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Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary

370 EpisodesProduced by Matthew Zachary WorldwideWebsite

Out of Patients is a no-BS podcast about making healthcare suck less for everyone. Join award-winning host Matthew Zachary each week as he and his guests sardonically deconstruct all the shenanigans in terms normal humans can understand, along with a healthy dose of 80s nostalgia and random pop cult… read more

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The Saga of Gail Zahtz: Cancer Jail, The Binghamton Crosbys, and Value-Based Care

Gail Zahtz is many things. Quiet isn't one of them. A fellow alum of 1990s SUNY Binghamton, her early career started in traditional old-school print, radio, and TV journalism. Basically, all things pre-Internet. And life went on its merry way for years, as it should, until a multi-year comedy of terrors befell her with a much-delayed diagnosis of Stage IV breast cancer. Hilarity definitely did not ensue as she faced innumerable and endless rabbit holes of shitness navigating her disease. Learn how she went to literal "cancer jail" and fought her way out, among other blitheringly insane experiences no one asks for. Now five years cancer-free, Gail's hill to die on is "value-based care," which is jargon for actually making healthcare suck less for millions. Enjoy the show.

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