Cover art for podcast Making


21 EpisodesProduced by WBEZ ChicagoWebsite

WBEZ's critically-acclaimed bio-podcast series explores how an icon is made.

21 Episodes | 2016 - 2021

Oprah: Preview of Making Oprah

November 3rd, 2016


Making Oprah: The Inside Story of a TV Revolution is a public radio podcast -- about a daytime talk show. This fall marks 30 years since the national …

Oprah 1: No Strategy, No Plan, No Formula

November 10th, 2016


It was 30 years ago this fall that Oprah Winfrey first said “hellooooo” to a national audience. By the show’s finale in 2011, it was aired in 145 countries and watched by more than 40 million viewers a week in the U.S. …

Oprah 2: Skinheads And Scented Candles

November 17th, 2016


In the second episode of Making Oprah, we explore how The Oprah Winfrey Show elevated itself out of the heap of trash TV and into a show that intentionally embraced spirituality and positivity. 

The early years of …

Oprah 3: YOU GET A CAR!

November 22nd, 2016


In the show’s final decade, Oprah and her team staged massive spectacles of increasing grandiosity, from the infamous car giveaway to a 21,000-person flash mob that shut down part of Chicago. 

“It had become increasingly …

Oprah BONUS: Let's Talk About Oprah's Hair

December 16th, 2016


If you look at any image from the Oprah Winfrey Show, you can pretty much figure out what decade it’s from by looking at Oprah’s hairstyle. 

In this short bonus episode, host Jenn White talks to Oprah’s longtime stylist …

Oprah BONUS: Oprah Gets Political

December 23rd, 2016


For more than 10 years after the launch of the Oprah Winfrey Show, Oprah deliberately avoided having politicians on her show, particularly during …

Oprah BONUS: Making Donahue

December 30th, 2016


In our final bonus installment, the Making Oprah production team revisits an extended interview with daytime talk show legend Phil Donahue. His pioneering show, Donahue, aired from 1967 to 1996 and laid the groundwork …

Obama: Preview of Making Obama

January 19th, 2018


Former President Barack Obama — along with friends, mentors, and rivals — tells the story of his climb from Chicago to the national stage. Subscribe now and don’t miss the first episode on February 8.

Obama 1: The Man In The Background

February 8th, 2018


Before he was the 44th President, Barack Obama worked as a community organizer on the South Side of Chicago. Hear how the city shaped his political …

Obama 2: Chicago Politics Ain’t Beanbag

February 15th, 2018


When Barack Obama first came to Chicago, a political transformation was happening in the city. Hear how that change inspired him.

Obama 3: You Don’t Say No To Barack

February 22nd, 2018


Former President Barack Obama won his first political seat in 1996. Hear what he had to learn, and the conflicts he faced, to get there. 

Obama 4: Wait Your Turn

March 1st, 2018


In 2000, Barack Obama ran for Congress against a Chicago political legend. It became a contest about race and identity.

Obama 5: Up Or Out

March 8th, 2018


Former president Barack Obama has only lost one election in his life. It was in 2000, and that defeat set him on the course for his eventual U.S. Senate run. Making Obama is a production of listener-supported WBEZ …

Obama 6: Yes We Can!

March 15th, 2018


Barack Obama burst onto the national stage during his U.S. Senate run. Hear how ambition and luck propelled him to Washington.

Obama BONUS: The Decision

April 10th, 2018


Just two and a half years after his 2004 Democratic National Convention speech, Barack Obama announced he was running for president.

Trailer: Making Beyoncé

November 1st, 2019


From the makers of Making Obama, WBEZ Chicago presents Making Beyoncé, a new three-part bio-podcast series that explores Beyoncé Knowles’ rise from local talent shows to global musical icon. 

Find episodes of Making …

Beyoncé 1: Girls Tyme

November 15th, 2019


Before the Grammys, before the platinum records, before Destiny’s Child, there was just a shy girl growing up in Houston. We follow Beyoncé Knowles …

Beyoncé 2: Star Search

November 22nd, 2019


After failing to secure a record deal, Beyoncé and the members of Girls Tyme try another avenue to success: a TV talent competition. The girls are poised and ready for the national spotlight, but tensions in the group …

Beyoncé 3: Destiny Begins

November 27th, 2019


After Girls Tyme dissolves, Beyoncé and the other girls begin building their new group, Destiny’s Child. Finally, things start to click.

Beyoncé BONUS: Fearlessly Herself

March 6th, 2020


In the lead up to Beyoncé's solo album debut, Dangerously in Love, a lot was at stake. She was hoping to break out not only as a solo artist, but as …

Obama BONUS: Redefining Masculinity

May 14th, 2021


Former President Barack Obama recently spoke with Aarti Shahani, host of WBEZ's Art of Power podcast, about masculinity in the post-Donald Trump era. …

Loading ...

Are you the creator of this podcast?

Verify your account

and pick the featured episodes for your show.

Listen to Making


A free podcast app for iPhone and Android

  • User-created playlists and collections
  • Download episodes while on WiFi to listen without using mobile data
  • Stream podcast episodes without waiting for a download
  • Queue episodes to create a personal continuous playlist
RadioPublic on iOS and Android
Or by RSS
RSS feed

Connect with listeners

Podcasters use the RadioPublic listener relationship platform to build lasting connections with fans

Yes, let's begin connecting
Browser window

Find new listeners

  • A dedicated website for your podcast
  • Web embed players designed to convert visitors to listeners in the RadioPublic apps for iPhone and Android
Clicking mouse cursor

Understand your audience

  • Capture listener activity with affinity scores
  • Measure your promotional campaigns and integrate with Google and Facebook analytics
Graph of increasing value

Engage your fanbase

  • Deliver timely Calls To Action, including email acquistion for your mailing list
  • Share exactly the right moment in an episode via text, email, and social media
Icon of cellphone with money

Make money

  • Tip and transfer funds directly to podcastsers
  • Earn money for qualified plays in the RadioPublic apps with Paid Listens