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Episode 46: Robert Wallace on a Career in Intelligence and The Spy Sites Series and Spy Craft

March 5th, 2021


Robert Wallace spent a 33 year career with the Central Intelligence Agency and is widely known for the very well done books he and co-author Keith …

Episode 45: Blake Bartlett, CEO of Janes, On Leadership and Decision Making In The Modern Age

February 26th, 2021


Blake Bartlett is the CEO of Janes, the well known and trusted provider of open source defense intelligence. In this OODAcast we examine lessons learned from Blake's career and path from a young student with a desire …

Episode 44: Michele Wucker on Identifying and Confronting the Obvious Risks of Gray Rhinos

February 19th, 2021


Michele Wucker is specialist in risk management and crisis anticipation and is author of the book "The Gray Rhino: How to Recognize and Act on the Obvious Dangers We Ignore". While we've all become familiar with Taleb's …

Episode 53: Vikram Sharma, CEO of Quintessence Labs on Leadership in the Quantum Era

February 12th, 2021


Vikram Sharma is the founder and CEO of Canberra Australia based QuintessenceLabs. His company provides solutions based on quantum technology to …

Episode 52: Former CIA Officer Rob Richer on the Geopolitical Landscape, Leadership Lessons Learned, and Supporting Decision-makers

February 5th, 2021


Rob Richer is a highly regarded advisor to international executives and global government leaders including several heads of state. Rob has a well informed perspective on international risks and opportunities and an …

Episode 51: Camila Russo on Ethereum and the Future of Decentralized Finance (DeFi)

January 28th, 2021


This week's OODAcast features an interview with Camila Russo, the author of the book "The Infinite Machine: How an Army of Crypto-hackers Is Building the Next Internet with Ethereum". Camila is also the founder of the …

Episode 50: Will Hurd on Skills For Success In The Modern Age

January 21st, 2021


Former Congressman Will Hurd joins us on this episode of OODACast to discuss what he has learned about business and entrepreneurship from a diverse career in the intelligence community, elected office and the private …

Episode 49: Kathy and Randy Pherson, Authors of Critical Thinking for Strategic Intelligence

January 15th, 2021


Kathy and Randy Pherson both had successful careers in the US Intelligence Community, where they pioneered new analytical methods and would later …

Episode 48: Ric Prado on Intelligence Operations and a Legendary Career in the CIA

January 5th, 2021


Ric Prado has been described by CIA leadership as the closest thing to 007 that the United States has ever had. Ric's life is packed with more adventure and operations than your favorite spy novel series. Coming out of …

Episode 47: The Top 10 Security, Technology, and Business Books of 2020

December 22nd, 2020


In this OODAcast, Bob Gourley and Matt Devost discuss Matt's picks for the Top 10 Security, Technology, and Business Books of the year. Now in its …

Episode 46: Mischel Kwon, Founder and CEO of W@tchTower

December 17th, 2020


In this OODAcast we interview Michel Kwon, the founder and CEO of W@tchTower. She is a leader who has proven herself through an ability to success in three different career fields, first as a developer and programmer …

Episode 45: Juan Enriquez On Technology, Ethics and the Future

December 11th, 2020


Juan Enriquez has succeeded as a businessman, academic, author and lecturer. For those who might not have met him via any of his many appearances and presentations, he can be succinctly described as an authority on the …

Episode 44: Masha Sedova, Co-Founder Elevate Security on Human Risk Management

December 4th, 2020


Masha Sedova is an award-winning people-security expert, speaker, and entrepreneur focused on helping companies transform employees from a risk into a key element of defense.

She has been a part of our OODA Network for …

Episode 43: Bob Gourley on Operational Intelligence for Strategic Decision-making

November 20th, 2020


In this OODAcast, OODA Network Expert Jen Hoar interviews noted cybersecurity and intelligence professional Bob Gourley, CTO of OODA LLC, diving deep into what makes him tick.

Jen asks Bob about his career, including …

Episode 42: CEO of Women's Society of Cyberjutsu and Cybersecurity Leader Mari Galloway

November 13th, 2020


Like many others we have observed first hand the positive changes in the cybersecurity community being enabled by Mari Galloway. In this OODAcast we look beyond those changes to find out what makes her tick, revealing …

Episode 41: Technology Risk Executive and former NASA CISO and CIO Jerry Davis

November 6th, 2020


Jerry Davis has spent decades succeeding in hard jobs supporting critically important missions. He is a decorated combat Veteran who served in he US Marines for 11 years including in Operation Desert Storm/Desert …

Episode 40: Paul Kurtz, Iconic Cybersecurity Leader and Founder of TruSTAR

October 30th, 2020


Paul Kurtz is an internationally recognized expert on cybersecurity and the Co-Founder and Chairman of TruSTAR.

Paul began working on cybersecurity …

Episode 39: Rear Admiral Paul Becker, USN (ret) on leadership in the modern age

October 23rd, 2020


Rear Admiral Paul Becker, USN (Retired), is an author, speaker and board member with extensive experience in intelligence operations.

During his 30 …

Episode 38: Dr. Melissa Flagg of the Center for Security and Emerging Technology

October 16th, 2020


Dr. Melissa Flagg is a Senior Fellow at the Center for Security and Emerging Technology (CSET) at Georgetown University. Previously she served as the …

Episode 37: Mark Weatherford On Leading Change As a CISO

October 12th, 2020


Mark Weatherford is an icon in the cybersecurity field. He is widely known as a mission focused leader who builds teams and gets hard things done. …

Episode 36: Matt Devost on Hacking Entrepreneurship and Identifying Threats and Opportunities

October 1st, 2020


In this OODAcast, the tables are turned as OODA Network Expert Jen Hoar interviews CEO Matt Devost and they discuss how Matt consistently identified new threats and opportunities by blending eccentric interests into a …

Episode 35: Kevin Roberts on Leadership, Decision-making, and Focused Action

September 24th, 2020


Kevin Roberts has had an illustrious career spanning many industries over numerous continents including serving as Chairman and CEO of Saatchi & Saatchi, one of the world’s leading creative organizations, where he …

Episode 34: Gary Harrington on Leadership Lessons from Delta Force to the CIA

September 18th, 2020


Gary Harrington had a distinguished career of national service that included over three decades in top tier special operations groups including Delta Force and then transitioning into the CIA. Gary was one of the first …

Episode 33: Michael Kanaan, Author of T-Minus AI Discusses Artificial Intelligence and Global Power

September 11th, 2020


Michael Kanaan has helped a wide swath of decision-makers better grasp the nature of AI. He has a knack for expressing complex topics in clear, accurate and succinct ways and many of us in the national security …

Episode 32: Jim Miller on Managing Policy in an Age of Constant Disruption and Dynamic Threats

September 3rd, 2020


Jim Miller has worked for four decades on a combination of private and public sector initiatives focused on addressing a wide variety of national security threats.  He has held numerous positions within the Department …

Episode 31: Chet Richards on John Boyd and applying OODA principles to the business world

August 28th, 2020


Chet Richards was a close associate of the late US Air Force Colonel John Boyd. He was there as the concept of the OODA Loop was being developed and …

Episode 30: Courtney Bowman, Privacy and Civil Liberties Engineer, Palantir Technologies

August 19th, 2020


Courtney Bowman leads Palantir's Privacy and Civil Liberties Engineering Team. In this capacity he works extensively with local, state and international governments and philanthropic partners to develop …

Episode 29: Kevin DeSanto On Due Diligence and MA Transactions and Trust Based Networking

August 13th, 2020


Kevin DeSanto is an investment banker delivering advice and execution assistance to high growth businesses preparing for M&A and financial transactions. His company, KippsDeSanto, has developed a reputation for …

Episode 28: Bradley Rotter On The Future Of Work, CryptoCurrencies, Quantum Computing and Leadership

August 6th, 2020


Bradley Rotter is a visionary investor who has pioneered investments in many new alternative investments classes including having been an early …

Episode 27: Andy Lustig On Legal and Due Diligence Support In The High Tech Era

July 30th, 2020


Andrew (Andy) Lustig is a partner at the high tech law firm Cooley, where he focuses on private equity investments, mergers and acquisitions and the …

Episode 26: Paul Pagnato, CEO and Founder at PagnatoKarp and Author of The Transparency Wave

July 23rd, 2020


Paul Pagnato migrated from a career as a scientist looking for life in outer space to one of the top financial advisors in the U.S. with a keen eye …

Episode 25: Alsop-Louie Partner and Famed Tech Executive Bill Crowell on Technology Due Diligence

July 16th, 2020


Bill Crowell is a senior executive with extensive experience in government (rose to the level of Deputy Director of the National Security Agency) and in industry. He has been a CEO of leading companies like Cylink, …

Episode 24: Mark Weatherford On Leading Change As a CISO

July 9th, 2020


Mark Weatherford is an icon in the cybersecurity field. He is widely known as a mission focused leader who builds teams and gets hard things done. …

Episode 23: Brad Meltzer, Bestselling Novelist With Insights To Inform Your Business Strategy

June 26th, 2020


Brad Meltzer is the #1 New York Times bestselling author of The Culper Ring Trilogy (The Inner Circle, The Fifth Assassin, The President's Shadow), …

Episode 22: John Robb on Global Guerrillas and Frameworks to Drive Decision Making

June 15th, 2020


There is hardly a person more suited to speak with the OODA team on OODA Loops that former Air Force pilot John Robb. John has worked successfully in …

Episode 21: Bobbie Stempfley of Carnegie Mellon University Software Engineering Institute

June 12th, 2020


The leadership team at OODA have had the pleasure of working with and learning from Bobbie Stempfley since her leadership of the Department of Defense Computer Emergency Response Team (DoD CERT) after she established it …

Episode 20: Marc Ambinder of USC Annenberg School For Communication and Journalism

June 4th, 2020


Marc Ambinder is a journalist, researcher, historian, author of bestselling books and a teacher/mentor to many. We invited him on the OODAcast to help our community as we continue to look for insights that can drive …

Episode 19: Author Peter Singer on his new book Burn-In

May 29th, 2020


P. W. Singer is a strategist at New America and the author of a string of impactful and prescient books. His non fiction books (including …

Episode 18: Congressman Will Hurd

May 27th, 2020


In this OODAcast, OODA LLC CEO Matt Devost interviews Congressman Will Hurd in a wide ranging discussion that touches on issues of geopolitical risk, …

Episode 17: Robert Fink of Palantir on Lessons Learned From Using Data In Crisis Response

May 21st, 2020


Robert Fink is on the leadership team at Palantir, where he has helped shape their approach to product design and architecture. He has also played …

Episode 16 - Investment Banker J.C. Raby

May 20th, 2020


Boston Meridian is an innovative investment banking firm focused on providing strategic M&A advisory and capital raising services to fast growing private and small cap public growth companies. Since their founding …

Episode 15; Renowned Business Executive Scott McNealy, Co-Founder of Sun Microsystems

May 18th, 2020

"Leaders should attenuate, not amplify." - Scott McNealy

Scott McNealy was a co-founder and CEO of Sun Microsystems and has one of the …

Episode 14: Retired U.S. Air Force Brigadier General Balan Ayyar

May 15th, 2020


Balan Ayyar is the Founder and CEO of, a Silicon Valley based artificial intelligence firm focused on delivering products and solutions …

Episode 13: Expert Practitioner of Analysis Carmen Medina

May 13th, 2020


Carmen Medina served 32 years in senior positions at the Central Intelligence Agency, most of which focused on one of the hardest tasks in the community, that of analysis. Carmen rose to lead the strategic assessments …

Episode 12: Cybercrime and Cybersecurity Expert Lou Manousos

May 8th, 2020


Elias (Lou) Manousos is a recognized expert in Internet security and fraud prevention. He has been developing and delivering enterprise protection …

Episode 11: Cybersecurity Leader Cameron Over

May 5th, 2020


Cameron Over leads the Cyber & Privacy service line at CrossCountry Consulting. Cameron has extensive past performance in cybersecurity, …

Episode 10: Cybersecurity Icon Phil Reitinger

April 29th, 2020


Phil Reitinger has been been a pioneer in cutting edge concepts for reducing risks in cyberspace for years. He was a special assistant US Attorney in the late 1990's, a time when high end nation state attacks were on …

Episode 9 - Henry Harrison - Seasoned Industry Executive and Serial Entrepreneur

April 29th, 2020


In this episode of the OODAcast, Bob discusses the creative process and technology management approaches of Henry Harrison, CTO of Garrison Computing.

Episode 8: A Conversation With Quantum Security Practitioner Jane Melia

April 24th, 2020


In this OODAcast we dive deep into topics of Quantum Computing, Quantum Security and best practices for ensuring your data remains safe even after quantum computers can break current asymmetric encryption methods. Our …

Episode 7: A Conversation with Bob Flores

April 22nd, 2020


OODA CTO Bob Gourley was joined by former CTO of the CIA Bob Flores in a discussion on the state of enterprise technology, resulting in this next in …

Episode 6: A Conversation with Tony Cole

April 17th, 2020


OODA CTO Bob Gourley was joined by Tony Cole of Attivo Networks in an interactive discussion on the state of cybersecurity, with a focus on how …

Episode 5: A Conversation With Lewis Shepherd (Part Two)

April 14th, 2020


In this second of a two part OODAcast, OODA CTO Bob Gourley was joined by Lewis Shepherd, seasoned federal technology executive and a senior director …

Episode 4: A Conversation with Technology Executive Lewis Shepherd (Part One)

April 9th, 2020


In this two part OODAcast, OODA CTO Bob Gourley was joined by Lewis Shepherd, seasoned federal technology executive and a senior director of …

Episode 3: A Conversation with David Bray (Part Two)

April 7th, 2020


OODA CTO Bob Gourley was joined by Dr. David Bray of the Atlantic Council’s Geotech Center for a wide ranging discussion on risks and opportunities in the current business environment. Decision-makers and analysts …

Episode 2: A Conversation with David Bray (Part One)

April 1st, 2020


OODA CTO Bob Gourley was joined by Dr. David Bray of the Atlantic Council’s Geotech Center for a wide ranging discussion on risks and opportunities in the current business environment. Decision-makers and analysts …

Episode 1: A conversation with Dan Gerstein

March 31st, 2020


OODA CTO Bob Gourley is joined by technologist and national security expert Dan Gerstein from Rand Corporation.  Dan is also the author of the …

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