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Money In, Money Out

40 EpisodesProduced by Susan E GunnWebsite

All 21st Century healthcare practices (dental, veterinary, chiropractic, and medical) use two software for a complete accounting system.Based on over 24 years of guiding these practices to a greater understanding in their financial organization and flow, and the book of the same name, Susan Gunn bri… read more


Whistling Dixie in Dentistry

In response to a recent dental industry magazine article regarding whistleblowers in the dental industry, Susan has invited colleagues Teresa Duncan and Kevin Henry to discuss this delicate issue.

Episode Highlights

  • What is a whistleblower?
  • Varieties of whistleblowing 
  • Preventing claims
  • Hiring for heartbeats is dangerous
  • Coding 


“You don’t just blow the whistle and get a check.” 

“You are gathering the information in the name of the greater good and protecting kids that may have been subject to what they are doing.” 

“If you are going to report you should do it while you are there, otherwise it may look like retaliation.”

“If you are trying to avoid this situation, the best thing you can do as a practice owner is not be shady.” 

“There is no silver bullet. If they want to do something, they will do it anyway.” 

“Susan, you are the queen of difficult conversations when it comes to this stuff.”

“If you have a patient that is unhappy, and you think there is going to be something to report, get in front of that.”

“Let's be honest, some practice owners may not know this is happening.” 

“Don’t just hire anyone with a heartbeat, look at their references and experience.” 

“I think the next 2-3 years for embezzlement is going to be interesting, I think I am going to be very busy.” 

“I've got my ear to the ground, listening to the hoofbeats in the distance and I think it is going to be a stampede.” 

“You need to make sure your documentation can support the code being used.” 

“If you take one thing from this podcast is that if you see something, don’t just go rant about it on Facebook and air your dirty laundry.” 

Links & Resources 

Highlighting the Not-So-Ethical Shady Dental Practice 

Nobody Told Me That Podcast 

Chew On This Podcast

Dental Assistant Nation 

Extraordinary Circumstances: The Journey of a Corporate Whistleblower by Cynthia Cooper

Susan’s Website:  (sign up for the newsletter)

SGS Phone:  888-994-3167

Book Money In, Money Out: Financial Organization In Your Practice 

Book Getting The Most Out of QuickBooks In Your Practice  

Book Advanced QuickBooks In Your Practice  

Ask The Expert Online Consultation 

Money In, Money Out Lies Breed Lies Episode: SBA EIDL & PPP Fraud

Money In, Money Out Fruitcakes & Fraud: The Collin St. Bakery Embezzlement

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