Cover art for podcast Meaning What

Meaning What

50 EpisodesProduced by it's no sam studiosWebsite

The way people talk about fine art sucks, but it doesn't have to. Every Thursday join Mason Hershenow (a classically-trained photographer and educator), Sean Ang (a classically-trained violinist and vocalist), and Christopher Scott McNeill (a freelance writer and journalist) as they discuss the art … read more

episodes iconAll Episodes

Point Break

July 29th, 2021


It's that Meaning What Movie Club time again, folks. This month we're discussing the 1991 cops-and-robbers-who-are-also-surfers blockbuster Point …

BONUS: Thanks India!

July 27th, 2021


Welcome to a special preview episode of our Patreon-only podcast The Subscription Show! Enjoy and we'll see you again on Thursday for our regularly …

Spy Movies

July 22nd, 2021


This week we're looking at secret agents in cinema. From the genre-defining silliness of Sean Connery's James Bond to the shaky-cam-defining realism …

East, West, & Twelve Bronze Heads

July 15th, 2021


This week, we discuss the tenuous relationship between the Western fine art market and the People's Republic of China. We cover the Old Summer Palace bronze heads, why westerners find it easy to love Ai Weiwei, and the

Hudson River School & Manifest Destiny

July 8th, 2021


This week we discuss one of the United States' first fine art movements—the Hudson River School—and it's inextricable relationship with Manifest …

Play Up – Hiatus

July 3rd, 2021


In his special segment Play Up, Meaning What producer and co-host Christopher Scott McNeill explores unique and innovative storytelling in video games. This month, Chris has a message about his recent experience video …

Apple Podcasts

July 1st, 2021


Last month we were removed from Apple Podcasts without warning or meaningful explanation. What followed was a short-lived tour through some of the …

Kiss Kiss Bang Bang

June 24th, 2021


For the Pride Month edition of the Meaning What Movie Club, we watched Shane Black's 2005 dark comedy Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. It's not a perfect film, but it does feature arguably the first favorable depiction of a gay man …

Pirates of the Crystal Void

June 21st, 2021


This episode contains mature content.

Last week saw us briefly booted from Apple Podcasts (more on that later), so here is the episode we were going to put out on 6/17 but didn't get to for various reason.

On today's …

Fine Art & Queer Censorship

June 10th, 2021


This episode contains explicit content that is meant for neither work nor children.

It's Pride Month, round two! This week, Mason and Sean are discussing the history of censorship of LGBTQ+ art from Robert Mapplethorpe

Listen Now! – K-Pop

June 5th, 2021


Welcome to Listen Now!, a monthly mini-podcast from it's no sam studios hosted by Meaning What producer and cohost Sean Ang.

This week, Sean provides a crash course in K-pop and the ways it reimagines and subverts …

Welcome to Pride Month

June 3rd, 2021


June is LGBTQ Pride Month! This week, Mason and Sean are introducing our month-long discussion of LGBTQIA+ issues in the arts with a conversation about the annual Pride Parades: their history, their contemporary …


May 27th, 2021


It's the Meaning What Movie Club! As AAPI Heritage Month draws to a close, Mason and Sean are visited by our good friend Hicham Benhallam (in his …

Kathleen Larsen

May 20th, 2021


This week, Mason and Sean are joined by abstract painter Kathleen Larsen to discuss how personal experiences and the events of the past year or so brought about a new direction for her art practice. We also discuss the …

Asian Culture in Western Art

May 13th, 2021


Mason and Sean return for part two of AAPI Heritage Month with an episode examining the outsized influence of Japanese art and Asian culture in …

Play Up – To the Moon

May 8th, 2021


Play Up is a monthly segment where Meaning What producer and co-host Christopher Scott McNeill explores unique and innovative storytelling in video games. This month, Chris talks about Canadian game designer Kan Gao's 


May 6th, 2021


May is Asian and Pacific Islander Heritage Month in the United States, and Sean and Mason are kicking it off with a conversation about San Francisco's Chinatown. It's an ugly history, but there's no shortage of lessons …

Blazing Saddles!

April 29th, 2021


Welcome back to the Meaning What Movie Club! This month, Mason and Sean are joined by special guest Robert Hershenow to talk about the important, influential, geniusly stupid film Blazing Saddles. We all loved this …

The Oscars

April 23rd, 2021


Sean watched all but one of this year's nominees for Best Picture, so this week we're discussing the Academy Awards and all the things that they come …

Listen Now! – Serpentwithfeet

April 17th, 2021


Welcome to Listen Now!, a monthly mini-podcast from it's no sam studios hosted by Meaning What producer and cohost Sean Ang.

This week, Sean …

Crowdsurfing & the Millennial Layer Cake

April 15th, 2021


We are joined once again by our good friends Kim McMasters and Hicham Benhallam from the band Post Sixty Five. We discuss their latest release "Crowdsurfing" and how the pandemic helped shape it. 

We also discuss …

Andres Serrano's "Immersion" and Morality in Art

April 8th, 2021


Immersion (Piss Christ) is a 1987 photograph by Andres Serrano that helped Senator Jessie Helms realize his career-long dream of gutting the National Endowment for the Arts. It's a 60x40-inch Cibachrome print of a …


April 1st, 2021


Non-Fungible Tokens! You’ve probably heard about them, leading fine art auction houses Christie’s and Sotheby’s now sell them, and famed South African emerald mine heir/Tony Stark-wannabe Elon Musk loves them. They’re …

Play Up – Brothers: A Tale of Two Sons

March 27th, 2021


New segment alert!

Play Up is a monthly segment where Meaning What producer and co-host Christopher Scott McNeill explores unique and innovative storytelling in video games. This month, Chris reflects on the Starbreeze …

A Girl Walks Home Alone at Night

March 25th, 2021


Meaning What Movie Club: March Edition! This month, we discuss Ana Lily Amirpour's 2014 Iranian-American Vampire Western A Girl Walks Home Alone at Night. Celebrated upon its release for its unique visuals and …

The Grammys

March 18th, 2021


This week Mason, Sean, and Chris discuss the 63rd Annual Grammy Awards. They happened last Sunday and none of us actually watched the broadcast, but Sean really wanted to talk about them and they're "music's biggest …

Listen Now! – SOPHIE

March 14th, 2021


Welcome to Listen Now!, a monthly mini-podcast from it's no sam studios hosted by Meaning What producer and cohost Sean Ang.

Sean is joined by Alan Dill to discuss the life and legacy of the late, groundbreaking trans …

On Francesca Woodman & Respecting the Dead

March 11th, 2021


This week Mason, Chris, and Sean consider the work of posthumously-celebrated photographer Francesca Woodman and discuss our culture’s toxic habits …

Naomi Haverland

March 4th, 2021


This week, Mason and Sean speak to chalk artist and muralist Naomi Haverland about her practice, the influences of social media on her projects, and how public art has changed over the past year.

See more of Naomi's art …


February 25th, 2021


Welcome back to the Meaning What Movie Club! This month's film is Barry Jenkins' 2016 Academy Award winning film Moonlight. Mason, Sean, and Chris …

Welcome Back, Disco

February 18th, 2021


On today’s episode we discuss the rise and fall of disco, its relationship to race and sexuality in America, and what its reemergence in pop music …

Listen Now! – Love Songs

February 13th, 2021


Welcome to Listen Now!, a monthly mini-podcast from it's no sam studios hosted by Meaning What producer and cohost Sean Ang.

As you know, February is …


February 11th, 2021


This week Mason, Sean, and Chris discuss the legendary photography collective Magnum, the effects that recent reporting on sexual misconduct …

Zak Grafilo

February 4th, 2021


On today’s episode, Mason and Sean talk to violinist, educator, and arranger Zak Grafilo about his group The Alexander String Quartet, the unique …

Chungking Express

January 28th, 2021


Welcome to the first episode of the Meaning What Movie Club! This year Mason, Sean, and Chris will be ending each month by discussing a movie of …

The Very American Party

January 21st, 2021


Mason, Sean, and Chris celebrate our nation's new leaders with a discussion about presidential inaugurations and the people chosen to perform at …

Post Sixty Five

January 14th, 2021


This week Sean and Mason are joined by the band Post Sixty Five to talk about their latest single "Middle Child", as well as how personal …

Is Rothko Good?

January 7th, 2021


Welcome to season two! Sean and I begin the new year with a discussion about abstract art, the roles we play as viewers and consumers, and how …

The Devil's Advocate

December 17th, 2020


Today’s episode is our last for 2020, and with a new year approaching we thought we’d try something different. Join us for a discussion of the 1997 film The Devil’s Advocate and all the things it was trying so …

JP Ryan on Making Art in Your Own Space

December 10th, 2020


On today’s episode—our final interview of 2020—Mason talks to fine art photographer JP Ryan about pursuing photography at a state school, making art …

Christopher Scott McNeill on Leaving Out Your Own Story

December 3rd, 2020


This week, we talk to writer and journalist Christopher Scott McNeill about growing up and teaching Literature in the American South, working in the independent coffee scene in Sacramento, and how those experiences — …

A La Mode on Balancing Subversion and Success

November 21st, 2020


On today’s episode, we talk to drag performer A La Mode about how she got her start in drag, how the popularity of a certain show has changed the …

Megan Moriarty on Who Art School is Good For

November 12th, 2020


This week, Sean and I talk to visual artist Megan Moriarty about what grad school does to an art practice, what starting your career alongside a …

Alana Rios on Creating Work Where You Are

November 6th, 2020


On today’s episode, we talk to photographer Alana Rios about how the California landscape has shaped her art practice, the history and politics of …

Daniel Alejandro Trejo on Redefining Grad School

October 29th, 2020


This week, we talk to visual artist Daniel Alejandro Trejo about how his hometown and identity shape his art, reconsidering what graduate school …

Lee Hoffman on Identity and Pedagogy

October 22nd, 2020


On this week’s episode, we speak to vocalist and educator Lee Hoffman about her very personal journey in discovering her medium and what her medium has helped her discover about herself. Along the way we also discuss …

Diana Oliphant on Living in an Institutionalist World

October 15th, 2020


In one of the first episodes ever recorded for this show, Mason Hershenow talks to artist and model Diana Oliphant about the institutions that rule …

Mason Hershenow on What Makes a Photographer

October 8th, 2020


On today’s episode, the tables are turned as our co-host Sean Ang interviews your host Mason Hershenow — a classically-trained photographer  — about his own art practice, his thoughts on art education, and the …

Angela Yam on Finding Your True Passion in College

October 1st, 2020


This week your hosts Mason Hershenow and Sean Ang speak to vocalist Angela Yam about her experience discovering her medium in college, the state of …

Sean Ang on Finding a New Direction

September 24th, 2020


Welcome to our first episode! As an introduction, this week your host Mason Hershenow will be talking to co-host Sean Ang about Sean's experiences as a classical musician and how COVID has made them reconsider their …

Loading ...

Are you the creator of this podcast?

Verify your account

and pick the featured episodes for your show.

Listen to Meaning What


A free podcast app for iPhone and Android

  • User-created playlists and collections
  • Download episodes while on WiFi to listen without using mobile data
  • Stream podcast episodes without waiting for a download
  • Queue episodes to create a personal continuous playlist
RadioPublic on iOS and Android
Or by RSS
RSS feed

Connect with listeners

Podcasters use the RadioPublic listener relationship platform to build lasting connections with fans

Yes, let's begin connecting
Browser window

Find new listeners

  • A dedicated website for your podcast
  • Web embed players designed to convert visitors to listeners in the RadioPublic apps for iPhone and Android
Clicking mouse cursor

Understand your audience

  • Capture listener activity with affinity scores
  • Measure your promotional campaigns and integrate with Google and Facebook analytics
Graph of increasing value

Engage your fanbase

  • Deliver timely Calls To Action, including email acquistion for your mailing list
  • Share exactly the right moment in an episode via text, email, and social media
Icon of cellphone with money

Make money

  • Tip and transfer funds directly to podcastsers
  • Earn money for qualified plays in the RadioPublic apps with Paid Listens