Making Movies is HARD!!!

208 EpisodesProduced by Filmmakers Timothy Plain & Alrik Bursell

Timothy Plain and Alrik Bursell discuss independent filmmaking, everything from writing, producing and directing to working as crew. But this is not just a podcast about "making it," it's also about struggling with rejection, self-doubt and everything else that comes with pursuing a career in film. … read more

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Episode 202 - Alex Kellerman and Alrik Bursell Solo Bolo

April 22nd, 2019

1:17:16

This week Kellerman and Alrik do their second solo episode together, talking about all kinds of filmmaking related nonsense. This is not the …

Episode 201 - Alex Ferrari - Talking the Indie Film Hustle

April 15th, 2019

1:33:46

This week Kellerman and Alrik welcome Alex Ferrari from Indie Film Hustle to the show! Alex is a filmmaker, editor, colorist and podcast guru, known …

Episode 200 - MMIH Co-Host/Directors Round Table!

April 10th, 2019

1:27:37

This week Alrik welcomes filmmakers and co-hosts Liz Manashil, L. Jeffrey Moore, Isaac Pingree, Samiat Salami, Andrew Schrader and Colin Levy to this …

Episode 199 - DeShuna Spencer - Starting Your Own Streaming Platform!

April 1st, 2019

1:13:04

This week Alrik and Jeff welcome filmmaker and CEO/Founder of Kweli TV, DeShuna Spencer to the show! DeShuna talks to us about her streaming platform Kweli TV and the struggles she faces in running her own independent …

Episode 198 - Bringing in 2019 with Liz Anderson!

March 28th, 2019

1:33:27

This week Alrik welcomes our next guest co-host Liz Anderson to the show! We talk about Liz's background, how she went from being an actor to a filmmaker and how she made her way from New York to LA and back to San …

Episode 197 - Josh Gannon - Script Supervisor

March 18th, 2019

1:26:12

This week Alrik and co-host Alex Kellerman talk to Script Supervisor Josh Gannon who has worked on over a dozen feature films and countless shorts as the Script Supervisor.

Episode 196 - Jesse Handsher - Being Napoleon

March 11th, 2019

1:14:17

This week Alrik and co-host Isaac Pingree talk with producer, director, editor and documentary filmmaker Jesse Handsher about making his documentary, …

Episode 195 - New Co-Host - Isaac Pingree

March 4th, 2019

1:11:50

This week Alrik welcomes our seventh guest co-host Isaac Pingree to the show! Isaac has been making movies since he was a teenager, even directing his first feature film at the age of 20. Isaac talks to us about what he …

Episode 194- Mischa Stanton - Tellings Stories in Sound

February 25th, 2019

1:15:41

L. Jeffrey Moore and Alrik welcome storyteller, audio wizard and podcaster extraordinaire, Mischa Stanton to the show! Mischa is the mind behind the award-winning serial audio drama ars PARADOXICA, a love letter to …

Episode 193 - Jack and Justin - Thriving as a Directing Duo in LA

February 18th, 2019

1:08:37

This week Alrik and co-host Andrew Schrader welcome LA directing duo Jack and Justin to the show! Jack and Justin talk to us about how they got started as a director duo, how they got their first gig and how it lead to …

Episode 192 - Making the North Pole - Yvan Iturriaga & Darren Colston

February 12th, 2019

1:38:09

This week Samiat and Alrik welcome filmmakers Yvan Iturriaga and Darren Colston to the show! They were co-creators and the director and producer …

Bonus Episode - Introducing The Making Movies is HARD Patreon Page!

February 7th, 2019

11:41

Surprise!!! Alrik here, I wanted to just drop you all a line and let you know about our brand new patreon page and to give you a little update on my work and how things are going with The Alternate!

Episode 191 - Welcome New Co-Host Samiat Salami!

February 4th, 2019

1:24:57

This week Alrik welcomes our fifth guest co-host Samiat Salami to the show! We talk about what it's like to transition from life in Nigeria to eventually coming to Oakland and finding herself as a filmmaker and making …

Episode 190 - Peter Jang - Stunt Fighting and Making it in LA

January 28th, 2019

1:28:33

This week Alrik and co-host Kellerman welcome Stunt Performer, Actor and Filmmaker Peter Jang to the show! Peter has performed stunts in 44 projects, including Bad Times at the El Royal and The Last Ships and acted in …

Episode - 189 - Angie Powers & Elizabeth Stark - Lost in the Middle

January 21st, 2019

51:16

This week we have filmmakers Angie Powers and Elizabeth Stark on the show! They talk to us about how they got into filmmaking, making films as a couple and making their first feature film, Lost in the MIddle!

Episode 188 - Welcome New Co-Host L. Jeffrey Moore Solo Episode

January 14th, 2019

1:11:20

This week Alrik welcomes our newest guest co-host L. Jeffrey Moore to the show! We talk about how Jeff got started in filmmaking, his time in LA and how he has been making it as an actor in SF and much more!

Episode 187- Andrew Chesworth - Life of an Ex Disney Animator

January 7th, 2019

1:41:42

This week we welcome Animator and Filmmaker Andrew Chesworth to the show! Andrew worked at Disney as an animator on films like Wreck It Ralph, Frozen, Big Hero Six and Moana and has just released his latest short film, …

Episode 186 - Welcome 3rd Co-Host, Colin Levy!

December 31st, 2018

1:18:37

This week we welcome our official third co-host to the show, Colin Levy! In this episode we talk about how Colin's first year in LA has gone, the …

Bonus Episode - Aqua Talk with L. Jeffrey Moore

December 29th, 2018

1:21:15

This week Alrik and future co-host L. Jeffrey Moore talk about Aquaman, give their mostly spoiler free review and discuss it's place in the landscape of super hero movies!

Episode 185 - Making Movies is Hard Live in LA with Lewberger!

December 24th, 2018

1:02:11

This week we have our first ever live show in LA with special guest Lewberger! Join Alex Kellerman and Alrik Bursell as they talk to Alex Lewis, Keith Habersberger and Hughie Stone Fish about the music comedy band and …

Episode 184 - Welcome 2nd Co-Host, Alex Kellerman!

December 19th, 2018

58:16

This week we have our second co-host, Alex Kellerman on the show! In this episode we get to know a little about Alex's backstory and get his …

Episode 183 - Katie Johnson-Final

December 10th, 2018

56:30

This week we have write Katie Johnson on the show to talk about starting a career in writing, working in a writers room and writing on season three …

Episode 182 - Welcome Co-Host Andrew Schrader - The Writing Process

December 3rd, 2018

1:06:51

This week Alrik welcomes his first new co-host Andrew Schrader to the show! We talk about Andrew's background in filmmaking, how he got to where he is now and his writing process.

Episode 181 - Timothy's Final Episode (For Now)

November 26th, 2018

1:26:35

Timothy retires as the full time co-host of Making Movies is Hard. We discuss what's next for the podcast and Timothy tells us what he has learned …

Episode 180 - My Struggle - Listener Call Ins

November 19th, 2018

1:30:42

Three listeners of the podcast dial in to talk about what they are struggling with and ask for advice.

Episode 179 - Making Music Videos with the Band Beautiful Machines

November 12th, 2018

1:11:53

Conrad and Stefanie join us to talk about making music videos, from their very first video "Animammal" to the recent "We Have 2 Escape"

Episode 178 - Tony Gapastione - Being a Brave Maker

November 5th, 2018

1:08:59

This week we have local actor, writer, producer, director and entrepreneur, Tony Gapastione on the show! Tony talks to us about how he got into filmmaking and his new non-profit Brave Maker which is designed to help …

Episode 177 - Steve Dildarian - Creating An HBO Animated Series

October 29th, 2018

1:26:48

While working in advertising Steve Dildarian made a short film that won the Aspen Comedy Fest and eventually turned into an HBO Animated Series called "The Life and Times of Tim."

Episode 176 - Vinne Van Wyk - Shooting Stock Footage

October 22nd, 2018

1:08:58

This week we have filmmaker and cinematographer Vinnie Van Wyk on the show, we were introduced to Vinnie through our sponsor Dissolve because we …

Episode 175 - LIVE PODCAST with Ben Wolan

October 15th, 2018

56:54

This episode was recorded in front of a live audience right before Ben Wolan screened his film "Rubicon Road" for the first time. We explore what it …

Episode 174 - Evan Cecil - Shooting a Good Death

October 8th, 2018

1:10:06

This week we have local Bay Area Director Evan Cecil on the show to talk about how he got started in film, his years of directing TV re-enactments and shooting the 21 kills in his new feature film Lasso that hits VOD on …

Episode 173 - Ed Ng - Starting from the Bottom

October 1st, 2018

1:14:52

Our friend Ed Ng is on the podcast today and we're so excited to have him to tell us how in just six years he we went from no film experience to producing and shooting jobs for big names like Apple, HTC and Tostitos.

Episode 172 - The Alternate, Timothy Writes and a Podcast Shakeup!

September 24th, 2018

1:19:36

This week Timothy and Alrik chat amongst themselves about Alrik's film The Alternate, Timothy writing for another month and shaking up the podcast! What does it all mean? Listen to find out!

Episode 171 - Paulina Lagudi - Directing Children

September 17th, 2018

1:07:24

Paulina Lagudi recently finished her first feature Mail Order Monster which stars several children. She shares tips on working with kids as well as …

Episode 170 - Tony Vella - The Life of a Stunt Person

September 11th, 2018

1:29:27

Stunt Coordinator Tony Vella joins us this week to talk about his life in the film business, how he got started and how it all led him to his career in stunts!

Episode 169 - Melhik Hailu

September 3rd, 2018

1:12:40

Melhik discovered a passion for filmmaking in high school and has since hustled his way into freelance work and internships while also studying at SF …

Episode 168 - What Kind of Directing Experience is Good Directing Experience?

August 27th, 2018

1:04:21

As Alrik directs more he wonders what kind of directing experience is good for his growth and career. On the other hand, Timothy chooses to turn down directing jobs and focus on his growth in other ways. Plus we read a …

Episode 167 - Maria Mealla - Losing Funding and Making Your Feature

August 20th, 2018

1:07:28

This week we have a special co-host previous guest Kuang Lee to talk with local filmmaker Maria Maella about losing funding for her feature Bring Me an Avocado but pushing forward and making it happen anyways!

Episode 166 - Margaret Caragan - Making Special Effects with Pandora FX!

August 15th, 2018

1:13:23

Margaret Caragan is a local Bay Area SFX artist who has worked on all kinds of features, short films and commercials, making all kinds of amazing practical effects. Margaret talks about how she got started in special …

Episode 165 - Jean-Luc Julien - Cannes Short Film Corner & Funding a Feature Film

August 6th, 2018

1:12:11

Jean-Luc Julien left Los Angeles for a life in Berlin, Germany where he acts and makes films. After 20 years of short films, he still struggles to …

Episode 164 - David Sandwisch - A Life Full of Sound

July 30th, 2018

55:13

This week we have local sound mixer and post production sound specialist David Sandwisch on the show! David has also done a ton of post sound work including work for Microsoft, Google and post production sound for the …

Episode 163 - Alrik's Directing Career Takes Off

July 23rd, 2018

1:03:04

Alrik is directing a whole lot more, Timothy asks for change to a script he wants to direct, and we discuss whether or not a filmmaker ever stops …

Episode 162 - Chris Ford - One and Done?

July 16th, 2018

1:21:42

Chris Ford is an advertising writer and Creative Director. Ten years ago, he took a break from agency life to make a feature film, The Village Barbershop starring John Ratzenberger (Cheers). He hasn't made another film …

Episode 161 - Hilton Day - Assistant Directing

July 9th, 2018

1:47:38

An assistant director is a key crew member and one that's often misunderstood by people outside the industry. Hilton Day tells us what he's learned about assistant directing over the last 6 years including his work on …

Episode 160 - Remi Lacoste - Directing Video Games

July 2nd, 2018

1:16:27

Remi Lacoste is a game director that just wrapped the upcoming "Shadow of the Tomb Raider." He shares insights into the production of video games and how he achieves some of the most cinematic and emotional storytelling …

Episode 159 - A Month Off Writing & Filmmaking After 40

June 25th, 2018

1:21:08

Alrik catches us up on his directing career. Timothy shares a new approach he's taken to writing and some decisions he's made about what filmmaking after 40s looks like for him.

Episode 158 – Pete Lee – Martial Arts, Wong Kar-wai & Sundance

June 18th, 2018

1:22:32

Bay Area director Pete Lee dreams of highlighting modern issues through martial arts storytelling. His latest short "Don't Be A Hero" was nominated for a Grand Jury prize at both SXSW and Sundance and he's now working …

Episode 157 - Howard Franklin - Maintaining a Screenwriting Career - Howard Franklin

June 11th, 2018

1:27:24

Howard Franklin started writing for Hollywood in the early 80s and has maintained a steady career since. We talk to Howard about how he got his …

Episode 156 - Three Year Anniversary

June 4th, 2018

1:00:53

After three years of podcasting, we attempt to record Episode 001 all over again, but end up going on a bunch of tangents, discuss our recent guests …

Episode - 155 - Gerry Maravilla - Head of Crowdfunding, Seed & Spark

May 27th, 2018

1:11:04

Gerry Maravilla started as a PA in Hollywood working on films such as The Beginners and moving into TV with Always Sunny in Philadelphia but now he's …

Episode 154 - J.D. Dillard - from Bad Robot Receptionist to "The Fly" Remake

May 20th, 2018

1:55:04

He worked as the receptionist for Bad Robot and now he's attached to direct the remake of The Fly. Hear all about how J.D. Dillard made the move to …

Episode 153 - Jeffrey Allard - Producing Indie Films

May 14th, 2018

1:32:30

Indie Film Producer Jeffrey Allard has made over 14 movies in about 15 years in the business, today he tells us about his process, how he finds his projects and how he's managed to get distribution for all his films.

Episode 152 - Renee Mao - Becoming a Commercial Director

May 7th, 2018

1:38:01

After college, it took Renee Mao just three years to sign as a commercial director. She tells us her journey from graduating Tisch in 2014 and …

Episode 151 - Jon Peters - A Life in Stop Motion

April 30th, 2018

1:16:54

This week Timothy and Alrik are joined by local stop motion director Jon Peters to talk all things stop motion. We talk about the history of the craft, how Jon got started in it and what the world of stop motion looks …

Episode 150 - Elizabeth & Sean - Starting Your Own Production Company

April 23rd, 2018

1:23:35

After high school, Sean McCarthy started his own production company and more than 15 years later they are going strong. He now works with his partner …

Episode 149 - Ian James Duncan - Making a Fan Film

April 16th, 2018

1:30:02

Ever think about making a fan film based on a major franchise? This week we have Ian James Duncan on the show to talk about his Half Life web series 'The Freeman Chronicles', how it came about, the release and the …

Episode 148 - Don Bies - Special FX Magic

April 9th, 2018

1:45:37

Don Bies worked on gruesome effects and detailed models for some of the biggest films of the 80s and 90s. We’re talking The Fly, Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, Starship Troopers, Galaxy Quest & Fire in the Sky! …

Episode 147 - Filming a Levitation

April 2nd, 2018

1:02:47

We offer some advice on shooting a demonic levitation, and then ponder whether or not you have to be “The Best” to have a successful career.

Episode 146 - Marco Aguilar - Crowdfunding Secrets

March 26th, 2018

1:11:36

Marco Aguilar launches his crowdfunding campaign for a feature-length version of his hit short film "Zombie Parkour" and hopes to take 9 Million Hits and turn it into $100,000.

Episode 145 - Steve Herold - 18 Years of Filmmaking and Counting

March 19th, 2018

1:19:15

Steve Herold's first film HR Punkenshette got him meetings with Robert Simonds, Joe Dante, Sony and The Farrelly Brothers production company. What's …

Episode 144 - Kuang Lee - The Second Feature Film & Audience Interpretations

March 12th, 2018

1:08:09

Not all independent filmmakers get the chance to make a first feature, and then there are filmmakers like Kuang Lee who have already made two features and in the middle of planning their third. Tune in for inspiration …

Episode 143 - Polarizing Audiences - L. Jeffrey Moore

March 5th, 2018

1:31:22

Is polarizing an audience a good thing or a bad thing? To help navigate Alrik and Timothy's disagreement on the subject we have Producer, Writer and …

BONUS EPISODE - The Alternate Table Read

March 1st, 2018

3:04:00

A live reading of Alrik's screenplay "The Alternate"

Episode 142 - Sophia LaPaglia - Approaching Nudity, Sex & Violence in Your Film

February 26th, 2018

1:33:12

We dedicate an entire episode to working with nudity, sex and violence. Here to join us is actress Sophia LaPaglia who gives us the dos and dont's of …

Episode 141 - Chloe Weaver - Transitioning from an AC to a DP

February 19th, 2018

1:07:22

Director of Photography Chloe Weaver talks to us about how she got started in the industry, her career in the camera department and how she went from AC to DPing an episode of The Chef's Table.

Episode 140 - Karina Wolfe - How Actors Create Memorable Performances

February 12th, 2018

1:29:28

Actress Karina Wolfe tells us how she creates a performance, from breaking down a script to working with directors. Plus we share stories from the …

Episode 139 - Alrik Bursell's "The Alternate"

February 5th, 2018

1:18:54

This week Alrik and Timothy dedicate a whole episode to Alrik's film, The Alternate, which is currently in development with a target shoot date of …

Episode 138 - Reed Shusterman - How Script Reading Works

January 29th, 2018

1:28:21

Reed Shusterman is a filmmaker who is also a professional script reader. He answers all our burning questions about script readers including: how does a script reader evaluate a script? What makes a script good? What …

Episode 137 - Megaera Stephens - Working as a 1st AC

January 22nd, 2018

1:05:35

This week we have woman 1st AC Megaera Stephens on the show to talk about how she got started in the camera department, being woman in a technical …

Episode 136 - Gordy Hoffman - A Screenwriter's Journey and How Screenwritiing Competitions Work

January 15th, 2018

1:08:17

Join us for this inspiring conversation with Gordy Hoffman about how screenplay competitions work and why you should never give up. If you want to …

Episode 135 - Paul Schneider - Casting Known Actors

January 8th, 2018

1:24:13

This week we have commercial director Paul Schneider on the show to talk about making a living as a director, making the transition from commercials …

Episode 134 - New Year Special with Andrew Schrader, Arielle Zakowski & Evan Kidd

January 1st, 2018

2:12:54

We talk to more past guests about what they’ve been up to since they were first on the podcast. This week we have Andrew Schrader, Arielle Zakowski and Evan Kidd in an extra long episode to keep you company during your …

Episode 133 - Christmas Special with Lisa Donato, Colin Levy and Kyle McCauley

December 25th, 2017

2:08:38

Welcome to the 2017 MMIH Christmas extravaganza! We decided to do something special this year and bring back a bunch of our previous guests to see how they are doing and what's changed in their career's since we last …

Episode 132 - Year End Wrapup

December 18th, 2017

1:11:16

With just two more episodes to go this year, Timothy and Alrik wrapup their discussion on Alrik's feature film "The Alternate," Timothy's …

Episode 131 - How We Write Stories

December 11th, 2017

1:05:02

This week Timothy talks a bit about restructuring his approach to his script, which leads to a deep conversation about how he and Alrik come up with the stories they write, plus some big news from Alrik about The …

Episode 130 - Progress Anxiety, Act 2 Troubles and The Little People

December 4th, 2017

1:02:50

Timothy talks about struggling with his screenplay, Alrik talks about just wanting to just shoot something already, we recap our interview with Jason Headley and talk about the "little people".

Episode 129 - Jason Headley - Living the Filmmaker's Dream

November 27th, 2017

1:03:50

Jason Headley is an indie filmmaking success. Not only did his short receive over 15 million views, he also has a career directing commercials and writing for Pixar. And now Jason's debut feature film "A Bad Idea Gone …

Episode 128 - Advertising on Facebook

November 20th, 2017

1:04:40

Alrik shares his experience screening The Rage at the Pictoclick film festival. Then we delve into Facebook Advertising using a $30 experiment on two different ads.

Episode 127 - Timothy's Ego, Alrik Moves to LA & A Listener Question

November 13th, 2017

1:09:35

Timothy talks about his ego getting in the way of his filmmaking and the emotional bruising of recent screenings of The Spirit Machine. Alrik talks about moving to LA! And we answer a listener question from Tariq Taleb!

AFM 2017 Bonus Episode

November 7th, 2017

7:40

Hey everyone, I just have a few more words on AFM I wanted to add to this weeks episode!

Episode 126: Is AFM Worth It?

November 6th, 2017

59:04

You've heard about AFM and maybe have a vague sense that it's a place where films get bought and sold. But what exactly is it? Should every filmmaker …

Episode 125 - Prepping for AFM

October 30th, 2017

51:47

This week we have an episode without a guest and catch up on what we've been up to and I give Timothy a breakdown of my preparation for my first year at AFM. We also read some iTunes reviews and hint at what we've got …

Episode 124 - Find Your Audience with Sundance's Creative Distribution Team

October 23rd, 2017

1:12:20

Creative tips on getting your film seen with Jess and Liz from Sundance's Creative Distribution Initiative

Episode 123 - Composer Gregory James Jenkins

October 16th, 2017

1:10:02

LA based composer Gregory James Jenkins joins us this week to talk about scoring everything from Disney cartoons to horror films.

Episode 122 - How to Budget a $12k Feature

October 9th, 2017

1:35:44

We talk to Noam Kroll about the ins and outs of shooting an affordable feature film.

Episode 121 - Talking Indie Features with Frazer Bradshaw!

October 2nd, 2017

1:14:40

Independent Filmmaker and Director of Photography Frazer Bradshaw talks about getting into Sundance with his first feature and what steps he had to take to get his second feature (The Deep Sky) made.

Episode 120 - Finding an Audience with Smarthouse Creative

September 25th, 2017

56:39

No two films are alike, how will your film find it's audience? We're joined by Ryan Davis and Brad Wilke of Smarthouse Creative to talk about how they work with filmmakers to release their film in the world and assist …

Episode 119 - Horror Equity Fund with Brian and Marlon!

September 18th, 2017

1:13:04

This week we have two very special guests, Brian Herskowitz and Marlon Schulman from Horror Equity Fund! We hear all about what the Horror Equity …

Episode 118 - PR and Getting Your Film Seen

September 11th, 2017

1:01:33

You have a short film to release, now what? This week we give advice on press releases and the best way to get your film seen.

Episode 117 - Advice for a 15yr Old Filmmaker

September 4th, 2017

51:36

This week Timothy and Alrik answer a listener question from a 15 year old filmmaker, read a itunes review and catch up on what they've been doing …

Episode 116 - A Critical Look at The Spirit Machine

August 28th, 2017

1:17:10

Timothy's short film "The Spirit Machine" is officially out in the world! Be sure to check it out on YouTube or Vimeo before listening to this gloves off conversation about how the film turned out. What works? What …

Episode 115 - Hoarding Acorns with Winnie Wong

August 21st, 2017

1:24:42

This week we talk with freelance producer Winnie Wong about making the leap from a full time producer at a major company to going back to the world …

Episode 114 - Visual Effects Supervisor Kaitlyn Yang

August 14th, 2017

1:08:11

Kaitlyn Yang is a VFX artist and Supervisor that's worked on Walking Dead, Robot Chicken, and more. After freelancing for some bigger places like Zoic, Framestore and MPC she decided to open her own boutique shop called …

Episode 113 - Cinematographer Jason Joseffer

August 7th, 2017

1:13:42

Jason Joseffer has shot films for both Timothy and Alrik. This week, we talk to Jason about how he became a Cinematographer, how he works with directors and much more!

Episode 112 - Make a DAMN Movie!!!

July 31st, 2017

51:35

A listener challenges us to stop talking and go make our movies, plus we talk about how much you should get paid as a professional

Episode 111 - Becoming "Professional"

July 24th, 2017

1:30:19

Alrik and Timothy get into the details about how they became working professionals. We talk about how we got our start after graduating and the steps we took to get to where we are now. Plus we talk about what it means …

Episode 110 - "Stranger Things" Actor Jackie Dallas

July 17th, 2017

1:20:59

We talk to actor Jackie Dallas about how she launched her career in the Bay Area and landed a role in Stranger Things. Plus, discussions about …

Episode 109 - Sales Rep Ben Yennie

July 11th, 2017

1:07:45

Want to figure out how to get your movie sold, raise the funds or figure out how the movie is going to get seen? This week we have producer/sales rep …

Episode 108 - From "Half Baked" to "Monster" with Steven Bernstein

July 3rd, 2017

1:08:14

For years, Steven Bernstein was the go-to DP for big budget comedies like Half Baked, Waterboy and White Chicks. Then he shot "Monster" with Patty Jenkins which inspired him to start writing and directing.

Episode 107 - Insurance, Fame and Do 25k Films Matter?

June 26th, 2017

1:07:00

This week Timothy and Alrik are in the middle of a big job so they jump back to their old format and talk through a series of topics, including …

Episode 106 - Comedian David Roth

June 19th, 2017

1:17:13

What do stand-up comedy and filmmaking having in common? A lot actually. This week we delve into the world of comedy with David Roth and talk about advertising, finding your voice and the struggles of learning a new …

Episode 105 - Actor/Writer Rob Chester Smith

June 12th, 2017

1:05:27

An insightful conversation with Rob Chester Smith about breaking in as an actor/writer in Los Angeles. Once you've reached your goal what do you do …

Episode 104 - Listener Dial Ins

June 5th, 2017

1:27:15

We celebrate our two-year anniversary by inviting listeners of the show to dial in and talk about what's on their mind. This week we talk to Lindsay Serrano, Jeff Palmer and John Muth for conversations about low-budget …

Episode 103 - New Opportunities

May 29th, 2017

1:09:49

Timothy and Alrik update each other on their projects, their careers and some exciting new opportunities

Episode 102 - Rebecca Weaver

May 22nd, 2017

1:33:42

Rebecca Weaver tells us how she made her $11k budget feature with a two person crew and went on to win "Best American Indie" at the Sonoma Film Fest and "Best Feature" at both the Lone Star & East Lansing Film Fests

Episode 101 - Life After Your First Feature with Sean Lynch!

May 15th, 2017

1:06:27

What do you do once your first feature is done and has distribution? Today we talk with writer/director Sean Nichols Lynch who is in pre-production …

Episode 100 - "Napoleon Dynamite" Director Jared Hess!

May 8th, 2017

1:26:45

Jared Hess, the man behind "Napoleon Dynamite" succeeded in ways we all dream of, namely hitting big with his first film. We obviously have a ton of …

Episode 99 - Moving to LA with Gavin Murray!

May 1st, 2017

1:04:12

What do you do when you first move to LA? This week we have DP and filmmaker Gavin Murray who just moved to LA from SF three months ago and he talks about how he made the move, what he's looking to accomplish and how …

Episode 98 - Independent Financing with Yumee Jang

April 24th, 2017

1:13:49

So you've got a script and all you need is the money to shoot it. Great! But where do you start? This week, producer Yumee Jang sits down to answer all our questions about where independent financing comes from …

Episode 97 - Finding a Story that Will Change Your Life with Scott Kirschenbaum

April 17th, 2017

1:01:29

Documentarian Scott Kirschenbaum joins us this week to talk about his life as a documentary filmmaker, how he goes about finding stories that will change his life and how he captured a woman giving brith in his newest …

Episode 96 - Rick Bosner Says "You Don't Have To Live in LA"

April 10th, 2017

1:17:01

Rick Bosner joins us to talk about how he makes a living as a filmmaker including work as a line producer on Fruitvale Station and Executive Producer on Other People. And he explains why you don't have to be in LA to do …

Episode 95 - Bay Area Filmmaker Rob Richert!

April 3rd, 2017

1:05:11

This week we have filmmaker extraordinaire Rob Richert on the show to give us a nice overview of his career on his filmmaker, covering film festivals, directing philosophies and being ready to pivot your story based on …

Episode 94 - Gareth Edwards Keynote

March 27th, 2017

1:09:52

Timothy is back from his shoot in Chile and Alrik just wrapped his four day documentary style shoot. We wing a conversation about what's next for our feature films and share some inspiration from Gareth Edwards SXSW …

Episode 93 - In The Thick Of It

March 20th, 2017

58:57

Timothy is in Santiago Chile shooting a commercial and Alrik is working on a four day doc style shoot, so the guys talk about how their prep is going and how it kind of sucks that they have both been too busy to work on …

BONUS EPISODE! Decompressing from the Just Shoot It Podcast

March 13th, 2017

25:40

Timothy and Alrik decompress from their experience recording the crossover episode with the Just Shoot It Podcast.

Episode 92 - Just Shoot It Crossover Episode!

March 9th, 2017

1:25:44

A crossover episode with fellow filmmaking podcasters, Matt Enlow and Oren Kaplan of the Just Shoot It Podcast! We talk about our lives as directors but really quickly get into a discussion of why we aren't in LA. Enjoy!

Episode 91 - Tech Scout and Shoot

March 6th, 2017

1:07:49

We continue where we left off last week, talking about the shoot we're working on together, Alrik as Producer and Timothy as Director. This week we walk you through the tech scout, the last week of prep and the shoot …

Episode 90 - Prepping a Production

February 27th, 2017

1:02:07

How do you prep a production? Where do you start? This week, Alrik and Timothy describe the process of prepping a music video that Timothy is directing and Alrik is producing.

Episode 89 - Starting a Career in Commercial Directing with Plummer/Strauss

February 20th, 2017

1:18:20

Justin Plummer III and Martin Strauss are two San Francisco Bay Area directors who get paid to direct full time. They talk with us about how they got …

Episode 88 - Microbudget Filmmaking with Liz Manashil

February 13th, 2017

1:34:14

This week we hear how Liz Manashil is making her movies on a microbudget, finding name actors, getting distribution and sustaining her career as a filmmaker.

Episode 87 - A Tweet from Jay Duplass!

February 6th, 2017

49:17

We shoot the breeze this week with a few topics including La La Land, tax season, getting rejected from film festivals and a Tweet from Jay Duplass!

Episode 86 - Lighting TV & Movies with Ryan Thomas

January 30th, 2017

1:19:11

Ryan Thomas started his career as a grip and gaffer in San Francisco, but when the non-union reality show he was working on turned union, Ryan was able to join the local 728 and make the move to LA to level up his …

Episode 85 - Getting a Name Actor for Your Micro-Budget Film

January 23rd, 2017

1:11:49

What makes for a satisfying ending to a movie? And how the hell do you get a name actor attached to your movie when you don't have an agent or a manager?

Episode 84 - Alternative Distribution with Isaac Pingree

January 16th, 2017

1:27:31

We explore two distribution models in this episode. Filmmaker Isaac Pingree released his first feature "Day of Vengeance" through a traditional distributor but with his latest film "The Fred Eaglesmith Traveling Steam …

Episode 83 - A Self-Distribution Success Story with Griffin Hammond

January 9th, 2017

59:27

Griffin Hammond made a 33-minute documentary about Sriracha that he self-distributed and made money. That's right. Real money. We follow his journey …

Episode 82 - Happy New Year!

January 1st, 2017

1:30:08

Happy New Year everyone! We distill our entire year of experience into one awesome episode, including our first listener call in from Alex Kellerman who challenges us on the idea of "breaking in."

Episode 81 - Paid Pitches

December 25th, 2016

1:00:24

Over the last two weeks, Alrik pitched his feature script "The Alternate" to producers and managers. We share his results with a discussoin around …

Episode 80 - Self Distribution with Lucas Kitchen

December 20th, 2016

1:10:23

Everyone can make a movie but when it's done, what's the best way to get it out into the world? This week we have filmmaker Lucas Kitchen on the show to talk about his experience working with the aggregator Distribber, …

Episode 79 - Feature Films: Funding and Pitching

December 12th, 2016

1:19:14

We focus on feature films this week with several discussions including "what does a $100k feature really look like?" "How do you ask investors for money?" and "what does a good pitch sound like?"

Episode 78 - Unions

December 5th, 2016

1:04:16

We answer a listener question and discuss what we know (and don't know) about unions. Should you be in a union? Why aren't we?

Episode 77 - The Break-In with Robin Schmidt

November 28th, 2016

1:15:00

We're joined by guest host "Robin Schmidt" who has a filmmaking podcast called "The Break-In". We talk to Robin about his filmmaking career in Europe …

Episode 76 - Catching Up

November 21st, 2016

1:01:25

Alrik is back from Costa Rica and it's time for the guys to catch up. We talk over what it's like coming back from vacation, Timothy's commerical directing, Alrik's writing while he was gone and much more!

Episode 75 - When Do You Say No?

November 14th, 2016

1:08:28

When it comes to paid work, you don’t always get the projects you want. Should you say yes to every project you're offered or say no to ones that …

Episode 74 - Selling Your Short Film with Ronnie Allman

November 7th, 2016

1:02:46

We're joined by Bay Area Filmmaker Ronnie Allman to talk about filmmaking contests and his new website JustADollarShort.com

Episode 73 - Fundraising and Filmmaker Bios

October 31st, 2016

1:08:05

This week we give pointers on writing a filmmaker bio and Alrik downloads us on everything he's learned about fundraising

Episode 72 - The Distribution Argument

October 24th, 2016

1:06:01

Timothy and Alrik had two wonderful topics lined up but don't even get to them due to an intense discussion about distribution. We also discuss …

Episode 71 - What's With All The Screenplay Contests?

October 17th, 2016

57:42

This week Alrik talks to Timothy about all the millions of screenplay contests, paid skype pitches and all the other filmmaking opportunities that we independent filmmakers can purchase in order to break into the …

Episode 70 - Screenplay Coverage

October 10th, 2016

52:54

Alrik is sick this week but powers through an episode about his recent experience with the Black List and getting screenplay coverage on the latest draft of the 'The Alternate'

Episode 69 - The Spirit Machine is Done!

October 3rd, 2016

1:10:12

Timothy's short film, The Spirit Machine, which has been four years in the making, is finally done! We talk about how Timothy is feeling before the two screenings and then come together to talk about how it all went …

Episode 68 - Long Takes with Jim Cummings

September 26th, 2016

1:08:32

Jim Cummings is the writer/director of Thunder Road, a single take 12-minute short that won the Sundance Grand Jury Prize this year. This week, we ask Jim questions about long takes. When to use them? How to create …

Episode 67 - Music Video Director Brian Storm

September 19th, 2016

1:05:01

With his first camera he documented his neighborhood and shot videos of his brother playing basketball eventually making his way to music videos. With his company Dream Chaser films, he now works with local Bay Area …

Episode 66 - Editor Arielle Zakowski

September 12th, 2016

1:08:46

This week we have yet another fantastic guest on the show with commercial and film editor Arielle Zakowski!

Episode 65 - The Thornton Bros

September 5th, 2016

1:08:49

After ten years as screenwriters, the Thornton Bros. decided to raise money on IndieGogo and shoot a feature themselves. This week we explore the ins …

Episode 64 - My Filmmaking Life is Passing Me By!

August 29th, 2016

1:04:23

This week Alrik talks how he feels like his filmmaking life is passing him by, but is it really? Timothy talks about how he feels that he missed some …

Episode 63 - Fan Films & Michael Cimino

August 22nd, 2016

1:07:31

After a tweet about remaking Quantum Leap, Timothy seriously considers making a fan film. Alrik talks about the relative success of Strange Thing to Brother and the curiosity around uncompromising directors like Michael …

Episode 62 - Solving Story Problems, Tools and Feeling Special

August 15th, 2016

1:02:04

How do you solve your story problems, what's your favorite film tool and do you feel special? This week we talk through a trio of subjects, discuss …

Episode 61 - Remember That Guy That Gave Up?

August 8th, 2016

49:54

Remember that guy that gave up? Neither does anybody else. This week we talk about why no one should give up. Also, we dig into Ben Hur, Timothy's …

Episode 60 - How to Make Money With Your Short Films

August 1st, 2016

1:03:43

This week we talk about what options there are for making money with your short films. Is there a viable way to make the budget back or will your short film just end up being a calling card.

Episode 59 - Meeting Agents and Producers with Kyle McCauley

July 25th, 2016

1:08:47

What happens after you find "success"? Kyle McCauley's short film "James" landed him an agent, but that's just the start of his journey. What happens …

Episode 58 - What Producers Do

July 18th, 2016

1:06:25

Timothy just got back from producing a big budget commercial in Barcelona, but what did he do all day? This week we talk about the different types of producers, what we thought producers did before we were in the …

Episode 57 - Plot Types

July 11th, 2016

59:45

Either you believe whole heartedly in story structure or rebel against what can sometimes feel like a formula. This week Timothy and Alrik break down …

Episode 56 - Budgeting Your Short Film

July 4th, 2016

56:06

This week Timothy and Alrik talk about how they go about budgeting their short films and offer some advice on how to get started.

Episode 55 - Cutting Corners / Luck & Timing

June 27th, 2016

1:00:11

As an indie filmmaker, you're walking a fine line of doing everything by the books and having to bend or break the rules. When should you cut …

Episode 54 - Saila Kariat

June 20th, 2016

1:03:13

This week Saila Kariat, the director of The Valley talks to us about the long journey to bring her film to life and gives us an insider's view on fundraising and working with investors!!!

Episode 53 - Listener Questions

June 13th, 2016

1:02:03

This is part two of our first year anniversary as we answer listener questions.

Episode 52 - One Year Anniversary

June 13th, 2016

50:49

This is part one of two as we celebrate the end of our first year as a podcast. In this episode we talk about the past 51 episodes and the biggest lessons we've learned.

Episode 51 - Collaborating with Artists

June 6th, 2016

1:05:01

This week Timothy and Alrik talk about voice over, trying to find a director as an agency producer, indie filmmakers directing big franchises and …

Episode 50 - Discipline and Shane Carruth

May 30th, 2016

55:03

What's the relationship between discipline and art? And what's the deal with Shane Carruth?

Episode 49 - Good Deals, Bad Deals, Contracts and Lawyers

May 23rd, 2016

1:02:35

Timothy is back on Making Movies is Hard! Alrik and Timothy catch up on the last few weeks and talk a deal Timothy was offered from Crypt TV and how that all went down.

Episode 48 - Colin Levy on Outlines, Pitching and Story Telling

May 16th, 2016

1:03:37

This week Colin Levy is back to co-host a second episode while Timothy is in Japan. This week Alrik and Colin talk about a smattering of filmmaking …

Episode 47 - Talking Features with Colin Levy

May 9th, 2016

1:04:30

Colin Levy is back! Timothy is on vacation, so Colin takes his place and talks with Alrik about his 3-year project codenamed "Shipnet" and the …

Episode 46 - Being a Filmmaker in Los Angeles with Hassan Said

May 2nd, 2016

50:19

After his films played at 50 film festivals and won a handful of awards, Hassan made the move to Los Angeles to pursue a directing career.

Episode 45 - Making a $3,000 Feature with Evan Kidd

April 25th, 2016

1:02:46

This week Timothy and Alrik welcome North Carolina Filmmaker Evan Kidd to the show to talk about his independent filmmaking experience and how he …

Episode 44 - Never Give Up

April 18th, 2016

1:02:35

You might not always (or ever) get the results you want with your film. How do you survive?

Episode 43 - The Brother Premiere!

April 11th, 2016

53:38

What's it feel like to premiere your film on-line and at a film festival? Find out with the premiere of Alrik's short film "Brother"

Episode 42 - Winning the Filmmaking Lottery

April 4th, 2016

1:02:36

Many filmmakers think there's an easy path to making it big. This week, we discuss winning the filmmaking lottery. Is it really as simple as entering contests and festivals, getting noticed, and starting your career?

Episode 41 - Filmmaker = Artist + Businessperson

April 2nd, 2016

1:00:24

This week Timothy and Alrik talk about the balance between the artistic and business side of being a filmmaker.

Episode 40 - Lisa Donato

March 21st, 2016

1:04:53

We talk with special guest Lisa Donato about starting her career in LA and why she decided to move to Austin, TX. Plus lots of talk about diversity and patriarchal society.

Episode 39 - Ghostbusters, Friedkin & Playback

March 14th, 2016

1:02:43

This week we discuss the new Ghostbusters remake and what we think, we get some directing advice from William Friedkin from Marc Maron's WTF podcast and give our thoughts, and we discuss how we use playback and why we …

Episode 38 - What Makes A Good Kickstarter Campaign?

March 7th, 2016

1:02:04

This week we talk about what makes a good Kickstarter campaign

Episode 37 - "Audrey" Short Film

February 29th, 2016

1:05:30

This week we talk about Timothy's latest commercial, comparing yourself to your peers, and we give our thoughts on a listener's short film

Episode 36 - Where to Put the Camera? Which lenses to use? How to direct like Tarantino!

February 22nd, 2016

56:49

We're breaking format this week to talk about a few smaller topics. First is where to put the camera. Then we have a clip from Roger Deakins about lenses. And finally, we theorize on how Quentin Tarantino gets such …

Episode 35 - What's the Price of Pursuing Narrative Film?

February 15th, 2016

1:00:53

When you start out as a filmmaker you don't instantly have the opportunity to get paid for the films you make. What sacrifices must you make (if any) to pursue a life of creativity? Timothy and Alrik give you their …

Episode 34 - Advertising

February 8th, 2016

1:10:08

Ridley Scott, Spike Jonze, David Fincher all have commercial directing backgrounds. So does that mean we should all start with commercials?

Episode 33 Dealing With The Internal Critic

February 1st, 2016

1:05:32

This week Timothy talks about a tough experience dealing with his internal critic and talks to Alrik about how he's dealing with it. Alrik talks about his internal critic and how he works through it.

Episode 32 - Do It All Yourself? Or Find the Money and Hire a Crew?

January 25th, 2016

1:02:06

Filmmaking has become increasingly accessible and you can make a movie with very little equipment/crew. What is the best way to approach your first feature? DIY or raising money to hire a crew?

Episode 31 - What Makes a Great Story? with Marc Madrigal

January 18th, 2016

1:18:48

Marc Madrigal, the host of Story Punch Podcast, joins us to talk about what makes a great story

Episode 30 - Listener Question: Getting The Cinematic Look

January 11th, 2016

1:06:06

We answer a listener question: "How do you go about making your footage look cinematic?"

Episode 29 - Pursuing Experience or Greatness?

January 4th, 2016

1:10:05

This week Timothy and Alrik bring in the new year with a discussion about what path they want to take as filmmakers in the new year.

Episode 28 - How Do We Grow Our Film Communities?

December 14th, 2015

1:04:35

This week Timothy and Alrik talk about what could be done to expand our film communities.

Episode 27 - How To Present Yourself As a Filmmaker

December 7th, 2015

50:58

How do you present yourself as a filmmaker? Whether it's in meetings or at a party, how do you create the most opportunity for yourself? Alrik and Timothy share their experiences and offer advice.

Episode 26 - A Critical Look at Over My Dead Body with Colin Levy

November 30th, 2015

1:10:27

This week Timothy and Alrik are joined by Colin Levy to have a gloves off conversation about Over My Dead Body. Colin does most of the talking and …

Episode 25 - How Do You Know When a Project is Done?

November 23rd, 2015

1:06:11

Timothy and Alrik talk about how they know when a project is done. How do you decide to lock an edit or send out a script?

Episode 24 - Do On-Line Views Really Matter with Guest Colin Levy

November 16th, 2015

1:08:08

We talk to director Colin Levy about the success of his short films and get his thoughts on what makes certain films succeed on-line. We also learn …

Episode 23 - What Is Your Filmmaking Point of View?

November 9th, 2015

1:07:00

Timothy and Alrik discuss their point of views as filmmakers, why would anyone care what you have to say and where does that POV come from?

Episode 22 - The Festival Premiere of Over My Dead Body

November 2nd, 2015

53:46

This week we premiered our short film Over My Dead Body and we talk about what the festival premiere was like and how the on-line release went.

Episode 21 - Redefining Our Career Goals

October 26th, 2015

1:01:58

After speaking with a two time feature filmmaker who faces the same struggles as they do, Timothy and Alrik talk over what they really want out of their filmmaking careers,

Episode 20 - Sustainable Ideas with Andrew Schrader

October 19th, 2015

54:24

Filmmaking is a long, laborious process, so how do you pick an idea or a premise you want to dedicate time to? We talk to Andrew Schrader, the writer/director of two feature films ["The Age of Reason" and "Fever Night"] …

Episode 19 - The Episode About Nothing

October 12th, 2015

1:01:06

In this episode Timothy asks Alrik if the podcast is providing value for anyone, Alrik talks about Timothy's look book for his horror/comedy and a bunch of other random talk.

Episode 18 - Getting People To Watch Your Short

October 5th, 2015

55:14

Alrik talks about how he got 50,000+ views on "Strange Thing" and Timothy and Alrik discuss their plans for releasing "Over My Dead Body"

Episode 17 - An Actor's Perspective

September 28th, 2015

59:39

In Episode 12, we talked about working with actors. This week, we hear from an actor and and get his perspective on the indie filmmaking experience

Episode 16 - Working with Producers

September 21st, 2015

1:01:13

This week Timothy and Alrik talk about our experience working with producers and why they are so important.

Episode 15 - Giving/Receiving Feedback

September 14th, 2015

59:30

This week we talk about giving and receiving feedback

Episode 14 - What is Success?

September 7th, 2015

56:58

In this episode Timothy and Alrik talk about what it means to be a success. Are we successful filmmakers? If not, what will it take for us to get the …

Episode 13 - Short Film Fundraising

August 31st, 2015

49:46

This week we talk about the ways we've funded our short films.

Episode 12 - Working with Actors

August 24th, 2015

1:21:52

In this episode Timothy and Alrik discuss working with actors, from casting to directing on set we talk what's worked for us and what hasn't worked so well.

Episode 11 - Rejection and Failure

August 17th, 2015

Rejection and failure are unavoidable aspects of being a filmmaker. This week we talk about how we deal with these negative feelings.

Episode 10 - Listener Questions

August 10th, 2015

1:08:13

For the epic 10th episode, we answer listener questions submitted through Twitter and Facebook

Episode 9 - Are Film Festivals Helpful?

August 3rd, 2015

In this episode Timothy and Alrik dive deep into all things film festivals and how they are going to approach them in the future.

Episode 8 - Getting an Agent

July 27th, 2015

We're independent filmmakers, do we really need an agent? This week, Timothy and Alrik talk about the reasons someone might want an agent and the reasons neither of them are represented.

Episode 7 - Pursuing the Feature Film

July 20th, 2015

Making a feature film is tough, Timothy and Alrik discuss what they are doing to get their first features made.

Episode 6 - Work/Life/Creative Balance

July 13th, 2015

Life is busy. How do you find time to work on the creative stuff? Alrik and Timothy talk about finding a balance between work, friends, life, and creative projects.

Episode 5 - The Emotional Roller Coaster

July 6th, 2015

This week, Alrik and Timothy describe the emotional journey of making an independent film from script to finish, and how they deal with the wild ups and downs.

Episode 4 - The Benefits of Living in Los Angeles

June 29th, 2015

What are the advantages of living in Los Angeles and why have Timothy and Alrik decided to stay and pursue their dreams in the Bay Area?

Episode 3 - Deciding The Next Project

June 22nd, 2015

Making movies can be expensive, so how do you decide where to spend your time and money? This week, Alrik & Timothy discuss how and why they decided to work on their short films "Brother" and "The Spirit Machine"

Episode 2 - First Time Filmmaker Myths

June 14th, 2015

35:55

Alrik and Timothy talk about the myths first time filmmakers often believe when starting to make their first films.

Episode 1: Part 2 - The Birth of Making Movies is HARD!

June 14th, 2015

33:07

Timothy and Alrik talk about why they started a podcast.

Episode 1: Part 1 - An Introduction to MMIH

June 14th, 2015

29:47

New to the podcast? Start here with this intro to who we are and what this podcast is all about.

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