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POP ART: Episode 60, The Big Blue/Wings

HIGH AND LOW: Join me and actor, writer, producer Thomas Goersh (the award winning short film Unhappy) as we talk The Big Blue and Wings.

“I was just trying to get one more Heine for you” As Petula Clark sang in her hit song: My love is warmer than the warmest sunshine, softer than a sigh/My love is deeper than the deepest ocean, wider than the sky…Sounds like it’s time for Episode 60 of Pop Art, the podcast where my guest chooses a movie from popular culture, and I’ll select a film from the more art/classic/indie side of cinema with a connection to it. This time, I am happy to welcome as my guest, actor, screenwriter, TV host, festival and film director,Thomas Goersch, who has chosen as his film French director Luc Besson’s game changing The Big Blue, while I have chosen the film that won the first Oscar for best picture, Wings, both films about friends becoming rivals and rivals becoming friends in the highly tense and dangerous worlds of free diving and World War I fighter pilots.

And in this episode, we ask such questions as: Where is the nudity in Wings? What are the differences between the true story and the film of The Big Blue? What was unique about the aerial scenes in Wings? What is an “It” girl or guy? Why wasn’t The Big Blue not shown in Italy for years? What is the Cinema du Look? What was the end of French Cinema as know it?

Look for Thomas’ short film Unhappy at a film festival near you.

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