Second Life

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Join our host, Who What Wear co-founder Hillary Kerr, as she chronicles the career changes that can come at any age in our podcast, Second Life.

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Mandy Moore: Actress and Singer-Songwriter

September 23rd, 2019

49:17

There are two ways to tell Mandy Moore’s career story. While we’re familiar with the highlight reel—Moore was a breakout singer at just 15 and is a …

Ty Haney: Outdoor Voices Founder and CEO

September 16th, 2019

43:23

Tyler Haney knows activewear. She was raised in Boulder, Colorado—a town known for its outdoor activities—and grew up running track and field. With a …

Christina Tosi: Milk Bar Founder and CEO

September 9th, 2019

51:13

Before Christina Tosi started Milk Bar—the trendy bakery known for its covetable, playful desserts—she was studying math and Italian in college with …

Eva Chen: Instagram's Director of Fashion Partnerships

September 2nd, 2019

43:38

Eva Chen's résumé reads like the front row of a well-stocked magazine stand. She's held jobs at publications like Harper's Bazaar, Elle, Teen Vogue, and Lucky (where she was editor in chief, no less). Although landing a …

Lauren Conrad: Entrepreneur and The Little Market Co-Founder

August 26th, 2019

38:47

Lauren Conrad ended up on one of the world's first major reality TV shows at the tender age of 17. Since then, she's grown into the cunning, …

Emma Grede: Good American Co-Founder + CEO

August 19th, 2019

51:18

Emma Grede is the CEO and co-founder of Good American, the hugely successful, size-inclusive fashion brand that she started with none other than

Ellen Bennett: Hedley & Bennett Founder and CEO

August 12th, 2019

59:13

If anyone has mastered the art of the hustle, it's Ellen Bennett. The entrepreneurial powerhouse behind Hedley & Bennett, a Los Angeles–based chef wear and handcrafted apron company, started her own business at age …

Aurora James: Brother Vellies Founder and Creative Director

August 5th, 2019

47:36

There was a time when Aurora James never thought she'd have a seat at the proverbial table. Now, after dipping her toes in multiple industries, she's …

Jen Atkin: "The World's Most Influential Hairstylist"

July 29th, 2019

46:16

In an updated and extended interview from our very first episode, Hillary sits down with Jen Atkin, celebrity stylist and founder of cult haircare …

Anine Bing: Founder & Chief Creative Officer of Anine Bing

July 22nd, 2019

50:56

Anine Bing launched her successful clothing and accessories line in 2012, but her days once revolved around modeling, music, and blogging. Listen to …

Jennifer Meyer: Jewelry Designer and Founder of Jennifer Meyer Jewelry

July 15th, 2019

56:01

Jennifer Meyer’s career has taken a non-linear path that went from psychology to fashion editorial to PR before she founded her now wildly popular …

Lauren Kleban: Celebrity Trainer and Founder of LEKFit

July 8th, 2019

47:23

Lauren Kleban started out as a professional dancer and now runs L.A.’s popular LEKFit workout studio. Hear about her career journey and what’s next …

Life Lessons | Anastasia Soare: Anastasia Beverly Hills Founder and CEO

July 3rd, 2019

49:56

When Anastasia Soare immigrated to Los Angeles from her native Romania in the early ’90s, she had no idea she’d someday change the way we …

Paige Adams-Geller: Paige Founder and Creative Director

July 1st, 2019

51:39

Paige Adams-Geller was a fit model and actress before founding lifestyle and denim brand Paige in 2004. The brand now has a global presence and a slew of celebrity fans.

Life Lessons | Laura Vassar: Brock Collection Co-Founder

June 26th, 2019

34:59

Laura Vassar has spent most of her life crafting beautiful ready-to-wear, a passion that began in high school when she learned to sew and designed …

Nancy Twine: Briogeo Founder and CEO

June 24th, 2019

55:06

Nancy Twine went from working at Goldman Sachs to becoming the founder and CEO of clean, buzzy haircare brand Briogeo. Find out how she did it on …

Life Lessons | Molly McNearney: Jimmy Kimmel Live! Co–Head Writer

June 19th, 2019

57:33

When Molly McNearney arrived in Los Angeles and landed an interview to work as an assistant producer at Jimmy Kimmel Live, she jumped at the chance …

Whitney Tingle: Sakara Co-Founder and Co-CEO

June 17th, 2019

42:14

Whitney Tingle went from working on Wall Street to co-founding Sakara Life, the go-to meal-delivery service of celebrities like Chrissy Teigen. Hear about her journey from finance to wellness on Second Life.

Life Lessons | Mercedes Abramo: Cartier North America President and CEO

June 12th, 2019

50:27

Mercedes Abramo, president and CEO of Cartier North America, has never been one to avoid taking risks or making moves. In fact, her career as a businesswoman has taken her all over the world, from the Ritz Carlton in …

Ariel Kaye: Parachute Founder and CEO

June 10th, 2019

45:27

Ariel Kaye started her career in PR and digital advertising. Now she’s the founder and CEO of Parachute , the wildly popular direct-to-consumer …

Life Lessons | Gregg Renfrew: Beautycounter Founder and CEO

June 5th, 2019

54:55

Gregg Renfrew has been an entrepreneur practically all her life… She started her own business cleaning summer homes when she was in college at the …

Michelle Pfeiffer: Actor, Producer, and Founder of Henry Rose

June 3rd, 2019

43:07

In addition to her prolific acting career, Michelle Pfeiffer recently created a clean fragrance line called Henry Rose. Listen to her story and learn …

Life Lessons | Tamara Mellon: Designer, Founder, and Fashion Entrepreneur

May 29th, 2019

52:25

When Tamara Mellon started working at Brown’s in London at age 18, she never could have imagined that the experience would someday lead to working at

Katherine Power: Who What Wear and Versed Founder and CEO

May 27th, 2019

51:23

Katherine Power moved to L.A. on her own at 16 to be a professional dancer. Now, she’s the co-founder and CEO of Who What Wear while also leading its namesake clothing line at Target and new skincare line, Versed. …

Life Lessons | Jenni Konner: Showrunner, Producer, Writer, and Director

May 22nd, 2019

48:19

Jenni Konner always knew she wanted to work in entertainment, but she didn’t necessarily know that she’d find herself executive-producing one of the most talked-about TV shows of our time. On this week’s episode of Life …

Kathryn Duryea: Year & Day Founder and CEO

May 20th, 2019

49:31

After working as a special assistant at the White House, then in brand marketing for companies like Tiffany & Co., Kathryn Duryea started Year & Day, which is shaking up the tableware space with its chic, …

Life Lessons | Karla Welch: Hollywood Stylist, Designer, and Founder of X Karla

May 15th, 2019

55:03

Karla Welch is the in-demand stylist behind some of the biggest names in entertainment, from Justin Bieber to Tracee Ellis Ross to Elisabeth Moss. In the first episode of the Life Lessons series, listen to how she got …

Erica Chidi Cohen: Loom Co-Founder and CEO, Doula, and Author

May 13th, 2019

53:01

Erica Chidi Cohen is the co-founder and CEO of Loom, the Los Angeles–based empowered education and wellness center that focuses on everything from periods to parenting. In the latest episode of Second Life, listen to …

Reshma Saujani: Girls Who Code Founder & CEO, Author, and Activist

May 6th, 2019

47:18

Reshma Saujani once had political aspirations, even becoming the first Indian American woman to run for Congress. Now, she's the CEO and founder of …

Sarah Gibson Tuttle: Olive & June Founder and CEO

April 29th, 2019

52:42

What happens when you leave an established finance career in NYC to open a nail salon in Los Angeles? Olive and June founder Sarah Gibson Tuttle has some answers. She had spent 10 years working as an equity sales trader …

Sarah Lee: Glow Recipe Co-Founder and Co-CEO

April 22nd, 2019

54:18

Korean skincare expert and Glow Recipe co-founder Sarah Lee spent years in the corporate beauty world at L'Oreal Paris before making the leap to …

Lykke Li: Singer, Songwriter, and Yola Mezcal Co-Founder

April 15th, 2019

56:41

Swedish singer-songwriter Lykke Li has more on her plate than just her music career. In the newest episode of Second Life, she tells Hillary Kerr …

Shay Mitchell: Actress, Author, Producer, and Entrepreneur

April 8th, 2019

55:42

Acting on not one but two hit shows may be satisfying enough for some, but Pretty Little Liars and You star Shay Mitchell is determined to pursue a variety of other interests. She's already written a YA novel and has …

LIVE! From SXSW With Liz Lambert: Bunkhouse Group Hotelier

April 1st, 2019

44:29

How does one go from a job in the district attorney's office to a career as a hotelier running some of the coolest hotels in the U.S. and Mexico? …

Jessica Yellin: Journalist, Author, and Former CNN Chief White House Correspondent

March 25th, 2019

54:13

Where do you get your news? If Jessica Yellin's Instagram isn't at the top of your list, it will be soon. The former chief White House correspondent for CNN and founder of #NewsNotNoise tells Second Life how she took …

Sophia Roe: Chef, Wellness Expert, and Content Creator

March 18th, 2019

49:42

Sophia Roe's passion for food and wellness started as a distraction from her tough childhood. Growing up with parents who were substance abusers and eventually ending up in the foster care system, Roe found comfort and …

Veronica Swanson Beard & Veronica Miele Beard: Veronica Beard Co-Founders

March 11th, 2019

54:22

Armed with experience in finance and fashion buying, respectively, sisters-in-law Veronica Miele Beard and Veronica Swanson Beard started their fashion brand with a single jacket style and no business plan. A decade …

Susan Tynan: Framebridge Founder and CEO

March 4th, 2019

43:06

All of our guests have changed careers at some point, but Susan Tynan's path took several different turns on her way to raising $67 million in venture financing for Framebridge, a quick and affordable custom framing …

Nancy Silverton: Celebrity Chef, Restaurateur, and Author

February 25th, 2019

1:02:35

It started with a crush. Renowned chef, restaurant owner, and author Nancy Silverton first developed an interest in the food industry because she had …

Raissa Gerona: Revolve Chief Brand Officer

February 18th, 2019

47:13

L.A.-based retailer Revolve paved the way for influencer trips that now take over your Instagram feed, and Raissa Gerona is the brains behind the …

Sara & Erin Foster: Bumble Heads of Creative

February 11th, 2019

49:49

Erin and Sara Foster are nothing if not honest. In the newest episode of Second Life, the sisters get real about feeling in over their heads, …

Shiona Turini: Stylist and Costume Designer

February 4th, 2019

52:26

Shiona Turini has the résumé that anyone with a dream of working in fashion envies. In episode 50 of Second Life, she shares what she learned cutting her teeth at the industry's major print magazines before fearlessly …

Sierra Tishgart: Great Jones Co-Founder

January 28th, 2019

49:38

Everyone has interests outside of work, but not everyone knows how to turn their side hustle into a successful business. But it's safe to say that …

Kendra Scott: Designer and CEO

January 21st, 2019

54:43

How do you go from being a hat maker to running a billion-dollar jewelry brand? In episode 48 of Second Life, Kendra Scott tells Hillary Kerr about …

Hannah Bronfman: HBFit Founder, DJ, and Author

January 14th, 2019

35:42

Like many of us, Hannah Bronfman's most valuable college experience came from outside the classroom. Bronfman successfully pivoted from being a …

Aimee Song: Fashion Blogger, Influencer, and Author

January 7th, 2019

38:49

Aimee Song's rise to fashion blogger stardom is a lesson in what you can accomplish by following your passions. The fashion guru behind Song of Style

Jamie Kantrowitz: Countertop Foods Co-Founder and CEO

December 31st, 2018

35:45

Jamie Kantrowitz co-founded Countertop with Nicole Rice based on the goal of helping people focus on wellness through simple and delicious home …

Jennifer Lopez: Actress, Singer, Producer, and Icon, With Producer and Writer Elaine Goldsmith-Thomas

December 24th, 2018

32:30

Everybody knows that before Jennifer Lopez was the multihyphenate superstar she is today, she was Jenny from the block. But most people don’t know …

Kerry O'Brien: Commando Founder and CEO

December 17th, 2018

38:28

Kerry O'Brien never could have anticipated that her career in public relations would lead her to become an underwear designer, but that's exactly …

Carla Hall: Chef, TV Personality, and Cookbook Author

December 10th, 2018

49:48

Carla Hall was always a creative, but before competing on Top Chef, authoring cookbooks, and starring on The Chew, she was auditing at a big …

Meredith Melling: La Ligne Co-Founder

December 3rd, 2018

47:06

Meredith Melling is proof that landing your dream job isn't the end of your career path. In fact, it might even just be the beginning. Melling always wanted to work in fashion, and with a bit of luck, good timing, and …

Ty Haney: Outdoor Voices Founder and CEO

November 26th, 2018

44:22

Tyler Haney knows activewear. She was raised in Boulder, Colorado—a town known for its outdoor activities—and grew up running track and field. With a …

Christina Tosi: Milk Bar Founder and CEO

November 19th, 2018

51:47

Before Christina Tosi started Milk Bar—the trendy bakery known for its covetable, playful desserts—she was studying math and Italian in college with …

Cyndi Ramirez-Fulton: Chillhouse Founder

November 12th, 2018

38:29

If you've ever visited NYC's trendy new spa-salon-café hybrid, Chillhouseyou can already appreciate the way Cyndi Ramirez-Fulton is cashing in on …

Eva Chen: Instagram's Director of Fashion Partnerships

November 5th, 2018

44:05

Eva Chen's résumé reads like the front row of a well-stocked magazine stand. She's held jobs at publications like Harper's Bazaar, Elle, Teen Vogue, and Lucky (where she was editor in chief, no less). Although landing a …

Kerry Diamond: Cherry Bombe Co-Founder and Smith Canteen Owner

October 29th, 2018

44:57

Kerry Diamond has been starting businesses since she was in the third grade launching a school newspaper. "I am very fortunate in that I knew from a …

Busy Philipps: Actress, Author and TV Host

October 22nd, 2018

47:55

Busy Philipps always knew she would be an actress. In fact, she was studying theater in college when she landed her first major role as Kim Kelly on …

Amber Lewis: Amber Interiors Owner, Designer, and Blogger

October 15th, 2018

38:39

Interior designer Amber Lewis, the force behind Amber Interiors, is proof that you don't necessarily need a college degree or a straightforward …

Amanda Hesser: Food52 Co-Founder and CEO

October 8th, 2018

37:55

Amanda Hesser is responsible for the chic e-commerce and community site Food52, which she launched with co-founder Merrill Stubbs in 2009. Before she struck out on her own, the foodie had a thriving career as an editor …

Rosie O'Neill: Sugarfina Co-Founder and Co-CEO

October 1st, 2018

52:06

If you've given or received a gift in the last six years, you've probably heard of Sugarfina, the luxury candy brand made for grown-ups. The …

Emma Grede: Good American Co-Founder and CEO

September 24th, 2018

51:32

Emma Grede is the CEO and co-founder of Good American, the hugely successful, size-inclusive fashion brand that she started with none other than

Norah Weinstein and Kelly Sawyer Patricof: Baby2Baby Co-Presidents

September 17th, 2018

42:35

Kelly Sawyer Patricof and Norah Weinstein, co-presidents of the nonprofit Baby2Baby, met on a blind date. Well, a double blind date with their husbands, orchestrated by Patricof's father-in-law. Since then, Patricof and …

Ellen Bennett: Hedley & Bennett Founder and CEO

September 10th, 2018

57:47

If anyone has mastered the art of the hustle, it's Ellen Bennett. The entrepreneurial powerhouse behind Hedley & Bennett, a Los Angeles–based chef wear and handcrafted apron company, started her own business at age …

Emily Henderson: Home Style Expert and Design Guru

August 27th, 2018

56:38

Emily Henderson is proof that when you're passionate about something, you can turn it into a thriving career—no matter what you studied in college or …

Jaclyn Johnson: Create & Cultivate Founder and CEO

August 20th, 2018

40:25

When Jaclyn Johnson held the first Create & Cultivate conference in 2011 out of a desire to form a community of like-minded, creative women, she …

Shani Darden: Celebrity Esthetician

August 13th, 2018

34:47

Shani Darden is a name that rolls off the tongue of celebrities like Rosie Huntington-Whiteley, Jessica Alba, and Chrissy Teigen when they talk about …

Aurora James: Brother Vellies Founder

August 6th, 2018

45:16

There was a time when Aurora James never thought she'd have a seat at the proverbial table. Now, after dipping her toes in multiple industries, she's …

Linda Wells: Flesh Beauty Founder and Revlon Chief Creative Officer

July 30th, 2018

48:07

When Linda Wells landed her first job as an editorial assistant in the beauty department of Vogue, she didn't have so much as a five-year-plan. She …

Brooklyn Decker and Whitney Casey: Finery Co-Founders

July 23rd, 2018

47:28

Former broadcast journalist Whitney Casey and model-turned-actress Brooklyn Decker know something you don't. You spend years of your life—10 to be exact—picking out clothes to wear and to pack for all of life's many …

Alli Webb: Drybar Founder

July 16th, 2018

49:57

People with curly and straight hair alike know the power of a good blowout. It was this simple idea that catapulted Alli Webb from former hairstylist …

Andrea Lieberman: A.L.C. Founder and Designer

July 9th, 2018

37:21

Andrea Lieberman knew that she was meant to work in fashion ever since she moved to Manhattan at age 13. "I realized at a very early age that I just found what I was meant to do," she tells Hillary Kerr in episode 21 of

April Gargiulo: Vintner's Daughter Founder

July 2nd, 2018

35:14

Not everyone is lucky enough to stumble upon a career they're passionate about early in life. For April Gargiulo, the founder of skincare company 

Lauren Conrad: Entrepreneur and TheLittleMarket.com Co-Founder

June 25th, 2018

39:47

Lauren Conrad ended up on one of the world's first major reality TV shows at the tender age of 17. Since then, she's grown into the cunning, …

Marianna Hewitt: Influencer, Blogger and Co-Founder of Summer Fridays

June 18th, 2018

40:06

When you grow up in Ohio with dreams of moving to Los Angeles, becoming a TV host, and owning a Range Rover, people don't always take you seriously, according to Marianna Hewitt. However, with a bit of luck, …

Jen Gotch: ban.do Founder and Chief Creative Officer

June 11th, 2018

39:20

If you asked Jen Gotch in her 20s what her career might be like today, she'd have had absolutely no idea. "I'm a late bloomer," she tells Hillary …

Cassandra Grey: Violet Grey Founder

June 4th, 2018

38:42

From an early age, Cassandra Grey understood that you have to work for the things you need in life. It's part of what motivated her to not only work …

Anna Brockway: Chairish Co-Founder and Chief Marketing Officer

May 28th, 2018

40:00

The fast-paced world of advertising couldn't seem more opposite to vintage furniture shopping. However, after pressing pause on a career in marketing …

Mandy Moore: Actress and Singer-Songwriter

May 21st, 2018

47:05

There are two ways to tell Mandy Moore’s career story. While we’re familiar with the highlight reel—Moore was a breakout singer at just 15 and is a …

Sophia Rossi: HelloGiggles Co-Founder

May 14th, 2018

30:09

Sophia Rossi's résumé is filled with accomplishments, but there's one achievement you won't find on there: graduate. The fiercely successful CEO of …

Tracy Sun: Poshmark Co-Founder

May 7th, 2018

36:43

Tracy Sun may be at the helm of the impressive fashion-tech startup Poshmark, but she doesn't consider herself a "fashion person." She studied …

Jessica Alba: Actress and Founder of The Honest Company

April 30th, 2018

41:03

Having a successful career might seem like the goal for many actors, but for Jessica Alba, it was a foundation to try something entirely new: …

Raina Penchansky: Digital Brand Architects Co-Founder and CEO

April 23rd, 2018

40:43

Few people would consider dropping out of college at age 19 to be a pivotal first step toward an impressive career, but that's exactly what Raina …

Kelly LeVeque: Holistic Nutritionist and Celebrity Health Coach

April 16th, 2018

44:17

Making the decision to change careers isn't always clear-cut, but holistic nutritionist Kelly LeVeque can pinpoint the moment she realized she was on …

Natasha Case: Coolhaus Co-Founder and CEO

April 9th, 2018

36:01

Architecture and ice cream may sound like an unlikely combination, but bringing these two concepts together created a recipe for success for Natasha …

Emily Current and Meritt Elliott: Hollywood Power Stylists and Designers Behind The Great

April 2nd, 2018

36:58

Emily Current and Meritt Elliot have achieved something that most friends only ever dream about. What started as a college friendship blossomed into …

Mandana Dayani: Everything But the House Chief Brand Officer

March 26th, 2018

38:59

From an outsider's point of view, Mandana Dayani was on a clear path to success: After graduating from USC Gould School of Law, she had an offer …

Kelly Oxford: New York Times Best-Selling Author

March 19th, 2018

38:38

It's hard to sum up Kelly Oxford's career without resorting to a list. She's a New York Times best-selling author, screenwriter, sexual assault …

Michelle Lee: Allure Editor in Chief

March 12th, 2018

30:12

In the publishing industry, few challenges are as daunting as reinventing a beloved classic, but that's exactly what Allure Editor in Chief Michelle Lee was asked to do. In episode four of Second Life, Lee explains how …

Candace Nelson: Sprinkles Cupcakes Founder

March 5th, 2018

33:25

Few people can be credited with starting a national food craze like Candace Nelson did. The pastry chef and entrepreneur sparked America's cupcake obsession when she opened Sprinkles Cupcakes in 2005, the first of its …

Jenna Bans: Hollywood Showrunner and Creator of NBC's Good Girls

February 26th, 2018

33:40

Jenna Bans's résumé is scarily similar to the list of TV shows we love to binge. As a producer and writer on Grey's Anatomy, co–executive producer on Scandal, and creator of NBC's new crime drama, Good Girls, she's the …

Jen Atkin: "The World's Most Influential Hair Stylist"

February 19th, 2018

30:32

In our very first episode, host Hillary Kerr sits down with the one and only Jen Atkin, celebrity stylist and founder of cult haircare line Ouai. …

Preview of Second Life, Our New Show

February 13th, 2018

0:57

Join our host, Who What Wear and MyDomaine co-founder Hillary Kerr, as she chronicles the career changes that can come at any age in our new podcast, Second Life. 

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