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Overheard at National Geographic

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Come dive into one of the curiously delightful conversations overheard at National Geographic’s headquarters, as we follow explorers, photographers, and scientists to the edges of our big, weird, beautiful world. Hosted by Peter Gwin and Amy Briggs.


The Soul of Music: Exploring Chief Xian's ancestral memory

This episode is part three of The Soul of Music—Overheard’s four-part series focusing on music, exploration, and Black history. Our guest this week is Grammy-nominated trumpeter Chief Xian aTunde Adjuah, formerly known as Christian Scott. Chief Xian sits down with National Geographic Explorer and archaeologist Justin Dunnavant to discuss Xian’s childhood in New Orleans, how he created a new instrument, and what he calls stretch music.

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Learn more about Chief Xian at his website And you can follow him on Instagram @christianscottofficial

You can also download his stretch music app, an interactive music player, in the Google Play store or Apple App store. 

Also, be sure to follow Justin online to stay updated with his latest adventures: or on social media @archfieldnotes

Also explore: 

Interested in learning more about global Black history and heritage? Follow Justin Dunnavant as he explores Loíza, the ancestral heart and soul of the Afro-Puerto Rican community, in Hulu’s Your Attention Please: Initiative 29.

Listen to episode 3 of the Into the Depths podcast which includes Justin as a guest.

Want to travel to New Orleans? Check out Nat Geo’s travel guide for tips on how to make the most of your trip. 

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