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Organize Chaos

238 EpisodesProduced by Chris Ronzio | TrainualWebsite

Every weekday on Organize Chaos, get entrepreneurial and small business leadership advice from the Founder and CEO of Trainual, Chris Ronzio. From people to processes to productivity, and how to organize your life around it all. Daily SMB insight in snackable episodes published Monday - Thursday, pl… read more


Verne Harnish: How to Effectively Scale Your Business with Process

Verne Harnish is the authority in Scaling Up your business - so much so that he literally wrote the book called Scaling Up, following the success of two other books - The Greatest Business Decisions of All Time, and Mastering the Rockefeller Habits. He’s worked with thousands of organizations, helping them to grow successfully and efficiently, even founding Entrepreneurs’ Organization or EO, a top entrepreneurs hub of over 14,000 members around the world. Verne is also the CEO of Scaling Up, an executive education and coaching company. 

Verne’s work has been a huge inspiration for me in growing Trainual, from the principles in Scaling Up, being a member of EO, and our brands even share the color purple.

In this episode, we talk about the biggest barriers that startups face, transferring knowledge to team members as you grow, when you should start documenting your processes, and more.

Find the show notes for this episode here!

Host: Chris Ronzio 

Brought to you by Trainual

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