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Money In, Money Out

45 EpisodesProduced by Susan E GunnWebsite

All 21st Century healthcare practices (dental, veterinary, chiropractic, and medical) use two software for a complete accounting system.Based on over 24 years of guiding these practices to a greater understanding in their financial organization and flow, and the book of the same name, Susan Gunn bri… read more

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Hire Train Retain

November 17th, 2022


Stacie Humbles, Principal at Susan's alma mater, Arlington High School, has led the charge at analyzing the affects of the past two years not only on …

In The Embezzlement News: NonProfits, Bookkeepers & Tax Preparers

October 17th, 2022


We have handpicked another round of a few dumbfounding DOJ fraud cases involving nonprofits, bookkeepers and tax preparers! Join us as we explore …

Saving Cents with Common Sense

October 3rd, 2022

In light of the recent interest rate increases, in light of the potential of a financial crisis, in light of any future crisis, there are some common sense issues you need to be aware of and tasks to implement. Let's …

In The Embezzlement News: Can’t Make This Up - Insurance Fraud

July 11th, 2022


As Certified Fraud Examiners, Janice Janssen and Susan Gunn bring you stories straight from the headlines of those who have chosen to commit fraud. …

In The Embezzlement News: The Chrisley’s - Do They Know Best?  

June 28th, 2022


One of Susan’s speaking presentations is called Unrelenting Greed. In not one of her embezzlement cases has the embezzler truly been in need, in dire …

Today We Remember

May 25th, 2022


In this episode, Susan Gunn shares her personal thoughts around  those lives not to be forgotten on Memorial Day.  Do not let Memorial Day be the only day you pay respects to our fallen heroes and pray for those they …


March 10th, 2022


Following up on securing our work internet from cyber attacks, the fundamentals of protecting your home against cyber attacks are within your grasp …


March 8th, 2022


With much anticipation of imminent cyber warfare attacks increasing from Russia, in the midst of the ongoing onslaught of the Ukraine, out of a sense of urgency the next two podcasts were recorded. If you have not …

To Whom Much Is Given

December 20th, 2021


Susan is no stranger to the devastation of tornadoes so when tornadoes deeply wounded familiar territory, it was time to state the obvious: it is going to take a lot of resources to help those affected recover and we …

Holiday Edition: Fruitcakes and Fraud

December 6th, 2021


In this episode Susan details the case of the Collin Street Bakery embezzlement with Teresa Duncan of Nobody Told Me That Podcast! It was a small …

Enticing or Frightening - IT”S A SCAM!

October 11th, 2021


In The Embezzlement News with Janice Janssen 

Everyone is a target for a well run scam. These scams are delivered to our unfiltered ears via in person, telephone, email and snail mail - any form of communication. 

The Importance of Team Dynamics

September 20th, 2021


The final batter at Globe Life Park for the 2010 American League Championship was Susan’s favorite personal moment of baseball. What do those winning moments teach us about Team Dynamics, which make the losing moments …

Whistling Dixie in Dentistry

September 6th, 2021


In response to a recent dental industry magazine article regarding whistleblowers in the dental industry, Susan has invited colleagues Teresa Duncan …

Unforced Errors in Business

August 23rd, 2021


Unforced errors happen in every sport but did you know that unforced errors also happen in your business? There is so much to learn from sports and during recovery for my total knee replacement this summer, I watched …

In The Embezzlement News with Janice Janssen: Intriguing PPP & EIDL Loan Frauds

June 7th, 2021


Straight from news headlines, PPP & EIDL frauds abound. It seems that the offer of financial assistance meant to help struggling businesses has brought out the worst in some people.

This week on Money In Money Out, …

Working with Your CPA Should NOT Be Painful

May 24th, 2021


A businesses’ financial reports should contain accurate information and be easy to understand your business Money In, and Money Out. 

With four of …

Put Me In Coach with Lynne Leggett

April 26th, 2021


Sports has taught many of us invaluable lessons that we carry on throughout our lives. Some players become coaches themselves, Lynne Leggett, CEO of Victory Dental Management, being one of them.


Lynne has coached …

Money Left on the Table with Teresa Duncan and Dana Moss

April 13th, 2021


If you are a practice that accepts insurance, you will not want to miss this episode. Susan Gunn is joined by returning guest Teresa Duncan, MS and Dana Moss, to discuss insurance, highlighting ways to save you money …

In The Embezzlement News with Janice Janssen: Faking Cancer for Gain

March 29th, 2021


In the news several years ago was an embezzler who faked cancer to try and get out of her prosecution. Janice and Susan could not believe those …

Courageous Conversations Best Not To Avoid with Katherine Eitel Belt

March 15th, 2021


Conflict. This past year has been packed with drama and conflict. 2020 reads like a well written novel. Enter the protagonist, aka COVID-19, who stirred up all sorts of angst and conflict amongst family, friends and …

Rare Words (and actions) that start with Ph, like Philanthropy with Theresa Narantic

March 1st, 2021


This past year has been like no other. And the needs of those around us have been great. Businesses have closed their doors and employees are left without a means to put food on the table or pay their rent or utilities.

Highlighting the Not-So-Ethical Shady Dental Practice with Teresa Duncan

February 15th, 2021


This week on Money In Money Out, Susan Gunn welcomes back her friend and colleague Teresa Duncan, MS speaker and owner of Odyssey management to …

In The Embezzlement News: Dixon, IL with Janice Janssen

February 1st, 2021


This week on Money In Money Out, Susan Gunn is joined by Janice Janssen for another episode of In The Embezzlement News!  This embezzlement scandal …

How Do The Wealthy Become Affluent?

January 18th, 2021


Kate Willeford, CPA joins Susan to discuss the classic financial psychology book, The Millionaire Next Door by William D. Danko, PhD and Thomas J. …

Leading The Way Into The 2021 Unknown with Katherine Eitel Belt

January 4th, 2021


Opening the new year, Susan is joined with podcast guest Katherine Eitel Belt to talk about being a leader in the midst of all the unknowns of 2021! How do we best apply the leadership lessons learned in 2020 to lead …

Closing Out The Year with Kate Willeford

December 21st, 2020


In this episode, Susan is closing out 2020 the way she started it, with her friend and colleague, Kate Willeford, CPA. Susan and Kate talk about the …

Lies Breed Lies

December 7th, 2020


In this episode Susan talks with us about the rationale of those who embezzle. Inspired by two articles Susan read lately, Susan takes a hard look at just a small fraction of the CARES Act fraud cases. We see how lies …

How To Plan for 2021 Success During A Pandemic with Debbie Castagna.

November 23rd, 2020


In this episode, Susan is joined by internationally recognized speaker and consultant, and dear friend, Debbie Castagna, to talk about "How To Plan …

Payment For Service - What A Concept!

November 9th, 2020


In this episode Susan is joined by Linda Valencia and Jody Catalanello from Mosaic Management Group to discuss patient collections! Now is the time …

Get A Grasp Of The Obvious

October 26th, 2020


In this episode, Susan is joined by long time friend and well known colleague, Sandy Pardue of Classic Practice Resources, to talk about hot topics! …

Following Your Passion To Build A Viable Business

October 12th, 2020


In this episode, Susan shares with us heartwarming stories of her colleague and dear friend, Sally McKenzie, who passed suddenly September 1. Sally …

Not All Banks Are Created Equally!

September 7th, 2020


In recent months, Susan has discovered many banks not offering standard digital services: accessibility to account statements, check/deposit detail, download capability, etc.. 

There is much to be learned about …

Assuming Payroll Tax Deferral Liability?

September 4th, 2020


Are you thinking of implementing the payroll tax deferrals in your business?  

You will want to listen to this quick up-to-date podcast with insights …

Thinking Outside The Box

August 24th, 2020


Susan believes businesses grow by evaluating what has made other businesses successful. This episode gives insight to Jazzy Jems, a successful …

Do You Have A Little Stress In Your Life Right Now???

August 13th, 2020


If you have not had a little stress in your life this year, you have lived under a rock! Life Change Units (LCUs) have never been higher in our lives but what does this mean?

Then add conflicts with each other. Listen …

Choosing To Embezzle: What Were They Thinking?

July 29th, 2020


This is a difficult conversation to have but you need to hear it.

If you own a practice for 30 years, SOMEONE that you trust will embezzle from you. …

Organize & Vitalize Your Workflow Space

July 10th, 2020


Many workers have found themselves suddenly working from home, in a very incongruous work environment. And many more have found themselves cleaning and rearranging their homes and work spaces. Suddenly, the walls we …

Overseeing Practice Revenue - What's Changed?

June 17th, 2020


Learning to be nimble is what Virginia Moore of Moore Practice Consulting wisely recommends when she joins Susan for this candid discussion regarding …

Your Best Year Yet?

May 21st, 2020


Most everyone I have spoken with in the past few months have declared this was going to be their best year yet in their business, whatever business they owned. 

Then the robust economy was shut down and income slowed to …

Seeing Patients Again - Not as Easy as it Sounds

April 24th, 2020


As practices are reopening, please be aware not all your patient's insurance may be intact as it was their last visit.

Guest Teresa Duncan of Odyssey Management, is the dental community's insurance expert, author of

What Now: What can you control?

April 11th, 2020


The average business owner's brain these past few weeks has been working overtime trying to figure out what they need to do. In healthcare (dentists, veterinarians, chiropractors, and medical practices), that list has …

It's No April Fools: COVID-19 Relief Money

April 1st, 2020


With a bipolar stock market, there are so many questions with very limited answers. And we cannot see the light at the end of the tunnel just yet.

More From The Twilight Zone

March 27th, 2020


Join Susan & Kate for more helpful information during these truly twilight zone moments. Learn the up to date information on

  • SBA loan options

The CoronaVirus Twilight Zone Episode

March 18th, 2020


"... You've just crossed over into the Twilight Zone..." 

Much has changed since Susan & Kate talked last week. This week, many dental practices are being requested to shut down. What are the things they need to …

Is The Sky Really Falling?

March 14th, 2020


Doom and gloom. Gloom and doom.

Susan launches the Money In, Money Out podcast series in a very unprecedented time. Joined by Guest Kate Willeford, CPA, they both offer some great tips to consider these next few weeks …

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