boys talk about the days right around their sobriety dates.

176: Rage Against the Rehab Machine

August 15th, 2018


"That really chokes my cord."

The boys are angry!

Legit Script
Mary Killian's High Wire Girl Pod
Last Week Tonight w/ …

175: If This Is an Emergency Hang up and Find a Different Recovery Podcast

August 1st, 2018


"There is no drummer."

Jeff's back!

Q's raised—or inferred—and likely not A'ed:
Are we ignorant of that which we speak?
Are we dismissive of others' recovery experiences?
Is The Fix owned by Big Rehab?
What Is (a) LifeRing?
Do …

174: Right Back On

July 25th, 2018


"We've got our horses in a row."

While Jeff's wagon train is still headin' back from out West, Matt and Chris sit around the campfire telling stilted, disjointed tales that only by chance have anything to do with …

173: Trigger Warning

July 18th, 2018


"Right now they're talking about sarsaparilla."

Matt & Chris fly a "missing man" formation and revel in the fact that—despite the current state of …

172: An Eternity in Recovery

July 11th, 2018


"Where you goin'? I'll buy your drinks."

The Boys are back with the first episode of Season 5 and it wouldn't be an SRN ep without technical …

171: What We Talk About When We Talk About Recovery

June 26th, 2018


"See you later! We're going to get jobs."

Jeff, Matt, and Chris talk about sobriety and recovery.

Rejected by AA / The New Republic

Natural Recovery: Recovery …

170 : Three Men in a Recovery Podcast

June 14th, 2018


"Caramel urine is much closer."

Listener Ronnie R. calls in and we talk DXM (look it up).

Liv Pennelle wrote a piece on different recovery pathways for the Fix:

We …

169: Easier to Listen to than Most Podcasts

June 7th, 2018


"Gee, Wally, I think this drinking's got me licked."

Jeff and Chris talk religion, AA literature, therapy, listener feedback, David Cassidy, dry …

168: Tune In, Turn On, Pod Out

May 29th, 2018


"Stop talking to me Duran Duran!"

The boys chat about the coming revolution in psychedelic psycho-pharmacology to treat mental health issues including …

167: More Podcast About Sobriety and Recovery

May 17th, 2018


"I'll just drink at birthdays, funerals, and weddings." — Carl

Meetings, anxiety, non-alcoholic beer, life. And a listener, Carl, calls in!

166: Growing Fonder Hearts

May 9th, 2018


"How did you know my name was Bro?"

Absence makes the heart grow fonder'' yet, 'out of sight, out of mind'? Stop fucking with us aphorisms!

Also, does anybody read the notes?

165: Can You Hear Us Now?

April 17th, 2018


NOTE: This episode is almost unlistenable due to echo.*

If you can get past the fkciung annoying! echo you'll find Jeff and Chris pondering the very nature of existence.

NOT! It's just more half-assed musing on sobriety, …

164: Technical Difficulties

April 11th, 2018


“This is starting to sound like a ‘woe is me’ situation.”

In which Chris rambles on for half an hour about the woes of having to produce and engineer a podcast.

Also, with some sobriety, recovery, mental health stuff.

4.29 Call Waiting

March 22nd, 2018


"Okay, if Nikki Sixx calls in I won't hang up on him."

The boys wait by a phone that never rings.


Does Sobriety Kill Great Writing?

4.28 Q & AA

March 15th, 2018


"We got a Jew, a Muslim and a Christian here."
"Next episode we walk into a bar."

The 3 Wise Guys, attempt to A some Qs from listener Trish in NYC. Qs like (and I paraphrase): What's up with addiction and mental illness? …

4.27 Clown Tears

March 6th, 2018


"At 50, I feel the most numb I've ever felt."

Join Jeff, Matt, and Chris for another rollicking good time discussing, sobriety, recovery, and…feelings.

4.26 A Grain of Salt

February 22nd, 2018


"Check out my obsidian collection."

Jeff, Matt, and Chris go through more listener mail and dole out nuggets of folksy wisdom.


Support by …

4.25 Mailbag

February 7th, 2018


"Of course (I'm drinking) mom! I'm drunk right now."

The guys open up the mailbag, taste Wellbeing Brewing's new N.A. Dark Amber brew, and get all hot about the Trump administration and its response—or lack thereof—to …

4.24 There Will Be Blood

January 31st, 2018


"We're here for fun, not for facts."

Chris goes to the doctor. Then goes again.

Article mentioned:

It Looked Like a Familiar Case of Depression, but …

4.23 Whatevs

January 25th, 2018


"Ok, so, are you feeling better?"


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4.22 The Future

January 11th, 2018


"Welcome to fucking parenthood."

Kids. Amirite?


Themes, as always, graciously provided by @djfmdotcom

4.21 Black Dog

January 4th, 2018


"How's the mouthfeel on that?"

Dudes talking about depression.


4.20 Outside Issues

December 14th, 2017


"They'd have parties and people would come over and act weird."

Jeff, Matt, and Chris may or may not have just wrapped Since Right Now for 2017.

4.19 12th Steppin' and the Blood of Christ

December 7th, 2017


”We'll give him a 12th Step he'll never forget!"

Jeff, Matt, and Chris discuss the process of 12th Stepping someone (and possibly forming their own rogue, extreme 12th Step group,) we discuss the implications of …

4.18 N.A. Beer

November 16th, 2017


"You should have just hired a bartender to hang around with you."

In which we sample—live, on air—the first non-alcoholic brew produced by our own …

4.17 Practical Recovery

November 2nd, 2017


"I got in a ton of fights. I never struck someone…but I got beat up a number of times."

The boys consider every day practical benefits of sobriety and recovery.


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4.16 (Re)Introducing Jeff & Matt & Chris

October 26th, 2017


"Alright! I'll believe in you God! Just fix the plumbing!"

Whether you're new to the pod or a longtime listener, we thought it might be a good idea to reintroduce ourselves to give you, the listener, some context for our …

4.15 Freddy Negrete / Tattoo Artist

October 19th, 2017


"I said, 'God, I'm not going to make any promises because every promise I've made, I've broken.'"

Legendary tattoo artist Freddy Negrete is best known for his pioneering black-and-gray tattooing style, honed while he was …

4.14 / Nikki DuBose

October 12th, 2017


"I had to get it out…because I had been so silenced."

Nikki DuBose a former model turned author, speaker, and mental health advocate, recently released her memoir, Washed Away: From Darkness to Light. In Washed Away, …

4.13: Jeff & Matt & Chris / Hot Takes!

October 5th, 2017


“I really like not drinking now."

In and effort to have a "better than the worst" episode, the boys disucss medically assisted treatment, how to help a friend or family member we suspect of having a substance misuse …

4.12 / Kasey Anderson / Musician

September 28th, 2017


“If you were good at getting away with shit you wouldn't be (in prison.)"

Over seven days in 2012, Kasey lost his band, his home, and most of the …

4.11 In Which Neither Matt nor Chris Is Depressed.

September 21st, 2017


"On a scale of 7 to 10, how depressed are you?"

Matt and Chris talk a lot about the podcast itself, gratitude, and the somewhat surprising lack of …

4.10 Amy Dresner / My Fair Junkie

September 14th, 2017


"How sorry are you that you didn't get on this ride?!"

Amy Dresner is a former professional stand-up comic, having appeared at The Comedy Store, The Laugh Factory, and The Improv. Since 2012, she has been a contributing …

4.09 Erin Shaw Street / Writer

September 7th, 2017


NOTE: The first 5 minutes of Erin on mic are VERY hard to hear her. Then it gets better. My fault. —Chris

“This is my life and it's a fight for it.”

4.08 Chemical Solutions (& Weaponized Gratitude)

August 31st, 2017


"We'd be fighting right now in a gutter."

We finally turn the mics on about 2 minutes in and we talk OTC solutions for addiction and little bit of …

4.07 Jeff & Matt & Chris / Anger Management

August 24th, 2017


"If you're looking for context to solve all your problems, you'll never solve all your problems. You are the problem."

The guys talk about anger and …

4.06 Michael King / Facing Addiction

August 9th, 2017


“Could I kill myself without it hurting? Or go to Europe and change my identity?”

Michael King is the National Director of Outreach & Engagement …

4.05 / Jeff & Chris (& Sabine) / Fun for the Whole Family

August 3rd, 2017


Jeff's back, Matt's out, plant medicine is discussed and stick around to the end for a very special surprise guest.


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4.04 Scott Pilara / Rehab Reform Advocate

July 27th, 2017


"Plant-based medicine is the new paradigm in treating addiction and depression."

Scott began his career in the healing field, utilizing his inherent intuitive gifts as a life coach and sober companion while working at a …

4.03 Rea Bochner / Writer

July 20th, 2017


"I was so horribly offended—like she had accused me of pedophilia. Me?! I don't need one of those meetings!"

Rea Bochner is a writer, musician, and mother. She wrote her first haiku in third grade and has been writing …

4.02 Jeff & Matt & Chris

July 13th, 2017


Nelsan Ellis, the shaming obituary for a great-grandmother, the immediate intimacy of Friends (and acquaintances) of Bill, and much, much MORE!

4.01 Noah Levine / Refuge Recovery

July 5th, 2017


Hey, look! It's the first episode of Season 4! With Refuge Recovery founder, Noah Levine! Exclamation point!

3.38 Jeff & Matt & Chris

June 22nd, 2017


About an hour after the show ended I got an email from Alice apologizing for getting her days mixed up. D'oh! With HP as my witness, she will be on …

3.37 Refuge Recovery

June 15th, 2017


The boys went to a Refuge Recovery meeting and found it refreshingly light on the dogma and heavy on the karma.

3.36 Content.

June 8th, 2017


Contentment. A great feeling? Or, the best feeling? Also, alcohol causes cancer.

3.35 Ad. Diction. Addiction.

June 1st, 2017


Matt & Chris cover a wide range of topics. Did Matt ever score on Silk Road? Can shrooms cure alcoholism? Are we cynical assholes? Find out the …

3.34 Scott Stevens / The Alcohologist

May 25th, 2017


Scott Steven of joins us to discuss the health risks of alcohol and it's impact on healthcare and society.

3.33 Non-Alconolic

May 16th, 2017


Are non-alcoholic beverages only for non-alcoholics? Burning question? Or burning desire?

Just the boys again, talking the Trump administration's …

3.32 It Could Have Been Worse

May 11th, 2017


"I need to remember how bad it was and how bad it could have been.”—Chris as his 20th year of sobriety nears.

Jeff & Chris discuss long-term …

3.31 The Boys Are Back

May 3rd, 2017


"Fuck, I'm Ben Affleck."—Chris on our sobro casting in our Since Right Now biopic.

Chris is back from Europe and the gang's back together! Topics: N.A. beer, Brad Pitt, anonymity, and more!

3.30 Swole with Sobriety

April 5th, 2017


“Please listen responsibly."

Some old favorites are back again: depression, anxiety, resentments, to go to meetings or not, what we drank—or didn't, …

3.29 We're Not as Think as You Recovered We Are

March 29th, 2017


“You have to put a wall around Purdue Pharma."—Jeff on preventative wall placement.

The boys discuss Buddhism and psyche themselves up to go to a Refuge Recovery meeting, they express skepticism that "He" will do …

3.28 Wilson Horrell / Lift Heavy, Run Strong

March 23rd, 2017


"My dad asked me if you could go anywhere and do anything, what would you do? And I said, I'd go back to bed."—Wilson on depression in early recovery.

3.27 Jennifer O

March 9th, 2017


"I couldn't just run two miles, I had to run a marathon." —Jennifer on her 'all or nothing' nature

Jennifer O of The First 500 on The Recovery …

3.26 The Personal Is Political

March 2nd, 2017


"The personal is political."

Jeff, Matt, & Chris break one of the taboo topics on the show and discuss recovery in context of the current …

3.25 Ryan & Garrett / AddictionXAmerica

February 16th, 2017


Ryan Hampton & Garrett Hade of

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3.24 Liv Pennelle

February 9th, 2017


"I just want to be well in recovery."

Liv Pennelle of

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3.23 Don't Panic.

February 2nd, 2017


Depression! Anxiety! Panic Attacks! It's all here folks.

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3.21 Andy Haynes / Comedian

January 9th, 2017


"(I was) having these moments where things were going really well and then things weren't going well and I didn't know why they were not going well.…'cause I thought I was trying." — Andy on the mysteries of the unsober

3.20 Chris & Jeff & Matt / Triot

January 3rd, 2017


Do I really have to spell it out for you?

3.19 No Evil On Live

December 14th, 2016


“You can’t fight your way out.”

Chris on the fight-or-flight response to situations that trigger his social anxiety

Get a pen and paper and make your own liner notes. Fun for you!

3.18: We've Got Spirit

December 8th, 2016


“It keeps a lot of people out.”—Jeff on the dogmatic requirement of a higher power in AA

Jeff, Matt & Chris try to figure out what the difference is between religion and spirituality; if they're either; if they want …

3.17 Tammi & Sondra / Recover. Create. Repeat.

December 1st, 2016


“I literally woke up on morning and just wanted to stop everything and make them all.”—Sondra on the insistence of creative inspiration.

Tammi Salas of and Sondra Primeaux of

3.16 Claire & Kristi II: Manning the Ramparts

November 20th, 2016


”I'm a woman, I'm good with that.”—Claire
”Not everything has to be a perfect experience.”—Kristi

Claire Rudy Foster & Kristi Coulter back again.

3.15: Jennifer Matesa / Sex in Recovery

November 3rd, 2016


Jennifer is author of four nonfiction books about body, mind, and human well-being, including the just-published Sex in Recovery: A Meeting between the Covers, as well as The Recovering Body: Physical and Spiritual …

3.14 Tess Sweet / Writer & Director

October 26th, 2016


”I have not been relieved of the desire…I've been relieved of the obsession.”

Find out more about Tess and her upcoming Web series, Cleaner Daze @ and on the show's Facebook page, @CleanerDazeSeries

3.13: Annie McCullough / Advocate

October 13th, 2016


“I grew up in an alcoholic home so I knew what alcoholism was but I didn't ever talk about it. So I lived in denial for 23 years."

Advocate Annie …

3.12: DJFM / Jon. G. / DJFM

October 6th, 2016



“When you're not partying anymore, all the problems that the drugs were masking, that the alcohol was masking, they just …

3.11: Jeff+Chris+Matt / The 3 Amigos

September 28th, 2016


“I don't even know what’s wrong. Career? Love? Money? Who the fuck knows?…I want to do something dangerous.”
—Real talk from Jeff

3.10: The Claire + Kristi Takeover

September 22nd, 2016


Claire “Amy” Foster + Kristi ”Tina” Coulter Guest-Co-Host This Very Special Episode of Since Right Now LIVE!


3.09: A Tale of Three Cities

September 15th, 2016


It was the best of episodes; it was the worst of episodes.
We had everything before us, we had nothing before us, we were all going direct to Heaven, we were all going direct the other way—in short, this podcast …

3.08: Chris & Matt / State of the Revolution

September 8th, 2016


“It was the loneliest, saddest little episode."
—Matt on the last time we recorded without Jeff

Chris and Matt concur that neither is depressed or …

3.07: Kera Yonker / Writer

September 1st, 2016


“I could just drive over (to the liquor store) and nobody would know.”
—Kera on alcohols long reach

Kera Yonker is a Californian and quasi-New Yorker …

3.06: Jeff + Matt + Chris / Meditations

August 24th, 2016


After two false starts Jeff, Matt and Chris spit hot fire over a sick beat. Well, we ramble semi-coherently for about an hour on a variety of topics—not the least of which being Chris’ meds.

And we talk about the …

3.05a: Chris / See You Next Wednesday

August 17th, 2016


Yo! Chris is taking his show and going on vacation. For a week. Back next Wed with an all new show LIVE on @ 8p Central.

Call …

3.04: Tammi Salas / Artist + Writer

August 11th, 2016


"I'm not 21, so I can't (drink.)"
—Tammi on following the rules

Tammi hasn’t had a drink since February 3, 2015. She is a former wine …

3.03: Claire Rudy Foster / Author

August 1st, 2016


“To walk around in an altered state and have that other eye…it made me feel safe and it made me feel very powerful. And I dove right-the-fuck in.”

3.02: Charlotte Rose Coyle / Artist

July 20th, 2016


“I woke up in the hospital…my stomach was…bleeding. My heart had shut off. But a few days later I drank again.” —Charlotte on the tenacity of denial in addiction.

On day one of her sobriety—originally a planned 90-day …

3.01: Lisa Smith / Girl Walks Out of a Bar

July 7th, 2016


“There were mornings waking up (with) no clue what happened last night but it was never something at that point where I would think I should stop…or …

16.25: Jeff, Matt & Chris / Long Time, First Time

June 30th, 2016


"I was high when we talked if I recall correctly."
—A live caller to the BIGGER, BADDER, BOLDER, LIVER Since Right Now.

Tune in to find out who…

16.24: Jeff, Matt & Chris / Recovery LIVE!

June 22nd, 2016


"It as always more about the destination than the route."—Matt on "getting lost."

Part 1 of our two-part 2 Year Anniversary LIVEstravaganza.

Beginning with this episode the show will be broadcast LIVE! on Wednesday nights …

16.23: Carly Benson / Miracles Are Brewing

June 16th, 2016


"I need help. I need a miracle."
—Carly on coming to believe that a power greater than herself could restore her to sanity.

As an avid traveler, yogi …

16.22: Erin Bahadur / Erin’s Inside Job

June 9th, 2016


“I decided to start taking random pills from the pharmacy where I worked.”—Erin on adapting to her circumstances.

Erin is a recovering addict, personal trainer, freelance writer, and blogger living in Chicago.

Her blog,

16.21: Helaina Hovitz / After 9/11

June 1st, 2016


“I remember waking up the next morning, there was blue paint all over my nurse’s costume, there were chicken nuggets on the terrace…”
—Helaina on the …

16.20: Jeff & Chris / Keep Coming Back (To The Podcast)

May 26th, 2016


"…and then I realize I sound like a tremendous dick.“—Chris, in the rooms.

In which Chris goes to listen to Jeff speak, doesn't know what the fuck is going on and ends up speaking himself.

Jeff's talk was terrific. And it …

16.19: Mishka Shubaly / I Swear I'll Make It Up to You

May 18th, 2016


"Everyone knew what they were going to be; I had no idea. Then as soon as I drank I was like THIS is what I'm going to be."—Mishka on career choices.

A misfit kid at the best of times, Mishka had his world shattered …

16.18: Garrett Braukman / Alta Centers

May 12th, 2016


“I just had a doctor's appointment and he asked (about my family history.) I said as long as mental health isn’t involved we’re pretty healthy.”

16.17: Kristi Coulter / Off-Dry

May 4th, 2016


“I was hungover for many years and I just thought I was tired.”—Kristi on the self-delusions of the active alcoholic.

Kristi is an essayist and …

16.16: Nancy Carr / Last Call

April 27th, 2016


“I didn't come crawling into an AA meeting thinking, ‘Oh, I've got to quit drinking.’”—Nancy on denials last gasp.

Inspired by writers she admired for their honesty and grit—Joyce Maynard, Augusten Burroughs, Anne Lamott …

16.15: Kelly Aguirre Berkey / Chris’ Sister

April 21st, 2016


“I didn't start dealing until my dealer went to jail.“—Kelly on rising to the occasion.

From Kelly:
Now, after a relapse and fresh out of out-patient, this time feels different. I feel this a major game-changer for me. I …

16.14: Veronica Valli / Recovery Rocks!

April 13th, 2016


“I hit another rock bottom about two and a half years into sobriety that was probably worse than before I got sober.”

As a recovered alcoholic and …

16.13: John Lipscomb & Adrianne Lugo / The Painting and The Piano

April 6th, 2016


“We both lost our mothers to their disease at 47.”
—John on how this disease infects the family tree.

John and Adrianne are the co-authors of The Painting and The Piano, their improbable story of survival and love and the …

16.12: Rosemary O'Conner / ROC Recovery

March 31st, 2016


“I was really treating all the guilt, shame, regret, and fear with alcohol.”—Rosemary on self-medicating

Rosemary, sober since 1999, understands the …

16.11: Matt & Chris / Depression

March 21st, 2016


"This shouldn't be this fuck*ng hard." — Matt


Themes: @djfmdotcom

Cover: Frank Harbert and Fred Zwickel at Mill Creek Watershed / …

16.10: Dustin John / A Walk In His Shoes

March 15th, 2016


"Seeing the chaos get worse and worse I knew that I had to change." —Dustin

Dustin is an advocate against the "War on Drugs" and is helping the addiction community fight against the horrible stigma associated with all …

16.09: Recovery Renegades

March 10th, 2016


"Don't you go changing on me alcoholism."
—Matt on the affirmation of hearing other's recovery stories

The boys strap on their waders and step into a …

16.08: Matt Mendoza / Addiction Unscripted

February 24th, 2016


"I remember the pharmacist—or the guy in the white coat—he goes, 'Is there anything you need?'…and I said, 'No.' Then he goes, 'Is there anything you don't need?" —Matt in Mexico

Matt is the founder of …

16.07: Kendra & Simon / Rocket Designs

February 18th, 2016


"When we were drinking, each day (looked) a lot like yesterday."—Simon on his and Kendra‘s drinking years together.

After years of drinking together, Simon & Kendra got sober in October 2008. They both got their …

16.06: Kyczy Hawk / S.O.A.R. Yoga

February 11th, 2016


"I was on (an) emotional relapse and decided to take a yoga class. And that yoga class kind of unwound me and I was able to tap into some storm that was brewing inside me."—Kyczy on the power of yoga in her recovery

A …

16.05: Natasha Silver Bell / Recovery Coach

February 3rd, 2016


"I decided to pick up, and I decided to do it by announcing it to a group of people, and they all toasted me out of the program with a very expensive bottle of wine."
—Natasha on "graduating out of AA"

Natasha—in recovery …

16.04: Jane X / Desert Yuja

January 28th, 2016


"I had to take a water bottle filled with vodka with me just to get through the day."—Jane on getting through the day.

Jane is @yujachingu on Twitter


Image: drink me [remix by K+S] / 2009 / Team …

16.03: Nothing's Shocking

January 21st, 2016


"(The relationship) helped me realize just how edgy, dark and hard I wasn't."—Chris on being in over his head.

Jeff listened to @thishomepod Ep.22: …

16.02: Mary Killian / High Wire Girl

January 14th, 2016


"I'm not always 'happy, joyous and free.' I'd be bullshitting you if I said that was the case."—Mary on living in recovery.

Please, visit Mary

16.01: Sondra Primeaux / The Unruffled

January 7th, 2016


"I don't know how I'm gonna do it…but I can't do *this* anymore."—Sondra

The Unruffled /
Sondra on Twitter / @NaughtApropos

Episode 1550: Recovery. Live That Shit.

December 31st, 2015


Please, visit us at TheRecoveryRevolution.Online
See you next year!

Shaggy, Professor & Ol' Dirty Blue Eyes

Episode 1549: Jeff & Chris Talking About Relapse

December 17th, 2015


"I remember thinking in my drunken stupor—and quickly suppressing (the thought)—that I had an issue."—Chris on Since Right Now

Show notes:
Take notes. Use Google.

Intro/Outro Themes by …

Episode 1547: Aaron Lee Perry /

December 1st, 2015


"Some people miss the bottom." — Aaron on SRN

The enormously talented Aaron Lee Perry of (and recent cover feature on …

Episode 1545: Nicola O'Hanlon / I Love Recovery Café

November 18th, 2015


"My recovery evolves all the time. It's important for me to give back what I have received."—Nicola on SRN

@nicola-o-hanlon has been in recovery since …

Episode 1544: Tim F. Drops Perspective on Chris

November 13th, 2015


"You were a master of self-sabotage."—Tim

Tim, a normie, has know Chris for over two decades. He has seen Chris at his worst in active addiction and he was the first person to see Chris on the other side of his …

Episode 1543: Resentments, Self-Help & The AntiGuru™

November 4th, 2015


"Fu*k Ram Dass."—Chris on SRN

Nothing you know about anything is right and everything you know about everything is right.

This is an episode where it is highly recommended that you take what you can and leave the rest.

Episode 1542: Jean McCarthy / Unpickled & The Bubble Hour

October 28th, 2015


"It doesn't matter if you're not sleeping on a park (bench)…or not driving your kids to school with vodka in your coffee mug…or whatever is your 'I …

Episode 1541: The Gang Talks About Social Anxiety. And Depression

October 21st, 2015


"You start to realize just how many (social activities) are really just about getting super hamskied."—MATT

The Sober Squad™ does not boldly go where …

Episode 1540: Jo Sullivan / Counselor & Fund Raiser

October 14th, 2015


"I was one of those drinkers that blacked out the first time I drank. I thought I wouldn't drink again. Three days later I did."—Jo on SRN

Jo is just …

Episode 1539: Recover, Recover…RECOVER OUT LOUD!

October 12th, 2015


The Recovery Renegades™ return to tell tales from the frontlines of the Recovery Revolution™ .

Jeff loves everybody.
Matt makes lemonade after …

Episode 1538: Scott Magnuson & Shaaren Pine / Torn Together

September 29th, 2015


"I had to figure out a way to be (sober) around (alcohol) constantly."—Scott (restauranteur) on SRN

Torn Together is a memoir, written by recovering …

Episode 1537: SRN [Almost] LIVE!

September 22nd, 2015


"It's become really important to me.…I can count on the best cup of coffee I've had all week and I'll probably get the best laugh I'll have all week…" —Matt on SRN

We intended to do a live episode on Google Hangouts with …

Episode 1536: Brian Cuban / Author, Speaker, Activist

September 15th, 2015


Brian's recovery journey took him through clinical depression, twenty-seven years of eating disorders, body dysmorphic disorder, alcohol and drug …

Episode 1535: Sean Paul Mahoney / Playwright & Humorist

September 9th, 2015


"As it progresses it's like an animal that you have to take care of all the time…and you really can't do anything else."

Sean has been a writer, humorist and storyteller since he learned how to speak. He …

Episode 1534: Donald McFarland / UNITE to Face Addiction

September 3rd, 2015


"On the fourth we're going to stand next to each other and be like, 'Do you believe this?'"—Donald on SRN

Donald (Ep.1523) joins us this time in his …

Episode 1533: Jill Bauer / The Rooms Project

August 24th, 2015


"I think I was drinking suicidally from day one where I need to drink myself into oblivion and not feel or remember anything."
—Jill on SRN

Jillian …

Episode 1532: Robert McClellan / Real Sobriety

August 20th, 2015


"I spent all the kids’ Christmas money. I got drunk. I took all the money that my wife and I had saved. I was supposed to be picking up some big gifts a couple days before Christmas but instead I went to the bar…" …

Episode 1531: Laura Silverman / The Sobriety Collective

August 13th, 2015


"(The counselor) had me go through the "Are You and Alcoholic?" checklist…and I said 'yes' to just about everything and I think I said, 'But I don't …

Episode 1530: Sacha Z. Scoblic / Unwasted: My Lush Sobriety

August 6th, 2015


"There's no reason to wait until you're in a public park with your pants around your ankles to be like, Wait! I should quit drinking!"
—Sacha on SRN

Episode 1529: Anna David / AfterPartyMagazine + AfterPartyPod

July 29th, 2015


"I would quit for a few weeks or a month and congratulate myself on not being a cocaine addict and then I'd go back to doing it."
—Anna on SRN

Anna, …

Episode 1528: Ivana Grahovac / Transforming Youth Recovery

July 22nd, 2015


"I became addicted to heroin when I had just wrapped up a White House internship."—Ivana on SRN

Select References:
Stacie Mathewson /
Comprehensive Addiction and Recovery Act 2015 /

Episode 1527: Jason Smith / The Bitter Taste of Dying

July 16th, 2015


"I collapsed on the floor and the last thing I remember is the taste…it was a bitter, gritty taste." — Jason on SRN

Jason on the Web:

Episode 1526: Sarah Hepola, Author / Blackout: Remembering the Things I Drank to Forget

July 7th, 2015


"You get sober and you realize that person you were pretending to be you actually are." —Sarah on SRN

If you've read Sarah's beautifully-crafted …

Episode 1525: Laura McKowen / I Fly at Night

July 2nd, 2015


"No one was watching me anymore. Which was what I wanted…but it was terrifying also." — Laura of

Select References:
Earl Hightower "tapes" / Recovery Audio Speaker Series /

Why AA …

Episode 1524: Shane Watson /

June 24th, 2015


Men & Gentleladies! The man with the most-read piece to date on KLĒN + SŌBR! Shane Watson!

Shane's Recovery Story:

Let's All Go to the Lobby …

Episode 1523: Donald McFarland / Unite to Face Addiction

June 16th, 2015


Donald has over three decades of experience in politics. His work has combined communications, field, electoral, and advocacy experience. He's also …

Episode 1522: AA Founders' Day Roadtrip 2015

June 15th, 2015


Three dudes in a car on the way back to STL from Akron talking about their experience at Founders' Day on the 80th Anniversary of …

Episode 1521: Daniel Maurer / Sobriety: A Graphic Novel

June 10th, 2015


Leave a comment or review on SoundCloud or iTunes between June 11 and June 29, 2015 for a chance to win 1 of 2 copies we're giving away. Drawing on June 29th, 2015.

Episode 1520: Kelly Fitzgerald / The Sober Señorita

June 4th, 2015


Los Caballeros de Recovery tuvieron una conversación encantadora con la Sober Señorita. ¡Escucha ahora!

Anonymity in AA and the Age of the Internet /

Episode 1519: AA / You Can't Always Get What You Want. But…

May 27th, 2015


Whence the AA hate? Recovery is a spectrum with highly-personal stories along it's length. Why must one person's experience necessarily be another's.

Even as a #nonAnon Chris doesn't get the AA haters.


Episode 1518: Wes Hurt / Clean Cause Water

May 21st, 2015


Shot Out of A (Water) Cannon.

Wes is quite literally a man on a mission. Just 10 months sober, he's working with a fervor to carry the message while he carries (his) water to the recovery community and beyond.

"It's not …

Episode 1517: Joe C. / Rebellion Dogs

May 13th, 2015


Sobriety does not inoculate us against the trials and tribulations of life. We use the idea of "Maintaining long-term sobriety through life-altering …

Episode 1516: Paul Henry / The Alcoholic's Guide to Alcoholism

May 11th, 2015


"Paul" is a recovering alcoholic, currently following a PhD into the neuromechanisms of addictive behaviours. His own experience of recovery, coupled …

Episode 1515 / A Very Special Episode: Selling Spirits Sober

May 3rd, 2015


Jeff, Matt and Chris have all spent rather lengthy segments of their respective careers creating advertising and promotions for alcohol. We've worked …

Episode 1511: Fool Me Once

May 2nd, 2015


Flatulence, Opioids & Abraham Lincoln. One of these things is not like the other. / Dave Cooke

Opioid Misuse In Chronic Pain Patients …

Episode 1514: Magz Shores / Sober Courage

April 29th, 2015


We had an absolutely terrific chat with Magz, Chris shares the bit of familial closure he got this past week and we tease Episode 1515. A Very …

Episode 1513.2: Dave Cooke / 100 Pedals / pt 2 & SRN LIVE!

April 23rd, 2015


Dave's back! With the A to last episodes Q.


Audio from first SRN LIVE! on Periscope /
We're going to start live-streaming video of the podcast recording beginning with next episode.


Episode 1513.1: Dave Cooke / 100 Pedals

April 16th, 2015


Thanks to technical difficulties we have the first part of our first two-parter. And our first cliffhanger!

Dave knows first-hand the "confusion, …

Episode 1512: Look Who's Sober

April 8th, 2015


Matt turns 1!


Marijuana Maintenance / via Choose Help /

Episode 1504: The Lost Episode

April 6th, 2015


Originally recorded January 28, 2015.

Jeff, Chris and Matt discuss therapy. You just can't hear Matt.

Clip: The Lost Weekend f. Ray Miland / 1945 /

Episode 1510: Spring!

March 25th, 2015


Jeff, Matt & Chris return refreshed and renewed with a wide-ranging, edge-of-your-seat recovery chat. At times aimless and unfocused and at times meandering across barely-related tangents, you won't want to miss …

Episode 1509: Recovery, one podcast at at time.

March 11th, 2015


Three friends in recovery from alcohol and other drugs talking about it.

Clip: It's A Wonderful Life / 1946 / Liberty Films

Episode 1508: SMART Recovery: Doing Recovery Differently

February 26th, 2015


"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results."—Not Albert Einstein*

In the interest of …

Episode 1507: You can lead a horse to sobriety, but you can't make it not drink.

February 26th, 2015


In which Jeff, Matt and Chris discuss getting sober, staying sober, triggers, N.A., rehab and more!

Episode 1506: Recovering Alone Together

February 8th, 2015


As persons in recovery what is our responsibility to others in recovery?

Paul came back.

Social Networks and Social …

Episode 1505: I’m clean enough, I’m sober enough, and doggone it, I’m angry.

February 1st, 2015


Bad attitudes and “banal platitudes” in recovery.


Codependent No More: How to Stop Controlling Others and Start Caring for Yourself / …

Episode 1503: Recovery By Any Other Name…

January 20th, 2015


Pondered with our usual lack of reverence and/or qualification:

Substance Use Disorder, Semantics and Stigma

Harm Reduction /

Moderation Management /

SMART Recovery /

Episode 1502: Recover Rewind Review / Clean and Sober

January 14th, 2015


Ep. 1502
Recover, Rewind, Review
Clean and Sober

In which Jeff, Matt and I discuss the 1988 Michael Keaton rehab/12 Step classic then finish with an extended discussion that covers the 12th Step, the 11th tradition and …

1501.0 / Guess Who's Back

January 6th, 2015


Tell A Friend…Seriously, Tell A Friend.

Thanks for sticking with us while we took a couple of weeks off to deck our halls, roast our chestnuts and dash through snow laughing all the way. (And, no, none of those are …

Episode 22: Isolation & Addiction

December 17th, 2014


"No matter where you go, there you are." — Buckaroo Banzai*

Jeff and Chris are joined by episode 22's Matt and episode 16's Marilyn for a super fun …

Episode 21: Matt / Since April 2014

December 8th, 2014


Jeff and Chris welcome (back) their long-time friend from a stint in the wild. In Matt's story relapse is indeed a part of recovery.

Legal …

Episode 20: Sobriety & Recovery: Can you have one without the other?

December 1st, 2014


Just two dudes talking about sobriety and recovery and trying to figure out what it all means.


You're in recovery if… / Addiction & Recovery News /

Episode 19: Holidazed & Confused

November 17th, 2014


Jeff & Chris talk about being sober during the Holidays.
Our new segment, 100% Volume by Alcoholics (with Marilyn Spiller of …

Episode 18: Jon G. / My Last Stand & DJ FM

November 11th, 2014


In his riveting visit with us, the deeply-thoughtful and erudite Jon G. takes us to and through his recovery up to this point and gives us a glimpse …

Episode 17: Joe C. / Rebellion Dogs

November 3rd, 2014


Joe, who got sober in his teens and is about to celebrate his 38th year of sobriety this month, is a man of many hats and talents. Joe’s a recovery trailblazer in the vanguard of those actively working to shape the …

Episode 16: Marilyn / Waking Up the Ghost

October 24th, 2014


Waking Up the Ghost? I’ll let Marilyn explain:

“… the first time I heard that expression, I was sitting on a deserted island in the Exumas, with a jaundiced Bahamian named Sands. I think it is also the first time a …

Episode 15: Paul / Message In A Bottle

October 14th, 2014


UPDATE / 10.19.15 / You can now hear Paul on his own podcast:

Paul is many things in …

Episode 14: Meditations, Meetings & Steps

October 8th, 2014


Chris goes to his second, Jeff takes someone else to their first and the 12th Step seems to have been the one that in one way or another got us each to our destinations.


The 12th Step
Having had a spiritual …

Episode 13: Two Alcoholics Walk Into A Room

September 30th, 2014



In which the S.O.S meeting Jeff and Chris set out to attend is not the S.O.S. meeting they find. Which then leads Jeff to facilitate Chris’ second attempt …

Episode 12: Resentments, Denial, Enabling

September 23rd, 2014


One of Those Three Is Not A River In Egypt.

We talk about all three.
Also, the question is raised as to whether Chris may be a narcissist.

• …

Episode 11: Making Up For Lost Time

September 18th, 2014


Sober Dates, Slips, Relapse, Second Stage Recovery & Step 9

The second episode to solicit topics via Twitter is the first to be informed almost …

Episode 10: They're All Going To Laugh At You (Carrie On, My Wayward Son)

September 11th, 2014


Anonymity. Shame. Stigma. Ain't nobody got time for that. Chris and Jeff talk about it.

How Addiction Really Affects The Family / …

Episode 9: You Can't Unring A Bell

September 5th, 2014


After a brief "celebration" of Chris' Sober Birthday (9.1.97) Chris and Jeff talk about the challenge of a family get together when there's an …

Episode 8: Defining An Addict: Language, Creativity, Depression, Addiction

August 30th, 2014


We briefly consider how we, as addicts, feel about the terms used to describe us. By others? By ourselves? Then we consider—at length!—what's up with addicts so often being plagued by depression and creativity.

Episode 7: (What's So Funny 'Bout) Truth, Shame and Ego

August 23rd, 2014


Jeff and Chris chat—and laugh—about getting to the truth in recovery (both in general and in the context of the 12 Steps of Alcoholics Anonymous,) …

Episode 2: Uncomfortably Numb

July 6th, 2014


Longtime-friends, Chris and Jeff, have over 30 years in relapse-free recovery between them. In this episode they continute to each learn a bit more about the other's recovery. The emotional and sensory numbness of …

Episode 1: Hello, Our Name Is Since Right Now And We Are Alcoholics.

June 28th, 2014


Meet your co-hosts, long-time friends, Chris and Jeff, as they discuss how they got to right now. Jeff, the one who just celebrated 14 years of sobriety, has been goint to AA since before he was in recovery. Chris, …

Episode 0000

June 14th, 2014


It began not with a bang, but with a whimper.

I have exhumed the very first expression of Since Right Now and have recommitted it to the record for posterity and the completists.

Recorded on an iPhone using the white …

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