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None Of The Above

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As the United States confronts an ever-changing set of international challenges, our foreign policy leaders continue to offer the same old answers. But what are the alternatives? In None Of The Above, the Eurasia Group Foundation’s Mark Hannah asks leading global thinkers for new answers and new ide… read more

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Losing China: Daniel Kurtz-Phelan on George Marshall’s Less Glorious Mission

May 24th, 2022

23:24

General George Marshall occupies a central place in the pantheon of American heroes. He helped lead the Allies to victory in World War II, and as the secretary of state, he championed the plan to rebuild Europe which …

War Stories: Brooke Gladstone and Fred Kaplan on the Media, War, and Ukraine

May 5th, 2022

36:43

From the Crimean War of 1853 to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine this year, journalists, reporters, and the media have shaped the public’s understanding of war. But do the stories we read and the photos we see provide an …

Tactical Brutality: Max Fisher on the Russian Way of War

April 21st, 2022

19:21
The Russian military withdrew from Bucha at the end of March, a suburb of Ukraine’s capital, Kyiv. Soon after, photos and stories revealed Russian atrocities, including the apparent intentional killing of civilians. …

Fuel to the Fire: Diego Luna and Ernesto López Portillo on the Rise of Militarism in Mexico

April 5th, 2022

32:12

In October 2021, the United States and Mexico put an end to the Mérida Initiative—a thirteen-year, $3 billion security assistance package central to a new “war on drugs.” Despite years of weapons sales, military …

War Power Politics (from the archive): Heather Brandon Smith & Rita Siemion on the rise and stall of AUMFs

March 22nd, 2022

31:51

Saturday marked the nineteenth anniversary of the beginning of the second Iraq War—a war Congress never formally declared. Instead, just like with America’s invasion of Afghanistan, Congress passed an Authorization for …

Winter in Ukraine: Anatol Lieven on the Case for Ukrainian Neutrality

March 9th, 2022

28:36

It is day fourteen of Russia’s war on Ukraine. Ukrainian resistance and Russian logistical issues have together denied Moscow a quick victory, but the fighting continues—and intensifies. Meanwhile, despite several …

Big Daddy Moscow: Nataliya Gumenyuk and Peter Pomerantsev Get Inside Putin’s Mind

February 22nd, 2022

32:23
This episode contains explicit language. On Monday, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops into eastern Ukraine. This follows months of …

China Rising Part 1 (from the archive): Isaac Stone Fish & Stephen Orlins on How the US Should Respond

February 8th, 2022

28:53

The 2022 Beijing Winter Olympics are underway and more than just athletic competition has drawn international attention. Amid calls for a complete boycott due to China’s crackdown on Hong Kong and its persecution of the …

How to End the Ukraine Crisis: Thomas Graham and Rajan Menon on Negotiating with Russia

January 25th, 2022

31:12

Eight years after it annexed Crimea and instigated a civil war in Eastern Ukraine, Russia has mobilized 100,000 troops near the Ukrainian border. With the threat of a Russian invasion looming, negotiations between …

The Myth of the Good War: Elizabeth Samet on American Nostalgia 

January 11th, 2022

19:34

World War II is nostalgically remembered throughout American culture as the “good war”––a conflict where Americans idealistically banded together to …

The Footprint of Industrialized War (from the archive)

December 21st, 2021

25:06

Speaking at the United Nations Climate Conference this November, President Biden called climate change “the existential threat to human existence.” …

Can a Summit Save Democracy? Michael Abramowitz on the Democracy Recession

December 7th, 2021

25:12

President Joe Biden argues the contest between democracy and autocracy will be the defining challenge of the twenty-first century. Meanwhile, Freedom House observes democracy around the world has experienced its …

Lessons from Recife: Riordan Roett on America’s Intervention in Brazil

November 23rd, 2021

31:33

As the United States competes for influence around the globe, and as authoritarianism gains ground in places like Brazil, what will US engagement in the region look like? US intervention and influence in the region is …

Airstrikes in East Africa (from the archive): Catherine Besteman and Amanda Sperber on U.S. Militarism in Somalia

November 9th, 2021

27:12
This week we bring back a timely episode from season 1 with journalist Amanda Sperber and anthropologist Catherine Besteman, who helped us understand …

The Powell Paradox: Ravi Agrawal on How Colin Powell’s Mixed Legacy Lives on in the Biden Era

October 26th, 2021

22:21

What impact did Colin Powell, America’s 65th secretary of state under President George W. Bush, who passed away last week, make on US foreign …

Insecure: Spencer Ackerman on How the War on Terror Destabilized America

October 12th, 2021

31:39
Although President Biden has ended the war in Afghanistan, America’s twenty-year global war on terror has not yet drawn to a close. Initiated by the Bush administration, and waged in various forms under four presidents, …

Episode 13: The Germany of Asia? (from the archive)

September 28th, 2021

22:56

Tensions have been high on the Korean Peninsula this past month. In mid-September, both North and South Korea tested ballistic missiles just hours …

Episode 12: Moscow Meddling

September 14th, 2021

21:56

Since the end of World War II, policymakers have puzzled over the proper way to approach Russia. U.S.-Russia relations have arguably deteriorated to …

Episode 11: Unlikely Alliance

August 31st, 2021

26:27

In April, President Biden announced he would withdraw all U.S. troops from Afghanistan. Within months, Afghanistan’s capital, Kabul, fell to the …

Episode 10: The Burden of American Power (from the archive)

August 17th, 2021

31:57

This week, we’re bringing back an episode from Season 1 with journalist and political analyst Peter Beinart. When we spoke with Peter last spring, we …

Episode 9: Linked Destinies

August 3rd, 2021

28:23

On July 1, the Communist Party of China celebrated its 100th anniversary. General Secretary Xi Jinping delivered a speech that unsettled some China …

Episode 8: In Spite of Hardliners

July 20th, 2021

28:14

President Biden campaigned on a swift return to the Iran nuclear deal. But with Iran freezing what have become laborious negotiations until the new hardline president, Ebrahim Raisi, takes office next month, the …

Episode 7: Reclaiming History (from the archive)

July 7th, 2021

32:18

This week, we’re bringing back another one of our favorite episodes from Season 2. When we sat down with Bishop Garrison last summer, he was directing national security outreach at Human Rights First. Today, Bishop’s …

Episode 6: The World We’ve Made

June 22nd, 2021

31:05

For many, America’s Cold War victory validated the country’s self-image as a “shining city upon the hill,” whose democratic ideals were worthy of …

Episode 5: Totalized War (from the archive)

June 8th, 2021

28:32

This week, we're bringing back one of our favorite episodes from Season 1. When we caught up with Rosa Brooks two summers ago, Donald Trump was president, and despite his stated desire to end endless wars, the …

Episode 4: Empty Promises

May 25th, 2021

28:00

In 2015, following Myanmar's first free election in a quarter-century, Western governments, including that of the United States, staked their hopes …

Episode 3: Illiberal Allies

May 12th, 2021

28:56

After the Cold War, many in the United States believed democracy was fait accompli around the world. Thirty years later, it is on shaky ground. U.S. …

Episode 2: Proven Right

April 27th, 2021

21:57

On September 14th, 2001, Congress passed a 60-word joint resolution granting President George W. Bush nearly unchecked authority to fight a “War on …

Episode 1: Beyond the Pacific

April 13th, 2021

25:26

President Biden came into office vowing to restore America’s longstanding alliances across the Atlantic. However, while Europe’s security relationship with the United States remains relatively strong, Europe’s economic …

Episode 18: Reflections From Mexico

March 30th, 2021

24:14

Mexico ought to occupy a prominent place on the list of America’s foreign policy priorities, given its proximity. Yet political leaders in the United …

Episode 17: Memories of Gitmo

March 16th, 2021

36:13

Few places in the world symbolize America’s “War On Terror” as poignantly as Guantanamo Bay. Opened in January 2002, the detention center has …

Episode 16: Should We Stay Or Should We Go?

March 2nd, 2021

28:55

In just two months, U.S. troops are slated to withdraw from Afghanistan per an agreement with the Taliban. It’s unclear whether President Biden will adhere to the terms of the agreement, or whether he’ll try to extend …

Episode 15: Can Europe Defend Itself?

February 16th, 2021

32:51

President Biden promises to restore and renew America’s commitment to NATO and its European allies. Supporters of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization argue Russian aggression compels continued American military …

Episode 14: Biden’s Foreign Policy Team

February 2nd, 2021

23:19

As the Biden administration takes shape, many wonder whether it will implement a truly progressive foreign policy agenda. President Biden’s early …

Episode 13: War Power Politics

January 19th, 2021

31:29

The so-called war on terror will soon be twenty years old -- and there is no end in sight. The legal basis for this endless war is grounded in two …

Episode 12: Countries in Glass Houses

January 13th, 2021

27:38

After the violent riots on Capitol Hill last Wednesday left America’s democratic institutions shaken, foreign policy leaders in Washington grappled …

Episode 11: Foreign Affairs Update

December 23rd, 2020

34:20

As Washington prepares to transition from a Trump to a Biden presidency, how might we expect America’s global role to change in the years ahead? This …

Episode 10: Militarizing Public Health?

December 8th, 2020

29:58

Multiple promising vaccines for the coronavirus are nearing FDA approval, and the United States is gearing up for widespread vaccination. While the …

Episode 9: Regime Change

November 24th, 2020

32:32


President-elect Joe Biden sees the world very differently than President Trump. He’s promised to reinvigorate diplomacy, and his approach to a range of pressing national security challenges – from Afghanistan to Iran to …

Episode 8: Will President Biden End The War?

November 10th, 2020

38:42

In February 2020, the U.S. government and the Taliban signed an agreement with steps to end the war in Afghanistan. With Intra-Afghan talks also underway between the Taliban and the Afghan government, the end to the war …

Episode 7: At the Crossroads (Again)

October 27th, 2020

26:48

The 2016 U.S. presidential election may have been the most divisive election in modern memory. The aftermath has left the United States in a period …

Episode 6: American Supremacy

October 14th, 2020

34:15

Historian Stephen Wertheim traces America’s decision for global military dominance back to World War II in a widely anticipated book published this …

Episode 5: With the World Watching

October 2nd, 2020

35:12

Commentators describe the first presidential debate of the 2020 general election as a "hot mess inside a dumpster fire," "a bad reality TV show," and …

Episode 4: Strange Bedfellows

September 15th, 2020

28:02

The United States has been mired in endless war for more than a generation. This week, journalist Glenn Greenwald of The Intercept sits down with the Eurasia Group Foundation’s Mark Hannah to discuss the true costs of …

Episode 3: Reclaiming History

September 1st, 2020

29:56

In the wake of protests surrounding the police killings of George Floyd and Breonna Taylor, America’s institutions are reckoning with their roles in …

Episode 2: The Atomic Bomb’s First Victims

August 18th, 2020

23:41

The U.S. bombed the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki 75 years ago this month. Although nuclear weapons haven’t been used in combat since, …

Episode 1: Endless War Comes Home

August 4th, 2020

29:10

In May 2020, the police killings of George Floyd and Breonna Taylor touched off some of the largest protests in U.S. history and shone a spotlight on …

Episode 26: Airstrikes in East Africa

May 28th, 2020

27:21

This episode marks the end of the first season of the Eurasia Group Foundation podcast, None Of The Above. We conclude our season with a topic that gets far too little attention in the mainstream media: the history of …

Episode 25: On Peace (and Pandemic) in Afghanistan

May 7th, 2020

31:35

In February, the Taliban and U.S. government signed a peace deal. The U.S. would draw down its troop presence and persuade the Afghan government to …

Episode 24: The Trump Doctrine?

April 22nd, 2020

34:52

Donald Trump ran his 2016 presidential campaign on ending America’s endless wars. But throughout his presidency, he has increased military deployments in the Middle East and threatened conflicts with Iran, Venezuela, …

Episode 23: What Do Hongkongers Want?

April 9th, 2020

29:33

Since 1997, Hong Kong has been a special administrative region of the People’s Republic of China. The freedoms China promised the people of this semi-autonomous region are slowly eroding. Throughout the year, …

Episode 22: The Washington Game

March 25th, 2020

33:24

In December 2019, The Washington Post obtained and published internal documents, now known as The Afghanistan Papers, from the Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction (SIGAR). These documents revealed …

Episode 21: The Burden of American Power

March 11th, 2020

31:53

Does American expansionism around the globe make the U.S. more powerful and influential? Does the U.S. gain by flexing its military muscle, or would …

Episode 20: Namaste, Trump

February 28th, 2020

23:26

On Monday, President Donald Trump and Indian prime minister Narendra Modi inked a new defense deal as violence escalated in response to Modi’s …

Episode 19: Primary Sources

February 12th, 2020

23:49

The conventional wisdom in Washington is that the typical American voter doesn’t know or care much about foreign policy. We at the Eurasia Group …

Episode 18: Changing The Status Quo

January 27th, 2020

30:26

In an era of intense political polarization, how can we bring people together and effect political change? This week, actor and comedian Kal Penn …

Episode 17: China Rising Part 2

January 8th, 2020

31:13

In October, two China experts joined None Of The Above to discuss Washington’s response to the rise of China. Today’s episode digs deeper and unpacks the very notion of great power competition, and whether America …

Episode 16: Peace, The Norm. War, The Exception.

December 13th, 2019

32:03

As the Cold War ended, many in the national security establishment thought history had ended: American-style democracy and capitalism were triumphal …

Episode 15: How to End an Empire

November 26th, 2019

26:54

What does the end of the "American empire" look like? What are other tools America can invest in? Kate Kizer joins EGF’s Mark Hannah to explore the …

Episode 14: Maximum Flexibility?

November 13th, 2019

31:54

Nuclear weapons are the forgotten existential threat. Yet, they can alter the course of history in an afternoon. Leading nuclear policy expert, Joe …

Episode 13: China Rising Part 1

October 30th, 2019

29:39

The foreign policy establishment sees America locked in a fierce and strategic competition with China. With the ongoing trade war, the protests …

Episode 12: Profiting From War

October 14th, 2019

27:12

America continues its unwavering devotion to Saudi Arabia, despite the gruesome murder of Jamal Khashoggi and the humanitarian catastrophes in Yemen. …

Episode 11: The Footprint of Industrialized War

September 27th, 2019

24:25

The Pentagon identifies climate change as a threat multiplier and links climate change to rising instability and insecurity around the globe. But …

Episode 10: Deploying Empathy

September 5th, 2019

27:40

Chances are, empathy is not the first thing you think about when you consider the ideal mix of skills and attributes of American soldiers. Yet the …

Episode 9: Totalized War

August 13th, 2019

25:46

What happens when the distinction between war and peace starts to disappear? Rosa Brooks, a law professor and former top Pentagon official, explores the causes and consequences of this alarming trend, and discusses its …

Episode 8: Foreign Policy Adrift

July 29th, 2019

28:58

What do the American people think about America's role in the world?  Many foreign policy experts assume the public just doesn't care very much about …

Episode 7: Power Passing

July 12th, 2019

29:05

The United States and the United Kingdom have historically had a special relationship. Can this kind of enduring alliance be replicated, and if not, why not? As American hegemony wanes and China’s international …

Episode 6: Of Hell and Hegemony

June 24th, 2019

24:35

For decades, America has pursed a foreign policy of liberal hegemony: the idea that the U.S. should use its power to spread values like freedom and …

Episode 5: A Fitter Force

June 10th, 2019

23:56

A new generation of military veterans who fought in the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq confronts new challenges. News reports emphasize the trauma and loss associated with military service. But Kayla Williams, who served …

Episode 4: The Art of the (Iran Nuclear) Deal

May 30th, 2019

33:43

After the Trump administration withdrew the U.S. from the Iran nuclear deal and imposed the toughest ever sanctions against the Tehran, it seems to many that the president is seeking a pretext for war. Trump threatened …

Episode 3: Engaging the Enemy

April 27th, 2019

21:16

As the U.S. seeks a resolution to America’s longest war, we’re joined by Chris Kolenda, the first American to have both fought against—and then …

Episode 2: The Germany of Asia?

April 24th, 2019

22:45

Donald Trump and Kim Jong Un clearly have a complicated relationship. Former CIA analyst Sue Mi Terry makes the case for reunification of the Korean …

Episode 1: The Problem of Our Power

April 19th, 2019

20:09

Our first episode confronts the paradox of America’s military might. As the Cato Institute’s Chris Preble sees it, exorbitant spending on national defense actually makes America less safe. We examine the historical …

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