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Which 2020 Democrat should Donald Trump most be afraid of?

June 26th, 2019

39:18
To get the inside view from the only people in the world who know what it’s like to run in a primary field so large -- and do so in the shadow of Donald Trump -- we invited the strategists for four of the top GOP …

This is what Kirsten Gillibrand hates about running for president

May 31st, 2019

25:49
Kirsten Gillibrand is a U.S. Senator with a soaring national profile, but her presidential campaign has yet to take flight. She’s even at risk of …

Is John Hickenlooper too normal to be president?

March 29th, 2019

23:09
In a crowded field of Democratic presidential contenders, former Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper makes an impression on voters as a genuine …

How it feels to win (and lose) a House majority

November 8th, 2018

58:40
For our post-midterms edition of Off Message, we talked to Corry Bliss and Charlie Kelly, the two men who led the largest House campaign organizations in 2018. This election, Bliss led the Republican-aligned …

David Axelrod: Voters don't want a ‘Democratic version of Trump’

October 30th, 2018

59:17
The strategist behind Obama's presidential campaigns gives his midterms predictions, shares his lightning-round thoughts on 2020 candidates and tells …

Meet the next Ted Cruz

October 23rd, 2018

48:39
When Chip Roy was a top staffer for Ted Cruz, he was an architect of the Texas senator’s strategy to shut down the government over Obamacare.

Now, in all likelihood, he’s heading for Congress with a House seat of his …

Steve Scalise thinks he knows who'll be the next House Speaker

October 16th, 2018

51:31
Steve Scalise was nearly killed last summer when a gunman opened fire at the Republican congressional baseball team’s practice. Last September, after months of surgeries and intensive rehabilitation, the Louisiana …

John Kerry on 2020, Trump and why we need to ask ourselves "what did you do?"

October 9th, 2018

49:16
Isaac's last episode: The former secretary of state has led a Forrest Gump-like life, from his high-school days playing hockey with Bob Mueller to …

Elijah Cummings is ready to investigate Trump

October 2nd, 2018

50:39
If Democrats retake the House, Maryland congressman Elijah Cummings will likely become the new chair of the Oversight committee. Here, a preview of what to expect from their coming investigations of the Trump …

Ken Starr: If I was Trump's lawyer, ‘I would be very concerned’

September 25th, 2018

47:45
The Clinton-era independent counsel weighs in on Brett Kavanaugh, why Trump has an obligation to answer Mueller's questions and whether he plans to …

Mazie Hirono: Brett Kavanaugh is fudging the truth

September 18th, 2018

1:01:03
Hawaii Sen. Mazie Hirono gets candid about why she believes Kavanaugh's accuser, what it's like being the only immigrant in the U.S. Senate, and shares her own #MeToo story.

Mazie Hirono thinks Supreme Court nominee …

Ben Jealous: ‘Americans are suffering under the weight of half-measures’

September 11th, 2018

58:44
Ben Jealous is a venture capitalist. Opponents call him a socialist. He says that’s the cost of wanting “people to be treated in a way that’s just.”

Ben Jealous campaigned all over the country for Bernie Sanders, but he …

Seth Meyers: Trump wanted me to apologize for making fun of him (REPRISE)

September 4th, 2018

44:54
A reprise episode: It wasn’t all porn star hush money: Michael Cohen once tried to negotiate an appearance by Donald Trump on Seth Meyers’ show, for what the “Late Night” host pitched as a fun way of coming together …

Tony Perkins: Trump gets ‘a mulligan’ on Stormy Daniels and other past indiscretions (REPRISE)

August 28th, 2018

47:56
A reprise episode: Donald Trump is still the answer to many conservative evangelical leaders’ prayers. Or at least to their continuing grievances. …

Why Michael Hayden says Trump is helping Russia (Reprise)

August 21st, 2018

43:23
Michael Hayden doesn’t know whether Donald Trump colluded with the Russian attack on the 2016 election—but he’s sure the president helped the Kremlin …

Randi Weingarten: For unions, this is a ‘which side are you on’ moment

August 14th, 2018

52:03
The president of the American Federation of Teachers says that union members haven’t just cooled on Trump—they’ve turned on him. Union leaders and …

Shannon Watts: How to create an ‘army of angry moms and women’ from your own kitchen

August 7th, 2018

53:13
The founder of Moms Demand Action talks about how she created one of the most successful gun control groups in the country—and where they go from …

John Dean: Nixon ‘might have survived if there'd been a Fox News’ — Reprise

July 31st, 2018

46:09
This week, an encore presentation of an interview we first brought you earlier this year. John Dean was the star witness of the Watergate investigation — the counsel to President Richard Nixon who famously flipped and …

Marty Walsh: Working-class Trump voters ‘forgot where they came from’

July 24th, 2018

48:39
Marty Walsh is a college drop-out and recovering alcoholic who grew up in a union household and worked his way up through organized labor and local …

Francis Suarez: Miami's almost-millennial, Latino mayor doesn't like labels

July 17th, 2018

40:47
Francis Suarez believes he may be the first Miami-born mayor of Miami. He also has a front-row seat to his swing state's senate and gubernatorial races. He didn't vote for Trump, but Mar-a-Lago isn't far. 






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Kate Andersen Brower: Making sense of the Trump-Pence relationship

July 10th, 2018

41:05
How does Mike Pence keep his boss happy? By staying out of the spotlight, for starters, says journalist Kate Andersen Brower, whose new book looks at the relationships between presidents and their vice presidents. She …

Tom Arnold: 'Donald Trump is a D-list president, and his enemies are D-list, like Tom Arnold'

July 3rd, 2018

49:47
Tom Arnold talks about his hunt for Trump tapes, his selfie with Michael Cohen, and the mad coincidences that have injected him into a handful of …

Seth Moulton: ‘We have a commander in chief that we fundamentally can’t trust.’

June 26th, 2018

55:49
Congressman Seth Moulton is amassing an army of service-oriented Democratic candidates. His goal isn’t simply to defeat Trump; it’s to change …

Kirsten Gillibrand: Trump is pushing the ‘devil’s schemes’

June 19th, 2018

52:43
The New York senator has a different word for the family separation policy which the attorney general and White House press secretary call …

Jenny Durkan: ‘The baton got dropped,’ and Obama alums are running to finish what he started

June 12th, 2018

42:05
Seattle Mayor Jenny Durkan was the first Obama appointee to win a major election after his presidency. She's part of a network of Obama administration officials that want his presidency to mark the start of a new …

John Delaney: The 2020 long-shot candidate who’s gaining ground in Iowa

June 5th, 2018

42:42
For Congressman John Delaney, the 2020 campaign is already underway. The money is there. So is the commitment. And people in are starting to pay attention.

The little-known Maryland congressman thinks that’s part of what …

Steyer: Pelosi is ‘normalizing’ Trump by not talking about impeachment

May 29th, 2018

48:50
The billionaire California activist says Democratic leaders who don’t take up the cause aren't just writing off millions of potential voters, they …

Jimmy Carter: ‘Democracy has reached its peak and is declining’

May 22nd, 2018

23:53
Former President Jimmy Carter joins us to talk about the lack of moral leadership in the White House, faith, and what it would take for Donald Trump …

Benjamin: ‘I don’t know exactly what the president cares and doesn’t care about’

May 15th, 2018

44:36
Trump has lived his whole life in the city. So why does he have such an adversarial relationship with mayors? Mayor Steve Benjamin, the head of the …

Seth Meyers: Trump wanted me to apologize for making fun of him

May 8th, 2018

44:49
The “Late Night” host talks about President Trump, the White House Correspondents Dinner, and the time Trump sent Michael Cohen to negotiate a mea …

Chris Matthews: ‘I’m not sure trust is what people want from Trump’

May 1st, 2018

54:30
The host of MSNBC's "Hardball" and sharp observer of politics talks about 2020, what Trump understands about white ethnic politics and what you don't …

The millennial mayor who could make universal basic income a reality

April 24th, 2018

44:13
Michael Tubbs is the 27-year-old leader of one of California’s biggest cities. And he’s using that position to try out some truly radical policy …

Rubin: Trump’s GOP ‘has become the caricature the left always said it was’

April 17th, 2018

46:10
Jennifer Rubin has become a leading voice for conservative intellectuals who don’t fit comfortably in either political party—and sees the party she …

Inside Puerto Rico’s Plan to Influence the Midterm Elections

April 10th, 2018

40:26
Frustrated by Congress’s response to Hurricane Maria, Puerto Rico Governor Ricardo Rosselló is preparing to drop a ‘hammer’ in targeted states in 2018.

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Should Sessions wrap up the Mueller probe?

April 3rd, 2018

44:26
Rep. Matt Gaetz has emerged as Trump’s apprentice in Congress, receiving late-night phone calls from the president after his TV appearances defending him. He thinks the time has come for Attorney General Jeff Sessions …

Pete Buttigieg gets closer to a 2020 campaign

March 27th, 2018

55:50
The 36-year-old South Bend mayor is an Afghanistan veteran, Rhodes Scholar, out gay man and plain-spoken Midwesterner. He also has a PAC spending …

Beto O'Rourke doesn’t want to be Democrats' next national cause

March 20th, 2018

57:29
The Texas congressman talks about his campaign to oust Ted Cruz, the lyrics he wrote in his old punk band, and the ways he wishes he was more like …

Schwarzenegger lets loose on Trump, Big Oil and #MeToo

March 12th, 2018

1:00:58
Live from SXSW, Arnold Schwarzenegger joins Isaac Dovere for a wide-ranging conversation on politics, the environment — and even the upcoming …

Democrats Vow to Go After GOP Governors ‘Kowtowing’ to Trump

March 6th, 2018

43:13
Jay Inslee, the governor of Washington and head of the Democratic Governors Association, wants gubernatorial races to become a battlefield for the anti-Trump resistance.

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Michael Hayden on Trump, Russia and why you can expect more from Mueller

February 27th, 2018

44:11
Retired General and former CIA Director Michael Hayden sees a "convergence" between the Trump campaign and Russia. He's ‘very concerned’ about it—and …

BONUS: Utah Gov. on Romney’s Trump Endorsement Flip: ‘Things Have Changed’

February 24th, 2018

30:38
Utah Governor Gary Herbert explains why he doesn't mind Romney's flip-flop on taking Trump's endorsement, the gun law changes he'd like to see, and why Utah is chasing another shot at hosting the Olympics.

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Yes to “thoughts and prayers,” but why not action, too?

February 20th, 2018

44:48
New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy talks about gun violence, what he has in common with Donald Trump, and his time working as a textbook salesman.

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‘Black women are realizing the power of their vote’

February 13th, 2018

39:18
Atlanta Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms on the political rise of black women, what it would take for Democrats to win Georgia in 2020, and how it feels to …

Joe Kennedy could be the Democrats’ best hope. But is that what he wants?

February 6th, 2018

41:18
Rep. Joe Kennedy III sits down to talk about why Democrats need a big, messy primary in 2020, the reason he thinks Joe Biden would've defeated Trump, …

House Republicans struggle with what to do about Trump

January 30th, 2018

47:18
Congressman Steve Stivers heads up the National Republican Congressional Committee, the House GOP's campaign arm. And that means that, among other things, he's faced with figuring out where—and how—President Trump can …

Evangelicals give Trump a ‘mulligan’ on life pre-presidency, including Stormy Daniels

January 23rd, 2018

48:12
Tony Perkins, the head of the Family Research Council, says that evangelical conservatives are willing to overlook Trump’s past behavior—even his alleged affair with porn actress Stormy Daniels—so long as he delivers …

‘Washington was about to explode’: The Clinton scandal, 20 years later

January 21st, 2018

51:41
An all-star panel discusses how #MeToo changes the way we think about Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky, why the scandals of 1998 would play out …

Perez: GOP must answer for "appalling silence" on Trump

January 16th, 2018

43:55
DNC chairman Tom Perez is the son of immigrants from the Dominican Republic. He shares his personal reaction to President Trump's comment about …

Jordan Klepper: Is what we're living through funny?

January 9th, 2018

34:33
Jordan Klepper has spent the last three months hosting the Alex Jones-style parody “The Opposition” on Comedy Central, working hard to get into the head of all the conspiracy theorists — including President Donald Trump …

John Dean: Trump's inner circle has no idea what’s about to hit them

January 2nd, 2018

47:15
John Dean, the former Nixon White House counsel, has a memo for White House lawyer Ty Cobb and the rest of President Donald Trump’s defenders as they enter 2018: believing the investigation and prosecutions will be over …

Bill de Blasio says he isn’t running for president. So why is he in Iowa?

December 26th, 2017

44:06
New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio takes a break during his trip to Iowa to sit down with Isaac and assure him he isn't running for president. …

Joe Manchin: How Trump is losing red-state Democrats

December 19th, 2017

57:25
Joe Manchin is a rare breed: a West Virginia Democrat and self-proclaimed “radical moderate.” He's one of 10 Senate Democrats up for reelection in …

PREVIEW: Why Sen. Joe Manchin thinks Al Franken shouldn’t resign

December 18th, 2017

2:42
An exclusive preview of our upcoming episode with Sen. Joe Manchin, in which he talks about the sexual misconduct allegations against Al Franken, why he hopes Franken doesn't resign, and what he sees as total hypocrisy …

Petraeus: ‘Life is not full of high-five moments’

December 12th, 2017

1:08:48
The retired general and former CIA director explains why he thinks Trump’s foreign policy is more continuation than change, what he knows about Mike …

Trump’s threat to take down the GOP still stands

December 5th, 2017

50:21
Corey Lewandowski and David Bossie don’t know if Donald Trump will remain a Republican, but they believe Republicans owe him their loyalty. They join Isaac to discuss their new campaign tell-all, Donald Trump, and why …

Capitol Hill braces for a wave of sexual harassment scandals

November 28th, 2017

38:12
Isaac talks with Politico congressional reporters Rachael Bade and Elana Schor about Al Franken, John Conyers, Roy Moore, why Hill staffers fear what …

Garry Kasparov on whether Trump could beat Putin in chess

November 21st, 2017

37:52
Chess? That’s not what Garry Kasparov sees Donald Trump or Vladimir Putin playing—three-dimensional or any other kind. But if they did sit down for a game, the former grandmaster knows who’d win: “Both of them despise …

Perry: The Cabinet won’t stop Trump from launching a nuclear weapon

November 14th, 2017

42:35
Former Secretary of Defense William J. Perry is America’s nuclear conscience — and he’s worried. We talk to him about nukes, North Korea, and the two times he’s stared down the apocalypse.

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What Jed Bartlet and Jack Donaghy would say to Donald Trump — Alec Baldwin & Bradley Whitford

November 10th, 2017

31:25
Alec Baldwin inhabits Donald Trump on ‘Saturday Night Live.’ Bradley Whitford spent years in ‘The West Wing.’ Here’s what their time with fake presidents tells them about the real one.

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Eric Holder is done holding his tongue

November 7th, 2017

38:53
An Election Day special: Heading out on the campaign trail, we talk with former Attorney General Eric Holder, who has taken to the stump himself to …

Nancy Pelosi isn’t going anywhere

November 2nd, 2017

58:19
Nancy Pelosi is hated; she’s a hero. She’s the Democrats’ secret weapon; she’s the Republicans’ favorite target. She’s been around politics her …

Preet Bharara: Trump, indictments and the Godfather

October 31st, 2017

50:26
For years, former U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara was one of the most feared prosecutors in America. Then President Trump asked him to resign. Now, as Robert Mueller’s investigation unleashes its opening torrent of …

Thom Tillis: ‘If they don’t like the process, change the rules'

October 24th, 2017

54:12
North Carolina Senator Thom Tillis discusses his dream of going to Burning Man and how he sees Breitbart and the Huffington Post as the same. The …

Puerto Rico's Jenniffer Gonzalez to Trump: ‘We are American citizens’

October 17th, 2017

41:18
Puerto Rico's delegate in Congress discusses what she made of President Trump’s promise to wipe away the territory’s debt, what she thinks will happen now that the White House has backtracked on it, and the new kind of …

Mark Kelly to lawmakers opposing gun laws: ‘You should quit’

October 10th, 2017

41:10
Captain Mark Kelly sits down to discuss gun control in the wake of the Las Vegas shooting, how Gabby Giffords feels about returning to stand with her …

Rob Reiner tries to find the truth about Trump and Russia

September 26th, 2017

38:26
Actor and activist Rob Reiner sits down with Isaac Dovere in New York to discuss Russia, Trump, cultural fights sweeping and country and celebrities' …

Jeff Merkley: Meet the leader of the vast left-wing conspiracy

September 19th, 2017

46:55
Oregon Senator Jeff Merkley discusses what became of the wind turbine he built in his backyard, how an offhand slight in the math-science center in …

Will Hurd: Everybody needs to stand up

September 11th, 2017

36:00
Texas Congressman Will Hurd has a message for Republicans who don’t like the funding deal President Donald Trump made with Democrats: Get yourself together, or quit complaining. Hurd discusses how President Trump …

Dolores Huerta: I think the '60s are back

September 5th, 2017

26:16
Dolores Huerta, the famed labor leader who marched with Cesar Chavez and coined his rallying cry, is still mad as hell—and she was spitting fire when …

How Detroit Mayor Mike Duggan became unbeatable

August 29th, 2017

41:13
Detroit Mayor Mike Duggan discusses his unexpected write-in victory, turning around the city's urban decline and turning the street lights back on. Plus, the mayor discusses his close relationship with Joe Biden and …

Al Sharpton & Jerry Nadler on hate in America

August 22nd, 2017

1:00:22
Rev. Al Sharpton and Rep. Jerry Nadler, who battled Donald Trump for years in New York, consider the lasting consequences of his Charlottesville comments and their own experiences with racism and anti-Semitism.

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Cecile Richards and the future of choice politics

August 15th, 2017

32:58
Planned Parenthood President Cecile Richards discusses women senators' role in the health care repeal vote, the resilience of volunteers and clinics, …

Alaska Gov. Bill Walker on the future of independents in politics

August 8th, 2017

35:02
Bill Walker sits down with Isaac Dovere to discuss the last time he saw Sarah Palin, standing in the middle of a river at age 12 when an earthquake destroyed his hometown and what his meetings during Energy Week at the …

Obama’s inner circle is urging Deval Patrick to run

August 1st, 2017

43:30
Former Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick sits down with Isaac Dovere at Bain Capital in Boston to discuss his decision to join the investment firm, his tight-knit relationship with President Obama and what's next for …

Maz Jobrani on Trump protest comedy

July 29th, 2017

28:37
Comedian Maz Jobrani reflects back on his own immigrant experience as a child and how that has influenced his perception of the world, especially now …

Arnold Schwarzenegger's not done with politics

July 25th, 2017

46:10
Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger sits down with Isaac Dovere to discuss gerrymandering, the similarities between politics and show business, and why he …

Debating free journalism in Cuba

July 22nd, 2017

33:29
One of the most recognizable journalists from Cuba's state television, Cristina Escobar, sits down with Isaac Dovere to discuss censorship, the impact of President Obama's historic visit in 2016, and Cubans' take on the …

Can Roy Cooper show Democrats how to win again?

July 18th, 2017

39:49
North Carolina Governor Roy Cooper talks high school sports highlights, gerrymandering and building up the Democratic party at the state levels. The …

How Trump Is changing the Washington game

July 14th, 2017

35:55
Playbook co-authors Anna Palmer and Jake Sherman join the show to discuss how they have reworked their lives around an early morning schedule that …

Is Trump a Conservative? Mike Lee says yes

July 11th, 2017

26:45
Here’s where Senator Mike Lee, the junior Republican senator from Utah, has landed: Trump makes sense in the White House, as the head of the Republican Party, and as a leader of the conservative moment because that’s …

Wrestling with the Trump White House

July 7th, 2017

40:05
 Julie Pace, the new Washington bureau chief for the Associated Press, and Peter Baker, the chief White House correspondent for the New York Times …

Gerard Araud: Europeans can't build a future without the Americans

July 3rd, 2017

45:09
French Ambassador Gerard Araud gives Isaac Dovere his read on Trump’s personality and the advice he gave Macron on dealing with him before their first encounter. Plus, the ambassador delves into how diplomacy in …

Mitch Landrieu: The President of the United Mayors of America

June 27th, 2017

34:39
New Orleans Mayor Mitch Landrieu wants to turn the Conference of Mayors into a powerful national platform as cities work around, ignore and resist …

Ben Cardin: America in danger of stumbling into war

June 20th, 2017

35:09
Maryland Senator Ben Cardin details his bizarre meeting with Zimbabwean dictator Robert Mugabe, how the Trump administration's foreign policy …

How Jason Kander won by losing

June 17th, 2017

45:04
Jason Kander, who came shockingly close to ousting Missouri’s Republican Sen. Roy Blunt last November despite Hillary Clinton’s blowout loss in the state—has been a man in demand the last seven months. Isaac Dovere sits …

Terry McAuliffe looks past the Clintons

June 13th, 2017

53:17
The Virginia governor talks skydiving, how he thinks Hillary Clinton needs to step back, taking on Trump, his campaign plans for 2018 and the looming question of whether he'll make his own White House run in 2020.



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Chad Griffin & Paula Vogel

June 9th, 2017

55:48
Human Rights Campaign president Chad Griffin assesses the record of Trump White House--and Ivanka Trump--on gay rights and what the Resistance has to …

Linda McMahon complains of White House 'bottleneck'

June 6th, 2017

38:17
Small Business Administrator Linda McMahon discusses going from bankruptcy to WWE millions, the first time she met Donald Trump, staffing challenges and her mission to introduce more small business owners to the SBA.

Wyclef Jean: I might run for office someday

June 2nd, 2017

27:45
Wyclef Jean’s advice for celebrities who want to get political: Don’t be like Kathy Griffin.Read up, said the musician of Fugees fame, and one-time …

Ben Sasse on Trump and being an adult

May 30th, 2017

1:13:54
Mention President Donald Trump’s name and Nebraska Senator Ben Sasse closes his eyes, rocks back and forth on his heels in almost momentary pinched smile meditation, waiting for it to pass.He never liked Trump. He still …

Problem Solvers insist it's not too late for tax reform

May 26th, 2017

38:40
Rep. Tom Reed and Rep. Josh Gottheimer say that President Trump can get the biggest tax reform package in history done in conjunction with the largest infrastructure package, and that he can get it through with …

Eric Garcetti isn’t running for president (wink, wink)

May 22nd, 2017

57:33
L.A. Mayor Eric Garcetti sits down with Isaac Dovere to discuss his relationship with Donald Trump, what he learned about politics from his father …

Rahm Emanuel: 'America’s reliability is now in question'

May 16th, 2017

39:38
Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel believes everyone in Washington is too focused on the craze around President Trump and unable to see what’s actually going on—and what’s not. Emanuel says that “America’s word and America’s …

Sophia Bush: 'I have a right to take up space'

May 9th, 2017

48:00
Actress and political activist Sophia Bush sits down with Isaac Dovere in New Orleans to discuss fighting for what she believes in (even if that …

Tom Cotton has no problem with Donald Trump

May 5th, 2017

52:22
Arkansas Senator Tom Cotton sits down with Isaac Dovere to discuss his love of Abraham Lincoln, how he cultivated such a friendly relationship with …

Gov. John Kasich on a "post-truth" America

May 2nd, 2017

51:53
Ohio Gov. John Kasich sits down with Isaac Dovere this week to discuss the development of his faith, the difficulty of losing both his parents at a …

‘The Handmaid’s Tale’ crashes up against Trump

April 25th, 2017

1:03:48
In Donald Trump, author Margaret Atwood  and actress Elisabeth Moss see an eerie echo of her novels. Activist Stephanie Schriock is fighting to ensure that they're wrong. 




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Elliott Abrams: Steve Bannon 'not a good influence'

April 11th, 2017

56:06
Former Reagan and Bush diplomat Elliott Abrams sounds off on Steve Bannon, President Trump’s about-face on Syria and the boss he almost had.

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Ed Murray: Meditating in the age of Trump

April 3rd, 2017

55:10
Seattle Mayor Ed Murray joins Off Message to discuss the city's lawsuit against the federal government on the sanctuary cities, how a monk encouraged him come out as a young man and what President Trump doesn't …

Roger Stone on Russian claims: "They have no proof"

March 27th, 2017

55:56
Republican strategist Roger Stone says he’s apologized to Paul Manafort for getting him involved in all the inquiries about possible Russian …

Dave Brat: 'There's primaries coming' off Obamacare repeal

March 20th, 2017

53:50
The Virginia congressman says it shouldn’t take a PhD to see what’s wrong with how his own party is handling the health care situation.  He also …

Adriano Espaillat: Trump has ‘permeated this toxic environment’

March 13th, 2017

34:03
The New York congressman discusses his experience coming to the United States as a nine-year-old boy, his take on fellow New Yorker President Donald …

Michael Chertoff: 'I’d be guessing' on Trump's ability to handle crisis

March 6th, 2017

59:00
Former Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff sits down with Isaac Dovere to discuss the country's most pressing security concerns, how to be prepared for the unexpected, his experiences with 9/11 and Hurricane …

Donna Brazile on DNC hack: 'I was scared'

February 27th, 2017

43:05
The former Democratic National Committee Interim Chair Donna Brazile sits down with Isaac Dovere in the midst of the election in Atlanta. Brazile …

Tom Perez: "Trump is anathema to America"

February 23rd, 2017

48:46
Former Labor Secretary Tom Perez discusses his fight to become the new chair of the Democratic National Party and the many mistakes made in the 2016 presidential election. Perez discusses the upcoming election to lead a …

Jon Karl: Trump White House "incredibly open"

February 13th, 2017

39:45
ABC's Chief White House Correspondent Jon Karl has a front row to the Trump White House. And despite what the president has said about the "unfair media", Karl says this administration has been incredibly accessible and …

Congressmen Marc Veasey and Brendan Boyle: Reaching out to blue collar voters

February 6th, 2017

44:02
The two Democratic congressmen sit down with Isaac Dovere over some beers to discuss why they felt compelled to start the Blue Collar Caucus, what …

Hakeem Jeffries: 'Every racist' voted for Trump

February 3rd, 2017

39:42
POLITICO's Isaac Dovere sits down with New York Congressman Hakeem Jeffries to discuss his experience with detainees at JFK Airport, the similarities between Donald Trump and Richard Nixon, and how Democrats plan on …

John Malcolm: Is Trump a Constitutional conservative?

January 30th, 2017

44:37
Isaac Dovere sits down with Heritage Foundation's John McDonald for an in-depth discussion on how the next Supreme Court justice is chosen, what sets the best candidates apart from the rest and Donald Trump's …

Chuck Todd: What makes Donald Trump laugh?

December 30th, 2016

55:40
Meet the Press host Chuck Todd sits down with Glenn Thrush to discuss his father's influence on his career, why he regrets allowing Donald Trump to call in to the Sunday show and the public's perception of the media.

Keith Ellison's one-man march

December 19th, 2016

58:31
Minnesota congressman Keith Ellison sits down with Glenn Thrush to discuss growing up in Detroit, fighting Muslim stereotypes, what led him to Louis Farrakhan as a young man and why he's best suited for the top DNC …

Tim Ryan: Lessons in losing

December 16th, 2016

53:36
Ohio congressman Tim Ryan sits down with Glenn Thrush to discuss how mindfulness influences his everyday life, why losing to Nancy Pelosi for House …

David Brock: Clinton campaign allowed her image "to be destroyed"

December 12th, 2016

1:12:08
Media Matters founder and long-time Clinton friend David Brock sits down with Glenn Thrush for a 2016 post-mortem. Brock criticizes the Clinton campaign's press strategy, lays out tactics for Democrats going forward and …

Grover Norquist: The anti-tax man's take on Trump

December 5th, 2016

1:01:15
Americans for Tax Reform founder Grover Norquist sits down with Glenn Thrush to discuss how anti-communism books inspired his political career at 10 …

Maggie Haberman: How New York tabloids shaped Trump

November 27th, 2016

1:17:01
New York Times reporter and friend Maggie Haberman sits down with Glenn Thrush to discuss how they began their career together in New York City Hall …

Best of Off Message

November 8th, 2016

40:05
In honor of Election Day, Glenn Thrush takes a look back at his favorite moments on the show - interviews that framed the narrative, made news, gave insight into the candidates' mindsets or, at least, gave us a laugh.

Mark Stephenson and John Hagner on early voting

October 31st, 2016

58:16
Data gurus Mark Stephenson and John Hagner sit down with Glenn Thrush to discuss early voting and absentee ballots - what the trends say about campaign strategies and the electorate. 

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Mark Kelly: Everyone deserves to be heard on guns

October 24th, 2016

47:46
Astronaut Mark Kelly sits down with Glenn Thrush to discuss his lifelong experience with guns, from having two parents in law enforcement to being …

Kris Kobach: Trump’s immigration whisperer

October 17th, 2016

1:07:30
Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach sits down with Glenn Thrush in Topeka, Kansas, to discuss the challenges of being a conservative at Harvard, what has driven Kobach to make immigration reform his life's work, his …

Michael Che, Colin Jost: What SNL's weekend anchors really think of 2016

October 3rd, 2016

1:03:59
Saturday Night Live's Colin Jost and Michael Che sit down with Glenn Thrush in 30 Rock for an unvarnished conversation about hating on Donald Trump, …

Jen Palmieri: 2016 is 'a harrowing experience'

September 26th, 2016

56:38
Hillary Clinton’s communications director Jen Palmieri sits down with Glenn Thrush in the Brooklyn headquarters to talk debate prep and which Donald Trump the campaign is expecting on the stage Monday night. Palmieri …

Jill Stein: Trump may have 'memory problem'

September 19th, 2016

54:59
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Ann Coulter: The Doyenne of the Deplorables

September 12th, 2016

1:12:46
Author and political commentator Ann Coulter delves into what in her genetic makeup allows her to endure and even delight in being called unsavory …

Neera Tanden: Hillary Clinton's anger translator

August 29th, 2016

1:04:00
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Tony Blair: Centrism may be dead

August 23rd, 2016

48:07
Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair sits down with Glenn Thrush in London to discuss the relationship between American and British politics, his …

John Dickerson: Don't blame media for Donald Trump's rise

August 15th, 2016

1:05:31
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Chris Murphy: Newtown gave me a mission

August 8th, 2016

40:44
Senator Chris Murphy made a name for himself when he held a 15 hour filibuster calling for gun control reform. The freshman senator sits down with …

Jeff Weaver on the Bernie Sanders surrender

August 1st, 2016

49:13
Bernie Sanders campaign manager Jeff Weaver sits down with Glenn Thrush in Philadelphia to discuss growing up in Vermont, his love of comic-books, …

Robby Mook on how to sell Hillary

July 28th, 2016

46:19
Hillary Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook sits down with Glenn Thrush in Philadelphia to discuss how they came together with the Sanders camp, why voters may not trust Clinton until after she's elected and the …

Nancy Pelosi's advice to Hillary Clinton: 'Be yourself'

July 26th, 2016

34:14
Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi sits down with Glenn Thrush in Philadelphia's Walls Fargo Center to share her perspective on being the country's …

Mike DuHaime: Christie 'wasn't expecting' veep nod

July 24th, 2016

27:05
Longtime Chris Christie adviser Mike DuHaime sits down with Glenn Thrush in Cleveland to discuss Christie's complicated relationship with Donald Trump, how the Bridgegate scandal affected his White House bid and Trump's …

Bill Kristol to Democrats: Don't underestimate Trump

July 23rd, 2016

56:47
Weekly Standard founder Bill Kristol sits down with Glenn Thrush in Cleveland to discuss his take on Donald Trump's candidacy and why he can't get on …

Chuck D takes on Rudy G

July 20th, 2016

39:29
Public Enemy frontman Chuck D sits down with Glenn Thrush in Cleveland to discuss the Black Lives Matter movement, his experience with race relations growing up in New York City and his take on the 2016 race.

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Ted Cruz talks: He's not ready to endorse ... yet

July 18th, 2016

58:57
Texas senator and former 2016 hopeful Ted Cruz sits down with Glenn Thrush to discuss Governor Mike Pence joining the Trump ticket, what the senator …

Playbook passes the torch

July 11th, 2016

43:00
The new Playbook authors Anna Palmer and Jake Sherman sit down with Glenn Thrush to discuss how they got their start in Washington, what they've learned along the way and how they plan to fill the shoes of Mike Allen.

Nate Silver: Primary whiff made me humbler, smarter

July 5th, 2016

1:10:26
Statistician and fivethirtyeight.com founder Nate Silver sits down with Glenn Thrush to discuss his general election predictions, how his attitude towards journalism has changed since 2008, what he's learned from …

Sheriff Joe Arpaio, Trump’s political godfather

June 20th, 2016

1:17:33
Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio sits down with Glenn Thrush on his and Donald Trump's birthday. The sheriff looks back on his 84 years and opens …

Jeff Roe: Allergy to analytics could be fatal for Trump

June 14th, 2016

1:22:05
Ted Cruz strategist Jeff Roe and Glenn Thrush get in the weeds about campaign operations and strategy. Roe also reflects back on what went wrong on the Cruz campaign and discusses his love for baseball.

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Joe Scarborough dishes on Donald Trump, Jeff Zucker

June 8th, 2016

54:03
'Morning Joe' host Joe Scarborough sits down with Glenn Thrush to talk music, what fuels Donald Trump and the balancing act of being a good host and asking tough questions.

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Gary Johnson on Zen and the art of Trump trolling

June 3rd, 2016

55:10
Libertarian presidential candidate Gary Johnson sits down with Glenn Thrush to talk Donald Trump's immigration policy, the benefits of marijuana, …

Jeff Sessions to GOP: Adapt to Trump or die

May 31st, 2016

56:00
Alabama Senator Jeff Sessions sits down with Glenn Thrush to discuss his idyllic childhood just miles away from civil rights battlegrounds, why Republican lawmakers need to accept the will of the people and support …

Paul Ryan: Trump could win, but I’m not ‘betting’ on it

May 23rd, 2016

36:46
House Speaker Paul Ryan sits down with Glenn Thrush to discuss the importance of party unity, how he's adjusting to his new leadership role and the …

Mark Salter on Trump: 'I think he could come apart'

May 9th, 2016

52:40
Former top John McCain aide and one of the most prominent Republicans to publicly back Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump – tells Glenn Thrush that he …

Larry Wilmore is not joking around

April 29th, 2016

46:47
Comedian and 2016 White House Correspondents' Dinner host Larry Wilmore sits down with Glenn Thrush to discuss what attracts people to Donald Trump and why he thinks voters might be suffering from Clinton fatigue. The …

Roger Stone on Trump campaign: 'You don't manage Donald'

April 25th, 2016

1:06:07
Republican political adviser Roger Stone sits down with Glenn Thrush to discuss his advice to Donald Trump's campaign and why the candidate didn't …

Kirsten Gillibrand's tearful plea to Bernie: Give up your guns

April 18th, 2016

55:01
Senator Kirsten Gillibrand of New York, a passionate Clinton backer and feminist, broke down during an emotional sit-down when asked her about her own conversion from a upstate House member with a 100 percent NRA rating …

Tim Miller: ‘Hillary would beat him from jail’

April 11th, 2016

53:57
Republican strategist Tim Miller tells Glenn Thrush why he thinks Donald Trump would be beat soundly by Hillary Clinton. The two explore the future …

Hillary Clinton has had enough of Bernie Sanders

April 6th, 2016

58:22
Hillary Clinton sits down with Glenn Thrush following a campaign event in Syracuse, New York. The former secretary of state compares Donald Trump to …

Alan Gross on Bernie Sanders, 'failure' of socialism in Cuba

March 30th, 2016

47:50
Former Cuban prisoner Alan Gross sits down with Glenn Thrush to recount how he spent his 1,481 days locked up, who visited him (plus what snacks they brought) and why socialism has failed Cuba. Gross also explains why …

Gen. Michael Hayden: Hillary Clinton second choice on national security

March 28th, 2016

54:32
Former CIA Director Michael Hayden sits down with Glenn Thrush to discuss his career at the NSA and CIA, who he trusts in the 2016 race on national security and his criticisms of certain journalists he's encountered …

Jill Abramson on NYT email stories: 'Why is that a big deal?'

March 21st, 2016

1:04:00
Jill Abramson, the first woman editor of the New York Times, tells Glenn Thrush that Hillary Clinton gets "more scrutiny" than men because she's …

Joel Benenson: No path for Donald Trump in November

March 14th, 2016

50:37
Pollster Joel Benenson tells Glenn Thrush that Donald Trump has no path to victory in November and predicts that states like Arizona and North …

Sanders strategist Tad Devine: Losing Nevada was a game-changer

March 7th, 2016

48:28
Bernie Sanders' senior advisor Tad Devine sits down with Glenn Thrush to discuss how the loss in Nevada forced the campaign to restrategize, what …

Former top Ted Cruz adviser: Conservatives won't stop making case against Trump

February 29th, 2016

41:26
Rick Tyler sits down with Glenn Thrush to discuss his sudden dismal from the Cruz campaign, why conservatives will keep pushing back against Trump and the future of the Republican party.

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David Plouffe: Hillary Clinton has 98% chance of beating Bernie Sanders

February 29th, 2016

56:54
Former Obama political strategist and UBER SVP David Plouffe sits down with Glenn Thrush to discuss Hillary Clinton's winning odds, why she's a …

Ben Carson: Obama was ‘raised white’

February 22nd, 2016

34:29
Dr. Ben Carson sits down with Glenn Thrush to discuss how his background has informed his presidential campaign, his feelings about President Obama …

Rev. Al Sharpton: Donald Trump is the white Don King

February 21st, 2016

37:41
Rev. Al Sharpton talks with Glenn Thrush about what drives Donald Trump in today’s episode of the Off Message podcast. Sharpton also discusses Bernie Sanders’ Brooklyn roots and his record on race, and what it’ll take …

'The Big Short' director on supporting Bernie Sanders and avoiding politics with his parents

February 14th, 2016

24:18
'The Big Short' director Adam McKay sits down with Glenn Thrush to discuss how the financial crisis is shaping the 2016 presidential race — and to trace the candidacies of Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders back to what …

Jeb goes after Marco: 'He's never been challenged in his life'

February 7th, 2016

35:50
Governor Jeb Bush and Glenn Thrush discuss the 2016 race, standing up to Donald Trump, George W. Bush's presidency and more while the Jeb! campaign bus makes its way from Manchester to Concord.

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Martin O'Malley insists he won't play Iowa kingmaker, tells supporters "hold strong"

February 1st, 2016

35:55
Governor Martin O'Malley sits down with POLITICO's Glenn Thrush in Johnston, Iowa, to discuss what motivates him to keep campaigning despite low poll …

Glenn Thrush interviews President Obama on Iowa, Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, and the 2016 race

January 24th, 2016

39:20
In an Oval Office interview for POLITICO's Off Message podcast, the president offers his most expansive comments yet on the race to succeed him in the White House.

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Hugh Hewitt gives Donald Trump 25 percent chance of winning nomination

September 21st, 2015

48:00
Radio talk show host Hugh Hewitt sits down with Glenn Thrush to talk about the 2016 race, how he got his start in politics and why Donald Trump is …

George Pataki: The underdog's take

September 11th, 2015

26:53
POLITICO's Chief Political Correspondent Glenn Thrush sits down with Republican 2016 candidate George Pataki at the Mayflower Hotel to discuss the …

Axe on Hillary: I would have nixed paid speeches, book tour

September 2nd, 2015

27:04
Glenn Thrush with David Axelrod, author of 'Believer,' on President Barack Obama's evolution on same-sex marriage, Valerie Jarrett's role in the …

Nicolle Wallace's advice to Carly Fiorina: Hands off Hillary

September 2nd, 2015

34:44
POLITICO's Chief Political Correspondent Glenn Thrush sits down with 'Madam President' author and political commentator Nicolle Wallace this week. …

Paul Ryan's advice to Hillary: Figure out who you are

April 20th, 2015

36:40
POLITICO's Chief Political Correspondent Glenn Thrush sits down Rep. Paul Ryan to discuss growing up in Wisconsin, his love of Metallica and being …

50 Shades of Barney Frank

April 20th, 2015

41:53
POLITICO's chief political correspondent Glenn Thrush sits down with Congressman Barney Frank to discuss his early life in Bayonne, New Jersey, the …
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