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Park Leaders Show

259 EpisodesProduced by Jody MaberryWebsite

Park Leaders connects the wisdom of Park Managers, leaders in the park system, and thought leaders of the business world with up and coming park leaders. This is the show for Park Rangers, Park Managers, and leaders who want to have an impact. Join host Jody Maberry as he talks to park leaders from … read more

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A Look at Politics in Parks

June 28th, 2022

44:35

On this episode of the Park Leaders Show, guests Jonathan and Destry Jarvis, join the show to discuss their book, National Parks Forever: Fifty Years of Fighting and a Case for Independence.

Fusing experience with …

Should Parks be Self-Sufficient

June 21st, 2022

26:53

On this episode of the Park Leaders Show, guest co-host, Phil Gaines, returns to discuss why parks should be financially sufficient. 

While a complex …

Why Rangers Wear the Campaign Hat

June 14th, 2022

21:05

On this episode of the Park Leaders Show, guest co-host, Phil Gaines, returns to discuss why rangers should commit to their campaign hat.

While dress …

State Park Leadership School

June 7th, 2022

23:22

On this episode of the Park Leaders Show, guest co-host, Phil Gaines, returns to discuss his final experience at the State Park Leadership School. 

Remembering Why We Do the Job

May 31st, 2022

28:42

On this episode of the Park Leaders Show, Park Supervisor, Rowdy Perry, joins the show to discuss his love and appreciation for state parks. 

As a former ranger turned supervisor for the Michigan Department of Nature …

Intended Consequences in Conversation

May 24th, 2022

43:40
On this episode of the Park Leaders Show, Ben Novak, Lead Scientist at Revive & Restore, rejoins the show to share recent conservation success stories.

While intended consequences may seem like a vague term, in the …

How to Build a Winning Team

May 17th, 2022

28:06
On this episode of the Park Leaders Show, guest co-host, Host of the “Build a Winning Team” podcast, and former COO of Story Brand, joins the show to discuss his story and definition of success.

A man of many hats, Tim …

Using Fees to Sustain Visitor Experiences

May 10th, 2022

21:42

On this episode of the Park Leaders Show, guest co-host, Phil Gaines, returns to discuss new economic trends within park management.

In the wake of the pandemic, park visitors have increased around the country. Yet, …

Building a Better Park Culture

April 5th, 2022

28:03

On this episode of the Park Leaders Show, special guest, Michelle Baker, former Director of Disney Institute, and business leader at Disney Cruise …

What Should You Call Park Visitors

March 29th, 2022

13:16

On this episode of the Park Leaders Show, guest co-host, Phil Gaines, returns to discuss the proper title for park visitors.

As Phil explains, while …

What are People in Parks Talking About?

March 22nd, 2022

26:28

On this episode of the Park Leaders Show, guest co-host, Phil Gaines, returns to discuss popular themes and topics from today’s tourists.

Having …

What to Look for When You Visit a Park

February 16th, 2022

16:00

On this episode of the Park Leaders Show, guest co-host, Phil Gaines, returns on-site at Zion National Park to discuss the complexities of maintaining large-scale state parks.

From capacity management to resource …

Focus on Professional Growth

November 30th, 2021

31:48

On this episode of the Park Leaders Show, guest co-host, Phil Gaines, returns to discuss ways leaders can focus on professional growth during this pandemic era.

While personal growth centers on passion, experience, and …

The Story Behind the Ranger First Philosophy

November 23rd, 2021

27:54

On this episode of the Park Leaders Show, guest Scott Durham, former superintendent of West Virginia State Parks, joins the show to discuss the origin of the “Ranger First” mantra.

As Durham explains, with park ranger …

Focus on Personal Growth

October 12th, 2021

31:53

Phil Gaines returns to discuss ways park leaders can focus on personal growth during this pandemic era.

While COVID-19 has altered many park programs, on a personal level, the effects have varied among rangers. Even as …

A Passion for Parks

October 5th, 2021

21:43

On this episode of the Parks Leaders Show, the Ingles family joins in to discuss their passion for state parks.

As road warriors, the Ingles have a fresh perspective on park trends and patterns. With the recent increase …

Refocus on Your Park and Your Career

September 28th, 2021

21:33

On this episode of the Park Leaders Show, guest co-host, Phil Gaines, returns to discuss ways park leaders can recalibrate their careers amidst the pandemic.

In this Covid-19 era, customer service has suffered across …

Using Pixar Style Storytelling for Interpretation

August 24th, 2021

26:40

Matthew Luhn joins the show to discuss using Pixar-style storytelling for interpretation.

As discussed in previous interviews, interpreters are some of the best storytellers on the planet. Especially when integrating …

Adapting Interpretation for Modern Challenges

August 10th, 2021

31:00

On this episode of the Park Leaders Show, guest co-host, Phil Gaines, returns to discuss the relationship between interpretation and cultural …

Visiting Every Colorado State Park

August 3rd, 2021

32:06

Kyle Wagner, former Travel Editor for the Denver Post, joins the show to discuss her state and national park endeavors.

A current freelance editor and writer, Kyle explains her heart for exploration and goal to visit …

Creating Greater Access in Parks

July 27th, 2021

36:27

On this episode of the Park Leaders Show, guests, James Ledgerwood, superintendent of Chimney Rock State Park, Mary Yeager Gale, Chairman of the Board for Chimney Rock Management, and Emily Blackwell, Project Manager at …

Creating Digital Access to Parks

July 20th, 2021

27:22

On this episode of the Park Leaders Show, guest Brad Krey returns to discuss interpretative services and digital access to parks.

As education …

Welcoming New Park Visitors

June 29th, 2021

23:30

On this episode of the Park Leaders Show, guest co-host, Phil Gaines, returns to discuss park retention with COVID-19 impacts beginning to fade.

After 15 months of social distancing, parks, like most enterprises, are …

Civil Discourse in Parks

June 22nd, 2021

38:32

On this episode of the Park Leaders Show, Alan Spears, Senior Director of Cultural Resources for the National Parks Conservation Association, joins …

Making Your Park Dark Sky Friendly

June 15th, 2021

24:34

On this episode of the Park Leaders Show, Jackson Lake State Senior Park Director Amy Brandenburg joins the show to discuss becoming dark-sky certified.

Having helped her Morgan County state park achieve dark-sky …

Working with Families as Camp Hosts

June 8th, 2021

31:20

On this special episode of the Park Leaders Show, the Logsdon family joins the show to discuss iguanas and working with families as camp hosts.

As a family on the go, the Logsdon live an abnormal life; however, while …

For the Love of Frogs

June 1st, 2021

30:23

On this episode of the Park Leaders Show, biologist, Gina Zwicky, joins the show to discuss her passion for frogs.

Charming, charismatic, and …

Interpreters are the Conscience of Parks

May 25th, 2021

32:57

On this episode of the Park Leaders Show, guest co-host Phil Gaines, and Milward Simpson, Executor Director for the National Association of Interpretation, returns to discuss interpreters at parks.

While most …

Working with Associations

May 18th, 2021

29:33

Andrea Ketchmark, executive director of the North Country Trail Association, joins the show to discuss chapter-based organizations and the working relationship between agencies and associations.

As the pioneer of a …

Conservationists Who Don't Wear the Uniform

May 11th, 2021

29:38

Phil Gaines, returns to discuss ways park rangers can help outside conservationists.

While rules and procedures are necessary for national park …

Making Long-Term Resource Decisions

May 4th, 2021

32:45

On this episode of the Park Leaders Show, new director of Indiana State Parks, Terry Coleman, joins the show to discuss his story and the importance …

The Truth About Multi Tasking in Park Management

April 27th, 2021

24:40

On this episode of the Park Leaders Show, guest cohost, Phil Gaines, returns to discuss his philosophy on multi-tasking.

While most assume …

The Power of Interpretation

April 20th, 2021

31:02

Milward Simpson, Executor Director for the National Association of Interpretation and former park ranger, joins the show to discuss the power of …

Save the Yellowstone Grizzly

April 13th, 2021

43:21

On this episode of the Park Leaders Show, Doug Peacock joins the show to discuss his latest project, Save The Yellowstone Grizzly.

A long-time naturalist, Doug founded STYG in 2016 to advocate safety and recovery of …

Devoting a Career to One Park

April 6th, 2021

28:42

On this episode of the Park Leaders Show, David Van Cleve, joins the show to discuss locational stability in a park ranger career.

As David shares in his book, ‘A Greatness of Spirit: Tales of Extraordinary Rangers at …

Working with Friends Groups

March 30th, 2021

29:32

On this episode of the Park Leaders Show, Phil Francis joins Jody and Phil Gaines to discuss working with support groups.

A retired superintendent of the Blue Ridge Parkway, Francis explains how friends groups can help …

Saving the Black-Footed Ferret

March 23rd, 2021

1:14:21

Ben Novak, the lead scientist of the biotechnology nonprofit Revive & Restore, joins the show to discuss his historic breakthrough.

A …

The Incredible 11-Year-Old Who Walked 160 Miles to Save Grizzly Bears

March 16th, 2021

32:36

In this episode of the Park Leaders Show, Matt Holloway, a former ranger at Glacier National park, and his 11-year-old daughter, Harper, joins the …

Park Visitation and User Groups

March 9th, 2021

37:22

Phil Gaines, retired Director of South Carolina State Parks, returns to discuss how COVID-19 is impacting park visitation and user groups.

While the …

Reviewing Annual Performance Reviews

March 2nd, 2021

24:43

Phil Gaines, the semi-regular guest host, returns to discuss annual performance reviews.

While some employers view annual reviews as obligations, the …

Grizzly Bear Conservation

February 23rd, 2021

56:54

Barrie Gilbert, a bear biologist and author of ‘One of Us: A Biologist’s Walk Among Bears’, joins the show to discuss his research and resources.   

Use Winter to Prepare Your Park for Summer

February 16th, 2021

18:22

In this episode of the Park Leaders Show, Phil Gaines, retired Director of South Carolina State Parks, returns to discuss how parks can maximize …

How to Discover the Culture at Your Park

February 9th, 2021

28:26

Phil Gaines, retired Director of South Carolina State Parks, returns to discuss strong park culture. 

While some say culture is how you do things, …

Passing Stories to the Next Generation

January 26th, 2021

52:02

Rick Bass, an acclaimed author, and native of Yak Valley discuss challenges affecting national parks and the importance of sharing experiences.

From …

Should You Be a Well Rounded Ranger?

December 29th, 2020

29:23

Phil Gaines, retired Director of South Carolina State Parks, returns to discuss what it means to be a well-rounded ranger. 

As Phil explains, the …

Discussing Funny Park Visitor Reviews

November 24th, 2020

27:27

In this episode of the Park Leaders Show, Phil Gaines, retired Director of South Carolina State Parks, returns to discuss the funnier side of visitor …

Do Interpretive Services Provide a Return

November 17th, 2020

29:47

Today on the ‘Park Leaders Show’, Phil Gaines, retired Director of South Carolina State Parks, returns to discuss the value of interpretive services.

Understanding Park Priorities

November 10th, 2020

57:49
On today’s episode of the ‘Park Leaders Show’, Cam Sholly, Superintendent of Yellowstone National Park, joins the show to discuss prioritizing park …

Making Parks More Inclusive

November 3rd, 2020

30:23

Today Reggie Williams, ex-NFL linebacker, former Disney executive, and social reformer, returns to discuss how inclusion should look in state parks.

Experience Your Park as a Visitor

October 13th, 2020

17:56

Today, on the ‘Park Leaders Show’, Phil Gaines returns to discuss new takes on the park visitor experience.

 

Per recent travels, Phil unpacks some lessons learned having toured local parks as a visitor. One principle …

Interviewing to be a Park Ranger Part 1

October 6th, 2020

39:26

Phil Gains is back with me and today’s episode is the first in a series on interviewing to be a park ranger. This topic was suggested five years ago by Cassidy, a new ranger, and it is a loaded topic. We are unpacking …

A Park Ranger's Role in Customer Service

September 29th, 2020

22:50

Today guest favorite, Phil Gaines, returns to discuss the park ranger’s role in customer service.

When a tourist visits a national park, seeing a …

Rediscovering Parks During Tough Times

September 15th, 2020

19:52

Dan Bortner, the recently promoted Director of Indiana Department of Natural Resources, joins me today.

 

With 15 years as a State Parks Director, Dan has transitioned into overseeing not only all of Indiana’s State …

Creating Better Visitor Experiences

September 1st, 2020

24:49

Phil Gains, my semi-regular co-host, is with me once again; and today, we are tackling a listener’s question.

 

Special thanks to Sean Bonage for …

A Look at the Park Law Enforcement Association

August 4th, 2020

32:07

Today, Mark Caughlin, district manager for Horsetooth Reservoir and park ranger for the Larimer Country Resources department, joins us to discuss his …

How to Have an Impact

July 21st, 2020

35:03

On this special episode of the Park Leaders Show, Phil Gaines returns to discuss how the podcast has evolved the past six years.

After debuting in …

Motivation is Temporary

June 30th, 2020

24:55

In this episode of the Park Leaders Show, Phil Gaines joins me again as my semi-regular guest host. Today, we are diving deep on employee motivation …

Developing an Interpretive Talk

June 23rd, 2020

33:16

On today’s episode of the Park Leaders Show, we have an old friend joining us. John Griffith has guested on six episodes over the past six years and …

Exploring Online Interpretation

June 16th, 2020

21:57

Marnin Robbins, Interpretive Program Manager for the North Coast Redwoods District and California State Parks, discusses his story and the value of interpretation.

As Marnin describes, interpretation is a mixture of …

The Role of Law Enforcement in Parks

June 2nd, 2020

30:48

Our semi-regular guest host, Phil Gains, is back with us to discuss a somewhat controversial topic in park leadership: park rangers & law …

Leading During a Crisis

May 26th, 2020

33:07

In today’s episode of the Park Leader’s Show, Phil Gains is with us again and is introducing us to Donald Forgione, a longtime friend and former Director of Florida State Parks.

As a leader, we must encounter a crisis …

How Will the Corona Virus Change Parks

May 19th, 2020

29:52

Phil Gaines returns to discuss how COVID-19 is affecting state parks and what to expect when they reopen.

As Gaines explains, it’s possible to stay relevant in global crises like the coronavirus. Despite the social …

You Don't Need all the Answers to be a Leader

May 12th, 2020

29:25

Our semi-regular guest host, Phil Gains, retired Director of South Carolina State Parks joins us.

We are in a historical and unprecedented time. With …

Staying Relevant in a Changing World

May 5th, 2020

24:05

Phil Gaines returns on-site at Lake Tahoe to discuss how to stay relevant in an ever-changing world.

Speaking from a local perspective, Phil talks about the importance of taking care of watersheds, providing outdoor …

Exploring Ranger First

April 28th, 2020

16:44

Donald Forgione, Director of Florida State Parks, discusses his background and what it means to be “Ranger First”.

After starting his career as a Park Ranger with Florida State Parks, Forgione transitioned to Director, …

How to Handle a Crisis

March 24th, 2020

23:52

On this special episode of the Park Leader Show, Dan Cockerell, and former VP of the Magic Kingdom at Walt Disney World, and Lee Cockerell, retired Executive Vice President of Walt Disney World,  talk about how to …

Innovating Communication in Your Organization

March 17th, 2020

30:07

Jim Bryson, Deputy Commissioner of Parks and Conservation of Tennessee State Parks, discusses the benefit of leaning on your team and the importance of innovation in how you handle communication across your organization.

Minute in Nature

March 10th, 2020

15:31

Today’s social media-driven culture is saturated with negativity, politics and sales pitches. From Glacier National Park, Jeff Noel and Jody Maberry …

Taking Care of Your Family as a Park Ranger

December 31st, 2019

32:53

Phil Gaines returns to discuss family issues within park leadership.

For many park leaders with families, the relocations associated with the job can be taxing. In some cases, the move can be beneficial for the ranger, …

The Business Side of Parks

December 24th, 2019

32:24

Dan Bortner, Director of Indiana State Parks, discusses the “business” side of parks and the importance of fostering a healthy paradigm within your team.

In the parks business, you must understand that your business is …

The Importance of Trust in Park Management

December 17th, 2019

36:55

Grady Spann, Director of Arkansas State Parks, discusses the importance of trust in all aspects of park management and leadership.

 

After growing up in Brazil, receiving his degree, and serving in the army, Grady …

The Medication of the Outdoors

December 10th, 2019

29:33

Ryan Jenkins, Park Manager at Henry Horton State Park, discusses his upbringing, his love for nature, and current projects.

Raised in a National …

Building Parks with People

December 3rd, 2019

22:38

Sean Woods, Superintendent of California State Parks, discusses his background and current position on this episode.

Having taken a non-traditional …

The Difference Between Visitors and Fans

November 26th, 2019

20:26

While visitors come to parks to use facilities, fans come to connect with the people behind them. As Jody explains, not only do fans attend parks more frequently, but see the park experience as an extension of …

Wildlife Protection and Wolf Poaching

November 19th, 2019

22:15

Adam Turner, Area Manager for the Anti-Poaching Unit in Sweden, discusses efforts in wildlife protection and local law enforcement partnership.

Among …

Creating A National Parks System in China

November 12th, 2019

47:17

Jon Jarvis, Executive Director of the Institute for Parks, People and Biodiversity at the University of California Berkeley, returns to discuss park projects in China.

After leading a summer team to evaluate China’s …

The Next Generation of Park Rangers

November 5th, 2019

13:29

In this episode, Jody Maberry discusses the next wave of park rangers.

While past and present rangers contrast in several areas, future rangers may not be as different as we think. The next generation of park leaders …

The Purpose of Park Rangers

October 29th, 2019

15:48

In this episode, we’re talking about the 3 P’s that define park leadership and service: people, places, and the past.

The first ‘P’, people, captures the fundamental core of why park rangers exist. Without people, the …

The Idea of Ranger First

October 22nd, 2019

19:15

Phil Gaines returns to discuss what it means to be "ranger first".

During the past 25 years, the role of a park ranger has changed dramatically. …

Takeaways From The 2019 National Association of State Park Directors Conference

October 1st, 2019

23:12

Phil Gaines returns to recap the 2019 National Association of State Park Directors Conference.

Having attended with Jody, Phil takes inventory of several topics ranging from networking and frontline employees to law …

Are National Parks Staying Relevant?

August 6th, 2019

23:36

Phil Gaines returns to discuss the challenge of national parks staying relevant.

While there are many ways for parks to remain meaningful, according …

Environmental Challenges in National Parks

July 30th, 2019

19:55

In this episode of the Park Leaders Show, Phil Gaines returns to discuss some of the environmental challenges national parks are facing.

While climate change is a significant factor, for most park rangers and directors, …

The Primary Role of A Leader

May 21st, 2019

18:05

Phil Gaines returns to break down the role of a leader.

While the challenges of leadership are many, arguably none are more taxing than motivation. …

The Role of Influence in Leadership

May 14th, 2019

21:37

Phil Gaines returns to the show to talk about the role of influence in leadership.

 

As leaders, it's important to be mindful of voice and presence. …

Accessibility in Parks

May 7th, 2019

24:20

In this edition of the Park Leaders Show, Topher Downham. Outreach Coordinator at City of Boulder Open Space and Mountain Parks, discusses his …

Pioneering the Frontlines

April 30th, 2019

24:01

Phil Gaines returns to discuss how leaders can stay connected to their frontline customers and employees.

When it comes to a successful enterprise, …

Staying Relevant on the Job

April 23rd, 2019

24:31

In this edition of the Park Leaders Show, Phil Gaines returns to discuss the importance of staying relevant on the job.

For many employers, relevant can seem like a relative term. What’s relevant for one job description …

59 Shades of Color: A Celebration of Parks in Print

April 16th, 2019

24:06

In this edition of the Park Leaders Show, JP Boneyard, Creative Director of The Fifty-Nine Parks Print Series and producer of the National Poster Retrospecticus, discusses how he got into curating, hosting events, and …

Saving Waste: A Conversation on Conservation

April 9th, 2019

30:11

In this edition of the Park Leaders Show, Jon Jarvis, Executive Director of the Institute for Parks, People and Biodiversity at the University of California Berkeley, returns to discuss his new book on conservation as …

The Leader/Manager Dichotomy

March 12th, 2019

18:56

In this edition of the Park Leaders Show, Phil Gaines returns to discuss the dichotomy between leadership and management.

When understanding the difference between leadership and management, it’s important to note how …

The Value of Mentorship

March 5th, 2019

42:01

In this special edition of the Park Leaders Show, Brennan McAuley and retired Director of the National Park Service, Jonathan Jarvis, discuss the …

How to Persevere During Uncomfortable Conditions

February 12th, 2019

25:18

Phil Gaines returns to the Park Leaders Show to discuss how to persevere during uncomfortable working conditions.

For most of us, troubleshooting …

Getting Your First Job with The National Park Service

February 5th, 2019

20:45

In this episode, Brennan McAuley returns to the Park Leaders Show to discuss his national park career and experiences as a NPS trainee.

Having …

Improving Conservation Ethics

January 29th, 2019

24:38

In this episode, Phil Gaines shares ideas on how leaders can improve the ethics of their conservation.

For park leaders, protecting parks is a tedious and challenging issue. While staff efforts are important, these …

How Leaders Can Improve Their Communication

January 15th, 2019

22:07

In this episode, Phil Gaines and Dan Cockerell, share ideas on how leaders can improve their communications.

For Gaines in the park world, the two …

The Character of Ethics

January 8th, 2019

20:29

In this episode, South Carolina’s former State Parks Director, Phil Gaines, shares some post-retirement wisdom on marketplace ethics.

Having served …

Following Wildland Firefighters

January 1st, 2019

26:04

On this episode, director Alex Jablonski reflects on his documentary, ‘Wildland’, which follows a single wildland firefighting crew over the course …

Act Local for a Global Impact

December 18th, 2018

24:59

In this episode, Christina Zerfas discusses her project, "Cans for Kili”, and her mission to impact the environment on local and global scales. …

Park Based Learning and It's Place in the Classroom

November 20th, 2018

25:02

On this episode of the Park Leaders Show, James Fester, an educator, part-time volunteer, and Google-certified innovator, discusses park-based …

The Relationship between Health and Parks

November 6th, 2018

23:19

What are people looking for in the outdoors? Public spaces are becoming more culturally diverse and the parks services, resources, facilities, etc …

Leadership is Not Black and White

October 30th, 2018

20:29

Leadership is not black and white.

Once you have a leadership position, most of the decisions and situations you face will not be clear-cut or …

Building Leaders Through Empowerment

October 23rd, 2018

26:56

This episode is the start of something special. Phil Gaines, retired Director of South Carolina State Parks, is going to be a semi-regular guest …

Ask a Ranger

October 16th, 2018

30:49

When someone visits a park and they are curious, what is the first thing they want to do? Ask a ranger. 

Park Rangers are icons of parks and one of the reasons people enjoy talking with Rangers is because they can …

Exploring Maritime Archeology in Parks

October 2nd, 2018

19:41

On this episode of the Park Leaders Show, we explore maritime archeology with Denise Jaffke

Denise as an Archeologist with California State Parks who …

Building a Leadership Network

September 11th, 2018

23:41

To build a solid career, you need to build a solid network of peers, associates, and friends. A strong leader has a strong network.

Dylan …

The Person is More Important Than the Position

September 4th, 2018

25:39

In parks, we have spread the myth of a lone heroic leader at the top.

We give special attention and privilege to someone with a leadership title.

If it takes a hero to lead people, it moves leadership out of the reach …

Leading by Example

August 21st, 2018

28:52

After 37 years with South Carolina State Parks, Phil Gaines retired as Director. As Phil did during his entire career, he used his last day to lead …

Podcasts with Park Rangers

August 14th, 2018

33:54

Podcasts with Park Rangers is a podcast featuring conversations with Park Rangers from National Parks around the country. 

Lucas and Sarah Villa-Kainec are the hosts of the podcast Podcasts with Park Rangers.  

We sat …

Driven by Passion for a Place

August 7th, 2018

32:04

Eben Sypitkowski is the Director of Baxter State Park in Maine. 

Baxter State Park is a unique park. Baxter is a state park in name, but not park of Maine State Parks. The park started as a gift in land and resources …

Using Technology for Long Distance Interpretation

July 31st, 2018

27:29

As technology has changed around us, it has created a tremendous opportunity for interpretation. 

Brad Krey, Interpretation and Education Programs …

Exploring Wild Jobs

July 24th, 2018

29:42

Wild Jobs are all around us, but often go unnoticed.

John Griffith returns to the Park Leaders Show to tell us about his new show, Wild Jobs, on Animal Planet.

Griffith uses the show to highlight conservation and the …

Innovation and Leadership in Parks

July 17th, 2018

26:11

Dylan Mroszczyk-McDonald returns to the Park Leaders Show to continue the discussion about leadership and culture in parks. 

Dylan is a park ranger …

Improving Leadership and Culture in Parks

July 10th, 2018

23:55

Being a park ranger is an admirable job. Many people grow up dreaming of becoming a park ranger. 

Yet, too many people leave parks, and walk away …

A Park Ranger About to Enter the Academy

June 26th, 2018

21:12

Brennan McCauley returns to the Park Leaders Show to give an update on where he is in his park ranger career. 

Over the past two years, Brennan has …

Why Did You Become a Park Ranger?

May 29th, 2018

12:13

This episode of the Park Leaders Show digs into the audio vault and shares an audio file from the Ranger Rendezvous in 2015. 

I talk to 4 different …

Creating a Magic Culture

May 22nd, 2018

39:10

Dan Cockerell had a successful 26-year career with Disney, working his way from parking cars to the Vice President of the Magic Kingdom.

Before his …

Dealing with Homelessness in Parks

May 8th, 2018

24:01

David Gustafson is a lead ranger with the City of Boulder. With city parks, or parks close to cities, problems you see in cities can also spill over …

A Disruptive Approach to Conservation

April 9th, 2018

27:13

Christian Beckwith is not a traditional conservationist. He will admit, he is a climber, not a conservationist. 

Yet, Christian founded and leads an …

Giving More People Access to the Outdoors

March 20th, 2018

23:18

In order to protect parks and open spaces, we need more people who care enough to speak out and stand up for conservation. Jenny Mulholland Bearhs is …

Do Veterans Have A Responsibility to Give Back?

March 6th, 2018

43:40

After retiring as the Director of the National Park Service, Jon Jarvis took on a new role. 

Director Jarvis is a Director again. This time, he is …

Do Parks Have a Responsibility to Interpret?

February 20th, 2018

29:21

Do parks have a responsibility to interpret?

Cem Basman joins the Park Leaders Show to discuss. 

Building Friends Groups and Partnerships

February 6th, 2018

22:19

Building friends groups and partnerships is essential for a modern park. Krista Muddle from the National Park Service joins the Park Leaders Show to discuss partnerships. 

Krista Muddle is a Regional Partnership …

Helping People Discover Parks

January 9th, 2018

24:46

Audrey Peterman helps parks people discover parks. Many people who have taken park tours with Audrey are visiting parks for the first time.

Audrey is a consistent voice to help get people of all backgrounds into parks.

Creating a Great Visitor Experience

December 19th, 2017

23:57

Christen Miller's path towards becoming an interpreter began with a terrified toad. Seeing an interpretive program in a State Park, which included the toad, pushed Christen towards a life in parks. 

Now, Christen is the …

Learning from Leaders

November 28th, 2017

19:04

Brennan McAuley returns to the Park Leaders Show to share what he learned after another summer with the National Park Service. 

Brennan is a student …

Putting Safety First in Your Park

October 31st, 2017

26:01

After a career in the military, Christina Ryan-Miller joined the National Park Service. In her role as a Zone Safety Manager, she makes sure park …

Working Better With Volunteers

October 10th, 2017

10:28

Most parks work with volunteers. Some parks treat volunteers like stars. When this happens, word spreads in the volunteer community. 

But not all …

The Legend of the Spark Ranger

October 3rd, 2017

15:43

Roy Sullivan is a one of a kind park ranger. His story is so unique, we are still talking about him today. 

This episode of the Park Leaders Show, we …

Park Leaders are Servant Leaders

September 5th, 2017

28:58

All Park Leaders are servant leaders. We serve guests, employees, and the resources we vow to protect. 

Servant leaders recognize leadership is a stewardship responsibility. This style of leadership fits perfectly with …

How to Build a Reputation as a Leader

August 15th, 2017

26:41

Commander Bill Overby joins the Park Leaders Show to 

Commander Overby discusses his new consulting business, and how technology has changed the park …

Why You Should Connect With Your Peers

July 25th, 2017

35:12

Domenic Bravo, Director of Wyoming State Parks joins the Park Leaders Show to share his experience

Domenic also discusses the National Association of State Parks Directors and why it is important to connect with our …

Introducing the European Ranger Federation

July 11th, 2017

24:20

Tom Heenan, a ranger at BelhusWoods Country Park, joins the Park Leaders Show to talk about the European Ranger Federation. 

During our conversation, we talk about the issues Rangers face all over the world. Nature is …

Understanding How and Why People Use Parks

June 13th, 2017

29:49

Appropriate use of a park ensures sustainability for that park. This is how Jeff Hallo explains they balance between the balance between parks role …

What Do Kids Expect From Parks?

May 23rd, 2017

18:38

Have you ever stopped to wonder what kids want when they visit your park?

Tigran Nahabedian, known as Junior Ranger Tigran, joins the Park Leaders Show to give you an insight of how kids see your park. 

Junior Ranger …

What Makes a Great Interpreter?

May 16th, 2017

23:26

We are all interpreters. Whether it is in your title or not, if you work in parks, you are an interpreter.

Margot Carlock, Executive Director of National Association for Interpretation, joins the Park Leaders Show to …

How a Leader Can Help New Rangers

May 9th, 2017

17:13

In October 2016 we did an episode of the Park Leaders Show about the ProRanger Program at Temple University. In that episode, Brennan McAuley gave us …

Three Years of Park Leaders

May 2nd, 2017

9:29

Recently, I had lunch in Seattle with Alan Spears in Seattle. We talked about the great work the National Parks Conservation Association is doing. 

Finding Leadership in Nature

April 4th, 2017

19:42

Back when I was at the Inspiring a New Generation Summit, I met Steve Jones. At the time, Steve was the President of Antioch University New England.

Social Media for Parks

March 7th, 2017

47:47

Park visitors on active on social media. Is your park or agency using social media to engage and connect? Or are you just posting bulletins and the …

Parks Define a Community

January 17th, 2017

21:14

Sue Black, Director of Arizona State Parks, returns to the Park Leaders Show to talk about culture, visitation and the impact of parks on a state. 

Creating a Gold Medal Culture

January 10th, 2017

30:31

Sue Black, Director of Arizona State Parks, joins the Park Leaders Show to discuss creating a Gold Medal culture in parks. 

Arizona State Parks is …

Building a Parks Ambassador Program

January 3rd, 2017

40:03

When the Director of Texas State Parks was a guest on the Park Leaders Show, he mentioned the Ambassador Program as one of the great things they were doing in Texas.

Tyler Priest, the coordinator of the Ambassador …

Passion, Poaching, and Park Rangers

December 20th, 2016

22:08

James Slade grew up in beautiful British Columbia, Canada. Now, he is on the front line in Africa working as Operations Manager and ranger with the …

Bike Patrol in Parks

December 6th, 2016

47:28

Robert Ingram, Cheif of Visitor Protection and Law Enforcement for Washington State Parks, joins the Park Leaders Show to discuss bike patrol in …

Dealing With the Maintenance Backlog in Parks

November 29th, 2016

34:23

The National Park Service is faced with a $12 billion deferred maintenance backlog.  How did we get here and what can we do about it?

John Garder from the National Parks Conservation Association joins the Park Leaders …

Parks All Over the World Have Similar Problems

November 15th, 2016

18:17

One of the things I learned at the World Ranger Congress is that parks all over the world have the same problems. 

Teemu Laine and Vesa-Matti Hillberg, both park rangers from Finland, join the Park Leaders Show to share …

We Need to Support Parks at All Levels

November 8th, 2016

16:39

Brent Leisure, Director of Texas State Parks, returns for another episode of the Park Leaders Show. 

This episode is short enough it could have …

Communicating to All Levels of an Agency

November 1st, 2016

30:39

Texas is big. If you haven't been to Texas you have seen it on a map. No matter how you look at the state, it is big.

The enormous geographic size creates a challenge when it comes to communicating to staff if they are …

Gabon National Parks

October 18th, 2016

22:19

Joseph Mayambo wants you to know about the National Parks of Gabon. Joseph wants everyone to know about Gabon National Parks. 

Gabon has one of the newest National Park Systems in the world.  The World Ranger Congress …

Building Young Leaders

October 11th, 2016

32:04

Adrian Fernandez has an influence on young up and coming leaders in the National Park Service. Adrian is the Manager of the ProRanger Program at …

Historic Landscape Management

September 20th, 2016

25:56

Historic means something entirely different in the United Kingdom than it does in the United States. Historic in the states is still fairly new compared to some of the historic buildings and landscapes found in the …

National Parks and the Navajo Nation

September 13th, 2016

26:15

At the World Ranger Congress, Ravis Henry gave a program about the Navajo culture. Rangers from around the world took in his stories and songs about …

Our Dangerous Conservation Crisis

August 30th, 2016

31:07

Are we facing a dangerous conservation crisis? When the Director of US Fish & Wildlife Service says we are facing a conservation crisis, you can believe we have a problem. An article in Field & Stream discussed …

Creating a Trash Free Earth

August 23rd, 2016

25:45

Daisy Martinez founded Trash Free Earth so her neighborhood park would look better. The idea spread and Trash Free Earth now hosts regular cleanups …

Keeping Stories Alive

August 10th, 2016

25:57

Shelton Johnson returns to the Park Leaders Show for episode 101. If you missed part 1 of his interview, you can listen to it here.

In this episode, Shelton talks about the importance of telling stories. Shelton's …

Access to the Outdoors is a Civil Rights Issue

August 4th, 2016

32:13

Being a park ranger is not usually a job that puts you in the spotlight. But every once in a while, a story gets discovered that needs to be shared with the world. That is what happened to Yosemite National Park Ranger

Finding Service Excellence with Jeff Noel

July 26th, 2016

20:49

Our parks and Disney World share many commonalities. Often, people save money and vacation time to visit both places. When guests hold a place in …

Developing Women Leaders

June 14th, 2016

26:58

Recently, at the World Ranger Congress, a group of female delegates gathered to discuss issues woman face. This led me to consider how the female ranger experience is different than the male ranger experience, …

Tranforming the Kern River

May 31st, 2016

22:43

Gary Ananian is the founder of the Kern River Conservancy. He is a volunteer who pours his own time and money into protecting a river he loves. 

Protecting Wild Places Rick Bass

May 17th, 2016

33:37

After a backpacking trip to Glacier National Park, I passed through the Yaak Valley. I was intrigued by the beauty of the valley. It just felt different than most other places I had visited. 

Shortly after my short …

Unseen City with Nathanael Johnson

May 11th, 2016

26:39

Even in an urban setting, there is wilderness all around. Birds, bugs, plants are not just getting by, but thriving living in a city. 

Most people never notice. Most people quickly move from one place to another without …

Adaptive Leadership with Armando Quintero

May 3rd, 2016

28:05

Armando Quintero spent 22 years with the National Park Service. Now, Armando is the Executive Director of the Sierra Nevada Research Institute at The University of California, Merced. 

When Armando left his career as …

Setting Park Priorities with Matt Carroll

April 26th, 2016

30:44

Matt Carroll did not follow a typical path to becoming a Superintendent with the National Park Service. 

During a full career with the Air Force, …

Leave No Trace with Sam Ovett & Jenna Hanger

April 19th, 2016

27:35

Sam Ovett and Jenna Hanger are living a life that will make you jealous. It makes me jealous. Sam and Jenna are Traveling Trainers for Leave No Trace. They travel the western United States teaching the principals of …

City of Trees with Brandon Kramer

April 12th, 2016

27:17

Brandon Kramer joins the Park Leaders Show to talk about the new documentary film, City of Trees

City of Trees follows Washington Parks and People

Innovating Ideas in Parks with Ron Olson

April 5th, 2016

35:57

Many park agencies face budget struggles. Michigan State Parks faced the issues head-on by exploring new ways to add value to what parks offer.

Ron Olson, Chief of Michigan State Parks, joins the Park Leaders Show to …

Developing a Powerful Education Program with Caroline Blizzard

February 23rd, 2016

19:44

Caroline Blizzard is the Director of the Deep Creek Lake State Park Discovery Center. Caroline has created a successful education program about …

Private Sector Involvement in Public Parks with John Koeberer

February 9th, 2016

29:03

Private sector involvement in public parks is an issue most people are not indifferent on. Usually, people either see it as a solution to many of the …

Bioblitz Dance with John Griffith

January 26th, 2016

36:39

On this episode of the Park Leaders Show, John Griffith shares the story of creating the Bioblitz Dance with the encouragement and support of Rue Mapp of Outdoor Afro

John explains the reason for the Bioblitz Dance …

Interpreting the Flight 93 Memorial with Steve Clark

January 12th, 2016

33:30

Fort McHenry National Monument is one of Steve Clark's favorite National Parks. It is not for the obvious reasons either. It is because of baseball.

Steve got his connection to the outdoors through baseball. Of course, …

Greening Youth with Angelou Ezeilo

January 5th, 2016

38:15

In recent episodes of the Park Leaders Show, both Alan Spears and Jon Jarvis mentioned the Greening Youth Foundation. When two people I respect both mention the same organization, I know I have to look deeper. 

Angelou …

Parks Canada with Alan Latourelle

December 22nd, 2015

26:00

Alan Latourelle served as CEO of Parks Canada from 2002 to 2015. Alan joins the Park Leaders Show to discuss Parks Canada. 

In this episode, Latourelle talks about his experience as CEO. He also discusses Parks Canada …

The National Park Service with Jon Jarvis

December 8th, 2015

42:56

Jon Jarvis, Director of the National Park Service, join the Park Leaders Show. Director Jarvis discusses his career, the National Parks Centennial, and the one thing National Parks offers you can find nowhere else. 

I …

Canadian Parks Council with Dawn Carr

December 1st, 2015

30:06

Dawn Carr is the Executive Director of the Canadian Parks Council.  The Canadian Parks Council is an organization that unites national and provincial parks all across the country. 

Canadian Parks Council offers a Park …

Ten Random Park Ideas

November 24th, 2015

11:16

Episode 80 of the Park Leaders Show is ten random park related ideas. Individually, the ideas did not make a full episode. Collectively, the ideas …

Cultural Resources with Alan Spears

November 17th, 2015

39:45

Alan Spears is the Cultural Resources Director for the National Parks Conservation Association. Alan Spears and I had the opportunity to sit down …

Parks First with Cam Sholly

November 3rd, 2015

31:47

Cam Sholly joins the Park Leaders Show to offer a look at the National Park Service from a Region perspective.

Cam is the Region Director for the …

GeoTours and Geocaching with Jenn Seva

October 27th, 2015

19:45

Geocaching has been a popular outdoor activity for 15 years. It is in your park, or near your park. People will travel for miles to find a Geocache. 

Australian Parks with Pete Cleary

October 20th, 2015

39:13

The Park Leaders Show goes international. In this episode, I talk with Pete Cleary, a park ranger at Philip Island Nature Parks in Australia. 

We examine the unique characteristics about Philip Island, as well as the …

Theodore Roosevelt and National Parks with Clay Jenkinson

October 6th, 2015

41:42

After a tremendous performance as Theodore Roosevelt, Clay Jenkinson returns to the  Park Leaders Show to talk about Theodore Roosevelt and parks.

If you haven't yet listened to the episode with Clay in character as …

Why We Need Parks with Theodore Roosevelt

September 29th, 2015

37:08

President Theodore Roosevelt was a pivotal figure in the early days of the National Park Service. The National Park Service as we know it would not …

Taking Great Park Photographs with David Molnar

September 22nd, 2015

23:18

When I was a new park ranger, I noticed the Park Manager, Jack Hartt, would carry a camera in his pocket. I saw him take photos of trees, bugs, …

Being Community Leaders with Donald Forgione

September 15th, 2015

33:32


Donald Forgione, Director of Florida State Parks, returns to the Park Leaders Show.

In this episode, we discuss how Florida State Parks connects …

From Park Ranger to Parks Director with Donald Forgione

September 8th, 2015

29:50

Donald Forgione began his career as a Park Ranger with Florida State Parks. Over time, Ranger Forgione became Director Forgione.

As Director of Florida State Parks, Donald Forgione considers himself to be a ranger …

Are We Leaving Out Millennials?

August 11th, 2015

9:14

Are we leaving out Millennials from the park experience?

I recently read an article in Outside Magazine questioning if the outdoor industry has a Millennial problem.

This article from Outside magazine touches on many …

Exploring Urban National Parks with Philip Selleck

August 4th, 2015

33:56

Have you noticed the National Park Service Find Your Park campaign?

There is a park for everyone, is what the National Park Service wants you to know with the Find Your Park campaign. But don't assume parks are only …

The Value of Parks to a State with Lt. Governor Spencer Cox

July 28th, 2015

31:46

Spencer Cox, Lt. Governor of Utah, joins the Park Leaders Show to talk about the value of state and national parks to the state of Utah.

Utah is fortunate to be home to five national parks, several national monuments …

How to Hire Great People with Carol Quinn

July 21st, 2015

30:40

Carol Quinn returns to the Park Leaders Show to explain how to hire great people. If you missed the first half of the interview with Carol Quinn, you …

Motivation Based Interviewing with Carol Quinn

July 14th, 2015

34:32

Lee Cockerell has said "Your most important responsibility is to hire and promote the right people for your organization." If that is true, we need …

12 Steps to Enhance a Visitor Experience with Eric Watilo

July 7th, 2015

32:46

Recently, Eric Watilo issues a document to parks in his region of Washington State Parks giving ideas to make sure visitor's have a better experience when they visit parks.

When I saw the information Eric was getting …

Working in a Remote Park

June 30th, 2015

23:21

Big Bend National Park is one of the most remote parks in the lower 48 states. Allen Etheridge, Chief Ranger at Big Bend, shares the experience of working at such a remote park.

Allen explains the lifestyle of living …

From Corpsmember to Park Ranger with LaJuan Tucker

June 23rd, 2015

31:26

LaJuan Tucker received an introduction to conservation with the Texas Conservation Corps. She started as a crew member and eventually became a staff …

Exploring Wildlife Education with Mary Ann Bonnell

June 9th, 2015

45:33

County Parks play a vital role in the grand scheme of parks. A County Park system usually manages parks that range from urban to wilderness. County …

Updates about Park Leaders

June 2nd, 2015

5:39


This week is a short episode to provide updates on what is going on with Park Leaders.

Thank you for the great feedback about the episode with Betty Soskin. It was a delight to interview her, and I am pleased you liked …

Wisdom From the Oldest Park Ranger in America

May 26th, 2015

41:54

This episode of the Park Leaders Show felt like I was talking to history. Betty Soskin is the oldest park ranger in the United States. Betty is 93 …

Creating Magic in Parks with Lee Cockerell

May 19th, 2015

28:08

Lee Cockerell, former Executive Vice President of Operations for Walt Disney World, returns to the Park Leaders Show to talk about how parks can create magic.

Previously, Lee has been on the Park Leaders Show to talk …

The Myth of the Well Rounded Ranger

May 12th, 2015

9:00


When I was a park ranger, the former director of our agency used to preach the concept of the well-rounded ranger.  I believe his message was that our agency needed to train rangers for more than law enforcement. He …

Connecting Parks to Communities with Cassius Cash

May 5th, 2015

32:03

Great Smoky Mountains National Park is the most popular National Park in the United States. People come from all over the eastern half of the country …

Podcast Your Park with Jeff Brown

April 28th, 2015

52:50

I am on a mission to get parks to start podcasting. Podcasting is a way parks can serve visitors in a new and unique way. To explore the idea of podcasting in parks, I went straight to one of the best podcasters around.

Being a Seasonal Law Enforcement Ranger

April 21st, 2015

19:55

Amanda Llanes returns to the Park Leaders Show to talk about her first season as a seasonal law enforcement ranger with the National Park Service. At the time of her first interview, Amanda was a cadet in the law …

Life as a Seasonal Park Ranger

April 14th, 2015

25:33

On the Park Leaders Show, I often talk to leaders in the National Park Service. Chief Interpreters, Chief Rangers and Park Superintendents have all been guests on the show.

The one thing they all have in common is they …

Developing an Entrepreneurial Spirit in Parks

April 7th, 2015

34:49

If you have listened to the Park Leaders Show for a while, you know Jack Hartt was a mentor of mine while I was a park ranger. It was my …

One Year of Park Leaders

March 31st, 2015

26:56

After publishing an episode of the Park Leaders Show every week for 52 weeks, the microphone gets turned around. Jared Easley, host of Starve the Doubts, interviews Jody Maberry, the host of the Park Leaders Show.

The …

Hosting Concerts in Parks

March 24th, 2015

28:38

For several summers, with the help of a group of tremendous volunteers, I ran a summer concert series at a park I worked at. We delighted park …

How to Make a Park “Park-Like”

March 17th, 2015

53:54

Jack Hartt is deliberate about the experience people have at Deception Pass State Park. He feels a park experience should feel "Park-Like".

Most …

The Art of Work with Jeff Goins

March 10th, 2015

33:58

Jeff Goins returns to the Park Leaders Show to discuss his new book, The Art of Work.

The Art of Work is a proven path to discovering what you were meant to do. It is about finding your calling and being who you were …

Lessons from 30 Years in the National Park Service

March 3rd, 2015

44:37

As a young leader, one of the best ways to build yourself is to learn from established leaders. Someone has already made the mistakes you are going to make, wrestled with the decisions you struggle with, and found the …

The Digital Side of Recreation

February 24th, 2015

20:30

Outdoor recreation is not immune from the growing trend of technology. Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram are all a part of recreation for many people.

The Value of a Night Sky to a Park

February 17th, 2015

27:07

If you have ever worked a night shift in a park, you have experienced the beauty of night sky. Away from lights, campfires, and digital screens, a night sky is one of the true wonders of many parks.

Not many people get …

Communication in Parks Panel Discussion

February 10th, 2015

51:26

A common theme from the People of Parks Project has been a frustration with communication between leadership, admin staff, and staff in the field. When I hear the same thing come up often I know we need to lean into it …

Bringing Back the Passenger Pigeon

February 3rd, 2015

40:52

When I was young my father always had pigeons as pets. I spent plenty of time around his feathered friends. Perhaps that is where my interest in the passenger pigeon came from.

I used to imagine what it must have been …

Building a Tribe of Supporters for Your Park

January 27th, 2015

37:08

Jeff Goins has made his living with the support of a tribe.  The loyal following to his popular blog led to a successful self published book, You Are …

Connecting People to Parks Through Writing

January 20th, 2015

28:33

Park Rangers are great storytellers. Sean Smith, former National Park Ranger, used the storytelling gift to write a series of thrillers with a park ranger as the hero.

In this episode of the Park Leaders Show, Sean …

Making Park Visitors Feel Like Insiders

January 13th, 2015

23:43

Phil Gaines, Director of South Carolina State Parks, returns to the Park Leaders Show to follow up on his first interview.

In this second interview, …

Why Your Park is the Most Important Park with Phil Gaines

January 6th, 2015

33:45

When I began my career as a park ranger at Riverside State Park, Jack Hartt would often tell me how lucky he was to the park manager. He convinced me …

Connecting People to Wild Places Through Local Parks

December 30th, 2014

37:19

When you think of City Parks, what comes to mind?

I imagine you don't think of 29,000 acres and 5,000 individual properties in a single City Park System. That is how much property New York city Parks is responsible for.

Saving the Hetch Hetchy

December 23rd, 2014

24:42

December 2014 marks the 100th anniversary of the death of John Muir. Muir passed away on December 24th, 1914. His last fight was to save the Hetch Hetchy valley. If you are not familiar with John Muir and the Hetch …

Why You Need to Write Great Email

December 16th, 2014

12:26

As a leader you have a responsibility to continue to get better. There is one area in particular though, where I think you need to improve and you …

Building Youth into Leaders

December 9th, 2014

22:57

Have you heard anyone suggest our country should bring back the Civilian Conservation Corps?

I have. And I agree, it would be a good thing for our …

How to Create Great Park Signs with Mike Kim

December 2nd, 2014

31:57

Park signs are an important piece of park management. Typically, a visitor interacts with signs more often than they do with park staff. The words on signs create an identity for the park.

How many parks take the time …

Parks are the Caretakers of American History

November 25th, 2014

36:15

This episode of the Park Leaders Show is a part two of sorts. My interview with Kelli English was so wonderful and long that I broke it into two …

Helping Visitors Find a Connection to a Park

November 18th, 2014

38:52

Kelli English is the Chief of Interpretation for four National Park Units in the Bay Area of California, including John Muir National Historic Site. She has spent her career as a park ranger interpreting stories to park …

The Social Science of Parks

November 11th, 2014

28:21

David Flores may not be who you would expect to pour his talent and research into outdoor recreation and conservation.

Typically, someone who devotes …

Investing in Leadership with Bradley Fauteux

November 4th, 2014

37:25

Bradley Fauteux is the Managing Director of Ontario Parks, and the first international guest of the Park Leaders Show.

After a stint as a professional musician, Bradley began a career in Government and has become the …

How to Find a Mentor

October 28th, 2014

21:11

Recently, I was talking to a park manager who told me someone on his team was looking for mentoring opportunities. It got me thinking about mentors …

Diversity Panel Discussion

October 21st, 2014

46:53

Diversity has been a consistent topic on the Park Leaders Show. For this episode, three former guests of the show return to have a panel discussion about diversity.

Teresa Baker (founder of African American National …

Nine Customer Service Rules with Lee Cockerell

October 14th, 2014

27:19

Lee Cockerell returns to the Park Leaders Show to discuss customer service. Lee examines takes a deeper look at nine of the thirty-nine essential …

Give People a Reason to Visit Your Park with Ray Bivens

October 7th, 2014

38:39

Two episodes of the Park Leaders Show have discussed the Conservation Corps.  Ray Bivens is a true Conservation Corps success story. Ray Bivens began his outdoor career with the Maryland Conservation Corps. That …

Preserving Parks Against Industry

September 30th, 2014

33:50

Valerie Naylor is the recipient of the 2013 Stephen T. Mather Award for her steadfast leadership and persistent dedication to National Parks. Her persistent dedication has been put to the test against industrial …

The Foundation of Leadership with John G. Miller

September 23rd, 2014

26:39

Personal accountability is the foundation of leadership. If you don't get personal accountability right, nothing else in leadership works as well as …

Reaching Communities of Color with Naomi Torres

September 16th, 2014

25:33

Naomi Torres is included on Richard Rojas' short list of All Star Champions of change. When someone makes it onto a list like that, I know I want to talk to her.

Naomi is the Superintendent of the Juan Bautista de Anza …

What Parks Can Learn From Disney with Lee Cockerell

September 9th, 2014

37:26

As I talk to leaders and managers from parks, Disney came up more than once as a source parks could look to for best practices and new ideas on how …

Becoming a Park Manager

September 2nd, 2014

43:37

Sarah Milbourne recently became the Park Manager of Rocky Gap State Park in Maryland. Sarah is the product of a Park System which invests in employees.

She bursts with enthusiasm for her agency, her park, and her new …

Celebrating Seventy Years of Smokey Bear

August 26th, 2014

16:56

I have been a lifelong fan of Smokey Bear. This month, August 2014, Smokey Bear celebrates his 70th birthday. Imagine that. Smokey has been with us since the Second World War.

Seventy years of grandfatherly advice about …

Can You Have Fun and Still Be Professional?

August 19th, 2014

36:12

For this episode, I invited a guest to return and we took questions from park rangers in the field. 

So far, the most listened to episode has been Don't Let the Park Define You with Commander Bill Overby. I invited Bill …

The Storied Career of a National Park Service Ranger with Tom Betts

August 12th, 2014

38:03

Each year, the National Park Service asks Rangers to single out one ranger who epitomizes the Ranger ethic. Believe me, there are so many rangers who …

Connecting with Youth with Ruby Simonian

August 5th, 2014

21:03

When you want to talk about youth involved in parks and recreation, the best place to start is with the Corps Network. I have become fond of the …

Is Parks a Man’s World?

July 29th, 2014

35:13

Marty Huseman is the Chief Ranger at Lake Roosevelt National Recreation Area. Her career with the National Park Service has taken her all over the country.

As she began her career, she was advised to take a job at a …

Can National Parks Remain Relevant?

July 22nd, 2014

36:06

Ray Murray could be considered an environmental elder. He has been working in the field of parks, recreation, and conservation for decades. Ray is …

Park Rangers are Heroes

July 15th, 2014

17:55

I have had the opportunity to talk to many people about why they became a park ranger. Each story is personal and unique, but the answer Amanda …

Interpreting an Experience

July 8th, 2014

14:41

During a camping trip at Maumee Bay State Park I watched as the park prepared for a Fourth of July celebration. Small flags lined the entrance road …

African American National Parks Day

July 1st, 2014

36:30

Consider your last visits to our National Parks. Just pick one, Yellowstone, Yosemite, Glacier, or Mount Ranier. How many African-American faces did you see on your visit?

Even better, when was the last time you saw an …

Parks are in the Business of People with Austin Bradley

June 24th, 2014

24:15

Former Washington State Parks Director, Rex Derr, told me about the State Parks Leadership School. This School was founded by the National …

Taking Ownership of Your Park

June 17th, 2014

22:13

Chris Brogan may not be who you expect to talk about parks.

Chris is is an adviser and strategist to professionals and owners. He is a New York Times best selling author of seven books, including The Freaks Shall …

What Will Your Legacy Be?

June 10th, 2014

47:49

I know Park Leaders is on a roll when I end up talking with someone like Richard Rojas. It is a sign to me the dots are starting to connect. I was …

Ten Steps to Get the Most out of Working With Volunteers

June 3rd, 2014

14:50

At Park Leaders we examine issues relevant for park leaders. We have heard from more than one guest on the Park Leaders Show about how important …

Latinos and Parks with Jose Gonzalez

May 27th, 2014

29:48

Park Leaders has been discussing diversity lately. Diversity is on of the most pressing issues to ensure parks remain relevant.

You can not examine diversity in parks without coming across the name Jose Gonzalez. Jose …

Discussing Diversity in Parks

May 20th, 2014

46:04

You may find this episode uncomfortable. I am fine with that. John Griffith will call you out.

Our parks are not just for white guys in fleece …

Developing Leaders in Your Park

May 13th, 2014

47:13

Jack Hartt is Park Manager of Deception Pass State Park. Deception Pass is considered to be the flagship park of Washington State, and many consider Jack to be the flagship Ranger. He has inspired or trained many …

Don’t Let the Park Define You with Bill Overby

May 6th, 2014

32:16

Bill Overby, Commander of the Parks Law Enforcement Academy

Bill Overby is Commander of the Parks Law Enforcement Academy at Skagit Valley College in …

Happen to Your Career with Scott Barlow and Mark Sieverkropp

April 29th, 2014

34:04

Scott Barlow and Mark Sieverkropp from Happen To Your Career

Scott Barlow is a Human Resources Manager with a company in Washington State. He is also a career coach and founder of Happen To Your Career.  Mark Sieverkropp

The Value of Experience with Eric Watilo

April 22nd, 2014

36:58

Eric Watilo, Region Manager with Washington State Parks

Eric Watilo is a Region Manager with Washington State Parks.

After fifteen years in the field as a Park Manager and Park Manager, Eric has spent the past sixteen …

Parks are the Soul of a Community with Rex Derr

April 14th, 2014

22:21

Rex Derr is the former director of Washington State Parks.

Rex says his career in Parks was glorious and feels parks are the soul of a community. Rex …

Feeling the Pulse of a Park

April 14th, 2014

22:35

Chris Guidotti is the manager of Riverside State Park in Spokane, WA.

Ranger Guidotti has lead his park and staff to find new ways to create revenue and recreation opportunities for visitors, despite increasing budget …

What is Park Leaders?

April 14th, 2014

6:57

In this introductory episode of the podcast, I explain what Park Leaders is about.

What is Park Leaders?

Park Leaders is a place to connect the wisdom of those who did with the passion of those who will.

We are going to …

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