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Siblings in Zion

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Ex-Mormon siblings Brother Dan and Sister Lisa discuss Mormon culture, religiosity, atheism, comparing their experiences growing up in 'The One True Church' and leaving the old rules behind to search for a more fulfilling way of life.

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Are Atheists Evil?

April 18th, 2021


The siblings discuss common misconceptions and misattributions of atheism, especially from theists. Primarily they discuss the exemplary debate …

Your Cult or Mine?

April 4th, 2021


In this third season premiere episode, the siblings discuss the recent documentaries on NXIVM: 'The Vow' and 'Seduced', the crimes of convicted leader Keith Raniere, and the parallels they draw with their experience …

The Universal Christ

December 31st, 2020


In the second season finale: the siblings discuss passages and themes from the book 'The Universal Christ' by Richard Rohr. They compare this larger, more inclusive, more inviting and unifying view of the Christ with …

Don't Lie to Me

December 20th, 2020


The siblings read the first of Ezra Booth's letters, which were written following his short but notable membership in the LDS church in 1831. He was …

Choose Your Prophets Wisely

November 29th, 2020


The siblings check in to share what they are grateful for, some very nice messages sent in by listeners, thoughts on the election, the NXIVM cult …

The Denial of Death

October 18th, 2020


The siblings discuss their reading of 'The Denial of Death' by Ernest Becker; how it contradicts their old Mormon understanding of an eternal self …

We Have to Go Back!

September 27th, 2020


The siblings finally return ... with no agenda but to catch up. What have they been doing instead of making new episodes?

Answers include: watching the entire series of 'Lost', reading books like The Denial of Death, …

Learning 21 Lessons for the 21st Century | Consciousness Cookies!

May 10th, 2020


The siblings discuss some of Sister Lisa’s favorite passages of ‘21 Lessons for the 21st Century’ by Yuval Noah Harari, author of ‘Sapiens’ and ‘Homo …

We're all F**king Dead!

April 26th, 2020


They say the gospel is so simple that a child can understand it. Let us see how well Sister Lisa, former missionary for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, having ingested marijuana drugs into her brains, …

Prelude to the Afterlife

April 19th, 2020


With all this scariness in our current earthly existence, death might be on the brain a little more lately. But don't worry, you will live again! Also, you already lived before!


In this episode, the siblings intend to …

Prayer vs. Probability

April 12th, 2020


Heavenly Father, are you really there?


The siblings discuss the act of praying, the mechanics of a Mormon prayer, and interpreting results as God's …

Feeling the Spirit

April 5th, 2020


To kick off season 2, Brother Dan and Sister Lisa discuss the experience of 'feeling the spirit', and how it is not exclusive to any religion or …

The Baijiu Bonus (Escaping China)

February 16th, 2020


In this bonus episode, the siblings are reunited after Sister Lisa returns early from China (news of the coronavirus broke right after this was recorded).

Over some traditional Chinese Baijiu, they talk about her …

Shout-out to Some Ex-Mo Brothers & Sisters

December 22nd, 2019


Early in production of this season, we recorded a special addendum to shout-out some other Ex-Mo creators that have been influential in our journeys but, forgot to include it!

Today we thank them, and you. Check out the …

A Word of Wisdom

December 15th, 2019


In this first season finale, the siblings further examine the Word of Wisdom - a health code of sorts which was presented to the members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in 1833. Since then, parts of …

Further Light & Knowledge

December 8th, 2019


The siblings conclude their overview of the Mormon temple ceremonies with discussions on the 'prayer circle', 'sealings', and 'conversing through the veil' with 'signs and tokens' (secret handshakes). They watch and …

High to Kolob

December 1st, 2019


'I'm learning to be a less anxious person after leaving Mormonism'

Sister Lisa is indoctrinated into the cult of cannabis. The siblings discuss the …

Endowment of Power

November 24th, 2019


The siblings discuss the 'sacred not secret' temple practice of Washing & Anointing, sister Lisa's personal experiences in the temple, the …

Baptism for the Dead

November 17th, 2019


Since the 1840s, the most common temple activity in which a Mormon person can participate is proxy baptism, or 'Baptism for the Dead'. Why do they do this? Good question. It's not as creepy as it may sound to the …

The Ballad of Sister Lisa

November 10th, 2019


In this special edition of the show, we present a condensed version of the two episodes of Dan's educational entertainment podcast The Fundamentals …

Moderation in All Things

November 3rd, 2019


It’s the end of the first recording session for the show, and the siblings have partaken of the sweet berry wines throughout the evening. So, they discuss their relationship with the things the church has prohibited and …

Apostasy in Japan 🇯🇵

October 27th, 2019


In June of 2019, Dan & Lisa met in Japan after being apart for about 10 months. Lisa had taken the opportunity to work as a teacher in China after her shelf began to break in order to contemplate the act of removing …

Clean & Pure (Patriarchal Blessings)

October 19th, 2019


In this episode Dan and Lisa read their super special, verrry unique Patriarchal Blessings (also known as Mormon horoscopes) and dissect them into what is standard Mormon jargon, what is total BS, and what is likely …

And It Came to Pass ... (Introduction)

October 19th, 2019


Welcome to Siblings in Zion! In this inaugural episode, Brother Dan & Sister Lisa introduce themselves and their intentions for this podcast. They were both born & raised in The Church of Jesus Christ of …

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