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Mad in America: Rethinking Mental Health

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The Mad in America podcast, hosted by James Moore, examines mental health with a critical eye by speaking with psychologists, psychiatrists and people with lived experience.When you hear such conversations, you realise that much of what is believed to be settled in mental health is actually up for d… read more

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David Joslin – Remedy Alpine, Giving Veterans the Power to Seek Personal Discovery

This week on MIA Radio we share what is something of an anniversary for us at MIA. This interview marks one hundred episodes since we launched our podcast in July 2017. And for this episode, we interview David Joslin. David is a retired army medic, having served in Iraq in 2003 and Afghanistan in 2008. David currently works as a senior healthcare administrator and he has co-founded Remedy Alpine, a veterans therapeutic recreation non-profit dedicated to providing wilderness therapy adventures in Alaska.

David has also written for Mad in America, having published Broken is Not All I’ll Ever Be in August 2019 and he has recently launched a new podcast called Bullets to Beans, which is a military and veteran-centric podcast focused on current military and veteran topics, blended with discussions on mountain oriented recreational and adventure-based therapy programs.

We discuss:
  • How upon leaving the military, David felt that he had lost his identity, suddenly working in private healthcare and not being able to care directly for colleagues as he had as a combat medic.
  • That to help deal with the change, David started going out into the backcountry wilderness to find peace and healing.
  • How this interest led him to meet Eric Collier, a like-minded veteran interested in wilderness hiking.
  • How David and Eric saw the benefits to be had in sharing wilderness adventure experiences and launched their first event for veterans in 2017 and when they got home, realising the amount of interest in and support for similar future events.
  • David and Eric then took the time to establish themselves as a business during the Winter of 2018.
  • During 2019, David and Eric led 49 veterans into the Alaska wilderness and connected with 150 veterans via outreach and community enrichment events.
  • That David came to see that many veterans attending the wilderness therapy had struggled with multiple medications, prescribed during their service years.
  • How David’s experiences within the military led to treatment for Post-traumatic Stress Disorder, resulting in being prescribed a drug cocktail.
  • How the initial drugs were followed by others for insomnia, drugs for nightmares, blood pressure problems and for focus and concentration.
  • How at the height of David’s ‘better living through chemistry’ he was on 13 different drugs.
  • That through David’s pharmacological training he realised that one of the top ten side effects of many of the drugs he had been put on was suicidal thinking.
  • How David came to take himself off all his drugs and strongly advises others never to do this themselves.
  • That it was planning his own suicide that brought him to face that his life was unsustainable, accepting that he didn’t want to live as he had been.
  • As he was planning it, he found that he didn’t want to suffer and came to realise that he did want to live, and realised that the suicidal thoughts were very likely as a result of treatment.
  • That during his service years, David had assisted with at least three suicide interventions and that caused him to consider what might be driving veterans to consider suicide.
    How having confronted his suicidal thoughts and coming off his drugs, David then went on to find solace and comfort in wilderness adventures.
  • That David still sometimes struggles with nightmares, hypervigilance and social anxiety but that he could deal with this without feeling numbed by the drugs and by being away from society but with trusted colleagues and friends in an environment conducive to healing.
  • That Remedy Alpine is now starting to work as a government contractor to provide recreationally-based programs to the veteran community.
  • How Remedy Alpine operates year-round and provides single-day hikes, single overnight camping events and multi-day hikes which can range from 26 to 30 miles through the Alaskan mountains.
  • The recent launch of the Bullets 2 Beans podcast which focuses on post-military life challenges.
  • That Remedy Alpine were attendees at the Nature’s Grace Conference, which focussed on America's veterans and the healing power of nature.
  • How Remedy Alpine is now focussed on expanding the business side, applying for grants, developing their therapeutic programs and training veteran peer mentors.
Relevant Links:

Broken Is Not All I’ll Ever Be

Remedy Alpine

Bullets 2 Beans podcast

Remedy Alpine on Facebook

Nature’s Grace Conference

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