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Progression Podcast

30 EpisodesProduced by ProgressionWebsite

As tech teams we're great at designing and building products and experiences that people love. But one thing that we still can't do effectively is design our own careers.With the help of regular contributors and special guests, we dig into why that is, tackling questions around managing vs making, m… read more

30 Episodes | 2018 - 2023

#29 Jackie Bavaro (Asana, Google) on having impact as a Product Manager

January 25th, 2023


Jackie Bavaro was most recently Head of Product Management for eight years at Asana, the well-loved work management software, where she joined pre-launch as the first PM. During her tenure, she grew the PM team to over …

#28 Steve Bianchi (Beamery, Unilever) on the rise of the people-focused COO and a capability-based future

September 29th, 2021


This week Jonny chats to Steve Bianchi, CHRO and COO of talent operating system Beamery. A real futurist and systems thinker, Steve gets into the future of the people team, why people leaders make good Chief Operating …

#27 Lucas Coelho (Roam Digital) on building an academy, leadership lessons and how to run a happy team

September 7th, 2021


In this episode Jonny chats to Lucas Coelho — VP of design at Roam Digital — about growing as a leader, his thoughts on how to build a bench of good …

#26 Brian Lovin (Github, Spectrum, Design Details) on the rise of the senior IC

June 23rd, 2021


In this episode, Jonny chats with Brian about the rise of the very senior IC (Individual Contributor) - a subject close to our heart at Progression. We also go into the process of creating a startup and Brian's …

#25 Sarah Clatterbuck (Yahoo, LinkedIn, Google) on frameworks for startups vs large orgs and avoiding anti-patterns

June 4th, 2021


In this episode, Sarah Clatterbuck, Senior Director of Engineering at Google sits down with Neil to discuss a whole range of topics including:

  • What …

#24: Jessie Hayes (Whereby, Box) on treating people like a product and keeping frameworks light

May 12th, 2021


This episode, Jonny chats to Jessie Hayes, VP People and Talent at Whereby, the London video platform. 

As one of the first 'People people' on the pod, Jessie goes through her personal career journey to get to Whereby, …

#23: Gonçalo Silva (CTO, Doist) on building progression frameworks for a distributed team

March 25th, 2021


We're back after a bit of a break with a new series of Progression Pods - this time we're mixing up the presenter so watch out for some new voices from the team.

In this episode, Gonçalo Silva, CTO at Doist (creators of …

#22: Inside Progression Ep2 — Jonny and Neil catch-up

June 10th, 2020


It's been a while since Jonny and Neil sat down to talk through Product progress, plans and strategy. This somewhat unplanned ramble-chat covers how we're thinking about high touch vs low touch go-to-market, COVID …

Progression anti-racism statement

June 9th, 2020


A statement about our Anti-racism stance and plans for making Progression an anti-racist product and business.

Read the full statement and more …

#21 Cap Watkins (Primary, Buzzfeed) on helping new managers and the problem with taking other people's career ladders

March 11th, 2020


Cap Watkins is CXO at Primary, where he's responsible for Design, Product, People and engineering (oh my!).

In the recent past, he was a professional …

#20: Irene Au (Khosla Ventures, Google) on scaling design teams and practices, scaling yourself and finding your why

January 28th, 2020


About Irene

Irene is a designer and veteran design leader, leading design and user experience at Google, Yahoo, Netscape, and Udacity. She was once …

#19: Ryan Carson (CEO, Treehouse) on a winding journey to training 100,000 new software engineers

January 7th, 2020


About Ryan

Ryan Carson has been a huge figure in tech and online learning for a long time now through his company Treehouse, but his journey to get there and onwards from this success story is a journey of learning …

#18 Anne-Laure Le Cunff on mindfulness, burnout, writing every day and building a business

December 18th, 2019


Today’s guest: Anne-Laure Le Cunff

Anne-Laure is a prolific writer, thinker and learner. From a background in tech at companies like Google, she's …

#17 Kara DeFrias on changing careers, curing cancer and being a sponsor

December 6th, 2019


I loved chatting to Kara back in August, excited to finally get this episode out to your ears!

Kara started her career as an instructional designer, eventually working her way to leading user experience design through …

#16 Dave Malouf on Design Ops and the power of speaking on stage

November 8th, 2019


Dave Malouf is a veteran design leader, strategist, facilitator, researcher, and educator who has worked with some of the largest and fastest growing organizations globally. He's probably best known for his work around …

#15: Inside Progression with Jonny and Neil – teamwork, a new feature and biscuit reviews

September 6th, 2019


Hey friends! It's been a while...

We're having a mini-break from regular episodes for the summer, but to celebrate Neil officially joining the team …

#14: Todd Zaki Warfel (Leadership coach, Design Career Index report) on frameworks and job satisfaction

July 9th, 2019


Todd is a Design leader, leadership coach and lifelong learner. He recently released findings from a survey of over 800 design teams globally, with a focus on career growth and team health.

We dive into his findings- …

#13: Sana Rao (Twitter, Deliveroo) on life changes, sponsorship and scaling design teams through change

June 13th, 2019


Sana Rao was born in India, educated at the School of Visual Arts in NYC and spent 4 years at Twitter designing a bunch of the mobile experience we …

#12: Peter Merholz (Adaptive Path, Org Design for Design Orgs) on org design and ethics

May 28th, 2019


In this twelfth episode of the Progression Podcast I'm chatting to Peter Merholz, co-founder of Adaptive Path, long time speaker and blogger on …

#11: Braden Kowitz (Google Ventures, Range) on co-creating the Design Sprint, becoming a founder and his design journey

May 7th, 2019


In this episode I'm talking to Braden Kowitz, an SF based designer and founder.

Braden's work has been hugely impactful on how we design today …

#10: Jasmine Friedl (Intercom) on having a deliberate career and overcoming challenges

April 24th, 2019


Jasmine Friedl is now Director of Design at Intercom in San Francisco, but has had an interesting, varied career, learning her trade at Facebook before some time at Udacity amongst others. 

We talked about deliberately …

#9: Kevin Goldsmith on the Spotify model and rolling out progression at scale

April 2nd, 2019


Back in January I chatted to Kevin Goldsmith, a very experienced technical leader with background at companies including Microsoft, Adobe, Spotify …

#8: Mills (ustwo) on having to change to stay the same

February 26th, 2019


Mills is kind of a legend of the London product and agency scene and co-founder and cultural hub of ustwo, the company behind (amongst others) the …

#7: Designing your design career, with Jonny and Austin

January 29th, 2019


First podcast of the year! Took long enough...

Jonny and Austin chat about their upcoming workshop – a collaboration with General Assembly – for …

#6: Jason Mesut on Online Mistakes and Designer Shapes

December 5th, 2018


This week I'm on the pod with Jason Mesut, designer and mapper of design skills. We get into both his work over the last decade in mapping the shapes …

#5: Lauren Currie and Bud Caddell on making work fair

November 14th, 2018


This week I chatted to Lauren Currie OBE, a service designer, blogger, passionate advocate of social issues, and managing director of NOBL here in the UK, as well as Bud Caddell, the founder of the California based …

#4: Jonny and Austin chitchat

October 15th, 2018


Alongside talking to leaders in design and careers, I'll be spending some episodes coming back to fine people like Austin Keeble to talk through ongoing progress of our projects and challenges that we see in the broader …

#3: Jen Dary on Becoming a Manager and Taking a Break

October 10th, 2018


This episode, I'm chatting to Jen Dary, a leadership coach, workshop organiser, writer and card-maker from California. Jen runs Plucky, a company focused on helping companies and their people create happier workplaces. …

#2: Andy Budd on Ownership and UX titles

October 1st, 2018


I take this episode to chat to Andy Budd, founder of design agency Clearleft, outspoken social media presence and organiser of several design conferences here in the UK.

We talk about issues with designer titles, …

Episode 1: Minimum Viable Podcast

September 4th, 2018


In the first ever episode, I'm joined by fantastic designer and design educator Austin Keeble, for discussion on design progression, levelling and expectations at work.

Among other things I ask Austin for feedback on the …

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