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On the Grid is a podcast featuring Matt McInerney, Andy Mangold & Dan Auer thinking out loud about design weekly.

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Episode 158: Finale

March 17th, 2016


Recorded March 17th, 2016. The last episode of On the Grid. Check out our new shows: Working File and Good Bad Show

Episode 157: Matt and Andy

March 10th, 2016


Recorded March 10th, 2016. How are things at school? Send your emails to mail at and tweet to @gridshow.

Episode 156: Content Information Copy Architecting Strategy

March 3rd, 2016


Recorded March 3rd, 2016. This week we talked about Content Strategy and Copywriting.

Episode 155: The Pitch

February 25th, 2016


Recorded February 25th, 2016. This week we talked about... The Pitch.

Episode 154: Matching

February 18th, 2016

Recorded February 18th, 2016. This week: Kanye loses Andy's vote, matching stainless steel appliances, and the diversity of Friends of the …

Episode 151: Future Box

February 17th, 2016


Recorded January 27, 2016. Andy said some pretty controversial things about logos this week... You should probably listen to find out what he said.

Episode 153 Fight The Chaos

February 11th, 2016

Recorded February 11th, 2016. Andy tells us how planning a murder mystery party is like design... and more logo vs. interface followup.

Episode 150: Talent And Other Diseases

January 16th, 2016

Recorded January 17th, 2016. This week Andy and Matt sat at a table and talked about talent.

Episode 149: Double Back

January 13th, 2016

Recorded January 14th, 2016. This week Andy brought in some real work for us to discuss.

Episode 148: Window Shopping

January 7th, 2016

Recorded January 7th, 2016. This week Andy finally gave in and decided to create a portfolio for Friends of the Web.

Episode 147: Feedback Wanted

December 23rd, 2015

Recorded December 23rd, 2015. In our last episode of the year we responded to listener comments about how to improve the show.

Episode 146 - Things That Are Good

December 15th, 2015

Recorded December 15th, 2015. This week Andy digs in on an idea from the previous episode: Can anything ever be objectively good or bad?

Episode 145: Finding The Thread

December 9th, 2015


Recorded December 9th, 2015. This week we talked about designing something timeless... or at least designing something _you_ can live with forever.

Episode 144 - Comptroller Cant Say

December 1st, 2015

Recorded December 1st, 2015. This week we talked about tradition and Andy's secret plans to run for office.

Episode 143: Time Zones

November 23rd, 2015


Recorded November 24th, 2015. This week: Design as a luxury service and what happens when you can't afford it.

Thing Explainer
What If? Book
What If? Blog

Episode 142: Avatar

November 17th, 2015

Recorded November 17th, 2015. We discussed the symbols we create and rally around. And more on the next great American invention.

Episode 141: My Jacket

November 10th, 2015

Recorded November 10th, 2015. This week we discussed the next great American invention and the aesthetics of wealth.

Episode 140: Drawing Realistic Apples

November 5th, 2015

Recorded November 5th, 2015. Exhaustion, Leases, Art, Madden and robot video games as a form of self-expression.

Episode 139: Getting To The Bottom Of Dan

October 27th, 2015

Recorded October 27th, 2015. This week we interviewed Dan.

Episode 137: Five Stars Or Nothing

October 7th, 2015

Recorded October 8th, 2015. This week we were joined again by Maurice Cherry. We talked about podcast accessibility and how designers deal with real …

Episode 136 - Too Much To Ask

October 6th, 2015

Recorded October 6th, 2015. This week, a little bit of follow up from the previous episode, and Andy wonders how much you can really ask of your …

Episode 135: Lingo Bingo

October 1st, 2015

Recorded October 1st, 2015. This week we discussed the process of starting a new project, explaining how we want to work, and the language we use to …

Episode 134: Brought to you by...

September 24th, 2015

Recorded September 24th, 2015. This week: a very topical podcast about ad blocking.

Episode 133: Andysplaining

September 14th, 2015

Recorded September 15, 2015. A nice man from Baltimore over explains nostalgia and his work.

Episode 132: Exposure

September 8th, 2015

Recorded September 8, 2015. This week Dan made some music for the show, we started a new made-up segment, and Andy wonders how dangerous exposure to …

Episode 131: Emotionally Invested

September 3rd, 2015

Recorded September 3rd, 2015. This week we got to hear some follow up about Andy's presentation and we discussed getting emotionally invested in …

Episode 130: Storytelling

August 29th, 2015

Recorded August 29th, 2015. This week we talked about taking on side projects and experimental work.

Episode 128: Because I Said So

August 13th, 2015

Recorded August 13th, 2015. This week we talked about frustrating disagreements about taste, how you justify your decisions and objective rules of …

Episode 127 - Design/Lead

August 5th, 2015

Recorded August 6th, 2015. This week we talked about the traits that make a great designer and the traits that make a great leader. Do they …

Episode 126: Complicated And Special

July 29th, 2015


Recorded July 30th, 2015. This week we talked about simplifying complex things... Or maintaining complexity.

Everyday Carry
WASP Injection …

Episode 121: Minecraft Part 2

July 25th, 2015

Recorded June 25th 2015. Andy, Satchell, and Dan return to Minecraft for part two of their journey.

Episode 125: Growth And Frivolity

July 20th, 2015

Recorded July 20th, 2015. This week: What if the economy of design rewarded different kinds of work? And what might that look like?

Episode 124: Everything is Systems

July 15th, 2015


Recorded July 16th, 2015. This week we talked about credit cards, governments, religions, mattresses, businesses a.k.a. systems.

Cashback …

Episode 123: Show Your Work

July 9th, 2015

Recorded July 9th, 2015. This week Dan is out but Andy and I are here to talk about portfolios and the merits of showing your work publicly.

Episode 122: Grid Boundaries

July 2nd, 2015

Recorded July 2nd, 2015. This week we talked about responsive design rules and grid systems on the web.

Episode 120: Minecraft Part 1

June 18th, 2015

Recorded June 18th 2015. Matt's out of town, so Andy and Dan play hooky and jump into Minecraft with our guest Satchell Drakes.

Episode 119: Holds Water

June 9th, 2015

Recorded June 9th, 2015. We were joined by guest Kristy Tillman.

Episode 117: David Bowie And Husky Dogs

May 26th, 2015

Recorded May 26th, 2015. This week we talked about Andy's idea for design types in education and criticism. How the new Apple emoji got their skin tones
Roderick on the Line
Types of Literary Criticism

Episode 116 - The Extra Mile

May 19th, 2015

Recorded May 19th, 2015. We had our first chat since a great meetup and a conversation about the unquantifiable things that make something great. Hotter Keys on Kickstarter
A Game for Learning Keyboard Shortcuts by …

Episode 114: Falling Flat

May 7th, 2015

Recorded May 7th, 2015. We were joined by Eli Schiff to talk about his blog series Fall of the Designer. Also, New Yorkers, listen up for details …

Episode 113: In Poor Taste

April 30th, 2015

Recorded April 30th, 2015. This week, the exciting conclusion of Andy Gets a Vice, and we talk about bad taste. Bad Taste video by The School of Life

Episode 111: Creating A Disaster

April 15th, 2015

Recorded April 15th, 2015. We had to finish our conversation about the finest bad movie ever made: The Room. Why?
Tommy Wiseau and Why I left Creative Writing to Pursue the Law
"Thank you to On The Grid, the podcast …

Episode 110: Meandering Delusions

April 9th, 2015

Recorded April 9th, 2015. We had a meandering conversation about cutting, printing, patents, and permits. And then we talked about what we can learn from bad movies. New-Skin Liquid Bandage
Not second skin The …

Episode 109: Next Level

March 31st, 2015


Recorded April 2nd, 2015. Satchell Drakes joined us to talk about constantly striving to get better and live streaming on Twitch.

Satchell Drakes

Satchbag's Goods on Youtube

Cinephilia Anonymous

Rebecca Minkoff Connected …

Episode 104: Chaos Muppet

March 26th, 2015


Recorded February 26, 2015. This week we tried to talk about basic income, but we ended up talking about our motivation to create.


Giant Bomb

Episode 106 - Humbled

March 12th, 2015

Recorded March 12th, 2015. We talked about our experiences freelancing as students in high school and college. Was that such a good idea? Soundboard …

Episode 105: Idiot Thought Leaders

March 5th, 2015

Recorded March 5th, 2015. We talked about designers as philosophers... or preachers, our new show artwork, and our early attempts at being thought leaders. Mike Monteiro Keynote from Interaction15 Frank Chimero: Do …

Episode 103 - Homogeneity

February 17th, 2015

Recorded February 17th, 2015. This week we were joined by Maurice Cherry to discuss diversity in design. Revision Path Black Weblog Award The …

Episode 101: Unfair Advantage

February 4th, 2015

Recorded February 5th, 2015. This week we talked about the podcast StartUp, growing podcasts, and prototyping. Julian Edelman's Playoff Beard

Episode 100: Growing Up

January 28th, 2015


Recorded January 29th, 2015. It's our 100th episode and it turns out that we weren't right about everything.

Soundboard Dan

Two Things 2: A Curse and a Shapeshifter


Matt get defensive on Episode 22


Hessian …

Episode 99: A Recipe For

January 21st, 2015


Recorded on January 22nd, 2015. Matt and Andy talked about stoves and recipes. Oh and Dan was away so Soundboard Dan joined us as a guest.

Tall Chess

Episode 98: Singular Vision

January 15th, 2015

Recorded on January 15th, 2015. This week we talked about creators with singular visions... and how they may destroy their own creations. Our new …

Episode 97: Bouba Kiki

January 7th, 2015


Recorded January 8th, 2015. This week the topic came up AFTER the Happy Ending. We talked about beauty.


College Football Playoff National …

Episode 94: House Rules

December 11th, 2014


Recorded December 11th, 2014. This week we discussed automating your home and buying things that last. Also, wood oil.

Pineapple Express

First Year in …

Episode 93: Last Line Of Defense

December 3rd, 2014

Recorded December 4th, 2014. This week we discussed whether ethics are inherent in design. Will the Justice Department expeditiously investigate …

Episode 92: Contributor

November 25th, 2014


Recorded November 25th, 2014. This week we discussed Contributor by Google and ways to advertise on the web.

The National Bar Association Responds to …

Episode 91: Separating

November 19th, 2014


Recorded November 19th, 2014. This week we talked about using Uber and separating the art from the artist.

Craig Mod - Let’s Fly

The moment I learned just how far Uber will go to silence journalists and attack women

Episode 90: The Dolphin Variant

November 13th, 2014

Recorded November 13th, 2014. This week we talked about the super rich and A/B testing. Dayswork Launches Archived: Millionaires24

Email for the Rich

Email for the Rich on TechCrunch Christian Schwartz - Luxury …

Episode 89: Radar

November 6th, 2014

Recorded November 6th, 2014. We discussed Samaritans Radar and designing for sensitive issues. Samaritans Radar #SamaritansRadar Joe Lanman's problem with Samaritans Radar More reactions to Radar Jam

The digital …

Episode 88: Hype

October 29th, 2014


Recorded October 30th, 2014. This week we talked about hype men and your chances of winning the lottery.

Dan and Matt's Twitter Exchange

The Rap Board

James Brown's hype man


Darius Kazemi at XOXO Festival …

Episode 87 - Infinite Monkey Theorem

October 21st, 2014

Recorded October 22nd. This week we talked about Andy possibly becoming a homeowner and naming. Dan’s old Surge tall boy Tontine Tall Chess

Episode 86: Fusion

October 14th, 2014


Recorded October 16th, 21014.
We make a big announcement and discuss online abuse.

Studies for new Podcast Artwork

Solve for X: Charles Chase on energy …

Episode 85: No Limit

October 7th, 2014


Recorded October 9th, 2014

This week we talked about sticking to a process and saying no. Also, Dan is looking for another designer at FitMob. You …

Episode 84: Big In Germany

October 1st, 2014


Recorded October 2nd, 2014

This week we wondered why we're talking about Ello and Adobe let us see a slide deck preview of this Keynote on Thursday.

ExtractBehance Talent SearchShape




Episode 83: Office Space

September 23rd, 2014


Recorded September 25th, 2014

This week we answered some listener mail about the spaces we work in and how we design our lives.

Note: the audio issues early in the episode only last for the first minute.

Episode 82: Dan Auer Could Be Banksy

September 16th, 2014


recorded September 18th, 2014

This week we talked about symbols... or people. Also:


Desert Golfing


I’m leaving Mojang

This is Phil …

Episode 81: Praiseworthy

September 10th, 2014


Recorded September 11, 2014

This week, Andy talks to us about the closing of Berg

Apple Watch & Custom typeface

Berg closes

Little Printer

Other …

Episode 80: Die Neue Web Typographie

September 3rd, 2014


recorded September 4th, 2014

This week we talked about subjective vs. objective design decisions and:

Proof of Dan’s PAX Story

Twitter changes font …

Episode 79: Average Confidence

August 27th, 2014


Recorded August 29th, 2014

Matt was on vacation Dan and Andy talked to Mills Baker about Confidence and: 

How to Be Polite


Jonah Peretti

Episode 78: Unqualified

August 20th, 2014


August 21st, 2014

Grouper eats 4ft shark in one bite:

Milwaukee Police Department:

Episode 77: Contested

August 13th, 2014


August 14th, 2014

This week Andy shared an experiment with us and we discussed:

The $5 Logo

Dan Cassaro doesn’t work for free

Andy’s contest page on …

Episode 74: Better Judgement

July 24th, 2014


July 24, 2014

This week we talked about criticism and judgement. Also:


Tuft & Needle

The Disapproval Matrix

Design Observer

Medium / 

Episode 73: The Stories We Tell Ourselves

July 17th, 2014


Recorded on July 17th, 2014

This week we talked about launching new identities, telling stories, and:

Video Games: The Movie

The International Dota 2 …

Episode 72: Turning The Knobs

July 3rd, 2014


recorded July 3rd, 2014

This week we talked about Facebook's emotional contagion experiment. Also:

Game of Thrones Cosplay


What the Facebook …

Episode 71: Forever The Devil's Advocate

June 26th, 2014


recorded June 26th, 2014

This week Emily Haasch of Cards Against Humanity joined us for an hour to talk about place and social design. We mentioned:

Svpply shutting down

Kickstarter for new Svpply

The Return of …

Episode 70: Pinspiration

June 19th, 2014


recorded June 19th, 2014

This week we answered a listener email about inspiration. We mentioned:

No Man’s Sky

Harley-Davidson Project Livewire

DesignLab at MailChimp


Graphic Ambient

EyesEyes, and Filters

Episode 69: On the Leading

June 15th, 2014


recorded June 15th, 2014

Andy couldn’t make it this week, so we were joined by Aaron Heth, who used to co-host Read Between the Leading with Matt, …

Episode 67: Playgrounds

June 5th, 2014


recorded June 5th, 2014

This week we talked about Apple's WWDC event and learning in designed systems.

Why Apple's New Font Won't Work On Your Desktop

Apple Swift

The Swift Programming Language eBook

Why's (Poignant) …

Episode 68: The Distant Future

May 29th, 2014


recorded May 29, 2014

This week we answered a listener’s email about designing for the near future. And hopefully our discussion extends to the …

Episode 66: It's A Pouch, Not A Hammer

May 22nd, 2014


recorded May 22nd, 2014

This week we discussed finding furniture and devices that are designed to disable technology.

This American Life: Except For …

Episode 65: Emoji Man Runs Away From Fire

May 18th, 2014


recorded May 18, 2014

This week we discussed haircuts, texting during an emergency and the death of Square Wallet.

You can text 911

The Murder of Kitty Genovese

99 Percent Invisible: Ten Thousand Years

On …

Episode 64: Survey Says

May 11th, 2014


recorded on May 11th, 2014

This week we addressed your responses to the survey that we mentioned on the past few episodes. If this is the first time you're listening the show, we'd recommend listening to a few previous …

Episode 63: Lose Your Seat

May 1st, 2014


recorded on May 1st, 2014

This week we talked about possible losing our seats.

Designer Duds



Paypal redesigns their homepage (not …

Episode 62: Clever

April 24th, 2014


recorded on April 24th, 2014

This week talked about clever design, social design, dogmas, fact checking and voting.

Everyone Deserves Great Design

Episode 61: Tourism

April 17th, 2014


recorded on April 17th, 2014

This week we talked about Mobb Deep and Dan’s true calling.

Prodigy Attacks Pitchfork After Receiving Perfect Score …

Episode 60: The Device Is The Message

April 13th, 2014


recorded on April 13th, 2014

This week we talked about the growing hill that is the web and the devices that shape our message.

Frank Chimero - Designing in the Borderlands

Chris Downey - Design with the Blind in Mind

Episode 59: Chiseling Away

April 3rd, 2014


recorded on April 3rd, 2014

Matt is back from vacation to follow up on Episode 36 about new design tools and then the open web vs. protecting your …

Episode 58: Rift

March 27th, 2014


recorded on March 27th, 2014

Matt was on vacation this week, so Andrew Simone joined Andy and Dan to talk about Oculus Rift.

Oculus joins Facebook

Episode 57: Wearing Out

March 20th, 2014


recorded on March 20th, 2014

This week we talked about wearables and manifestos.

Razer Nabu

Moto 360


Misfit Shine

First Things First 1964

First …

Episode 56: Bound 2

March 13th, 2014


recorded on March 13th, 2014

This week we talked about deadlines and the time needed for good design.

Amnesia Fortnight

Jaguars Helmet

Episode 55: Little Boxes

March 6th, 2014


This week we talk about patterns in web design and how to prevent our work from getting stagnate.

Frank Chimero’s new site

Episode 54: Code-switching

February 27th, 2014


This week we answered an email about designers learning to code.


Facebook’s Origami

Episode 51: They Took Our Jobs

February 6th, 2014


This week we answered an email about comparing your work to young designers and self doubt. (Also we talked about Flappy Bird before it was taken down)

Episode 50: Macklemore Is Candy Crush

January 30th, 2014


This week we talked about the Facebook Paper announcement, the grand vision, and real world universal appeal.

Pepsi Gate at MetLife Stadium

Facebook Paper

Candy Crush

Bar Rescue


Episode 49: Robodesigners

January 23rd, 2014


This week we talked about Squarespace Logo, the future according to the movie Her, and the breakup of H&FJ.

FitMob on TechCrunch

Squarespace Logo

The Noun Project

Why Her Will Dominate UI Design Even More Than …

Episode 46: 2013 In Design

December 28th, 2013


It’s our annual year in review show. We summarized 2013 in design and talked about the 3 topics that topped our lists.

2013 in Design thread on the Subreddit

Episode 47: Fuck It Lets Do It

December 19th, 2013


This week we were joined by Mitch Goldstein. Mitch has taught at RISD, MICA, VCU, and Rhode Island College. He currently teaches at RIT. You may also …

Episode 45: Player Piano

December 14th, 2013


This week we talked about class divides and how it’s addressed in the design community.

Protesters block Google bus in S.F. Mission

Startup CEO …

Episode 44: Utopia

December 5th, 2013


This week we talked about the all of those things designed to save world and how they’re taking over.

Andy saves Ted the Kitten

…another Ted photo

Episode 43: In Flux

November 24th, 2013


This week we were inspired to discuss two presentations from the 2013 Build Conference:

Frank Chimero: What Screens Want

David Cole: Applied Discover

Episode 40: Making The Team

October 31st, 2013


This episode we talked about work, life, teams, management, design, life, going it alone, work, and design. Anyways:

Psychological Pitfalls And …

Episode 39: The Teachings Of Mangold

September 11th, 2013


After an unintended hiatus, we are back discussing Andy’s new experiences teaching design and molding young minds.

Andy’s Guiding Principles

Episode 6: Skeuomorphonostalgism

August 25th, 2013


This week we talk about looking back, fearing the future, comedy’s similarity to design, and paving your own way.

Toxic Nostalgia

Obama’s …

Episode 38: The Dark Side

July 28th, 2013


We talk deception, compromise, and the most important thing in the world.

The slippery slope

Dark Patterns

Is this Apple Ad Nuts?

Episode 37: IveOS 7

June 24th, 2013


Apple introduces iOS 7. We tried not to post a knee-jerk reaction show, so we’re finally talking about it.

Apple iOS 7

Requiem for a Back Button

Fertile Ground

This episode of On the Grid is sponsored by Weapons of …

Episode 36: Tools Of The Trade

June 10th, 2013


Inspired by a conversation at bar… we discuss the tools we use to design.

Adobe CC makes us rethink our tools

Quartz Composer & Typecast exist

Episode 35: They Do Exist

May 27th, 2013


After some traveling and a long delay, we discuss… unicorns.

The Myth of the Myth of the Unicorn

Episode 31: Steal The Show

March 14th, 2013


This week we welcome guest Carolyn Williams to discuss the Veronica Mars Kickstarter and then move on to stealing.

The Veronica Mars Kickstarter

Flat …

Episode 28: Canned Brand

February 4th, 2013


This week we talked about the pre-made brand and Andy’s newfound interest in the Super Bowl Champion Ravens…

Episode 27: Identity Crisis

January 20th, 2013


This week we discussed two new identities, gender roles in design, and the state of graphic design criticism.

Sagmeister & Walsh’s New Identity

Episode 26: Certified

January 13th, 2013


This week we discussed certification, templates, automation, and Matt’s proposed standard for serving logos.

Should Graphic Designers be Certified?

Episode 24: 2012 In Design

December 29th, 2012


It’s our year end special. We discussed the events and issues that effected and shaped design this past year. We focused on three: The evolving …

Episode 22: UC What I Did There

December 11th, 2012


We spent most of the show talking about the new University Of California logo and reactions:

A Different Baton

Petition to Stop to the new UC logo

Episode 21: Fine Dining

November 29th, 2012


This week we rush to get everything done before Christmas, dine in the app store, and take note of our rosy red design lenses.

Modern Dog Fights the …

Episode 17: Heeeeres Jony

October 31st, 2012


Happy Halloween! This week we survived Hurricane Sandy and had a chat about the big three: Forstall is out and Jony Ive takes over at Apple, Windows 8 is here, and Google makes changes to Gmail.

@ComfortablySmug spreads …

Episode 16: Hitting Nails With Rocks

October 24th, 2012


After a week off, we talked about Matt’s trip to Orlando and…

Episode 15: Game Plan

October 9th, 2012


This week we spend the entire episode talking about authenticity in digital design.

On the Grid subreddit

The Flat Design Era

Episode 14: Flatline

October 3rd, 2012


This week we spend the entire episode talking about authenticity in digital design.

On the Grid subreddit

The Flat Design Era

Episode 13: For Whom The Maps Troll

September 25th, 2012


On this episode we talk about vaporware, web typography, and maps:

Kickstarter is not a store

Adobe/Typekit announces Adobe Edge Webfonts

Romney uses font without paying for a license: 1, 2, and 3

iOS Maps

Episode 12: Brand New Kung Fu

September 18th, 2012


On this episode we talk about tricking designers into redesigning your logo for free and:

The iPhone 5 released

eBay’s new logo

USA Today redesign

Kickstarter Vaporware

Episode 9: Waiting Online

September 12th, 2012


This week we talk about filtering your world, waiting in line and online, and the transition from physical to digital…. and back to physical.

Beware …

Episode 7: Squaring Up

August 29th, 2012


This week we talk about a redesign proposal for Wikipedia, Beck’s sheet music album, making rates public, and Square’s deal with Starbucks.

Wikipedia Redefined

Wikiweb App

Quora Feedback on Wikipedia Redefined

Beck to …

Episode 5: Build Destroy Build

August 14th, 2012


This week we discussed file systems, putting your ideas into the world, simplicity vs. complexity, and destroying your work for the sake of greatness.

Mountain Lion’s New File System

What’s with the anti-directory …

Episode 4: Free Doughnuts

August 11th, 2012


We’re going to be releasing a few episodes very quickly in order to catch up to real time. We had been recording a few weeks in advance, but we’re looking to be more timely, so our backlog is being released right now. …

Episode 3: Designing Economies

August 7th, 2012


This week we discussed corporate transparency, local retail and economic models.

Links Mentioned this Episode:

Andy Launches Wikiweb

McDonald’s …

Episode 2: A Public Outcry

July 31st, 2012


This week we discussed public reactions to design, critique in the modern day, and endless amounts of creative content on the internet.

Links …

Episode 1: Replacing Your Eyes

July 24th, 2012


We’re posting our pilot episode of On the Grid! We’ve been recording the show for a few weeks now, we’ve done tests that will probably never see the light of day, and we’re finally ready to launch episode one.

We plan …

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